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* EnemyMine: Perhaps unsurprisingly the early days of the JSF, when they weren't dealing with being a RagtagBunchOfMisfits, were plagued by this sort of thing as people who'd fought one another in the Bloody Valentine War found themselves as wingmates. Like the Ragtag bit it lessened over time. [[spoiler: But it spiked again towards the end of the Junius War with defectors like Mira Ross and Marn Soral. And then the Chimera Corp took it UpToEleven. If everyone in the Corp tried to kill everyone they wanted to at the same time (not counting [[AxeCrazy Aeron]] for obvious reasons) then the entire unit would likely be wiped out.]]

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* EnemyMine: Perhaps unsurprisingly the early days of the JSF, when they weren't dealing with being a RagtagBunchOfMisfits, were plagued by this sort of thing as people who'd fought one another in the Bloody Valentine War found themselves as wingmates. Like the Ragtag bit it lessened over time. [[spoiler: But it spiked again towards the end of the Junius War with defectors like Mira Ross and Marn Soral. And then the Chimera Corp took it UpToEleven.up to eleven. If everyone in the Corp tried to kill everyone they wanted to at the same time (not counting [[AxeCrazy Aeron]] for obvious reasons) then the entire unit would likely be wiped out.]]



* TheRival: Various pilots have opponents that they clash with more often than not. Bryan Marshall and Matthias Blaine, Aeron Adda and the Saviour Gundam, Meer Campbell and Chu Hong. On a larger scale the 4th Mobile Wing and the 81st Autonomous Mobile Group, ''Seraphim'' Detachment, are rival units. This gets turned UpToEleven as the game progresses.

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* TheRival: Various pilots have opponents that they clash with more often than not. Bryan Marshall and Matthias Blaine, Aeron Adda and the Saviour Gundam, Meer Campbell and Chu Hong. On a larger scale the 4th Mobile Wing and the 81st Autonomous Mobile Group, ''Seraphim'' Detachment, are rival units. This gets turned UpToEleven up to eleven as the game progresses.
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* FiveManBand:
** The Joint Strike Force:
*** TheLeader: [[LastOfHisKind Bryan]] [[AFatherToHisMen Marshall]]
*** TheLancer: Vincent St Spade, later Axel Adelmar
*** TheBigGuy: [[ColdSniper Lyn Mason]] and [[MoreDakka Wade Hogeboom]]
*** TheSmartGuy: [[WarriorPoet Wade Hogeboom]]
*** TheChick: [[{{Fangirl}} Meer]] [[EmpoweredBadassNormal Campbell]]
*** [[spoiler: TheSixthRanger: [[HeelFaceTurn Mira Ross]]]]
** This follows in suite for the Phantom Pain
*** BigBad: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Lord]] [[FantasticRacism Djibril]]
*** TheDragon: [[FallenHero Mira]] [[LoveMakesYouEvil Ross]] [[spoiler: later [[CharacterDevelopment Matthias Blaine]]]]
*** TheBrute: [[TykeBomb Mina]] [[MoreDakka Lee]], Vadik Sulijmani
*** TheEvilGenius: Matthias Blaine [[spoiler: later Sakuya Miyamoto]]
*** TheDarkChick: Chu Hong
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* HollywoodTactics: [[spoiler: Despite Bryan's fairly precise orders, during the South American battle the [[MildlyMilitary Joint Strike Force]] pilots ignore sound tactical advice to go fight their own duels; not bothering to fall back. The [[CurbStompBattle results]] are two Joint pilots downed and the ''Minerva'' blown out of the sky because the Joint Strike pilots [[WhatAnIdiot ignored their CO]]]]

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* HollywoodTactics: [[spoiler: Despite Bryan's fairly precise orders, during the South American battle the [[MildlyMilitary Joint Strike Force]] pilots ignore sound tactical advice to go fight their own duels; not bothering to fall back. The [[CurbStompBattle results]] are two Joint pilots downed and the ''Minerva'' blown out of the sky because the Joint Strike pilots [[WhatAnIdiot ignored their CO]]]]CO.]]
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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at Cagalli's side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Meer Campbell]] is a Gundam pilot instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]

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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof pitfalls of Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] Yamato is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] Clyne hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at Cagalli's side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] Asuka shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap role, Meer Campbell]] Campbell is a Gundam pilot instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], Clone, and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] Westenfluss is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there back to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]



* HopeSpot: At the Battle of Armory One, the ''Minerva'' launches her Dispar interceptors at the final nuclear missile, with an almost-certain kill assured. Turns out that Matthias Blaine had used a hyrbid missile for his delivery system - the kind where half of it falls off and accelerates to quadruple the original speed when it moves into its terminal phase. The entire Joint Strike Force gasps in horror when the sprint vehicle separates and renders the Dispars completely worthless. [[spoiler: {{Subverted}} when the Destiny Gundam appears and plays BigDamnHeroes, splashing the sprint vehicle.]]

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* HopeSpot: At the Battle of Armory One, the ''Minerva'' launches her Dispar interceptors at the final nuclear missile, with an almost-certain kill assured. Turns out that Matthias Blaine had used a hyrbid hybrid missile for his delivery system - the kind where half of it falls off and accelerates to quadruple the original speed when it moves into its terminal phase. The entire Joint Strike Force gasps in horror when the sprint vehicle separates and renders the Dispars completely worthless. [[spoiler: {{Subverted}} when the Destiny Gundam appears and plays BigDamnHeroes, splashing the sprint vehicle.]]



* WhamEpisode: Two thus far. The first was the easily-forseen [[ColonyDrop Break The World]] incident and its aftermath. [[spoiler: The second was the Mira Ross Incident, which had the Captain of the Phantom Pain team defect to the Coalition]]
** [[spoiler: Ho, boy, following the Battle of Heaven's Base, it is revealed that Durandal has been working with Johan to end the war and finally establish peace at all costs.]]

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* WhamEpisode: Two thus far. The first was the easily-forseen easily-foreseen [[ColonyDrop Break The World]] incident and its aftermath. [[spoiler: The second was the Mira Ross Incident, which had the Captain of the Phantom Pain team defect to the Coalition]]
** [[spoiler: Ho, boy, following Following the Battle of Heaven's Base, it is revealed that Durandal has been working with Johan to end the war and finally establish peace at all costs.]]
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'''Aeron''':[[ShutUpKirk "Ahaha!!! You pity me?]] [[EvilFeelsGood I like what I've become]]. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame And you...you sound like a perfect Extended in the making.]] Oh sure, we give the "king and country" shit easily enough. But you know what? That drive? That urge, that you're feeling right now? That feeling that is better than sex? If it weren't for that feeling I would have blown my brains out long ago. It is what sustains us. All of us. No one ''thrives'' in battle, no one ''seeks it out'' unless they are as broken as I am. [[NotSoDifferent You're so like me, I'm almost a little sick.]]"

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'''Aeron''':[[ShutUpKirk "Ahaha!!! You pity me?]] [[EvilFeelsGood I like what I've become]]. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame And you...you sound like a perfect Extended in the making.]] Oh sure, we give the "king and country" shit easily enough. But you know what? That drive? That urge, that you're feeling right now? That feeling that is better than sex? If it weren't for that feeling I would have blown my brains out long ago. It is what sustains us. All of us. No one ''thrives'' in battle, no one ''seeks it out'' unless they are as broken as I am. [[NotSoDifferent [[NotSoDifferentRemark You're so like me, I'm almost a little sick.]]"
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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Cagalli's]] side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Meer Campbell]] is a Gundam pilot instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]

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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Cagalli's]] Cagalli's side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Meer Campbell]] is a Gundam pilot instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]
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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: As a PvP game it is pretty much mandatory for the player characters of both factions to be fighting one another all the time, as fighting mooks controlled by a puppetmaster Admin can only hold the attention of the players for so long. This could seem a bit odd when the 4th can't seem to do anything without the ''Seraphim'' detachment showing up, and vice versa. But this becomes a plot point when [[spoiler: it's revealed that [[TheMole a traitor]] has been feeding the Phantom Pain information on JSF movements. Once that is dealt with it becomes a matter of each side attempting to land death blows on the other, mandating the presence of the elite units the players have formed.]]

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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: As a PvP [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]] game it is pretty much mandatory for the player characters of both factions to be fighting one another all the time, as fighting mooks controlled by a puppetmaster Admin can only hold the attention of the players for so long. This could seem a bit odd when the 4th can't seem to do anything without the ''Seraphim'' detachment showing up, and vice versa. But this becomes a plot point when [[spoiler: it's revealed that [[TheMole a traitor]] has been feeding the Phantom Pain information on JSF movements. Once that is dealt with it becomes a matter of each side attempting to land death blows on the other, mandating the presence of the elite units the players have formed.]]

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* JackOfAllStats: The Impulse and the Strike E: Multirole Gundams with a variety of weapon packs for any conceivable situation. This is echoed in the mass production units of both sides: the Centurion and the Strikeblade are both good in any situation thanks to the flexibility their Wizard and Striker systems give them.



* TheMario: The Impulse and the Strike E: Multirole Gundams with a variety of weapon packs for any conceivable situation. This is echoed in the mass production units of both sides: the Centurion and the Strikeblade are both good in any situation thanks to the flexibility their Wizard and Striker systems give them.
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* AcePilot: [[CaptainObvious Every PC is one of these]]

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%% This is a zero context example. Please do not uncomment until further context has been added.* AcePilot: [[CaptainObvious Every PC is one of these]]these.



* HumongousMecha of the RealRobot variety, [[CaptainObvious natch]]
* [[spoiler: JustShootHim: Durandel's proposed solution to Djibril - rather than waste the time and effort of a show trial, he prompts Wade and tells him that if one of the FAITH agents aboard the ''Minerva'' kills Djibril, they'll be pardoned, no questions asked. Wade goes to talk to Bryan about it right after the latter just heard [[LoveHurts Mira say she never wants to see him again]] Bryan decides to take Durandel up on the offer in a fit of despair, but is eventually talked out of it by his squadron.]]

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* HumongousMecha of the RealRobot variety, [[CaptainObvious natch]]
natch.
* [[spoiler: JustShootHim: Durandel's [[spoiler:Durandel's proposed solution to Djibril - rather than waste the time and effort of a show trial, he prompts Wade and tells him that if one of the FAITH agents aboard the ''Minerva'' kills Djibril, they'll be pardoned, no questions asked. Wade goes to talk to Bryan about it right after the latter just heard [[LoveHurts Mira say she never wants to see him again]] Bryan decides to take Durandel up on the offer in a fit of despair, but is eventually talked out of it by his squadron.]]

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* FiveManBand: the Joint Strike Force:
** TheLeader: [[LastOfHisKind Bryan]] [[AFatherToHisMen Marshall]]
** TheLancer: Vincent St Spade, later Axel Adelmar
** TheBigGuy: [[ColdSniper Lyn Mason]] and [[MoreDakka Wade Hogeboom]]
** TheSmartGuy: [[WarriorPoet Wade Hogeboom]]
** TheChick: [[{{Fangirl}} Meer]] [[EmpoweredBadassNormal Campbell]]
** [[spoiler: TheSixthRanger: [[HeelFaceTurn Mira Ross]]]]
* FiveBadBand follows in suite for the Phantom Pain
** BigBad: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Lord]] [[FantasticRacism Djibril]]
** TheDragon: [[FallenHero Mira]] [[LoveMakesYouEvil Ross]] [[spoiler: later [[CharacterDevelopment Matthias Blaine]]]]
** TheBrute: [[TykeBomb Mina]] [[MoreDakka Lee]], Vadik Sulijmani
** TheEvilGenius: Matthias Blaine [[spoiler: later Sakuya Miyamoto]]
** TheDarkChick: Chu Hong

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* FiveManBand: the FiveManBand:
** The
Joint Strike Force:
** *** TheLeader: [[LastOfHisKind Bryan]] [[AFatherToHisMen Marshall]]
** *** TheLancer: Vincent St Spade, later Axel Adelmar
** *** TheBigGuy: [[ColdSniper Lyn Mason]] and [[MoreDakka Wade Hogeboom]]
** *** TheSmartGuy: [[WarriorPoet Wade Hogeboom]]
** *** TheChick: [[{{Fangirl}} Meer]] [[EmpoweredBadassNormal Campbell]]
** *** [[spoiler: TheSixthRanger: [[HeelFaceTurn Mira Ross]]]]
* FiveBadBand ** This follows in suite for the Phantom Pain
** *** BigBad: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Lord]] [[FantasticRacism Djibril]]
** *** TheDragon: [[FallenHero Mira]] [[LoveMakesYouEvil Ross]] [[spoiler: later [[CharacterDevelopment Matthias Blaine]]]]
** *** TheBrute: [[TykeBomb Mina]] [[MoreDakka Lee]], Vadik Sulijmani
** *** TheEvilGenius: Matthias Blaine [[spoiler: later Sakuya Miyamoto]]
** *** TheDarkChick: Chu Hong
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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Cagalli's]] side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Meer Campbell]] is a [[{{Badass}} Gundam pilot]] instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]

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* FixFic: The basic plot was initially conceived as one and indeed many of the often lamented pitfallsof Destiny have been avoided. [[GodModeSue Kira Yamato]] is dead, [[PuritySue Lacus Clyne]] hasn't been seen since the War, [[HandicappedBadass Athrun Zala]] is still at [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Cagalli's]] side, [[TheScrappy Shinn Asuka]] shows up for only a minor role and is devoid of {{Wangst}}, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Meer Campbell]] is a [[{{Badass}} Gundam pilot]] pilot instead of a [[TheScrappy Lacus Clone]], and [[MemeticBadass Heine Westenfluss]] is still alive and kicking. [[spoiler: As of the aftermath of the Battle of Armory One, Lacus has come back, but she is no longer the PuritySue she was in canon, rather she's there to help encourage a number of Joint Strike Force pilots.]]



* RagtagBunchofMisfits: The Fourth Wing right after the Armory One Raid, of the 'assembled on short notice' variety. The 4th was originally put together by taking every pilot who'd gotten to a mobile suit during the Armory One raid and throwing them onto the Minerva. Things settled down eventually, as most of the pilots prove themselves to be [[{{Badass}} more capable than the ones Bryan had been considering for his wing]] and end up staying.

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* RagtagBunchofMisfits: The Fourth Wing right after the Armory One Raid, of the 'assembled on short notice' variety. The 4th was originally put together by taking every pilot who'd gotten to a mobile suit during the Armory One raid and throwing them onto the Minerva. Things settled down eventually, as most of the pilots prove themselves to be [[{{Badass}} more capable than the ones Bryan had been considering for his wing]] wing and end up staying.
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* HopeSpot: At the Battle of Armory One, the ''Minerva'' launches her Dispar interceptors at the final nuclear missile, with an almost-certain kill assured. Turns out that Matthias Blaine is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and had used a hyrbid missile for his delivery system - the kind where half of it falls off and accelerates to quadruple the original speed when it moves into its terminal phase. The entire Joint Strike Force gasps in horror when the sprint vehicle separates and renders the Dispars completely worthless. [[spoiler: {{Subverted}} when the Destiny Gundam appears and plays BigDamnHeroes, splashing the sprint vehicle.]]

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* HopeSpot: At the Battle of Armory One, the ''Minerva'' launches her Dispar interceptors at the final nuclear missile, with an almost-certain kill assured. Turns out that Matthias Blaine is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and had used a hyrbid missile for his delivery system - the kind where half of it falls off and accelerates to quadruple the original speed when it moves into its terminal phase. The entire Joint Strike Force gasps in horror when the sprint vehicle separates and renders the Dispars completely worthless. [[spoiler: {{Subverted}} when the Destiny Gundam appears and plays BigDamnHeroes, splashing the sprint vehicle.]]

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* HannibalHasAPoint: Phantom Pain characters are fond of saying that once OMNI pulled official support from the JSF the multi-national force lost most of its legitimacy, and then go on to state that the JSF has become merely an extension of ZAFT. The thing is, it has gotten progressively harder to argue against accusations of ZAFT influence as a progressively larger majority of the 4th's pilots have been ZAFT pilots [[spoiler: or have become ZAFT pilots through the Chairman's offer. The fact that there are two FAITH agents on the Fourth's roster doesn't help the JSF's case]]. This has actually ''been a concern voiced by JSF members as well'', but even those who have spoken up have been largely powerless to do anything in the face of necessity.
** The ''Minerva'' is an extreme case within the Joint Strike Foce- while OMNI's presence has faded somewhat, ORB is still staunchly supportive of the Joint Strike Force, and plenty of the OMNI personnel who [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight stayed with the Joint Strike Force]] rather than obey the orders of [[PresidentEvil President Copeland]] to return to the Alliance. WordOfGod says that the current composition of the Joint Strike Force is 45% ZAFT, 40% ORB, 15% rogue OMNI personnel. Still, the fact that the Joint Strike Force's best unit is staffed heavily by ZAFT with both a Captain, XO, and pilot who are members of FAITH is unsettling...



* [[OnlyICanKillHim Only We Can Kill Them]]: Aaron realizes this is the case between the 4th and the ''Seraphim'' detachment during the [[spoiler: Battle of Icelandic Orbit. There's plenty of evidence for this. Seiran, OMNI, and Phantom Pain units in Ratcatcher, Kaohsiung, and Armory One that went up against the 4th got hammered for their trouble, and the ''Seraphim'' massacred Waywind Squadron and the ''Sentinel'' in Icelandic Orbit and Lancel Squadron at Heaven's Base. In contrast the majority of PlayerCharacter deaths, three for the ''Seraphim'' and two for the 4th so far, have been inflicted by one another, and the fourth death among the ''Seraphim'' crew still only happened because of the 4th's efforts.]]

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* [[OnlyICanKillHim Only We Can Kill Them]]: OnlyICanKillHim: Aaron realizes this is the case between the 4th and the ''Seraphim'' detachment during the [[spoiler: Battle of Icelandic Orbit. There's plenty of evidence for this. Seiran, OMNI, and Phantom Pain units in Ratcatcher, Kaohsiung, and Armory One that went up against the 4th got hammered for their trouble, and the ''Seraphim'' massacred Waywind Squadron and the ''Sentinel'' in Icelandic Orbit and Lancel Squadron at Heaven's Base. In contrast the majority of PlayerCharacter deaths, three for the ''Seraphim'' and two for the 4th so far, have been inflicted by one another, and the fourth death among the ''Seraphim'' crew still only happened because of the 4th's efforts.]]


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* VillainHasAPoint: Phantom Pain characters are fond of saying that once OMNI pulled official support from the JSF the multi-national force lost most of its legitimacy, and then go on to state that the JSF has become merely an extension of ZAFT. The thing is, it has gotten progressively harder to argue against accusations of ZAFT influence as a progressively larger majority of the 4th's pilots have been ZAFT pilots [[spoiler: or have become ZAFT pilots through the Chairman's offer. The fact that there are two FAITH agents on the Fourth's roster doesn't help the JSF's case]]. This has actually ''been a concern voiced by JSF members as well'', but even those who have spoken up have been largely powerless to do anything in the face of necessity.
** The ''Minerva'' is an extreme case within the Joint Strike Foce- while OMNI's presence has faded somewhat, ORB is still staunchly supportive of the Joint Strike Force, and plenty of the OMNI personnel who [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight stayed with the Joint Strike Force]] rather than obey the orders of [[PresidentEvil President Copeland]] to return to the Alliance. WordOfGod says that the current composition of the Joint Strike Force is 45% ZAFT, 40% ORB, 15% rogue OMNI personnel. Still, the fact that the Joint Strike Force's best unit is staffed heavily by ZAFT with both a Captain, XO, and pilot who are members of FAITH is unsettling...

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