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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually acknowledges that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually acknowledges that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall [[MomentOfWeakness before succumbing to this weakness]].
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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually has an awareness that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually has an awareness acknowledges that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].
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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually had an awareness that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually had has an awareness that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed and uncomfortable when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it. * HypocrisyNod: Marge actually had an awareness that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed and uncomfortable when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it. it.
* HypocrisyNod: Marge actually had an awareness that she would be a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before succumbing to this weakness]].

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed and uncomfortable when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it.
** Interestingly, Marge herself had an [[HypocrisyNod awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually]] [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed and uncomfortable when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it. \n** Interestingly, * HypocrisyNod: Marge herself actually had an [[HypocrisyNod awareness that she would be this a "super hypocrite" if she didn't support Patty's sexually]] sexually [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].
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** Interestingly, Marge herself had an [[HypocricyNod awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually]] [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].

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** Interestingly, Marge herself had an [[HypocricyNod [[HypocrisyNod awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually]] [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].
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** Interestingly, Marge herself had an awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].

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** Interestingly, Marge herself had an [[HypocricyNod awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually sexually]] [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].
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** Interestingly, Marge herself had an awareness that she would be this if she didn't support Patty's sexually [[ConflictBall before fully succumbing to this weakness]].
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Give me rock solid evidence that this episode meant anything calculable to that movement.


It got a huge amount of hype when it first aired, both from Fox teasing that a character would come out of the closet in the episode, and from MoralGuardians who objected to an episode about gay marriage. It's since been cited as a watershed moment for the same-sex marriage debate in America.

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It got a huge amount of hype when it first aired, both from Fox teasing that a character would come out of the closet in the episode, and from MoralGuardians who objected to an episode about gay marriage. It's since been cited as a watershed moment for the same-sex marriage debate in America.
marriage.

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* PopCulturePunEpisodeTitle: The title is a reference to the film ''Film/TheresSomethingAboutMary''.



** Blinky turns into the monster ''Film/TheCreatureFromTheBlackLagoon''.

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** Blinky turns into the monster ''Film/TheCreatureFromTheBlackLagoon''.''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon''.



** The title is a reference to the film ''Film/TheresSomethingAboutMary''.

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* MatchCut: An audible variant; among finding out Veronica is really a man, Marge is really happy thinking that Patty will be in for a shock and sashays down the hall humming "Here Comes The Bride." It then cuts to Patty and "Veronica"'s wedding beginning as the background music continues where Marge left off on the song, now with the full band.



-->'''Marge''': ''(closes for quietly)'' Looks like Patty's going to get something she didn't count on for her wedding night.
-->'''Marge''': ''(interrupting the wedding)'' Patty, it's not what you think! Veronica is a man! ''(rips off tape covering the Adam's apple on her neck; everyone gasps in horror)''
-->'''Wedding guest''': Oh my, look at the size of that Adam's apple!

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-->'''Marge''': ''(closes for door quietly)'' She's a man! Looks like Patty's going to get something she didn't count on for her wedding night.
night. ''(gleefully hums "Here Comes The Bride")''
-->''Later...''
-->'''Marge''': ''(interrupting the wedding)'' Patty, it's not what you think! Veronica is a man! ''(rips off tape collar covering the Adam's apple on her neck; everyone gasps in horror)''
-->'''Wedding guest''': -->'''Sideshow Mel''': Oh my, look at the size of that Adam's apple!
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** At one point Lisa wonders why the family is dressed as 'Sunday Best Simpsons' (in other words, the clothes they wear to church). The currently running (at the time) Playmates Toys' line of Simpsons action figures used that name to describe the toys of the family in their church clothes.
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* ScrewYourself: Homer has a fantasy about being married to ''himself'' and having multiple Homer-look alike babies.

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* ScrewYourself: Homer has a fantasy about being married to ''himself'' and having multiple Homer-look alike babies. This moment currently provides the page image.
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Funny, but Het Is Ew is not a trope (it's Fan Speak).


* HetIsEw: After marrying every gay couple in Springfield, Lisa suggests that Homer also marry hetero couples, much to his disgust.
-->'''Homer:''' What's that thing called when a guy is gay for a girl?\\
'''Marge:''' ''Straight!''\\
'''Homer:''' (''mincing around'') Ohooo, look at me, I'm so straight and normal! I'm straight as a number-two pencil!
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* ClosetKey: "Veronica" for Patty.

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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Reverend Lovejoy forbids homosexual marriage because the Bible forbids it, Marge asks which book. Lovejoy repeats 'The Bible' as if it were a stupid question, forgetting (or ignoring) that the sections of the Bible are split into different books.

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* CallBack: The song "Whatever Will Be, Will Be (Que Sera, Sera)," previously featured in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E14BartsComet Bart's Comet]]", is used again during the montage of the signs that Patty is a lesbian.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Reverend Lovejoy forbids homosexual marriage because the Bible forbids it, Marge asks which book. Lovejoy repeats 'The Bible' "The Bible" as if it were a stupid question, forgetting (or ignoring) that the sections of the Bible are split into different books.



** The song "Whatever Will Be, Will Be (Que Sera, Sera)," previously featured in "Bart's Comet," is used again during the montage of the signs that Patty is a lesbian.



** While making jokes about Patty's marriage, Homer references the 1955 Ed Wood film, Bride of the Monster.

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** While making jokes about Patty's marriage, Homer references the 1955 Ed Wood film, Bride of the Monster.''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''.



** Blinky turns into the monster from the movie "Creature from the Black Lagoon".

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** Blinky turns into the monster from the movie "Creature from the Black Lagoon".''Film/TheCreatureFromTheBlackLagoon''.



-->'''Homer''': If you love The Bible so much, why don't you marry it? In fact, I now pronounce you and The Bible man and wife...and you're the wife!

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-->'''Homer''': If you love The Bible so much, why don't you marry it? In fact, I now pronounce you and The Bible man and wife...and you're the wife!wife!
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** The title is a reference to the film There's Something About Mary.

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** The title is a reference to the film There's Something About Mary.''Film/TheresSomethingAboutMary''.


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* WeddingEpisode: This episode focuses on Patty's upcoming gay wedding. Springfield legalizes gay marriage, Patty comes out as a lesbian, and Homer becomes to a minister, and the episode builds up to Patty's wedding to Veronica. At the last minute, the wedding falls through, as "Veronica" turns out to be a man in disguise.

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: There are hints that Veronica is actually a man before the reveal. For example:
** She has no visible eyelashes, which is quite common for most of the female characters.
** Her neck is covered in both a flashback and the present day to hide her Adam's apple.
** She speaks with a slightly masculine voice while trying to keep the charade up.



-->'''Marge''': ''(gasps, seeing the toilet seat up)'' But that would mean.... ''(looks inside)''

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-->'''Marge''': ''(gasps, seeing the toilet seat up)'' But that would mean....mean... ''(looks inside)''

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* IncompatibleOrientation: After being outed as a straight man disguised as a woman, Leslie/"Veronica" still proposes marriage to the lesbian Patty but she angrily rejects him.



* IncompatibleOrientation: After being outed as a straight man disguised as a woman, Leslie/"Veronica" still proposes marriage to the lesbian Patty but she angrily rejects him.

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* IncompatibleOrientation: After being outed as a straight man disguised as a woman, Leslie/"Veronica" still proposes marriage to the lesbian Patty but she angrily rejects him.KarmaHoudini: Bart, Milhouse, Kearney, Jimbo, and Dolph get away with attacking Howell Huser and causing Springfield's 6/10 rating.


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* TooDumbToLive: Howell Huser was an innocent victim, but he's also partially responsible for the pain he endured from Bart and Milhouse. As a sightseer he just blindly agrees to let two 10 year olds guide him rather than talk to some kind of city official.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Marge was proud of Homer for marrying homosexuals but was disappointed and uncomfortable when Patty revealed herself to be a lesbian. Patty calls her out on it.


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* JerkassBall: Marge becomes incredibly intolerant and homophobic when she learns Patty is a lesbian. When she learns that Veronica uses the toilet seat up and was shaving, Marge goes out of her way to ruin the wedding.


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* PetTheDog: As much as Homer and Patty hate each other, Homer agrees to marry her and her fiancee when Patty comes out as a lesbian.


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* SkewedPriorities: Patty was understanding that Veronica lied to fans, golfers and caddies, but offended that Veronica lied to both her and the sponcers.
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* SpitTake: Homer and Patty do one when Marge, upon learning Patty was gay, comments that she no longer has to worry about Patty stealing Homer away.
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* DisguisedInDrag / UnsettlingGenderReveal: Veronica, the woman Patty is engaged to, turns out to actually be a straight man dressed like a woman, whom lied his way onto the LPGA tour, and then fell in love with Patty. Marge find this out before the wedding, seeing "Veronica" use the bathroom with the toilet seat up and shaving himself while singing "Dude Looks Like a Lady."

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* DisguisedInDrag / UnsettlingGenderReveal: DisguisedInDrag: Veronica, the woman Patty is engaged to, turns out to actually be a straight man dressed like a woman, whom lied his way onto the LPGA tour, and then fell in love with Patty. Marge find this out before the wedding, seeing "Veronica" use the bathroom with the toilet seat up and shaving himself while singing "Dude Looks Like a Lady."
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Recap pages don't get spoiler tags, most of these are self-fulfilling spoilers anyway


* BigNo: Patty turning down Veronica's second marriage proposal after the reveal [[spoiler: that "she" is really a straight man in disguise.]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Leslie Robin Swisher/]]Veronica''': Patty, will you marry the real me?

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* BigNo: Patty turning down Veronica's second marriage proposal after the reveal [[spoiler: that "she" is really a straight man in disguise.]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Leslie
disguise.
-->'''Leslie
Robin Swisher/]]Veronica''': Swisher''': Patty, will you marry the real me?



* IncompatibleOrientation: After being outed as a straight man disguised as a woman, [[spoiler: Leslie/"Veronica"]] still proposes marriage to the lesbian Patty but she angrily rejects him.
* LipstickLesbian: Veronica is [[spoiler: thought]] to be this, while having a more shorter hairdo and boyish apparel than Patty, still dresses a little femininely. She even wears a dress to their wedding.

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* IncompatibleOrientation: After being outed as a straight man disguised as a woman, [[spoiler: Leslie/"Veronica"]] Leslie/"Veronica" still proposes marriage to the lesbian Patty but she angrily rejects him.
* LipstickLesbian: Veronica is [[spoiler: thought]] thought to be this, while having a more shorter hairdo and boyish apparel than Patty, still dresses a little femininely. She even wears a dress to their wedding.



* UnsettlingGenderReveal: How Marge and Patty find out that [[spoiler: Veronica]] is really a man.

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* UnsettlingGenderReveal: How Marge and Patty find out that [[spoiler: Veronica]] Veronica is really a man.



-->'''[[spoiler: Veronica]]''': ''(singing Aerosmith while shaving)'' Dude looks like a lady! Dude looks like a lady!

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-->'''[[spoiler: Veronica]]''': -->'''Veronica''': ''(singing Aerosmith while shaving)'' Dude looks like a lady! Dude looks like a lady!



-->'''Marge''': ''(interrupting the wedding)'' Patty, it's not what you think! [[Spoiler: Veronica]] is a man! ''(rips off tape covering the Adam's apple on her neck; everyone gasps in horror)''

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-->'''Marge''': ''(interrupting the wedding)'' Patty, it's not what you think! [[Spoiler: Veronica]] Veronica is a man! ''(rips off tape covering the Adam's apple on her neck; everyone gasps in horror)''
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: After showing Homer's [[https://i.imgur.com/9sKbtEE.png?fb "map to stars' homes"]] for [[OverlyLongGag a bit longer than you'd expect]], Homer says "Have you read them all? OK, good," before they cut to the next shot.

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* BreakingTheFourthWall: After showing Homer's [[https://i.imgur.com/9sKbtEE.png?fb png "map to stars' homes"]] for [[OverlyLongGag a bit longer than you'd expect]], Homer says "Have you read them all? OK, good," before they cut to the next shot.
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* UnsettlingGenderReveal: How Marge and Patty find out that [[spoiler: Veronica]] is really a man.
-->'''Marge''': ''(gasps, seeing the toilet seat up)'' But that would mean.... ''(looks inside)''
-->'''[[spoiler: Veronica]]''': ''(singing Aerosmith while shaving)'' Dude looks like a lady! Dude looks like a lady!
-->'''Marge''': ''(closes for quietly)'' Looks like Patty's going to get something she didn't count on for her wedding night.
-->'''Marge''': ''(interrupting the wedding)'' Patty, it's not what you think! [[Spoiler: Veronica]] is a man! ''(rips off tape covering the Adam's apple on her neck; everyone gasps in horror)''
-->'''Wedding guest''': Oh my, look at the size of that Adam's apple!
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* StrangeMindsThinkAlike: Homer and Patty both shudder in disgust when Marge remarks Patty coming out means she no longer has to fear them eloping.

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* StrangeMindsThinkAlike: Homer and Patty both shudder [[SpitTake react in disgust disgust]] when Marge remarks Patty coming out means she no longer has to fear them eloping.

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* ShoutOut: Marge discovering that Veronica is a man is a reference to Chris Hillard discovering that Mrs. Doubtfire is his father in disguise from ''Film/MrsDoubtfire''.

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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Marge discovering that Veronica is a man is a reference to Chris Hillard discovering that Mrs. Doubtfire is his father in disguise from ''Film/MrsDoubtfire''.

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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Reverend Lovejoy forbids homosexual marriage because the Bible forbids it, Marge asks which book. Lovejoy repeats 'The Bible' as if it were a stupid question, forgetting (or ignoring) that the sections of the Bible are split into different books.



* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Reverend Lovejoy forbids homosexual marriage because the Bible forbids it, Marge asks which book. Lovejoy repeats 'The Bible' as if it were a stupid question, forgetting (or ignoring) that the sections of the Bible are split into different books.
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-->'''Patty''': You can guess all night and not get it. (deep breath) Her name's Veronica.

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-->'''Patty''': You can guess all night and not get it. (deep breath) ''(deep breath)'' Her name's Veronica.
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* HighFiveLeftHanging: When Homer and Reverend Lovejoy are being interviewed by Kent Brockman, Homer makes a joke about gay marriage and requests a high five from Lovejoy but Lovejoy refuses to accept it.

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