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The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
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The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
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-->--'''President JohnFKennedy'''
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-->-- '''LyndonJohnson'''
->''Hey! Hey! [[LyndonJohnson LBJ]]! How many kids did you kill today?''
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-->-- '''LyndonJohnson'''
'''UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson'''
->''Hey! Hey![[LyndonJohnson [[UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson LBJ]]! How many kids did you kill today?''
->''Hey! Hey!
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->'''[[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon President Nixon]]''': Change always comes slowly. I pulled out more than half the troops. I'm trying to cut the military budget for the first time in 30 years. I want a volunteer army. But it's also a question of American credibility, our position in the world...\\
'''Student''': ''You'' don't want the war, ''we'' don't want the war, the ''Vietnamese'' don't want the war, so why does it go on? ''({{beat}})'' You can't stop it, can you? Even if you wanted to, because it's not you, it's the system. [[InherentInTheSystem The system won't let you stop it.]]
-->--'''''{{Film/Nixon}}''''' (1995)
'''Student''': ''You'' don't want the war, ''we'' don't want the war, the ''Vietnamese'' don't want the war, so why does it go on? ''({{beat}})'' You can't stop it, can you? Even if you wanted to, because it's not you, it's the system. [[InherentInTheSystem The system won't let you stop it.]]
-->--'''''{{Film/Nixon}}''''' (1995)
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-->--'''KurtVonnegut''', ''Breakfast of Champions''
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-->--'''KurtVonnegut''', ''Breakfast of Champions''
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!Real life
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-->--Journalist Michael Herr, ''Dispatches''
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-->--Journalist Michael Herr, '''Michael Herr''', ''Dispatches''
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->''“As I come to understand Vietnam and [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves what it implies about the human condition]], I also realize that few humans will permit themselves such an understanding.”''
-->--'''Doctor Manhattan''', ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}''
-->--'''Doctor Manhattan''', ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}''
->''“Vietnam was a country where America was trying to make people stop being communists [[GunboatDiplomacy by dropping things on them from airplanes.]]”''
-->--'''KurtVonnegut''', ''Breakfast of Champions''
-->--'''KurtVonnegut''', ''Breakfast of Champions''
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-->-- '''Journalist Peter Arnett''' in ''The New York Times''
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-->-- '''Journalist Peter Journalist '''Peter Arnett''' in ''The New York Times''
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->''“We took space back quickly, expensively, with total panic and close to maximum brutality. Our machine was devastating. And versatile. It could do everything but stop.”''
-->--Journalist Michael Herr, ''Dispatches''
->''“We took space back quickly, expensively, with total panic and close to maximum brutality. Our machine was devastating. And versatile. It could do everything but stop.”''
-->--Journalist Michael Herr, ''Dispatches''
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-->--'''Chief Phillips,''', ''Film/ApocalypseNow''
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-->--'''Chief Phillips,''', ''Film/ApocalypseNow''
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->''"Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still [[MortonsFork is a well-disciplined VC.]]"''
-->--'''''Film/FullMetalJacket'''''
->''"Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still [[MortonsFork is a well-disciplined VC.]]"''
-->--'''''Film/FullMetalJacket'''''
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->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
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->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. [[CombatPragmatist You only fight battles you know you can win. win.]] That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
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->''"We cannot commit a crime. [[MoralMyopia It's contradiction in terms]]. Anything we do is by necessity not only right, but noble. Therefore, there can't be a crime... Almost nobody, including me, dared to criticize the U.S. attack on [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar South Vietnam]]. That's like talking Hittite. Nobody even understood the words. They still don't."''
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->'''Creator/GoreVidal:''' People in the United States happen to believe that the United States policy is wrong in Vietnam and the Viet Cong are correct in wanting to organise their country in their own way politically. This happens to be pretty much the opinion of western Europe and many other parts of the world. If it is a novelty in Chicago, that is too bad, but I assume that the point of the American democracy is that you can express any point of view you wanted--\\
'''William F. Buckley:''' [[GodwinsLaw And some people are pro-Nazi, too.]]
-->-- 1968 televised debate
->''"We cannot commit a crime. [[MoralMyopia It's contradiction in terms]]. Anything we do is by necessity not only right, but noble. Therefore, there can't be a crime... Almost nobody, including me, dared to criticize the U.S. attack on[[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar South Vietnam]].Vietnam. That's like talking Hittite. Nobody even understood the words. They still don't."''
'''William F. Buckley:''' [[GodwinsLaw And some people are pro-Nazi, too.]]
-->-- 1968 televised debate
->''"We cannot commit a crime. [[MoralMyopia It's contradiction in terms]]. Anything we do is by necessity not only right, but noble. Therefore, there can't be a crime... Almost nobody, including me, dared to criticize the U.S. attack on
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We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
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[[NoExceptYes We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
more,]]\\
To help [[StartXToStopX save Vietnam from Vietnamese."'']]"''
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->''"You got us in this mess, and now you can't get us out, because you don't know where the hell you're going, do you?'' Do you?!''"''
-->--'''Chief Phillips,''', ''Film/ApocalypseNow''
-->--'''Chief Phillips,''', ''Film/ApocalypseNow''
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->''LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
"Have no fear of escalation.\\
I am trying everyone to please.\\
Though it isn't really war,\\
We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."''
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->''And it's 1, 2, 3, what're we fighting for?\\
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn\\
Next stop is Vietnam.\\
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates\\
Well there ain't no time to wonder why\\
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
-->-- "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
->''We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And [[ArmchairMilitary the big fool says to push on]].''
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
->''"They crossed the water\\
Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
-->--'''Brill''', ''Film/EnemyOfTheState''
->''"They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other country."''
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
->'''Otto:''' You know your problem? You don't like winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah. Winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners, like... North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah, l -- ''Shut up''. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a ''tie''.
->'''Archie:''' I'm tellin' ya baby, they kicked your little ass there. Boy, they whooped yer hide REAL GOOD.
-->-- ''Film/AFishCalledWanda''
->''"Vietnam, to this day, is far removed from the manner of civilization westerners are accustomed to. Many of the country's populace either reside in or have ties to tribal roots. It is a culture that lies in the midst of the old and the modern.\\
The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
-->-- '''''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}: Vietnam''''' loading screen
"Have no fear of escalation.\\
I am trying everyone to please.\\
Though it isn't really war,\\
We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."''
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->''And it's 1, 2, 3, what're we fighting for?\\
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn\\
Next stop is Vietnam.\\
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates\\
Well there ain't no time to wonder why\\
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
-->-- "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
->''We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And [[ArmchairMilitary the big fool says to push on]].''
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
->''"They crossed the water\\
Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
-->--'''Brill''', ''Film/EnemyOfTheState''
->''"They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other country."''
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
->'''Otto:''' You know your problem? You don't like winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah. Winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners, like... North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah, l -- ''Shut up''. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a ''tie''.
->'''Archie:''' I'm tellin' ya baby, they kicked your little ass there. Boy, they whooped yer hide REAL GOOD.
-->-- ''Film/AFishCalledWanda''
->''"Vietnam, to this day, is far removed from the manner of civilization westerners are accustomed to. Many of the country's populace either reside in or have ties to tribal roots. It is a culture that lies in the midst of the old and the modern.\\
The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
-->-- '''''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}: Vietnam''''' loading screen
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->'''Otto:''' You know your problem? You don't like winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah. Winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners, like... North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah, l -- ''Shut up''. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a ''tie''.
->'''Archie:''' I'm tellin' ya baby, they kicked your little ass there. Boy, they whooped yer hide REAL GOOD.
-->-- ''Film/AFishCalledWanda''
->'''Archie:''' Winners?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah. Winners.
->'''Archie:''' Winners, like... North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:''' Yeah, l -- ''Shut up''. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a ''tie''.
->'''Archie:''' I'm tellin' ya baby, they kicked your little ass there. Boy, they whooped yer hide REAL GOOD.
-->-- ''Film/AFishCalledWanda''
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->''"They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other country."''
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
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Don't ask me, I don't give a damn\\
Next stop is Vietnam.\\
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates\\
Well there ain't no time to wonder why\\
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
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Don't ask me, I don't give a damn\\
Next stop is Vietnam.\\
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates\\
Well there ain't no time to wonder why\\
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
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Don't ask me, I don't give a damn\\
Next stop
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Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
-->-- "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and
-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''
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->''LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
"Have no fear of escalation.\\
I am trying everyone to please.\\
Though it isn't really war,\\
We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."''
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->''We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to push on.''
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
"Have no fear of escalation.\\
I am trying everyone to please.\\
Though it isn't really war,\\
We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."''
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->''We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to push on.''
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
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->''"They crossed the water\\
Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
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->''"If I've lost Cronkite on Vietnam, [[EtTuBrute I've lost Middle America."'']]"''
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->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
-->--'''Brill''', ''Film/EnemyOfTheState''
->''"Vietnam, to this day, is far removed from the manner of civilization westerners are accustomed to. Many of the country's populace either reside in or have ties to tribal roots. It is a culture that lies in the midst of the old and the modern.\\
The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
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->''"Well, if [[DavidVersusGoliath they're big and you're small, small]], then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
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->''"Well, if they're big and you're small, then you're mobile and they're slow. You're hidden and they're exposed. You only fight battles you know you can win. That's the way the Vietcong did it. You capture their weapons and you use them against them the next time. You grow stronger while they grow weaker."''
-->--'''Brill''', ''Film/EnemyOfTheState''
-->--'''Brill''', ''Film/EnemyOfTheState''
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->''"Vietnam, to this day, is far removed from the manner of civilization westerners are accustomed to. Many of the country's populace either reside in or have ties to tribal roots. It is a culture that lies in the midst of the old and the modern.\\
The Indochina Conflict was a struggle for the independence of a people. The Vietnam War was a continuance of [[ColdWar world politics]] imposing itself on the Vietnamese."''
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->''Hey! Hey! [[LyndonJohnson LBJ]]! How many kids did you kill today?''
-->-- '''Anti-War Protest Chant'''
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->'''Archie:''' Winners, like North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:''' Shut up. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a tie.
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->'''Archie:''' Winners, like like... North Vietnam?
->'''Otto:'''Shut up.Yeah, l -- ''Shut up''. We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a tie.''tie''.
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->"''Tonight, back in more familiar surroundings in New York, we'd like to sum up our findings in Vietnam, an analysis that must be speculative, personal, subjective. Who won and who lost in the great Tet offensive against the cities? I'm not sure.\\
The Vietcong did not win by a knockout, but neither did we. The referees of history may make it a draw. Another standoff may be coming in the big battles expected south of the Demilitarized Zone. Khesanh could well fall, with a terrible loss in American lives, prestige and morale, and this is a tragedy of our stubbornness there; but the bastion no longer is a key to the rest of the northern regions, and it is doubtful that the American forces can be defeated across the breadth of the DMZ with any substantial loss of ground. Another standoff.\\
On the political front, past performance gives no confidence that the Vietnamese government can cope with its problems, now compounded by the attack on the cities. It may not fall, it may hold on, but it probably won't show the dynamic qualities demanded of this young nation. Another standoff.\\
We have been too often disappointed by the optimism of the American leaders, both in Vietnam and Washington, to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds. They may be right, that Hanoi's winter-spring offensive has been forced by the Communist realization that they could not win the longer war of attrition, and that the Communists hope that any success in the offensive will improve their position for eventual negotiations. It would improve their position, and it would also require our realization, that we should have had all along, that any negotiations must be that -- negotiations, not the dictation of peace terms.\\
For it seems now more certain than ever that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate. This summer's almost certain standoff will either end in real give-and-take negotiations or terrible escalation; and for every means we have to escalate, the enemy can match us, and that applies to invasion of the North, the use of nuclear weapons, or the mere commitment of one hundred, or two hundred, or three hundred thousand more American troops to the battle. And with each escalation, the world comes closer to the brink of cosmic disaster.\\
To say that we are closer to victory today is to believe, in the face of the evidence, the optimists who have been wrong in the past. To suggest we are on the edge of defeat is to yield to unreasonable pessimism. To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, yet unsatisfactory, conclusion. On the off chance that military and political analysts are right, in the next few months we must test the enemy's intentions, in case this is indeed his last big gasp before negotiations.\\
But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could.\\
This is '''Walter Cronkite.''' Good night."''
-->-- '''Walter Cronkite'''
->''"If I've lost Cronkite on Vietnam, I've lost Middle America."''
-->-- '''LyndonJohnson'''
The Vietcong did not win by a knockout, but neither did we. The referees of history may make it a draw. Another standoff may be coming in the big battles expected south of the Demilitarized Zone. Khesanh could well fall, with a terrible loss in American lives, prestige and morale, and this is a tragedy of our stubbornness there; but the bastion no longer is a key to the rest of the northern regions, and it is doubtful that the American forces can be defeated across the breadth of the DMZ with any substantial loss of ground. Another standoff.\\
On the political front, past performance gives no confidence that the Vietnamese government can cope with its problems, now compounded by the attack on the cities. It may not fall, it may hold on, but it probably won't show the dynamic qualities demanded of this young nation. Another standoff.\\
We have been too often disappointed by the optimism of the American leaders, both in Vietnam and Washington, to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds. They may be right, that Hanoi's winter-spring offensive has been forced by the Communist realization that they could not win the longer war of attrition, and that the Communists hope that any success in the offensive will improve their position for eventual negotiations. It would improve their position, and it would also require our realization, that we should have had all along, that any negotiations must be that -- negotiations, not the dictation of peace terms.\\
For it seems now more certain than ever that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate. This summer's almost certain standoff will either end in real give-and-take negotiations or terrible escalation; and for every means we have to escalate, the enemy can match us, and that applies to invasion of the North, the use of nuclear weapons, or the mere commitment of one hundred, or two hundred, or three hundred thousand more American troops to the battle. And with each escalation, the world comes closer to the brink of cosmic disaster.\\
To say that we are closer to victory today is to believe, in the face of the evidence, the optimists who have been wrong in the past. To suggest we are on the edge of defeat is to yield to unreasonable pessimism. To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, yet unsatisfactory, conclusion. On the off chance that military and political analysts are right, in the next few months we must test the enemy's intentions, in case this is indeed his last big gasp before negotiations.\\
But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could.\\
This is '''Walter Cronkite.''' Good night."''
-->-- '''Walter Cronkite'''
->''"If I've lost Cronkite on Vietnam, I've lost Middle America."''
-->-- '''LyndonJohnson'''
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-> He fired at it ''[the baby]'' with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.
-->-- '''Transcript of the Court Martial for the My Lai Massacre'''
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-> He ''"He fired at it ''[the baby]'' with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.
him."''
-->--'''Transcript Transcript of the Court Martial for the My Lai Massacre'''
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-->--'''Interview with Meadlo on CBS News'''
->'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong.
-->--'''Journalist Peter Arnett in The New York Times'''
->We sure liberated the ''hell'' out of this place.
-->-- '''Attributed to an anonymous soldier, on a village destroyed during a firefight'''
->'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong.
-->--'''Journalist Peter Arnett in The New York Times'''
->We sure liberated the ''hell'' out of this place.
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-->-- '''"Napalm Sticks to Kids" - US Army Military Cadence during the Vietnam War'''
->They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other country.
-->--ForrestGump
->The Vietnamese people deeply love independence, freedom and peace. But in the face of United States aggression they have risen up, united as one man.
->They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other country.
-->--ForrestGump
->The Vietnamese people deeply love independence, freedom and peace. But in the face of United States aggression they have risen up, united as one man.
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-->-- '''"Napalm "Napalm Sticks to Kids" - US Army Military Cadence during the Vietnam War'''
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-->--ForrestGump
->Thecountry."''
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
->''"The Vietnamese people deeply love independence, freedom and peace. But in the face of United States aggression they have risen up, united as one man."''
->They're
->''"They're sending me to Vietnam. It's this whole other
-->--ForrestGump
->The
-->-- '''Film/ForrestGump'''
->''"The Vietnamese people deeply love independence, freedom and peace. But in the face of United States aggression they have risen up, united as one man."''
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->And it's 1, 2, 3, what're we fighting for?
->Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
->Next stop is Vietnam.
->And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
->Well there ain't no time to wonder why
->Whoopee! We're all gonna die.
-->--"I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
-> How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?
-->-- '''John Kerry, addressing a U.S. Senate subcommittee in April, 1971'''
->How are you, GI Joe? It seems to me that most of you are poorly informed about the going of the war, to say nothing about a correct explanation of your presence over here. Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die or to be maimed for life without the faintest idea of what's going on.
-->--'''North Vietnamese propaganda broadcast directed at US troops'''
->LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
->Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
->Next stop is Vietnam.
->And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
->Well there ain't no time to wonder why
->Whoopee! We're all gonna die.
-->--"I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
-> How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?
-->-- '''John Kerry, addressing a U.S. Senate subcommittee in April, 1971'''
->How are you, GI Joe? It seems to me that most of you are poorly informed about the going of the war, to say nothing about a correct explanation of your presence over here. Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die or to be maimed for life without the faintest idea of what's going on.
-->--'''North Vietnamese propaganda broadcast directed at US troops'''
->LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
to:
->Don't
Don't ask me, I don't give a
->Next
Next stop is
->And
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly
->Well
Well there ain't no time to wonder
->Whoopee!
Whoopee! We're all gonna
-->--"I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die
-->-- "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
->
-->-- '''John
->How
->''"How are you, GI Joe? It seems to me that most of you are poorly informed about the going of the war, to say nothing about a correct explanation of your presence over here. Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die or to be maimed for life without the faintest idea of what's going
-->--'''North
-->-- North Vietnamese propaganda broadcast directed at US
->LyndonJohnson
->''LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
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To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."
-->--"Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to push on.
-->--"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
->If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read: Vietnam.
-->--'''Martin Luther King'''
->We weren't on the wrong side. We were the wrong side.
-->--'''Daniel Ellsberg'''
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-->--"Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to push on.
-->--"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
->If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read: Vietnam.
-->--'''Martin Luther King'''
->We weren't on the wrong side. We were the wrong side.
-->--'''Daniel Ellsberg'''
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To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."
-->--"Lyndon"''
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
->We're ->''We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to pushon.
-->--"Waiston.''
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
->If ->''"If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read: Vietnam.
-->--'''MartinVietnam."''
-->-- '''Martin Luther King'''
->We ->''"We weren't on the wrong side. We were the wrong side. \n-->--'''Daniel ''"
-->-- '''Daniel Ellsberg'''
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<<|QuotesWiki|>>->''"They crossed the water\\
Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
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-->--"Lyndon
-->-- "Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
And the big fool says to push
-->--"Waist
-->-- "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
-->--'''Martin
-->-- '''Martin Luther King'''
-->-- '''Daniel Ellsberg'''
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Back in '69\\
They fought for glory\\
Behind the enemy lines\\
Fighting for the nations\\
Pushed into the war\\
Without not even knowing why\\
Or what they're fighting for"''
-->-- "Yellow Rain" by '''Pretty Maids'''
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-> '''Mike Wallace''': So you fired something like sixty-seven shots?
-> '''Paul Meadlo''': Right.
-> '''Wallace''': And you killed how many? At that time?
-> '''Meadlo''': Well, I fired them automatic, so you can’t- You just spray the area on them and so you can’t know how many you killed ‘cause they were going fast. So I might have killed ten or fifteen of them.
-> '''Wallace''': Men, women, and children?
-> '''Meadlo''': Men, women, and children.
-> '''Wallace''': And babies?
-> '''Meadlo''': And babies.
-->--'''Interview with Meadlo on CBS News'''
-> '''Paul Meadlo''': Right.
-> '''Wallace''': And you killed how many? At that time?
-> '''Meadlo''': Well, I fired them automatic, so you can’t- You just spray the area on them and so you can’t know how many you killed ‘cause they were going fast. So I might have killed ten or fifteen of them.
-> '''Wallace''': Men, women, and children?
-> '''Meadlo''': Men, women, and children.
-> '''Wallace''': And babies?
-> '''Meadlo''': And babies.
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->'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong.
-->--'''Journalist Peter Arnett in The New York Times'''
-->--'''Journalist Peter Arnett in The New York Times'''
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-> '''Interogator''': Well, tell me, what was so remarkable about Meadlo that made you remember him?
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->If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read: Vietnam.
-->--'''Martin Luther King'''
-->--'''Martin Luther King'''
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->We're waist deep in the Big Muddy\\
And the big fool says to push on.
-->--"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
And the big fool says to push on.
-->--"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy", '''Pete Seeger'''
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-->--'''President John F. Kennedy'''
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-->--'''President John F. Kennedy'''
JohnFKennedy'''
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To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."\\
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To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."\\"
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->LyndonJohnson told the nation,\\
"Have no fear of escalation.\\
I am trying everyone to please.\\
Though it isn't really war,\\
We're sending fifty thousand more,\\
To help save Vietnam from Vietnamese."\\
-->--"Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation", '''Tom Paxton'''
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->''And it's 1, 2, 3, what're we fighting for?
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->Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
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->Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
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->How are you, GI Joe? It seems to me that most of you are poorly informed about the going of the war, to say nothing about a correct explanation of your presence over here. Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die or to be maimed for life without the faintest idea of what's going on.
-->-- '''North Vietnamese propaganda broadcast directed at US troops'''
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-> How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?
-->-- '''John Kerry, addressing a U.S. Senate subcommittee in April, 1971'''
-->-- '''John Kerry, addressing a U.S. Senate subcommittee in April, 1971'''
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Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
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->''And it's 1, 2, 3, what're we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
-->--"I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's 5, 6, 7, open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We're all gonna die.''
-->--"I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag", '''Country Joe and the Fish'''
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-->-- '''Ho Chi Mink'''
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-->-- '''Ho Chi Mink'''
Minh'''
