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->"''Hours and hours of theorizing go into making the most benign statements about this franchise and anything less than rock-hard evidence is thrown right out. That makes it very hard for someone, like me, without encyclopedic knowledge of the franchise to keep up. And ''with'' encyclopedic knowledge, it turns out that's not enough.''"
-->-- Bumbles [=McFumbles=] [[https://youtu.be/a-DbEybuqns explaining the timeline]] of ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''

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->''[WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}] continues to be an extremely, extremely meticulously designed show. But there are so many mysteries stacked on top of each other that it sometimes feels like the writers are shuffling them around randomly, just revisiting them whenever they feel like it. They'll totally abandon a sub-plot from Part 2, and then boom! They'll sideswipe us with it when we're least expecting it. As a result, it feels more like multiple storylines are competing with each other for screen time, rather than being one cohesive narrative.''
-->-- '''WebOriginal/TheRealJims''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IontxFkW66A Netflix Review - Disenchantment (Part 3)]]"


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->''[WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}] continues to be an extremely, extremely meticulously designed show. But there are so many mysteries stacked on top of each other that it sometimes feels like the writers are shuffling them around randomly, just revisiting them whenever they feel like it. They'll totally abandon a sub-plot from Part 2, and then boom! They'll sideswipe us with it when we're least expecting it. As a result, it feels more like multiple storylines are competing with each other for screen time, rather than being one cohesive narrative.''
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheRealJims''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IontxFkW66A Netflix Review - Disenchantment (Part 3)]]"

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-->--'''Dan Shive''', ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' (in the commentary on [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2063 this strip]])

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-->--'''Dan -->-- '''Dan Shive''', ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' (in the commentary on [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2063 this strip]])



-->-- '''Kanaya Maryam''' LampshadeHanging the plot of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''

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-->-- '''Kanaya Maryam''' LampshadeHanging {{lampshad|eHanging}}ing the plot of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''



-->--'''Nick Cramer''' on ''Anime/BlazBlueAlterMemory'' (and the main narrative of [[Franchise/BlazBlue its source material]]), Website/ScrewAttack's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZuki3QTb2s#t=4m3s "Top 10 Worst Cartoons Based on Video Games"]]

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-->--'''Nick -->-- '''Nick Cramer''' on ''Anime/BlazBlueAlterMemory'' (and the main narrative of [[Franchise/BlazBlue its source material]]), Website/ScrewAttack's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZuki3QTb2s#t=4m3s "Top 10 Worst Cartoons Based on Video Games"]]

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'''Master of Masters:''' You silly goose. It's not a ''Kingdom Hearts'' game if it doesn't add more questions to the player.

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'''Master of Masters:''' You silly goose. It's not a ''Kingdom Hearts'' game if [[TheChrisCarterEffect it doesn't add more questions to the player.player]].
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->'''Master of Masters:''' Also, take this black box.\\
'''Luxu:''' What's inside?\\
'''Master of Masters:''' You silly goose. It's not a ''Kingdom Hearts'' game if it doesn't add more questions to the player.
-->-- ''[[WebVideo/KingdomHeartsInANutshell Kingdom Hearts X- Back Cover in a nutshell]]''
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->I Suddenly Dont Understand Anything And Am Currently Casting Sincere Doubt On The Laughable Insinuation That I Or Anyone Else Ever Actually Did For Even A Single Moment
-->-- '''Kanaya Maryam''' LampshadeHanging the plot of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''



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->''It's only at [[TheReveal this point]] in [[TheAnimeOfTheGame the series]] that I realized that the entire concept of'' Franchise/BlazBlue ''revolves around [[StableTimeLoop time looping in on itself]]. But if that's the case, [[NoOntologicalInertia then how come there was]] [[EldritchAbomination the Black Beast]]? But then this really crazy thing happens where, like, Ragna and Noel''[[labelnote:*]]actually [[CloningBlues Nu]]-[[YouAreNumberSix 13]][[/labelnote]] ''don't fall into the Cauldron and they never [[TimeTravel go back in time]] to [[FusionDance form the Black Beast]], which means there shouldn't be any [[TheCorruption seithr]], which means that none of this should've ever happened but it -- [[TimeyWimeyBall it keeps happening]]. I never figured out why.'' ([[DrivenToMadness voice begins to break]]) ''[[FridgeLogic It never made any sense to me]] because somebody didn't think this thing through. Somebody just kept throwing in stuff into the'' [=BlazBlue=] ''lore, thinking people [[MST3KMantra would think]] [[RuleOfCool it was cool]] and I'm sorry to say that [[SuddenlyShouting IT WORKED! BUT IT DIDN'T WORK ON ME! OH NO!]] I see'' [=BlazBlue=] ''for what it really is! It's a mess! It's a crappy mess and [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry I HATE IT!]] [[DissonantSerenity And that's why it's #7.]]''

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->''It's only at [[TheReveal this point]] in [[TheAnimeOfTheGame the series]] that I realized that the entire concept of'' Franchise/BlazBlue ''revolves around [[StableTimeLoop time looping in in]] [[GroundhogDayLoop on itself]]. But if that's the case, [[NoOntologicalInertia then how come there was]] [[EldritchAbomination the Black Beast]]? But then this really crazy thing happens where, like, Ragna and Noel''[[labelnote:*]]actually [[CloningBlues Nu]]-[[YouAreNumberSix 13]][[/labelnote]] ''don't fall into the Cauldron and they never [[TimeTravel go back in time]] to [[FusionDance form the Black Beast]], which means there shouldn't be any [[TheCorruption seithr]], which means that none of this should've ever happened but it -- [[TimeyWimeyBall it keeps happening]]. I never figured out why.'' ([[DrivenToMadness voice begins to break]]) ''[[FridgeLogic It never made any sense to me]] because somebody didn't think this thing through. Somebody just kept throwing in stuff into the'' [=BlazBlue=] ''lore, thinking people [[MST3KMantra would think]] [[RuleOfCool it was cool]] and I'm sorry to say that [[SuddenlyShouting IT WORKED! BUT IT DIDN'T WORK ON ME! OH NO!]] I see'' [=BlazBlue=] ''for what it really is! It's a mess! It's a crappy mess and [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry I HATE IT!]] [[DissonantSerenity And that's why it's #7.]]''



->''"That just raises ''further'' questions!"''

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->''"That ->''"[[WaterIsAir That]] just raises ''further'' ''[[VoodooShark further]]'' questions!"''

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-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert'''



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->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set."''
-->--''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''

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->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set."''
-->--''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''



->''I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous, there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''

->''People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.''
-->--''Website/TheAgonyBooth'', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''Creator/TomWilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school” or why its better or whatever.]] They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son who steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 completely wastes Creator/JeremyPiven...And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow's brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot.''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''Film/{{Rocknrolla}}''



->''It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively.''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "[[Recap/TheXFilesS09E19TheTruth The Truth]]"

->''Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they're wrong. The story doesn't make any sense. It's certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.''
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/2012/05/part-ii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/ "MGS2: A Complete Breakdown"]]

->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''." Then Nojima begins ceaselessly guffawing for five solid hours.''
-->--'''Pat R.''' on ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]

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->''It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively.''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "[[Recap/TheXFilesS09E19TheTruth The Truth]]"

->''Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they're wrong. The story doesn't make any sense. It's certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.''
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/2012/05/part-ii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/ "MGS2: A Complete Breakdown"]]

->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''." Then Nojima begins ceaselessly guffawing for five solid hours.''
-->--'''Pat R.''' on ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]



->'''Jay:''' Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career]].\\
'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?\\
'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones]]...\\
'''Rich:''' ''[guffaws]'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/Halloween1978''




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->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''
-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMcKellen''' on the Film/XMenFilmSeries
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->''It's only at [[TheReveal this point]] in [[TheAnimeOfTheGame the series]] that I realized that the entire concept of'' Franchise/BlazBlue ''revolves around [[StableTimeLoop time looping in on itself]]. But if that's the case, [[NoOntologicalInertia then how come there was]] [[EldritchAbomination the Black Beast]]? But then this really crazy thing happens where, like, Ragna and Noel[[labelnote:*]]actually [[CloningBlues Nu]]-[[YouAreNumberSix 13]][[/labelnote]] don't fall into the Cauldron and they never [[TimeTravel go back in time]] to [[FusionDance form the Black Beast]], which means there shouldn't be any [[TheCorruption seithr]], which means that none of this should've ever happened but it -- [[TimeyWimeyBall it keeps happening]]. I never figured out why.'' ([[DrivenToMadness voice begins to break]]) ''[[FridgeLogic It never made any sense to me]] because somebody didn't think this thing through. Somebody just kept throwing in stuff into the'' [=BlazBlue=] ''lore, thinking people [[MST3KMantra would think]] [[RuleOfCool it was cool]] and I'm sorry to say that [[SuddenlyShouting IT WORKED! BUT IT DIDN'T WORK ON ME! OH NO!]] I see'' [=BlazBlue=] ''for what it really is! It's a mess! It's a crappy mess and [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry I HATE IT!]] [[DissonantSerenity And that's why it's #7.]]''

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->''It's only at [[TheReveal this point]] in [[TheAnimeOfTheGame the series]] that I realized that the entire concept of'' Franchise/BlazBlue ''revolves around [[StableTimeLoop time looping in on itself]]. But if that's the case, [[NoOntologicalInertia then how come there was]] [[EldritchAbomination the Black Beast]]? But then this really crazy thing happens where, like, Ragna and Noel[[labelnote:*]]actually Noel''[[labelnote:*]]actually [[CloningBlues Nu]]-[[YouAreNumberSix 13]][[/labelnote]] don't ''don't fall into the Cauldron and they never [[TimeTravel go back in time]] to [[FusionDance form the Black Beast]], which means there shouldn't be any [[TheCorruption seithr]], which means that none of this should've ever happened but it -- [[TimeyWimeyBall it keeps happening]]. I never figured out why.'' ([[DrivenToMadness voice begins to break]]) ''[[FridgeLogic It never made any sense to me]] because somebody didn't think this thing through. Somebody just kept throwing in stuff into the'' [=BlazBlue=] ''lore, thinking people [[MST3KMantra would think]] [[RuleOfCool it was cool]] and I'm sorry to say that [[SuddenlyShouting IT WORKED! BUT IT DIDN'T WORK ON ME! OH NO!]] I see'' [=BlazBlue=] ''for what it really is! It's a mess! It's a crappy mess and [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry I HATE IT!]] [[DissonantSerenity And that's why it's #7.]]''

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->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."''

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->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set."''



-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''

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-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''
''Film/{{Rocknrolla}}''



->''Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.''

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->''Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re they're wrong. The story doesn’t doesn't make any sense. It’s It's certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.''
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-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMckellen''' on the Film/XMenFilmSeries

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-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMckellen''' Creator/IanMcKellen''' on the Film/XMenFilmSeries

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->''Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the [[TabletopGame/Forgotten Realms Realms]], to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.''

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->''Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the [[TabletopGame/Forgotten Realms [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms Realms]], to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.''



->''[WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}] continues to be an extremely, extremely meticulously designed show. But there are so many mysteries stacked on top of each other that it sometimes feels like the writers are shuffling them around randomly, just revisiting them whenever they feel like it. They'll totally abandon a sub-plot from Part 2, , and then boom! They'll sideswipe us with it when we're least expecting it. As a result, it feels more like multiple storylines are competing with each other for screen time, rather than being one cohesive narrative.''

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->''[WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}] continues to be an extremely, extremely meticulously designed show. But there are so many mysteries stacked on top of each other that it sometimes feels like the writers are shuffling them around randomly, just revisiting them whenever they feel like it. They'll totally abandon a sub-plot from Part 2, , and then boom! They'll sideswipe us with it when we're least expecting it. As a result, it feels more like multiple storylines are competing with each other for screen time, rather than being one cohesive narrative.''



->''It's only at [[TheReveal this point]] in [[TheAnimeOfTheGame the series]] that I realized that the entire concept of'' Franchise/BlazBlue ''revolves around [[StableTimeLoop time looping in on itself]]. But if that's the case, [[NoOntologicalInertia then how come there was]] [[EldritchAbomination the Black Beast]]? But then this really crazy thing happens where, like, Ragna and Noel[[labelnote:*]]actually [[CloningBlues Nu]]-[[YouAreNumberSix 13]][[/labelnote]] don't fall into the Cauldron and they never [[TimeTravel go back in time]] to [[FusionDance form the Black Beast]], which means there shouldn't be any [[TheCorruption seithr]], which means that none of this should've ever happened but it -- [[TimeyWimeyBall it keeps happening]]. I never figured out why.'' ([[DrivenToMadness voice begins to break]]) ''[[FridgeLogic It never made any sense to me]] because somebody didn't think this thing through. Somebody just kept throwing in stuff into the'' [=BlazBlue=] ''lore, thinking people [[MST3KMantra would think]] [[RuleOfCool it was cool]] and I'm sorry to say that [[SuddenlyShouting IT WORKED! BUT IT DIDN'T WORK ON ME! OH NO!]] I see'' [=BlazBlue=] ''for what it really is! It's a mess! It's a crappy mess and [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry I HATE IT!]] [[DissonantSerenity And that's why it's #7.]]''
-->--'''Nick Cramer''' on ''Anime/BlazBlueAlterMemory'' (and the main narrative of [[Franchise/BlazBlue its source material]]), Website/ScrewAttack's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZuki3QTb2s#t=4m3s "Top 10 Worst Cartoons Based on Video Games"]]



->'''Jay''': Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.]]\\

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->'''Jay''': ->'''Jay:''' Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.]]\\career]].\\



'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...]]\\

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'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...]]\\stones]]...\\
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->"We also learn more about the Niwa family: Grandpa's past, Mom's past, Daddy comes home, watch the main character choose his love between the two twins Risa and Riku, meet this random blonde chick, revive a sealed soul named Towa and... FOCUS!"

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->"We ->''"We also learn more about the Niwa family: Grandpa's past, Mom's past, Daddy comes home, watch the main character choose his love between the two twins Risa and Riku, meet this random blonde chick, revive a sealed soul named Towa and... FOCUS!"FOCUS!"''



->"Remember, [[IceCreamKoan answers are only questions with funny hats.]]"

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->"Remember, ->''"Remember, [[IceCreamKoan answers are only questions with funny hats.]]"]]"''



->"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''

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->"Play ->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'''''
"''
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on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''



-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

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-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', -->--''Website/TheAgonyBooth'', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]



->''Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.''

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->''Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, [[TabletopGame/Forgotten Realms Realms]], to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.''



-->-- ''WebOriginal/TheRealJims'', '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IontxFkW66A Netflix Review - Disenchantment (Part 3)]]'''

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-->-- ''WebOriginal/TheRealJims'', '''[[https://www.'''WebOriginal/TheRealJims''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IontxFkW66A Netflix Review - Disenchantment (Part 3)]]'''
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->"That just raises ''further'' questions!"

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->"That ->''"That just raises ''further'' questions!"questions!"''



->"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."

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->"I ->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience.""''
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-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "[[Recap/TheXFilesS09E19E20TheTruth The Truth]]"

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->''Creator/TomWilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school” or why its better or whatever.]] They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son who steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot.''

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->''Creator/TomWilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school” or why its better or whatever.]] They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son who steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... Creator/JeremyPiven...And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s Scarecrow's brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot.''



-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"

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-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"
"[[Recap/TheXFilesS09E19E20TheTruth The Truth]]"



-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

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-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''
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->''[WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}] continues to be an extremely, extremely meticulously designed show. But there are so many mysteries stacked on top of each other that it sometimes feels like the writers are shuffling them around randomly, just revisiting them whenever they feel like it. They'll totally abandon a sub-plot from Part 2, , and then boom! They'll sideswipe us with it when we're least expecting it. As a result, it feels more like multiple storylines are competing with each other for screen time, rather than being one cohesive narrative.''
-->-- ''WebOriginal/TheRealJims'', '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IontxFkW66A Netflix Review - Disenchantment (Part 3)]]'''
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->''Allow me to bamboozle you with my cryptic nonsense that won't pay off for another four seasons!''
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->''It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts"''

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->''It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts"''concepts''
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-->--'''Pat R.''' on ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII, [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]

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-->--'''Pat R.''' on ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]
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->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''." Then Nojima begins ceaselessly guffawing for five solid hours."'

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->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''." Then Nojima begins ceaselessly guffawing for five solid hours."'''
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->''I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous, there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense."''

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->''I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous, there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense."''''
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->''"That just raises ''further'' questions!"''
-->-- '''Hermes Conrad''', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''

->'''Mickey:''' You see? It all makes sense!\\
'''Sora:''' It...does?
-->-- Actual dialogue in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''

->''"Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats."''
-->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[VideoGame/BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''

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!!!Fictional
->''"That just raises ''further'' questions!"''
-->-- '''Hermes Conrad''', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''

->'''Mickey:''' You see? It all makes sense!\\
'''Sora:''' It...does?
-->-- Actual dialogue in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''

->''"Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats."''
-->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[VideoGame/BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''
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!!!Reviews
->''"Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since."''
-->-- '''The Hooded One''', [[WordOfGod Lady Herald of Realmslore]], on SharedUniverse upkeep, [[http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11313&whichpage=1#229210 Candlekeep forums]].

->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''
-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMckellen''' on the ''Film/XMenFilmSeries''

->''"I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense."''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''

->''"Sometimes it really would be easier to just write about the damn characters."''

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!!!Reviews
->''"Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since."''
-->-- '''The Hooded One''', [[WordOfGod Lady Herald of Realmslore]], on SharedUniverse upkeep, [[http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11313&whichpage=1#229210 Candlekeep forums]].

->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''
-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMckellen''' on the ''Film/XMenFilmSeries''

->''"I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense."''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''

->''"Sometimes
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->'''Jay''': Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.]]\\
'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?\\
'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...]]\\
'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

->People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''

->''With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street.''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.cracked.com/article/117_the-5-most-maddeningly-unresolved-tv-plotlines/ The 5 Most Maddeningly Unresolved TV Plotlines]]"

->''"It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively."''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"

->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."''
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''

->Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/2012/05/part-ii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/ "MGS2: A Complete Breakdown"]]

->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''
-->--'''Pat R.''', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]

-> ''"We also learn more about the Niwa family: Grandpa's past, Mom's past, Daddy comes home, watch the main character choose his love between the two twins Risa and Riku, meet this random blonde chick, revive a sealed soul named Towa and... FOCUS!"''

to:

->'''Jay''': Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.]]\\
'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?\\
'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...]]\\
'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

->People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''

->''With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street.''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.cracked.com/article/117_the-5-most-maddeningly-unresolved-tv-plotlines/ The 5 Most Maddeningly Unresolved TV Plotlines]]"

->''"It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively."''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"

->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."''
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''

->Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/2012/05/part-ii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/ "MGS2: A Complete Breakdown"]]

->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''
-->--'''Pat R.''', [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]

-> ''"We
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->"We
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-> ''"It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts."''
-->-- '''El Sandifer''', "[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/a-brief-treatise-on-the-rules-of-thrones-309-the-rains-of-castamere/ A Brief Treatise on the Rules of Thrones 3.09: The Rains of Castamere]]"

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->This comic is convoluted and has a ridiculously huge archive. The story section alone has over 2,000 comics full of weird magic-babble.

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-> ''"It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts."''
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->'''Mickey:''' You see? It all makes sense!\\
'''Sora:''' It...does?
-->-- '''El Sandifer''', "[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/a-brief-treatise-on-the-rules-of-thrones-309-the-rains-of-castamere/ A Brief Treatise on Actual dialogue in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''

->"Remember, [[IcezcreamKoan answers are only questions with funny hats.]]"
-->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[VideoGame/BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''

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->"Play
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->This
mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''

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->''This
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->''I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous, there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense."''
-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''

->''People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.''
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''Creator/TomWilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school” or why its better or whatever.]] They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son who steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot.''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''

->''With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street.''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.cracked.com/article/117_the-5-most-maddeningly-unresolved-tv-plotlines/ The 5 Most Maddeningly Unresolved TV Plotlines]]"

->''It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively.''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"

->''Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it.''
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/2012/05/part-ii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/ "MGS2: A Complete Breakdown"]]

->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''." Then Nojima begins ceaselessly guffawing for five solid hours."'
-->--'''Pat R.''' on ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII, [[http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 "A Series Discovers Its Crack Pipe"]]

->''It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts"''
-->-- '''El Sandifer''' on the Red Wedding, "[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/a-brief-treatise-on-the-rules-of-thrones-309-the-rains-of-castamere/ A Brief Treatise on the Rules of Thrones 3.09: The Rains of Castamere]]"

->''Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting.' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.''
-->-- '''The Hooded One''', [[WordOfGod Lady Herald of Realmslore]], on SharedUniverse upkeep, [[http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11313&whichpage=1#229210 Candlekeep forums]].

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->'''Jay''': Poor Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.]]\\
'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?\\
'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...]]\\
'''Rich:''' ''[guffaws]'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->-- ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

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->"That just raises ''further'' questions!"
-->-- '''Hermes Conrad''', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''

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->"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."
-->-- '''Sir Creator/IanMckellen''' on the Film/XMenFilmSeries
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->'''The Dude:''' I dropped off the money exactly as per... look, man, I've got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh, you know, running around, uh, uh, blaming me, you know, given the nature of all this new shit, you know, I-I-I-I... this could be a-a-a-a lot more, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, complex, I mean, it's not just, it might not be just such a simple... uh, you know?\\
'''The Big Lebowski:''' What in God's holy name are you blathering about?!
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-->-- '''Phil Sandifer''', "[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/a-brief-treatise-on-the-rules-of-thrones-309-the-rains-of-castamere/ A Brief Treatise on the Rules of Thrones 3.09: The Rains of Castamere]]"

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-->--'''The Hooded One''', [[WordOfGod Lady Herald of Realmslore]], on SharedUniverse upkeep, [[http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11313&whichpage=1#229210 Candlekeep forums]].

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-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''[[{{Film/X-Men}} X-Men 3: The Last Stand]]''

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-->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''[[{{Film/X-Men}} X-Men 3: The Last Stand]]''
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