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** Nelson is a total geek and a bully victim... but this means he's also CrazyPrepared and surprisingly good at standing up for himself in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. A lifelong obsession with fantasy and social justice means he's not only very GenreSavvy but tends to pick up on subtle hints and parallels that everyone else misses. He's also extremely empathetic and, though he's introduced as socially awkward, is actually pretty good at readind and understanding people.

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** Nelson is a total geek and a bully victim... but this means he's also CrazyPrepared and surprisingly good at standing up for himself in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. A lifelong obsession with fantasy and social justice means he's not only very GenreSavvy but tends to pick up on subtle hints and parallels that everyone else misses. He's also extremely empathetic and, though he's introduced as socially awkward, is actually pretty good at readind reading and understanding people.
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* CoitusInterruptus: While about to get busy in a barn, Billy and Jen don't get beyond removing Jen's armor before Regan shows up out of nowhere, comments on how easy and therefore useless Jen's armor was to remove, and drops off some actual armor for the now very embarrassed girl.After this, it becomes a RunningGag for the rest of the book that whenever Billy and Jen try to have sex, something happens that interrupts them.

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* CoitusInterruptus: While about to get busy in a barn, Billy and Jen don't get beyond removing Jen's armor before Regan shows up out of nowhere, comments on how easy and to remove (and therefore useless useless) Jen's armor was to remove, was, and drops off some actual armor for the now very embarrassed girl.girl. After this, it becomes a RunningGag for the rest of the book that whenever Billy and Jen try to have sex, something happens that interrupts them.
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Even though the Has Two Mommies trope is gone, Platonic Co Parenting is not an accurate description of the situation here since Gwen and Arlene are very much a couple and as such there's nothing platonic about their parenting. Since I can't find a better-fitting trope, I'm deleting.


* PlatonicCoParenting: Though Arlene and Gwen are reluctant about it, the orc baby they rescue is shaping up towards this. Despite insisting that they're only taking care of him until they find a safe place for him to stay, and even refuse to name him at first for fear of growing too attatched to him, as time passes they both find themselves thinking of and treating him as their own child.
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* HasTwoMommies: Though Arlene and Gwen are reluctant about it, the orc baby they rescue is shaping up towards this. Despite insisting that they're only taking care of him until they find a safe place for him to stay, and even refuse to name him at first for fear of growing too attatched to him, as time passes they both find themselves thinking of and treating him as their own child.


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* PlatonicCoParenting: Though Arlene and Gwen are reluctant about it, the orc baby they rescue is shaping up towards this. Despite insisting that they're only taking care of him until they find a safe place for him to stay, and even refuse to name him at first for fear of growing too attatched to him, as time passes they both find themselves thinking of and treating him as their own child.
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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Frequently mentioned by Regan, mostly to rile up whoever she's talking to for kicks.

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* DumbJock: Billy, a source of angst for him, as he's knows not smart enough make something of himself academically and also not a good enough jock to advance through sports. The fear of returning to this no-win situation has made him reluctant to look for a way home.

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* DumbJock: Billy, which is a source of angst for him, as he's knows not smart enough make something of himself academically and also not a good enough jock to advance through sports. The fear of returning to this no-win situation has made him reluctant to look for a way home.



* HasTwoMommies: Though Arlene and Gwen are reluctant about it, the orc baby they rescue is shaping up towards this. Despite insisting that they're only taking care of him until they find a safe place for him to stay, and even refuse to name him at first for fear of growing too attatched to him, as time passes they both find themselves thinking of and treating him as their own child.



-->'''Nelson:''' Darn! Principal Connor must have had them cut off internet to these computers after school hours. [[GoshDangItToHeck Darn, darn, darn!]]\\
'''Billy:''' You’re a nerd, can’t you just reroute the encryptions or some shit like that and shut up about it?\\
'''Nelson:''' ...Oh. I see. You must have been taken in by the popular misconception that everyone smart knows how to hack a computer. Or that computer hacking is magic. Or that encryptions are a thing that can be rerouted.

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-->'''Nelson:''' Darn! Principal Connor must have had them cut off internet to these computers after school hours. [[GoshDangItToHeck Darn, darn, darn!]]\\
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-->'''Billy:''' You’re a nerd, can’t you just reroute the encryptions or some shit like that and shut up about it?\\
'''Nelson:''' ...Oh. Oh, I see. You must have been taken in by the popular misconception that everyone smart knows how to hack a computer. Or that computer hacking is magic. Or that encryptions are a thing that can be rerouted.

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'''Nelson:''' ...Oh. I see. You must have been taken in by the popular misconception that everyone smart knows how to
hack a computer. Or that computer hacking is magic. Or that encryptions are a thing that can be rerouted.

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'''Nelson:''' ...Oh. I see. You must have been taken in by the popular misconception that everyone smart knows how to
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* ChainmailBikini: What Jen is initially hooked up with at the insistence of her two horny school companions. According to the seller, it's for "moral support" rather than combat. It has no real use and Regan gets her some more practical leather armor that actually covers Jen's entire body later.

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* ChainmailBikini: What Jen is initially hooked up with at the insistence of her two horny school companions. According to the seller, it's for "moral support" rather than combat. It has no real use use, and Regan later gets her Jen some more practical leather armor that actually covers Jen's entire body later.her body.



* FantasticRacism: Yllowyyn makes "human" jokes. Yllodyk tries to touch Nelson's hair. [[spoiler:The Elves systematically oppress the Orcs.]]

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* FantasticRacism: Rampant with the elves. Yllowyyn makes "human" jokes. jokes and Yllodyk tries to touch Nelson's hair. [[spoiler:The Elves also systematically oppress the Orcs.]]Orcs, spreading false information about them as total monsters. Some, like Yllowyn, believe the stories themselves and are shocked when they find out it's not true and it's the elves who may be the bad guys here.]] Nelson, who is black and has experienced actual racism back in Pennsylvania, is often the one who draws the parallels. Nia, who is also black but lives in a world where skin color isn't what's discriminated against, has problems seeing the parallels at first.



* GenreSavvy: Nelson has long hid himself in Fantasy stories and games, which definitely comes in handy when magically transported to a fantasy world. The natives of Iorden, lacking awareness of the tropes their world runs on, are frequently surprised when he seemingly pulls unknowable information out of thin air.

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* GenreSavvy: Nelson has long hid himself in Fantasy stories and games, which definitely comes in handy when magically transported to a fantasy world. The natives of Iorden, lacking awareness of the tropes their world runs on, are frequently surprised when he seemingly pulls unknowable information out of thin air. His knowledge does have a number of holes in it and is far from always correct, though -- see WrongGenreSavvy below.



* HiddenDepths: All three Pennsylvania kids have a lot more to them than they present at first.
** Billy's JerkJock tendencies are a result of his terrible relationship with his abusive father and the fact that he's more or less resigned himself to the idea that he's never going to make anything of himself. In one of the first earnest conversations he has with Nelson, he reveals that he always knew smart and savvy Nelson was going to go far.
** Nelson is a total geek and a bully victim... but this means he's also CrazyPrepared and surprisingly good at standing up for himself in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. A lifelong obsession with fantasy and social justice means he's not only very GenreSavvy but tends to pick up on subtle hints and parallels that everyone else misses. He's also extremely empathetic and, though he's introduced as socially awkward, is actually pretty good at readind and understanding people.
** Jen acts like a DumbBlonde, but it's soon revealed that she's been ObfuscatingStupidity all along, playing herself up as the BrainlessBeauty for fear that her true self wouldn't be accepted. She's actually the smartest and most knowledgeable of the trio; she's usually the quickest to grasp a new situation, and the best at improvising in a tight spot.
* HollywoodHacking: Defied and mocked by Nelson in the first episode, when he can't get online through the school computers.
-->'''Nelson:''' Darn! Principal Connor must have had them cut off internet to these computers after school hours. [[GoshDangItToHeck Darn, darn, darn!]]\\
'''Billy:''' You’re a nerd, can’t you just reroute the encryptions or some shit like that and shut up about it?\\
'''Nelson:''' ...Oh. I see. You must have been taken in by the popular misconception that everyone smart knows how to
hack a computer. Or that computer hacking is magic. Or that encryptions are a thing that can be rerouted.



* JerkJock: Billy, thanks to his abusive relationship with his rather, can't express his own emotions well and instead lashes out from repressed anger and needs constant gratification. Confronting a conjuring of his father after the Templars attempt to get him has led him to try to be more expressive in a constructive manner

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* JerkJock: Billy, thanks Billy is introduced as one. Thanks to his abusive relationship with his rather, can't express his own emotions well and instead lashes out from repressed anger and needs constant gratification. Confronting a conjuring of his father after the Templars attempt to get him has led him to try to be more expressive in a constructive mannermanner. As the story progresses he becomes much more of a LovableJock.



* LipstickLesbian: Arlene is a very gentle, feminine lady who likes pretty clothes. As the story progresses she realizes that she is and has been in love with her handmaiden Gwen for a long time.



* ServileSnarker: Gwen is a very ''subtle'' version of this towards Ardel. She knows exactly what she can get away with saying, or ''not'' saying without making him ''too'' angry. She very seldom snarks at Arlene, though; and even on the rare occasions when she does it's good-natured and loving.



%%* StandardFantasySetting: Iorden is a world in what seems to be a medieval status, with kings and cavaliers, elves and orcs, dragons and magic. At first it seems like an ''extremely'' stereotypical fantasy world, though it doesn't take long before a lot of the standard fantasy tropes are {{deconstructed}} to various degrees; especially the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of orcs [[spoiler:being revealed to be little more than Elven propaganda to keep the humans from seeing the orcs as anything but monsters.]]

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%%* * StandardFantasySetting: Subverted. Iorden is a world in what seems to be a medieval status, with kings and cavaliers, elves and orcs, dragons and magic. At first it seems like an ''extremely'' stereotypical fantasy world, though it doesn't take long before a lot of the standard fantasy tropes are {{deconstructed}} to various degrees; especially the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of orcs [[spoiler:being revealed to be little more than Elven propaganda to keep the humans from seeing the orcs as anything but monsters.]]

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* AnythingThatMoves: Regan is not picky about her sex partners, especially not about what gender they are.


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* ExtremeOmnisexual: Regan is not picky about her sex partners, especially not about what gender they are.
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* CantArgueWithElves: Played up for all it's worth. The elves are physically superior to humans in just about every way -- stronger, faster, and more agile, with sharper senses and infinitely longer lifespans, and they also have the strongest army and hold the most military power in Iorden. They's also haughty, arrogant, bigoted and often callous; while they certainly present themselves as the helpers and protectors of humanity, on the whole they have very little respect or regard for anyone but themselves and quite a few humans (especially those who are poor and already on the bottom rung of the ladder) view them as heartless and oppressive tyrants, who just demand and demand and have to be appeased if you want to stay alive. You ''do'' get the occasional elf who is more reasonable and more willing to listen (Yllowyyn is one of them especially after his HeelRealization), but overall the elves aren't prone to give any humans the time of day.

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* CantArgueWithElves: Played up for all it's worth. The elves are physically superior to humans in just about every way -- stronger, faster, and more agile, with sharper senses and infinitely longer lifespans, and they also have the strongest army and hold the most military power in Iorden. They's also haughty, arrogant, bigoted and often callous; while they certainly present themselves as the helpers and protectors of humanity, on the whole they have very little respect or regard for anyone but themselves and quite themselves. Quite a few humans (especially those who are poor and already on the bottom rung of the ladder) view them as heartless and oppressive tyrants, who just demand and demand and have to be appeased if you want to stay alive. You ''do'' get the occasional elf who is more reasonable and more willing to listen (Yllowyyn is one of them especially after his HeelRealization), but overall the elves aren't prone to give any humans the time of day.
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%%* StandardFantasySetting: Iorden is a world in what seems to be a medieval status, with kings and cavaliers, elves and orcs, dragons and magic. At first it seems like an ''extremely'' stereotypical fantasy world, though it doesn't take long before a lot of the standard fantasy tropes are {{deconstructed}} to various degrees; especially the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of orcs being revealed to be little more than Elven propaganda to keep the humans from seeing the orcs as anything but monsters.

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%%* StandardFantasySetting: Iorden is a world in what seems to be a medieval status, with kings and cavaliers, elves and orcs, dragons and magic. At first it seems like an ''extremely'' stereotypical fantasy world, though it doesn't take long before a lot of the standard fantasy tropes are {{deconstructed}} to various degrees; especially the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of orcs being [[spoiler:being revealed to be little more than Elven propaganda to keep the humans from seeing the orcs as anything but monsters.]]

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* BigEgoHiddenDepths: Billy is introduced as an arrogant and self-confident JerkJock, but as the story goes on it's revealed that much of his attitude is an act to hide his [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex insecurities]]; he's fully aware that while he's one of the star athletes of his small-time school, he's nowhere near good enough to make it professional. Convinced he's not smart enough to make any other career for himself, he's essentially given up on having any kind of future, has resigned himself to becoming just another JadedWashout like his father, and in the meantime just acts like a jerk towards "geeks" like Nelson, whom he knows has a greater future in front of them.



* GenreSavvy: Nelson has long hid himself in Fantasy stories and games, which definitely comes in handy when magically transported to a fantasy world. The Iodren adventures, lacking awareness of the tropes their world runs on, are frequently surprised when he seemingly pulls unknowable information out of thin air.

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* FireForgedFriends: Pretty much the entire main party, to various degrees. Every single member of the party starts out distrusting or disliking at ''least'' one other member -- Billy and Nelson do not get along at all at first; Yllowyyn often clashes with the humans, and Regan is hostile to everybody. As they go through hardships, they end up growing closer and learning to trust one another.
* GenreSavvy: Nelson has long hid himself in Fantasy stories and games, which definitely comes in handy when magically transported to a fantasy world. The Iodren adventures, natives of Iorden, lacking awareness of the tropes their world runs on, are frequently surprised when he seemingly pulls unknowable information out of thin air.



* TheLoad: Both Nelson and Billy tend to worry that they're this. Especially Billy often laments that he's no use to anyone and just makes everything harder for everyone around him.



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* AmbitionIsEvil: Ry'ylo-Th'yyt is highly ambitious and totally ruthless; she plans to be High Chancellor before she's 500 and will stop at nothing to reach that goal.



* CantArgueWithElves: Played up for all it's worth. The elves are physically superior to humans in just about every way -- stronger, faster, and more agile, with sharper senses and infinitely longer lifespans, and they also have the strongest army and hold the most military power in Iorden. They's also haughty, arrogant, bigoted and often callous; while they certainly present themselves as the helpers and protectors of humanity, on the whole they have very little respect or regard for anyone but themselves and quite a few humans (especially those who are poor and already on the bottom rung of the ladder) view them as heartless and oppressive tyrants, who just demand and demand and have to be appeased if you want to stay alive. You ''do'' get the occasional elf who is more reasonable and more willing to listen (Yllowyyn is one of them especially after his HeelRealization), but overall the elves aren't prone to give any humans the time of day.



* HateSink: Ardel. He's got approximately zero redeeming qualities, already as a child he torments and tortures his twin sister seemingly for no other reason than that [[BecauseItAmusedMe he thinks it's funny]]. As an adult he's a total psycopath who abuses his power over others, mistreats anyone he can mistreats, has anyone he doesn't like tortured or put to death, and gleefully plots death and destruction. To top it all off he's also a DirtyCoward who folds like a deck chair the moment he isn't in control of a situation.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: Ry'ylo-Th'yyt certainly likes to present herself as one of these, justifying everything she does as being "for the good of her people." But really, her main drive seems to be her own ambitions; there is ''nothing'' she won't do and ''nobody'' she won't backstab if that furthers her goals.



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* BigDamnHeroes: In an AccidentalHero sort of way. Just as Ry'ylo-Th'yyt is about to kill Arlene, she's interrupted a flock of pigeons and a stoned-off-his-ass Yllowyyn, who sobers up when he recognizes Arlene and realizes something is ''very'' wrong.

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* EruditeStoner: Yllodyk has traits of this. Her love for "herbs" is a big part of her character, but she's smarter and more insightful than her brother Yllowyyn.



* FantasticRacism: Yllowyyn makes "human" jokes. Yllodyck tries to touch Nelson's hair. [[spoiler:The Elves systematically oppress the Orcs.]]

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* FantasticRacism: Yllowyyn makes "human" jokes. Yllodyck Yllodyk tries to touch Nelson's hair. [[spoiler:The Elves systematically oppress the Orcs.]]



* NobleBigot: Elves in general are racist bigots, but they do have a very strong sense of honor and duty. Yllowyn is a prime example; he's brave, honorable and with tons of prejudices -- though he insists that he has no prejudices against humans; why, he had a human nanny when he was young!

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* NobleBigot: Elves in general are racist bigots, but they do have a very strong sense of honor and duty. Yllowyn Yllowyyn is a prime example; he's brave, honorable and with tons of prejudices -- though he insists that he has no prejudices against humans; why, he had a human nanny when he was young!



* RobbingTheDead: Ylloween has Billy and Nelson pick the pockets of slain mercenaries for anything of value. Both are creeped out by this, and Nelson finds the ItemDropMechanic isn't as clean as video games make it out to be.

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* RobbingTheDead: Ylloween Yllowyyn has Billy and Nelson pick the pockets of slain mercenaries for anything of value. Both are creeped out by this, and Nelson finds the ItemDropMechanic isn't as clean as video games make it out to be.

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