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** If Bob goes the entire game without engaging with ''any'' of his in-game relationships, he'll eventually snap and become the MainCharacterFinalBoss that his teammates will be forced to fight against.



** The game makes it a point to give the player incentives to engage with its RelationshipValues. It also punishes the player via not allowing them to use combination attacks or restricting access to each party members stronger attacks, will also hit them with a NonStandardGameOver at various points, allow them to EarnYourBadEnding and if on route to the bad ending, Hiro becomes a MainCharacterFinalBoss.



** The entire game has Hiro trapped in a LotusEaterMachine. The goal of the game is to escape by ruining every single relationship in the game by picking every antagonistic option in the game and engaging in VideoGameCrueltyPotential at every turn, effectively derailing the narrative of the fake world, and allowing you to fight the TrueFinalBoss who exists in the real world.



* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very weak...
* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, as he travels, meeting people and defeating monsters, he starts gaining a reputation among the populace. So, the farther in the game he gets the more he must refrain from taking actions which will hurt his reputation, as every infraction will drastically decrease his strength.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very weak...
** Hiro's party members start to turn against him if he acts callously towards them. This may cause them to pull a FaceHeelTurn against you, their dialogue becomes more insulting and personal, and they will outright abuse FriendlyFire any chance they can get. Unfortunately for Hiro, his quest becomes far more difficult because everyone [[HeroWithBadPublicity hates his guts.]]
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however, as he travels, meeting people and defeating monsters, he starts gaining a reputation among the populace. So, the farther in the game he gets the more he must refrain from taking actions which will hurt his reputation, as every infraction will drastically decrease his strength.strength.
** However, if Hiro is willing to put in the effort, his quest gets gradually easier, being able to induce a HeelFaceTurn in several key antagonists, and he gains the PowerOfFriendship right before the ClimaxBoss. Your allies will speak glowingly of you, and will even take the bullet for you if you're at critical HP. With each successful case of RelationshipValues, Hiro gains new powers and abilities, allowing him to pull a CurbstompBattle against Emperor Evulz if he went out of his way to do everything before storming TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon.
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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like Princess Velvet], her sister Satine, their maids Minako and Kaya, the head of the knights Isaac, his best man Kelvin... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.

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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like Princess Velvet], Velvet, her sister Satine, their maids Minako and Kaya, the head of the knights Isaac, his best man Kelvin... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.
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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] has to work to befriend his teammates [[WhiteMagicianGirl Ma]][[MysteriousWaif na]], [[TheLancer Pi]][[BoisterousBruiser ke]], [[StrawberryShorthand Ic]][[ChildMage hi]][[PlayingWithFire go]], [[CombatMedic Kow]][[BadassBookworm al]][[NotSoStoic ski]], [[ImprobableWeaponUser Che]][[CrazyAwesome rry]], [[LadyOfWar Aya]][[TeamMom nami]] and [[LoveableRogue Ma]][[HandsomeLech rk]]. If he neglects their relationship, he can't team up with them for {{Combination Attack}}s.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] has to work to befriend his teammates [[WhiteMagicianGirl Ma]][[MysteriousWaif na]], Mana]], [[TheLancer Pi]][[BoisterousBruiser ke]], [[StrawberryShorthand Ic]][[ChildMage hi]][[PlayingWithFire go]], Pike]], [[ChildMage Ichigo]], [[CombatMedic Kow]][[BadassBookworm al]][[NotSoStoic ski]], Kowalski]], [[ImprobableWeaponUser Che]][[CrazyAwesome rry]], Cherry]], [[LadyOfWar Aya]][[TeamMom nami]] Ayanami]] and [[LoveableRogue Ma]][[HandsomeLech rk]].Mark]]. If he neglects their relationship, he can't team up with them for {{Combination Attack}}s.



** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Isaac]], his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.

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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], Princess Velvet], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], Satine, their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] Minako and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], Kaya, the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Isaac]], Isaac, his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]...Kelvin... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': In the beginning, relationship meters are purely cosmetic, not even affecting dialogue. However, later in the game, the party starts gaining stronger abilities which are LostForever if Hiro has a low relationship with them. Eventually though, the same party members gain stronger abilities exclusively if your relationship with them is low.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': In the beginning, relationship meters are purely cosmetic, not even affecting dialogue. However, later in the game, the party starts gaining stronger abilities which are LostForever {{permanently missable|Content}} if Hiro has a low relationship with them. Eventually though, the same party members gain stronger abilities exclusively if your relationship with them is low.



* '''Played For Drama''': As their trust in him fades, Hiro's companions grow increasingly distant and grow less likely to listen to him. If Hiro doesn't find some way to repair the relationship, he risks [[LostForever losing them for good]] -- [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere one]] [[FaceHeelTurn way]] [[BreakingTheFellowship or]] [[KilledOffForReal another]].

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* '''Played For Drama''': As their trust in him fades, Hiro's companions grow increasingly distant and grow less likely to listen to him. If Hiro doesn't find some way to repair the relationship, he risks [[LostForever [[PermanentlyMissableContent losing them for good]] -- [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere one]] [[FaceHeelTurn way]] [[BreakingTheFellowship or]] [[KilledOffForReal another]].one way or another.
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* '''Subverted''': Hero and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all.
* '''Double Subverted''': Hero and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all, right up until a pivotal moment in the plot where it turns out only the power of friendship can save mankind.
* '''Parodied''': The party will stop fighting mid-battle, and insist the Hiro give them gifts or spend time with them before they will fight.

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* '''Subverted''': Hero Hiro and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all.
* '''Double Subverted''': Hero Hiro and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all, right up until a pivotal moment in the plot where it turns out only the power of friendship can save mankind.
* '''Parodied''': The party will stop fighting mid-battle, and insist the that Hiro give them gifts or spend time with them before they will fight.
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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Issac]], his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.

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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Issac]], Isaac]], his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.
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* '''Downplayed''': You can lose items or storylines form openly ignoring important characters, but it's not as bad as it could be.

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* '''Downplayed''': You If you are intentionally rude to characters, you can lose items or storylines form openly ignoring important characters, and dialogue options that give more flavor to the world, but it's not as bad as it could be.you never miss any story or gameplay items from it.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???You can lose items or storylines form openly ignoring important characters, but it's not as bad as it could be.

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* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very weak...
* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, as he travels, meeting people and defeating monsters, he starts gaining a reputation among the populace. So, the farther in the game he gets the more he must refrain from taking actions which will hurt his reputation, as every infraction will drastically decrease his strength.



* '''Played For Laughs''':

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* '''Played For Laughs''':'''Deconstructed''': Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very weak...
* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, as he travels, meeting people and defeating monsters, he starts gaining a reputation among the populace. So, the farther in the game he gets the more he must refrain from taking actions which will hurt his reputation, as every infraction will drastically decrease his strength.






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* '''Exaggerated''': If he neglects to befriend any of his teammates, they may [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere leave]] or [[FaceHeelTurn turn on him]].

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If he neglects to befriend any of his teammates, they may [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere leave]] or [[FaceHeelTurn turn on him]].



* '''Justified''': Hiro starts as a total stranger and must earn their trust; otherwise, he can't function effectively as their leader.

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Hiro starts as a total stranger and must earn their trust; otherwise, he can't function effectively as their leader.



* '''Inverted''': Hiro has to push his LockedOutOfTheLoop friends away, or they wind up KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade, causing him to suffer a HeroicBSOD and [[NonstandardGameOver ending his story]].

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Hiro has to push his LockedOutOfTheLoop friends away, or they wind up KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade, causing him to suffer a HeroicBSOD and [[NonstandardGameOver ending his story]].
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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] has to work to befriend his teammates [[StaffChick Ma]][[MysteriousWaif na]], [[TheLancer Pi]][[BoisterousBruiser ke]], [[StrawberryShorthand Ic]][[ChildMage hi]][[PlayingWithFire go]], [[CombatMedic Kow]][[BadassBookworm al]][[NotSoStoic ski]], [[ImprobableWeaponUser Che]][[CrazyAwesome rry]], [[LadyOfWar Aya]][[TeamMom nami]] and [[LoveableRogue Ma]][[HandsomeLech rk]]. If he neglects their relationship, he can't team up with them for {{Combination Attack}}s.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheHero Hiro]] has to work to befriend his teammates [[StaffChick [[WhiteMagicianGirl Ma]][[MysteriousWaif na]], [[TheLancer Pi]][[BoisterousBruiser ke]], [[StrawberryShorthand Ic]][[ChildMage hi]][[PlayingWithFire go]], [[CombatMedic Kow]][[BadassBookworm al]][[NotSoStoic ski]], [[ImprobableWeaponUser Che]][[CrazyAwesome rry]], [[LadyOfWar Aya]][[TeamMom nami]] and [[LoveableRogue Ma]][[HandsomeLech rk]]. If he neglects their relationship, he can't team up with them for {{Combination Attack}}s.
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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his {{Nakama}}, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Issac]], his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.

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** On top of having to manage his relationships with all of his {{Nakama}}, TrueCompanions, Hiro ''also'' has to consider his relationship with important {{NPC}}s like [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Vel]][[TheStrategist vet]], her sister [[PrincessesPreferPink Sat]][[ThePollyanna ine]], their maids [[PluckyGirl Minako]] and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Kaya]], the head of the knights [[ColonelBadass Issac]], his best man [[KnightInShiningArmor Kelvin]]... the list goes on and on. Neglecting any of them could trigger a NonStandardGameOver.



* '''Invoked''': [[TheEmperor Emperor]] [[ForTheEvulz Evulz]] sends his agents to sow distrust among the {{Nakama}} that Hiro must work to overcome.

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* '''Invoked''': [[TheEmperor Emperor]] [[ForTheEvulz Evulz]] sends his agents to sow distrust among the {{Nakama}} TrueCompanions that Hiro must work to overcome.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very week...

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* '''Deconstructed''': Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very week...weak...
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** Hiro runs on ThePowerOfFriendship.

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** Hiro's relationships with the other characters are directly connected to his fighting ability, so failing to get all the best equipment will make everyone hate him.



* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???
The party will stop fighting mid-battle, and insist the Hiro give them gifts or spend time with them before they will fight.
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
Hiro magically becomes stronger or weaker depending on whether he is liked or disliked by society at large. Because hardly anyone knows who he is, he starts off very week...
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
'''Reconstructed''': ...however, as he travels, meeting people and defeating monsters, he starts gaining a reputation among the populace. So, the farther in the game he gets the more he must refrain from taking actions which will hurt his reputation, as every infraction will drastically decrease his strength.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
In the beginning, relationship meters are purely cosmetic, not even affecting dialogue. However, later in the game, the party starts gaining stronger abilities which are LostForever if Hiro has a low relationship with them. Eventually though, the same party members gain stronger abilities exclusively if your relationship with them is low.
* '''Averted''': ???Relationship meters are purely cosmetic, or aren't included.



* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"It's petty of me to leave you when you're trying to save the world, Hiro, but I can't take you anymore."
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* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???

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* '''Subverted''': ???
Hero and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all.
* '''Double Subverted''': ???Hero and his party are all on a mission to save the world, and all recognise that they need each other, even if they cannot stand each other at all, right up until a pivotal moment in the plot where it turns out only the power of friendship can save mankind.

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