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* '''Justified''': The character may have flaws and bad traits but he is still capable of doing nice things and is not against doing nice things as long as they don't interfere with his ultimate goal.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** The character may have flaws and bad traits but he is still capable of doing nice things and is not against doing nice things as long as they don't interfere with his ultimategoal.goal.
** The character has BlackAndWhiteInsanity: he is an absolute monster to everyone, but not to those he perceives as benign, innocent or simply cute, like children and puppies.
** The character may have flaws and bad traits but he is still capable of doing nice things and is not against doing nice things as long as they don't interfere with his ultimate
** The character has BlackAndWhiteInsanity: he is an absolute monster to everyone, but not to those he perceives as benign, innocent or simply cute, like children and puppies.
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Since this trope is a villain or a jerk doing something nice, I think What The Hell Hero would count as an inversion.
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* '''Inverted''': KickTheDog
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* '''Inverted''': KickTheDog'''Inverted''':
** KickTheDog
** WhatTheHellHero
** KickTheDog
** WhatTheHellHero
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** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
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** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.question: "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new. Every now and then, a little victim's spared... because she smiled, cos he's got freckles, cos they begged. And that's how you live with yourself, that's how you slaughter millions, because once in a while, on a whim, if the wind's in the right direction, you happen to be kind."
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** The usually violent and cold InspectorJavert saves a kid, makes funny faces to cheer him up, and even buys him candy.
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** The usually violent and cold InspectorJavert Inspector Javert saves a kid, makes funny faces to cheer him up, and even buys him candy.
** During a footchase with the Protagonist, Inspector Javert slows down so he does not push over a kid, even if it risk him getting away.
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** Not only will he refuse to kill a child that he [[PragmaticVillainy doesn't get anything from killing]] but he will actually save children that are [[EnemyCivilWar endangered by other villains]] that he comes across as long as it doesn't interfere with one of his plans, making him [[ALighterShadeOfBlack ALighterShadeOfBlack]] in the setting.
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** Not only will he refuse to kill a child that he [[PragmaticVillainy doesn't get anything from killing]] but he will actually save children that are [[EnemyCivilWar endangered by other villains]] that he comes across as long as it doesn't interfere with one of his plans, making him [[ALighterShadeOfBlack ALighterShadeOfBlack]] ALighterShadeOfBlack in the setting.
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** Not only will he refuse to kill a child that he [[PragmaticVillainy doesn't get anything from killing]] but he will actually save children that are [[EnemyCivilWar endangered by other villains]] that he comes across as long as it doesn't interfere with one of his plans, making him [[ALighterShadeOfBlack ALighterShadeOfBlack]] in the setting.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Exploited''': ???Emperor Evilz tips his valet every once in a while to avoid complete ZeroPercentApprovalRating
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* '''Downplayed''': The villain sincerely thanks his minion for something, demonstrating that he's at least polite.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** The villain sincerely thanks his minion for something, demonstrating that he's at leastpolite.polite.
** A JerkAss apologizes after he sees that he hurt someone's feelings.
** The villain sincerely thanks his minion for something, demonstrating that he's at least
** A JerkAss apologizes after he sees that he hurt someone's feelings.
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** The hero suddenly does something cruel and unheroic.
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** The hero suddenly does something cruel and unheroic.
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** An irredeemably evil villain stops his evil plans just to help an elderly woman cross the street, rescue a cat stuck in a tree, give a million dollars to a homeless person, and buy an ice cream cone for a sad child.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Downplayed''': ???The villain sincerely thanks his minion for something, demonstrating that he's at least polite.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The usually violent and cold InspectorJavert saves a kid, makes funny faces to cheer him up, and even buys him candy.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** The usually violent and cold InspectorJavert saves a kid, makes funny faces to cheer him up, and even buys him candy.
** The usually violent and cold InspectorJavert saves a kid, makes funny faces to cheer him up, and even buys him candy.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GreyAndGrayMorality.
** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil. Alternately, using [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor's]] take on it, the villain in question really does feel conflicted about his actions and they may even lead to a HeelFaceTurn
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GreyAndGrayMorality.
** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil. Alternately, using [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor's]] take on it, the villain in question really does feel conflicted about his actions and they may even lead to a HeelFaceTurn
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''':
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GreyAndGrayMorality.
** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil. Alternately, using [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor's]] take on it, the villain in question really does feel conflicted about his actions and they may even lead to a HeelFaceTurn.
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GreyAndGrayMorality.
** Alternatively, what [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil. Alternately, using [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor's]] take on it, the villain in question really does feel conflicted about his actions and they may even lead to a HeelFaceTurn.
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%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
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* '''Inverted''': See KickTheDog
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* '''Inverted''': See KickTheDog
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** Petting the dog was a pretense so he could slip a USB thumbdrive (containing top secret files stolen from the Pentagon's computers) into the dog's collar and smuggle it through airport security.
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** Petting the dog was a pretense so he could slip a USB thumbdrive (containing top secret files stolen from the Pentagon's computers) into the dog's collar and smuggle it through airport security. security.
** It looks like he's refusing to kill a child because he's not that despicable. But then he reveals that he has no problems with killing children, he just refused to do it because [[PragmaticVillainy it's inefficient and he gains nothing from doing so]].
** It looks like he's refusing to kill a child because he's not that despicable. But then he reveals that he has no problems with killing children, he just refused to do it because [[PragmaticVillainy it's inefficient and he gains nothing from doing so]].
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* '''Justified''': The character may have flaws and bad traits but he isn't a CompleteMonster and is still capable of doing nice things and is not against doing nice things as long as they don't interfere with his ultimate goal.
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* '''Justified''': The character may have flaws and bad traits but he isn't a CompleteMonster and is still capable of doing nice things and is not against doing nice things as long as they don't interfere with his ultimate goal.
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** They want to establish the villain isn't a CompleteMonster,and that he has [[RousseauWasRight some good in him]]
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** They want to establish the villain isn't a CompleteMonster,and that he has [[RousseauWasRight some good in him]]
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* '''Discussed''': "Well, that guy stopped to save a kitten before he flooded the town, so he'd probably be easier to talk to about this [[EvilerThanThou even worse guy]] than [[CompleteMonster the guy who burned down the orphanage]].
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* '''Discussed''': "Well, that guy stopped to save a kitten before he flooded the town, so he'd probably be easier to talk to about this [[EvilerThanThou even worse guy]] than [[CompleteMonster the guy who burned down the orphanage]].orphanage.
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** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GrayAndGreyMorality.
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** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GrayAndGreyMorality.GreyAndGrayMorality.
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* '''Subverted''': He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]].
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]].
** He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]].
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* '''Double Subverted''': He lets the little girl go, but then shoots at her while she's running away. Why? Because some idiot on the other side of the line was pointing a gun at her, and that's who he was shooting.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** He lets the little girl go, but then shoots at her while she's running away. Why? Because some idiot on the other side of the line was pointing a gun at her, and that's who he was shooting.
** He lets the little girl go, but then shoots at her while she's running away. Why? Because some idiot on the other side of the line was pointing a gun at her, and that's who he was shooting.
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* '''Deconstructed''': This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GrayAndGreyMorality.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GrayAndGreyMorality.
** This used to present the idea that absolute moral judgement is not possible, shifting the setting to full-on GrayAndGreyMorality.
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* '''Enforced''': "Given that this guy's going to do a HeelFaceTurn later, we need to set up that he's not such a bad person now."
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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
** "Given that this guy's going to do a HeelFaceTurn later, we need to set up that he's not such a bad person now."
** "Given that this guy's going to do a HeelFaceTurn later, we need to set up that he's not such a bad person now."
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* '''Invoked''': "See? I avoid killing puppies. That makes me not a CompleteMonster!"
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** "See? I avoid killing puppies. That makes me not a CompleteMonster!"
** "See? I avoid killing puppies. That makes me not a CompleteMonster!"
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* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil.
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* '''Reconstructed''': He does little acts of kindness because if absolutely moral purity is not possible, neither is absolute moral evil. Alternately, using [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor's]] take on it, the villain in question really does feel conflicted about his actions and they may even lead to a HeelFaceTurn
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** Alternatively, what [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
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** Alternatively, what [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] said about this sort of behavior and what it says about the villain in question.
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* '''Discussed''': ???
"Well, that guy stopped to save a kitten before he flooded the town, so he'd probably be easier to talk to about this [[EvilerThanThou even worse guy]] than [[CompleteMonster the guy who burned down the orphanage]].
* '''Conversed''':???"I'm trying to find a way to show people that I'm not just about oppression. Should I adopt an orphan or something? Dictators with hearts in shows are always adopting kids or puppies or cute little kittens..."
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???The villain lets the little girl go, but then shoots her. But then it turns out she was actually a demon in disguise. Then it turns out the demon was also a child and a NobleDemon to boot, so they're not evil. Then it turns out that the NobleDemon was being controlled by an EldritchAbomination, but then that turns out to be NotEvilJustMisunderstood...
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* '''Subverted''': He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]]
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* '''Subverted''': He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]]EVVILLL]].
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** They want to establish the villain isn't a CompleteMonster,and that he has [[RosseauWasRight [[RousseauWasRight some good in him]]
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* '''Straight''': The InspectorJavert saves a kid, rather then capturing the Protagonist (who doesn't know about the kid, and thus is spared MoralDissonance).
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* '''Straight''': The InspectorJavert saves a kid, rather then than capturing the Protagonist (who doesn't know about the kid, and thus is spared MoralDissonance).
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* '''Lampshaded''': The villan sees the hero, and after seeing a puppy nearby, decides to pet it while the hero watches specifically so he can make the hero doubt that he's the bad guy.
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* '''Lampshaded''': The villan villain sees the hero, and after seeing a puppy nearby, decides to pet it while the hero watches specifically so he can make the hero doubt that he's the bad guy.
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** They want to establish the villain isn't a CompleteMonster,and that he has [[RosseauWasRight some good in him]]
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** "If you let me go, people won't be able to hate you, because it will show them you're not a CompleteMonster."
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** Or, he's a ManipulativeBastard, and this is a calculated move to play mind games with the protagonist.
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** Or, he's a ManipulativeBastard, and this is a calculated move to play mind games with the protagonist.protagonist.
** Petting the dog was a pretense so he could slip a USB thumbdrive (containing top secret files stolen from the Pentagon's computers) into the dog's collar and smuggle it through airport security.
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* '''Subverted''': He pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]]
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* '''Subverted''': He [[BaitTheDog pretends to let the little girl go, but then shoots her her]] InTheBack. Why? 'Cause he's [[ForTheEvulz EVVILLL]]
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???The villan sees the hero, and after seeing a puppy nearby, decides to pet it while the hero watches specifically so he can make the hero doubt that he's the bad guy.
