History PlayingWith / MinMaxing

12th Dec '13 6:41:50 PM SgtFrog1
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* '''Enforced''': KillerGameMaster.

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* '''Enforced''': KillerGameMaster. If your character keeps dying because of a ridiculously tough GM, you're going to make a character for the express purpose of surviving as long as possible.
6th Jul '13 10:26:52 PM VPhantom
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* '''Inverted''': Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" noncombat skills save her life on numerous occasions.

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* '''Inverted''': Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" noncombat non-combat skills save her life on numerous occasions.



* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself, etc.]]

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Minnie's [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself, etc.]]



* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.



* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.

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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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6th Jul '13 8:21:12 PM skywerewolf
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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** Alternatively: Maxie has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Maxie is clearly overpowered, but in game it mostly makes sense and often she's good for the story, but even better at winning fights.



* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Enforced''': ???
KillerGameMaster.
* '''Lampshaded''': ???"You know, despite her social idiocy, Maxine's really good with that hammer. ''really'' good."



* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Minnie is TheLoonie and her character, while overpowered, acts out every single flaw taken significantly. One of the most routine scenes is somebody trying to talk with Maxine in a tavern, and every time it ends up with the tavern empty aside from the party [[NoodleIncident with stories so odd they sum it up to a sentence and refused to talk about it further to avoid hours of explanation.]]



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27th Dec '12 6:46:25 AM ikeepcrawlingback
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* '''Justified''': The game's cooperative nature and brutal difficulty curve demand specialization to avoid a TotalPartyKill.

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* '''Justified''': The game's cooperative nature and brutal difficulty curve demand specialization to avoid a TotalPartyKill.'''Justified''':
27th Dec '12 6:45:05 AM ikeepcrawlingback
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* '''Exaggerated''': ???

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* '''Exaggerated''': ???Minnie sacrifices her legs and eyes for mastery of all magic. She never misses them.



* '''Justified''':

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* '''Justified''': The game's cooperative nature and brutal difficulty curve demand specialization to avoid a TotalPartyKill.



* '''Inverted''': ???

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* '''Inverted''': ???Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" noncombat skills save her life on numerous occasions.
27th Dec '12 6:25:38 AM VPhantom
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** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a compelling and quite interesting backstory to back it up.

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** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a [[HiddenDepths compelling and quite interesting backstory backstory]] to back support it up.
27th Dec '12 6:24:22 AM VPhantom
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* '''Exaggerated''':

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* '''Exaggerated''': ???



* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a compelling and quite interesting backstory to back it up.
* '''Inverted''': ???



* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/Goblins low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself]]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/Goblins [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself]]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
herself, etc.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???



* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Defied''': Minnie refuses to be [[Main/Munchkin that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has to.

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* '''Lampshaded''':
'''Enforced''': ???
* '''Invoked''':
'''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Minnie refuses to be [[Main/Munchkin [[{{Munchkin}} that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has to.



* '''Conversed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
* '''Played For Drama''':

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* '''Conversed''':
'''Conversed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''':
'''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Played For Drama''': '''Reconstructed''':
** ...So her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.


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26th Dec '12 10:03:02 PM Simpson17866
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* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.

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* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
19th Dec '12 6:34:16 AM Simpson17866
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** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that needs to be taken down a peg.

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** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg.peg every one in a while.
19th Dec '12 6:32:37 AM Simpson17866
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* '''Double Subverted''': ... because she could tell by the way they were looking at her funny that they thought she didn't know how to make a character actually effective (and maybe she really didn't), and lied to hide her embarrassment.

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* '''Double Subverted''': ... because she could tell by the way they were looking at her funny that they thought she didn't know how to make a character actually effective effectively (and maybe she really didn't), and lied to hide her embarrassment.
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