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** Minnie is worried about her character being useless at any point in the campaign, so she made Maxine a JackOfAllStats so she can participate in every aspect of the campaign.
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** Minnie is worried about her character being useless at any point in the campaign, doesn't want to feel left out, so she made Maxine a JackOfAllStats so she can participate in every aspect of the campaign.
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* '''Defied''': Minnie refuses to be [[{{Munchkin}} that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has to.
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** Minnie refuses to be [[{{Munchkin}} that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she hasto.to.
** Maxine wants to be a well-rounded person and is aware that adventuring is more than just combat, so she spends time working on non-combat skills.
** Minnie refuses to be [[{{Munchkin}} that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has
** Maxine wants to be a well-rounded person and is aware that adventuring is more than just combat, so she spends time working on non-combat skills.
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* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and Maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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* '''Implied''': '''Implied''':
** During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and Maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front ofMaxine.Maxine.
** Minnie just shrugs when the DM states that her character, Maxine, might not be fun to play in non-combat scenarios.
** During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and Maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of
** Minnie just shrugs when the DM states that her character, Maxine, might not be fun to play in non-combat scenarios.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being inflexible.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM DM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being inflexible.
* '''Played For Drama''':
** Maxine's utter incompetence at anything non-combat related means that her teammates have to pick up the slack or clean up the mess when she inevitably comes across a situation that isn't resolvable via copious amounts of violence. This causes the rest of the teammates to despise her.
** Minnie plays the campaign not for fun, but to [[{{munchkin}} win]] and her character reflects that. In contrast, the DM and the other players focus less on winning and more on storytelling. The massive disparity in play styles between her and the other players lead to arguments.
** Maxine's utter incompetence at anything non-combat related means that her teammates have to pick up the slack or clean up the mess when she inevitably comes across a situation that isn't resolvable via copious amounts of violence. This causes the rest of the teammates to despise her.
** Minnie plays the campaign not for fun, but to [[{{munchkin}} win]] and her character reflects that. In contrast, the DM and the other players focus less on winning and more on storytelling. The massive disparity in play styles between her and the other players lead to arguments.
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** The DM and other players don't mind because they knew what Minnie was up to. The DM enjoys the the challenge of making a campaign that can challenge Maxine ''and'' not leave everyone else behind and the other players like how Minnie play Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy warrior that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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** The DM and other players don't mind because they knew what Minnie was up to. The DM enjoys the the challenge of making a campaign that can challenge Maxine ''and'' not leave everyone else behind and the other players like how Minnie play plays Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy warrior that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Invoked''': Minnie reads over a
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* '''Exaggerated''': Minnie sacrifices her legs and eyes for mastery of all magic. She never misses them.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Minnie sacrifices her legs and eyes makes Maxine a blind quadruple amputee in exchange for the mastery of all magic. She never misses them.Maxine is ''so'' powerful that she nearly breaks the [[StoryBreakerPower story]].
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* '''Inverted''': Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" non-combat skills save her life on numerous occasions.
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* '''Inverted''':
** Maxine is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" non-combat skills save her life on numerous
** Minnie is worried about her character being useless at any point in the campaign, so she made Maxine a JackOfAllStats so she can participate in every aspect of the campaign.
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** Alternatively: Maxine has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
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** Alternatively: Maxine has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
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** Maxine is so powerful that GM is forced to scale the campaign's enemies around her. This results in the other players quitting since they're no longer finding the campaign fun as their characters are doing ScratchDamage and/or getting {{One Hit Kill}}ed.
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** Maxine is so powerful that GM DM is forced to scale the campaign's enemies around her. This results in the other players quitting since they're no longer finding the campaign fun as their characters are doing ScratchDamage and/or getting {{One Hit Kill}}ed. As a result, the DM no longer allows Minnie to join any future campaigns due to her {{munchkin}} tendencies.
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** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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** Minnie doesn't complain to the The DM and other players don't mind because she they knew what she Minnie was getting her character into, and actually rather up to. The DM enjoys role-playing the the challenge of making a campaign that can challenge Maxine ''and'' not leave everyone else behind and the other players like how Minnie play Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy warrior that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that reallymatter.matter.
** Maxine is so powerful that GM is forced to scale the campaign's enemies around her. This results in the other players quitting since they're no longer finding the campaign fun as their characters are doing ScratchDamage and/or getting {{One Hit Kill}}ed.
** The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really
** Maxine is so powerful that GM is forced to scale the campaign's enemies around her. This results in the other players quitting since they're no longer finding the campaign fun as their characters are doing ScratchDamage and/or getting {{One Hit Kill}}ed.
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'''Basic Trope''': A game player only improves a few specific skills that s/he considers important for their character, and either ignores all other possible skills or takes penalties on them in exchange for even more bonuses.
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'''Basic Trope''': A game player only improves a few specific skills that s/he considers they consider important for their character, and either ignores all other possible skills or takes penalties on them in exchange for even more bonuses.
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** Each member of the team focuses on the skills related to their role within it. EG: Alice min-maxes on offense, Bob on medical skills, Charles on defense and Dennis on magic.
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*** Alternatively, Maxine could be some kind of SuperSoldier who was created by a mad scientist who thought of the most optimal creation to assist people on their journeys.
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*** Alternatively, Maxine could be some kind of SuperSoldier who was created by a mad scientist who thought of the most optimal creation to assist people on their journeys.
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** Alternatively: Maxie has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Maxie is clearly overpowered, but in game it mostly makes sense and often she's good for the story, but even better at winning fights.
* '''Averted''': Minnie doesn't skew Maxine's skill-set anymore than anybody else in the gaming community
* '''Zig Zagged''': Maxie is clearly overpowered, but in game it mostly makes sense and often she's good for the story, but even better at winning fights.
* '''Averted''': Minnie doesn't skew Maxine's skill-set anymore than anybody else in the gaming community
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** Alternatively: Maxie Maxine has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
* '''Zig Zagged''':Maxie Maxine is clearly overpowered, but in game it mostly makes sense and often she's good for the story, but even better at winning fights.
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* '''Averted''': Minnie doesn't skew Maxine's skill-set
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* '''Exploited''': ???The KillerGameMaster puts Maxine into a DeathTrap she can't fight her way out of, knowing that she doesn't stand a chance without non-combat skills.
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* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine Maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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* '''Enforced''': KillerGameMaster.
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* '''Enforced''': KillerGameMaster. If your character keeps dying because of a ridiculously tough GM, you're going to make a character for the express purpose of surviving as long as possible.
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* '''Inverted''': Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" noncombat skills save her life on numerous occasions.
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* '''Inverted''': Minnie is an extreme JackOfAllStats whose "useless" noncombat non-combat skills save her life on numerous occasions.
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* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself, etc.]]
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** Minnie's [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself, etc.]]
** Minnie's [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself, etc.]]
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.inflexible.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
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** Alternatively: Maxie has very obvious life problems that are solved by [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer the combat skill she has.]] It gets to the point where, rather than simply pay a few copper for a single drink at the tavern, she routinely ''[[DisproportionateRetribution beats the living crap out of the owner and all the town guards]]'' because she doesn't have any barter skill to reduce the cost.
* '''Zig Zagged''':???Maxie is clearly overpowered, but in game it mostly makes sense and often she's good for the story, but even better at winning fights.
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* '''Lampshaded''':???"You know, despite her social idiocy, Maxine's really good with that hammer. ''really'' good."
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Maxine was made to test the other players, and see how well they would take her into the story. When it's clear the other players are intent on screwing over Minnie rather than making a story around it. In the end the GM makes Maxine ''more'' unbeatable just to punish the players for being unflexable.
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Minnie is TheLoonie and her character, while overpowered, acts out every single flaw taken significantly. One of the most routine scenes is somebody trying to talk with Maxine in a tavern, and every time it ends up with the tavern empty aside from the party [[NoodleIncident with stories so odd they sum it up to a sentence and refused to talk about it further to avoid hours of explanation.]]
* '''Implied''': During what is basically characters meeting with a HeroOfAnotherStory and his group, Maxine seems socially awkward and a little dumb to the heroes, but while the characters are talking a loud crash is heard, and maxine has not only sliced open the large door blocking their way forward, which stopped both parties, but a high level enemy is seen slain in front of Maxine.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Minnie is TheLoonie and her character, while overpowered, acts out every single flaw taken significantly. One of the most routine scenes is somebody trying to talk with Maxine in a tavern, and every time it ends up with the tavern empty aside from the party [[NoodleIncident with stories so odd they sum it up to a sentence and refused to talk about it further to avoid hours of explanation.]]
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* '''Justified''': The game's cooperative nature and brutal difficulty curve demand specialization to avoid a TotalPartyKill.
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* '''Justified''': The game's cooperative nature and brutal difficulty curve demand specialization to avoid a TotalPartyKill.'''Justified''':
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* '''Exaggerated''': ???Minnie sacrifices her legs and eyes for mastery of all magic. She never misses them.
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** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a compelling and quite interesting backstory to back it up.
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** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a [[HiddenDepths compelling and quite interesting backstory backstory]] to back support it up.
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* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a compelling and quite interesting backstory to back it up.
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** There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
** Minnie is role-playing Maxine as a character that SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, she even has a compelling and quite interesting backstory to back it up.
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* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/Goblins low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself]]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
* '''Zig Zagged''':
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Parodied''': Minnie's [[WebComic/Goblins [[WebComic/{{Goblins}} low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: Furniture) by trading her abilities to read, start fires, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress herself]]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.herself, etc.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
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* '''Defied''': Minnie refuses to be [[Main/Munchkin that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has to.
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'''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Minnie thought that they would, and Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
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** ...So her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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** ...So her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ... so her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack [[BunnyEarsLawyer so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.
one.]]
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and actually rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg every one in a while.
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** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that needs to be taken down a peg.
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** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that doesn't get the "real" world and needs to be taken down a peg.peg every one in a while.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ... because she could tell by the way they were looking at her funny that they thought she didn't know how to make a character actually effective (and maybe she really didn't), and lied to hide her embarrassment.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ... because she could tell by the way they were looking at her funny that they thought she didn't know how to make a character actually effective effectively (and maybe she really didn't), and lied to hide her embarrassment.
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* '''Straight''': Max puts a lot of skill points into his character's offensive capabilities, but not into things that involve
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* '''Straight''': Max Minnie puts a lot of skill points into his character's her character Maxine's offensive capabilities, but not into things skills that involvedo not involve combat.
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* '''Downplayed''': Max makes one of his character's stats a little higher than one would expect.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character could do, they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character could do, they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
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* '''Downplayed''': Max makes Minnie gives Maxine one of his character's stats skill that's a little higher than one most would expect.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a charactercould ''could'' do, rather they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people just go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character
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* '''Subverted''':
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''': [[Webcomic/Goblins A low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: ''Furniture'') by trading his abilities to read, start fires, ''wink, rhyme on purpose, dress himself'']]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Max thought that they would, and his character is incapable of doing the things that matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so his more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they have an impossibly powerful fighter when they need one.
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''': [[Webcomic/Goblins A low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: ''Furniture'') by trading his abilities to read, start fires, ''wink, rhyme on purpose, dress himself'']]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Max thought that they would, and his character is incapable of doing the things that matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so his more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they have an impossibly powerful fighter when they need one.
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* '''Subverted''':
'''Subverted''': When Minnie tells her party about the stats/skills she ignored to focus on combat, she finishes by saying that she was only joking.
* '''DoubleSubverted''':
Subverted''': ... because she could tell by the way they were looking at her funny that they thought she didn't know how to make a character actually effective (and maybe she really didn't), and lied to hide her embarrassment.
* '''Parodied''':[[Webcomic/Goblins A Minnie's [[WebComic/Goblins low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: ''Furniture'') Furniture) by trading his her abilities to read, start fires, ''wink, wink, rhyme on purpose, dress himself'']]
herself]]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more thanMax Minnie thought that they would, and his character Maxine is incapable of doing the things that really matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... sohis her more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they can still have an impossibly powerful fighter for when they actually need one.one.
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that needs to be taken down a peg.
* '''Double
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so
** Minnie doesn't complain to the DM because she knew what she was getting her character into, and rather enjoys role-playing Maxine as the arrogant AxCrazy that needs to be taken down a peg.
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* '''Averted''': Max doesn't skew his skill-set anymore than the rest of the gaming community
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* '''Averted''': Max Minnie doesn't skew his Maxine's skill-set anymore than the rest of anybody else in the gaming community
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* '''Defied''': Max
* '''Discussed''': Max defends his character: [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining "In order to get really, really good at something, you have to study it for at least 10,000 hours. All that time spent studying has to come from somewhere."]]
* '''Discussed''': Max defends his character: [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining "In order to get really, really good at something, you have to study it for at least 10,000 hours. All that time spent studying has to come from somewhere."]]
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* '''Defied''': Max
Minnie refuses to be [[Main/Munchkin that guy,]] so she doesn't skew Maxine's skill set any more than she has to.
* '''Discussed''':Max Minnie defends his her character: [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining "In order to get really, really good at something, you have to study it for at least 10,000 hours. All that time spent studying has to come from somewhere."]]
* '''Discussed''':
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'''Basic Trope''': A game player only improves a few specific skills that s/he considers important for their character, and either ignores all other possible skills or takes penalties on them in exchange for even more bonuses.
* '''Straight''': Max puts a lot of skill points into his character's offensive capabilities, but not into things that involve
* '''Exaggerated''':
* '''Downplayed''': Max makes one of his character's stats a little higher than one would expect.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character could do, they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
* '''Inverted''':
* '''Subverted''':
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''': [[Webcomic/Goblins A low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: ''Furniture'') by trading his abilities to read, start fires, ''wink, rhyme on purpose, dress himself'']]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Max thought that they would, and his character is incapable of doing the things that matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so his more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they have an impossibly powerful fighter when they need one.
* '''Zig Zagged''':
* '''Averted''': Max doesn't skew his skill-set anymore than the rest of the gaming community
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Defied''': Max
* '''Discussed''': Max defends his character: [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining "In order to get really, really good at something, you have to study it for at least 10,000 hours. All that time spent studying has to come from somewhere."]]
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
* '''Played For Drama''':
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* '''Straight''': Max puts a lot of skill points into his character's offensive capabilities, but not into things that involve
* '''Exaggerated''':
* '''Downplayed''': Max makes one of his character's stats a little higher than one would expect.
* '''Justified''': There are things that the character really won't need to do. Nobody puts equal emphasis on ''everything'' that a character could do, they focus on what they are going to need more, and some people go 1-2 steps further than everybody else.
* '''Inverted''':
* '''Subverted''':
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''': [[Webcomic/Goblins A low level fighter has stupidly high combat related stats and abilities (including Weapon Proficiency: ''Furniture'') by trading his abilities to read, start fires, ''wink, rhyme on purpose, dress himself'']]
* '''Deconstructed''': The "worthless" skills come up in the campaign a lot more than Max thought that they would, and his character is incapable of doing the things that matter.
* '''Reconstructed''': ... so his more competent, well-rounded teammates pick up the slack so that they have an impossibly powerful fighter when they need one.
* '''Zig Zagged''':
* '''Averted''': Max doesn't skew his skill-set anymore than the rest of the gaming community
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Defied''': Max
* '''Discussed''': Max defends his character: [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining "In order to get really, really good at something, you have to study it for at least 10,000 hours. All that time spent studying has to come from somewhere."]]
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
* '''Played For Drama''':
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