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** The citizens side against Bob because Alice is a VillainWithGoodPublicity.
** The citizens [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer hated Bob]] and enjoyed Alice mistreating him.
** The citizens [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer hated Bob]] and enjoyed Alice mistreating him.
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** Alice had JerkassRealization before and [[TheAtoner tries to atone for her actions]]. [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic Bob didn't notice it]] and [[VillainBall proceeded to bully her anyway]].
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** After judging Bob to be a jerk, the people side with Alice, and in doing so turn a blind eye to her continuing cruelty.
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* '''Reconstructed''': As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
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* '''Reconstructed''': As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]]] Even though they think he is a jerk, they grudgingly defend him from Alice.
* '''Implied''': Bob is rumored to be a jerkass, but he still has loyal friends. When asked why by one of his friends, he mumbles something about how fighting back isn't allowed.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice engages in HypocriticalHumor about how bullying is wrong.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's reputation is ruined, and he falls into depression.
* '''Implied''': Bob is rumored to be a jerkass, but he still has loyal friends. When asked why by one of his friends, he mumbles something about how fighting back isn't allowed.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice engages in HypocriticalHumor about how bullying is wrong.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's reputation is ruined, and he falls into depression.
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** There are rational people within the crowd that point out that those painting Bob in a negative light aren't seeing the entire situation properly.
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* '''Straight''': Bob gives Alice a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech long lecture about how much he's sick and tired of her cruelty]]. As Alice [[MinorInsultMeltdown cries after hearing this]], the citizens label Bob as a bigger jerk than Alice.
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* '''Straight''': Bob gives Alice a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech long lecture about how much he's sick and tired of her cruelty]]. As Alice [[ItsAllAboutMe Alice]] [[MinorInsultMeltdown cries after hearing this]], the citizens label Bob as a bigger jerk than Alice.
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* '''Exploited''': ???[[DarkMessiah Charles]] is planning a revolution against society as a whole, and who better than those society treated unjustly - such as Bob - to join your cause?
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* '''Discussed''': ???Bob to the mob:
** "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion Then by your standards, aren't you all rotten people for hurting a jerk's - aka me - feelings?]]"
** "Is stopping a crime no one cared about a punishable offense? Because you sure make it sound as such."
** "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion Then by your standards, aren't you all rotten people for hurting a jerk's - aka me - feelings?]]"
** "Is stopping a crime no one cared about a punishable offense? Because you sure make it sound as such."
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** He starts making out Alice's supporters to be [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter absolute morons]], thus he decides to [[LetThemDie let them suffer from her cruelty]].
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** He starts making out Alice's supporters to be [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter absolute morons]], thus he decides to [[LetThemDie [[MurderByInaction let them suffer from her cruelty]].
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** Alice turned it into a WoundedGazelleGambit.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob [[WouldHitAGirl gives Alice a serious beatdown]] after all of these years of her physically assaulting him. The citizens treat this as [[MoralEventHorizon atrocious]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob[[WouldHitAGirl [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown gives Alice a serious beatdown]] beating]] after all of these years of her physically assaulting him. The citizens treat this as [[MoralEventHorizon atrocious]].atrocious]].
** Bob tells Alice to go to hell after she made his life a nightmare for years, only for the bystanders to label Bob as a CompleteMonster because [[FelonyMisdemeanor he hurt his oppressor's feelings]].
** Bob
** Bob tells Alice to go to hell after she made his life a nightmare for years, only for the bystanders to label Bob as a CompleteMonster because [[FelonyMisdemeanor he hurt his oppressor's feelings]].
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** The citizens tolerate Alice despite his {{Jerkass}} nature.
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** The citizens tolerate Alice despite his did not see Alice's {{Jerkass}} nature.nature beforehand.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
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* '''Conversed''': "So this episode is telling us never get back at a jerk or you will be like one."
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* '''Conversed''': "So this episode is telling us never get back at a jerk or you will be like one." "Yep. that whole "you'll be just like him" crap never flew with me."
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** He starts making out Alice's supporters to be [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter absolute morons]], thus he decides to [[LetThemDie let them suffer from her cruelty]].
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** The citizens tolerate Bob despite his {{Jerkass}} nature.
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** The citizens tolerate Bob Alice despite his {{Jerkass}} nature.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Some argue that Bob was in the wrong for getting back at Alice while others disagree.
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** The citizens tolerate Bob despite his {{Jerkass}} nature.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob was treated like a CompleteMonster because he asked Alice not to be so mean.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob was treated like a CompleteMonster the worst human being of all time because he asked Alice not to be so mean.
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* '''Defied''': ???
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* '''Defied''': ???The crowd decided to hear both sides of the story before deciding what to do.
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* '''Inverted''': Praising a character for their kindness makes others kind to you.
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** Praising a character for their kindness makes others kind toyou.you.
** Bob is so cruel to Alice that this made him a hero to everyone's eyes.
** PunishedForSympathy
** Praising a character for their kindness makes others kind to
** Bob is so cruel to Alice that this made him a hero to everyone's eyes.
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** They feel that Bob [[HeWhoFightsMonsters getting back at him made him worse than Alice.]]
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** They feel that Bob [[HeWhoFightsMonsters getting back at him Alice made him worse than Alice.she is.]]
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** Alice actually had a [[KickTheSonOfABitch good reason to be cruel to Bob]].
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** Alice actually had a [[KickTheSonOfABitch good reason to be cruel to Bob]].They feel that Bob [[HeWhoFightsMonsters getting back at him made him worse than Alice.]]
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** Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
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** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
** As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
* '''Reconstructed''':
** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
** As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** Because Bob"So this episode is seen as telling us never get back at a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
**or you will be like one."
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
*'''Reconstructed''':
** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
**'''Reconstructed''': As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Because Bob
**
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
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** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
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'''Basic Trope''': Calling out a {{Jerkass}} makes a character a bigger {{Jerkass}}.
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'''Basic Trope''': Calling out a {{Jerkass}} makes a an unsympathetic character a bigger {{Jerkass}}.makes the character unsympathetic.
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* '''Invoked''': ???[[ManipulativeBastard Alice]] pretends to feel hurt just to get everyone's sympathy and turn them against Bob.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she was rude to him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob that while Alice was out of line, he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she was rude to him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell chew out Bob that while Alice was out of line, he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises advise him to apologize to her.
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** The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].
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** The citizens believe thought that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].Bob going way too far.
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* '''Parodied''': ???Bob was treated like a CompleteMonster because he asked Alice not to be so mean.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry withAlice.Alice.
** As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
** But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with
** As much as the crowd hate to admit, [[JerkassHasAPoint Bob still has a point.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in thewild.wild.
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
** Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the
** Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, but if they're treating him like a jerk, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then let him be a jerk]].
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** Alice actually had a good reason to be cruel to Bob.
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** Alice actually had a [[KickTheSonOfABitch good reason to be cruel to Bob.Bob]].
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** Alice had a good reason to be cruel to Bob.
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** Alice actually had a good reason to be cruel to Bob.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she mistreats him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob that while Alice was out of line, he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
* '''Justified''': The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].
* '''Justified''': The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she mistreats was rude to him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob that while Alice was out of line, he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
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** The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than theoffender]].offender]].
** Alice had a good reason to be cruel to Bob.
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** Alice had a good reason to be cruel to Bob.
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'''Basic Trope''': Calling out a {{Jerkass}} makes you a character a bigger {{Jerkass}}.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she mistreats him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob that while Alice was out of line, he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens are angry with Alice.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens (and Bob) are angry with Alice.
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'''Basic Trope''': Calling out a {{Jerkass}} makes you a bigger {{Jerkass}}.
*'''Straight''': Bob gives Alice a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech long lecture about how much he's sick and tired of her cruelty]]. As Alice [[MinorInsultMeltdown cries after hearing this]], the citizens label Bob as a bigger jerk than Alice.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob [[WouldHitAGirl gives Alice a serious beatdown]] after all of these years of her physically assaulting him. The citizens treat this as [[MoralEventHorizon atrocious]].
*'''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she mistreats him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
*'''Justified''': The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].
*'''Inverted''': Praising others for their kindness makes you kind to others.
*'''Subverted''': As Bob is surrounded by the angry citizens, it looks like they are to give him a stern talking to, but they eventually praise him for how he dealt with Alice.
*'''Double Subverted''': But as they realize that they are happy for Alice's suffering, they felt guilty and directly chew out Bob.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': ???
*'''Averted''': Bob is never called out for giving Alice verbal justice.
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*'''Lampshaded''': "So I call out Alice, who's been treating me like crap, and now I'm the bad guy?"
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*'''Discussed''': ???
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*'''Deconstructed''': Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
*'''Reconstructed''': But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens are angry with Alice.
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*'''Straight''': Bob gives Alice a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech long lecture about how much he's sick and tired of her cruelty]]. As Alice [[MinorInsultMeltdown cries after hearing this]], the citizens label Bob as a bigger jerk than Alice.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob [[WouldHitAGirl gives Alice a serious beatdown]] after all of these years of her physically assaulting him. The citizens treat this as [[MoralEventHorizon atrocious]].
*'''Downplayed''': Bob tells off Alice for the way she mistreats him. Alice sadly leaves, and the citizens tell Bob he was being [[WasTooHardOnHim too hard on her]] and advises him to apologize to her.
*'''Justified''': The citizens believe that [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil with evil]] can [[HeWhoFightsMonsters make the victim worse than the offender]].
*'''Inverted''': Praising others for their kindness makes you kind to others.
*'''Subverted''': As Bob is surrounded by the angry citizens, it looks like they are to give him a stern talking to, but they eventually praise him for how he dealt with Alice.
*'''Double Subverted''': But as they realize that they are happy for Alice's suffering, they felt guilty and directly chew out Bob.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': ???
*'''Averted''': Bob is never called out for giving Alice verbal justice.
*'''Enforced''': ???
*'''Lampshaded''': "So I call out Alice, who's been treating me like crap, and now I'm the bad guy?"
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*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
*'''Deconstructed''': Because Bob is seen as a jerk for calling out Alice, what makes matters worse he heard that Alice [[DrivenToSuicide jumped off of a building, killing herself in the process]]. Now Bob has been expelled from society and has to fend for himself in the wild.
*'''Reconstructed''': But Alice faked her suicide just to make Bob feel guilty for what he did to him. Now the citizens are angry with Alice.
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