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** TheTeamNormal gets very, ''[[RageBreakingPoint very]]'' upset after TheObiWan gives him the "[[WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures only magic can hurt magic]]" spiel for the billionth freaking time.

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** TheTeamNormal gets very, ''[[RageBreakingPoint very]]'' upset after TheObiWan gives him the "[[WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures only magic can hurt must be stopped by magic]]" spiel for the billionth freaking time.
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* '''Played For Drama''':
** A bunch of valiant RedShirt cops/soldiers freak out at the ineffectiveness of their weapons but continue firing [[HeroicSacrifice to draw the monster's attention towards them and help civilians escape.]]
** TheTeamNormal gets very, ''[[RageBreakingPoint very]]'' upset after TheObiWan gives him the "[[WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures only magic can hurt magic]]" spiel for the billionth freaking time.
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** A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka, DepletedPhlebotinumShells and/or {{BFG}}s do.

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** A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka, DepletedPhlebotinumShells DepletedPhlebotinumShells, a MageMarksman, and/or {{BFG}}s do.
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** The monster regenerates afterwards. All you managed to do was kill a ProjectedAvatar. Magic is still needed to make it KilledOffForReal.

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** The monster regenerates afterwards. All you managed to do was kill a ProjectedAvatar.an [[FightingAShadow Avatar]]. Magic is still needed to make it KilledOffForReal.
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** The setting has characters far stronger and faster than reality, making melee weapons proportionately more potent, while guns remain the same as in real life.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': The ReactionShot of the monster being shot at with everything the army has it stopping its rampage to scratch at its skin like it was trying to deal with some very persistent fleas.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': The ReactionShot of the monster being shot at with everything the army has involves it stopping its rampage to scratch at its skin like it was trying to deal with some very persistent fleas.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': The ReactionShot of the monster being shot at with everything the army has it stopping its rampage to scratch at its skin like it was trying to deal with some very persistent fleas.
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** The monster's design (through whatever is the PhlebotinumDuJour of the tale) happened to give it (through EquivalentExchange) a WeaksauceWeakness to melee weapons.
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** Guns are powerful, accurate, and have a decent rate of fire... but Bob has no way to get ammunition, so they're TooAwesomeToUse.

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* '''Subverted''': A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka, DepletedPhlebotinumShells and/or {{BFG}}s do.
* '''Double Subverted''': The monster regenerates afterwards. All you managed to do was kill a ProjectedAvatar. Magic is still needed to make it KilledOffForReal.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka, DepletedPhlebotinumShells and/or {{BFG}}s do.
** The shooter is a complete amateur; in the hands of a professional, guns are very effective.
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The monster regenerates afterwards. All you managed to do was kill a ProjectedAvatar. Magic is still needed to make it KilledOffForReal.KilledOffForReal.
** But then the monster regenerates anyways.
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* '''Defied''': A gun manufacturer that is CrazyPrepared and caters to the same has [[{{BFG}} heavy firearms]] and DepletedPhlebotinumShells that ''will'' take a monster allegedly immune to bullets down.

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* '''Defied''': A gun manufacturer that is CrazyPrepared and caters to the same has [[{{BFG}} specialized heavy firearms]] and DepletedPhlebotinumShells that ''will'' take a monster allegedly immune to bullets ImmuneToBullets down.
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* '''Defied''': ???

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* '''Defied''': ???A gun manufacturer that is CrazyPrepared and caters to the same has [[{{BFG}} heavy firearms]] and DepletedPhlebotinumShells that ''will'' take a monster allegedly immune to bullets down.
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* '''Invoked''': ???

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* '''Invoked''': ???The EvilSorcerer casts a spell that makes his monsters ImmuneToBullets.



* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos. The story explores how the world reacts to the emergence of both them and those who can successfully fight the monsters.

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* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos. The story explores how the world reacts to the emergence of both them said monsters and those who can successfully fight the monsters.
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** Guns are powerful but have low rate of fire. You can fire at best a handful of shots before the mob of enemy melee fighters can reach you.

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** Guns are powerful but have low rate of fire. You Not a problem if you're a sniper with a good vantage point, but on a level field you can only fire at best a handful of shots before the mob of enemy melee fighters can reach you.
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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a gigantic shell fired by a battleship cannon, but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs and pebbles.

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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a gigantic shell fired by a battleship cannon, but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs twigs, pebbles and pebbles.little cantrips any newbie mage can pull off.

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* '''Downplayed''': Guns, while powerful, are inaccurate. Only Bob knows how to aim and shoot properly to kill enemies.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Guns, while powerful, are inaccurate. Only Bob knows how to aim and shoot properly to kill enemies.enemies.
** Guns are powerful but have low rate of fire. You can fire at best a handful of shots before the mob of enemy melee fighters can reach you.
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** The work is set in a future where ranged weapon technology has reached its peak and can't get any better, while defenses continue to improve.

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** The work is set in a future where ranged weapon technology has reached its peak and can't get any better, while defenses continue to improve. Methods that melee weapons use to defeat armour, like HotBlade or {{Vibroweapon}}, don't work with projectiles.
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** The work is set in a future where ranged weapon technology has reached its peak and can't get any better, while defenses continue to improve.

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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a nuke but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs and pebbles.
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a nuke gigantic shell fired by a battleship cannon, but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs and pebbles.
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
pebbles.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Played For Laughs''': ???



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%%* '''Implied''': ???
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
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* '''Double Subverted''': The monster regenerates afterwards.

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* '''Double Subverted''': The monster regenerates afterwards. All you managed to do was kill a ProjectedAvatar. Magic is still needed to make it KilledOffForReal.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Guns are effective in open spaces, but really hard to use in enclosed ones. Guns are less devastating than close combat, until someone brings the BFG... That can only used from prone position, meaning the wielder is defenseless against any close combat enemy whom would sneak up on him. Also, guns are worthless for stealth operations. Unless someone brings a suppressor ans specialized ammo... Meaning the gun's firepower just got downgraded.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Guns are effective in open spaces, but really hard to use in enclosed ones. Guns are less devastating than close combat, combatants with SuperStrength, until someone brings the BFG... That can only used from prone position, meaning the wielder is defenseless against any close combat enemy whom would sneak who sneaks up on him. Also, guns are worthless for stealth operations. Unless someone brings a suppressor ans and specialized ammo... Meaning the gun's firepower just got downgraded.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Guns are effective in open spaces, but really hard to use in enclosed ones. Guns are less devastating than close combat, until someone brings the BFG... That can only used from prone position, meaning the wielder is defenseless against any close combat enemy whom would sneak up on him. Also, guns are worthless for stealth operations. Unless someone brings a suppressor ans specialized ammo... Meaning the gun's firepower just got downgraded.
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* '''Subverted''': A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka and/or {{BFG}}s do.

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* '''Subverted''': A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka MoreDakka, DepletedPhlebotinumShells and/or {{BFG}}s do.
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* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos and the story explores how the world reacts to the emergence of both them and those who can successfully fight the monsters.

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* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos and the chaos. The story explores how the world reacts to the emergence of both them and those who can successfully fight the monsters.
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* '''Downplayed''': Guns, while powerful, are inaccurate. Only Bob knows how to aim and shoot properly to kill enemies.
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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a nuke but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs.

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* '''Parodied''': The monster laughs off a nuke but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs.twigs and pebbles.



* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos.

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* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos.chaos and the story explores how the world reacts to the emergence of both them and those who can successfully fight the monsters.

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* '''Justified''': The monster is ImmuneToBullets.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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The monster is ImmuneToBullets.
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* '''Straight''': The monster shrugs off handguns and rifles.
* '''Exaggerated''': The monster shrugs off tank rounds and anti-tank missiles.

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* '''Straight''': The monster shrugs off handguns and rifles.
rifles but dies when a mage fireballs it.
* '''Exaggerated''': The monster shrugs off tank rounds and anti-tank missiles.missiles but can be clobbered to death by maces.



* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???The monster laughs off a nuke but crumbles into dust when it gets pummeled by twigs.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The monster shrugs off tank rounds.

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* '''Exaggerated''': The monster shrugs off tank rounds.rounds and anti-tank missiles.



** The monster explicitly can only be defeated by magic.

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** The monster has some defence against mundane weapons and explicitly can only be defeated by magic.



* '''Enforced''': ???

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* '''Enforced''': ???MugglesDoItBetter is a PetPeeveTrope for the author, but he doesn't want to hand an IdiotBall to the conventional military either. Therefore, he has to come up with reasons why they can't just gun the monsters down.
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'''Basic Trope''': Guns aren't much good in this work.
* '''Straight''': The monster shrugs off handguns and rifles.
* '''Exaggerated''': The monster shrugs off tank rounds.
* '''Justified''': The monster is ImmuneToBullets.
** The monster explicitly can only be defeated by magic.
** The work is set in early/pre-Renaissance period where guns really aren't much good.
* '''Inverted''': Monster with ridiculously strong AntiMagic that also resists any number of melee weapons gets gunned down by a squad of riflemen without much fuss.
* '''Subverted''': A few shots with a standard gun don't do the trick... but MoreDakka and/or {{BFG}}s do.
* '''Double Subverted''': The monster regenerates afterwards.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': The monster dies to guns as easily as to melee or magic.
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': "Our guns aren't doing anything! Where's the damn mage?!"
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': "Why do guns never work against monsters in these films?"
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': The appearance of monsters that shrug off guns sends the conventional military into chaos.
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