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** Someone outright tells Alice to destroy the town, and then calls her out for doing so, despite the fact that they told her to do it.
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** Someone Bob outright tells Alice to destroy the town, and then calls her out for doing so, despite the fact that they he told her to do it.
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* '''Exaggerated''': You have to start a thermonuclear war to get past one segment of the game, and commit numerous war crimes. The game tells you that you would like to actually be in control of something like this, wouldn't you?
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** You have to start a thermonuclear war to get past one segment of the game, and commit numerous war crimes. The game tells you that you would like to actually be in control of something like this, wouldn'tyou?you?
** Someone outright tells Alice to destroy the town, and then calls her out for doing so, despite the fact that they told her to do it.
** You have to start a thermonuclear war to get past one segment of the game, and commit numerous war crimes. The game tells you that you would like to actually be in control of something like this, wouldn't
** Someone outright tells Alice to destroy the town, and then calls her out for doing so, despite the fact that they told her to do it.
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* '''Justified''': TheManBehindTheMan is trying to guilt-trip Alice while also getting her to do all the dirty work.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** TheManBehindTheMan is trying to guilt-trip Alice while also getting her to do all the dirtywork.work.
** Alice is a VillainProtagonist, so even if ''the player'' doesn’t want to detonate the explosion, the other characters think ''Alice'' wanted to.
** TheManBehindTheMan is trying to guilt-trip Alice while also getting her to do all the dirty
** Alice is a VillainProtagonist, so even if ''the player'' doesn’t want to detonate the explosion, the other characters think ''Alice'' wanted to.
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** The first time the game blames you for murdering Bob to obtain the spellbook. However on NewGamePlus you can bypass Bob. Evulz will attempt to [[NotSoDifferent compare your philosophy to his about the ends and the means.]] Repeat the game exactly as before and he will scold you for your blind obedience. [[TakeAThirdOption Defy the railroading on the first play-through by cheating or hacking]] however and everyone [[NoFairCheating will be legitimately terrified of Alice]] as an EldritchAbomination turning reality into her plaything.
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** The first time the game blames you for murdering Bob to obtain the spellbook. However on NewGamePlus you can bypass Bob. Evulz will attempt to [[NotSoDifferent [[NotSoDifferentRemark compare your philosophy to his about the ends and the means.]] Repeat the game exactly as before and he will scold you for your blind obedience. [[TakeAThirdOption Defy the railroading on the first play-through by cheating or hacking]] however and everyone [[NoFairCheating will be legitimately terrified of Alice]] as an EldritchAbomination turning reality into her plaything.
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** You are played off as a [[HearingVoices voice in Alice's head.]]
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* '''Double Subverted''':
** You, however, can, for [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration assisting her the whole way.]]
** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.
** You, however, can, for [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration assisting her the whole way.]]
** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.
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* '''Double Subverted''':
**Subverted''': You, however, can, for [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration assisting her the whole way.]]
** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.]]
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** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz "to determine your mental and emotional health." The quiz is filled with minor yet accusative questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
** '''Played For Drama''': [[ShellShockedVeteran Alice]] being blamed constantly is a symptom of survivor's guilt and an anxiety disorder after a traumatic event. She was given legitimate orders to launch ordinance which had an undetectable without factory disassembly defect and killed Bob. [[DrivenToSuicide Despite being physically unharmed it looks like she may not make it.]]
** '''Played For Drama''': [[ShellShockedVeteran Alice]] being blamed constantly is a symptom of survivor's guilt and an anxiety disorder after a traumatic event. She was given legitimate orders to launch ordinance which had an undetectable without factory disassembly defect and killed Bob. [[DrivenToSuicide Despite being physically unharmed it looks like she may not make it.]]
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* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz built "to determine your mental and emotional health." The quiz precisely what is filled wrong with minor yet accusative you", and includes such questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
** * '''Played For Drama''': [[ShellShockedVeteran Alice]] being blamed constantly is a symptom of survivor's guilt and an anxiety disorder after a traumatic event. She was given legitimate orders to launch ordinance which had an undetectable without factory disassembly defect and killed Bob. [[DrivenToSuicide Despite being physically unharmed it looks like she may not make it.]]
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** You are railroaded into benign and mundane actions. The narrator [[InformedWrongness goes off on a rant about how morally wrong it was]] using InsaneTrollLogic. It ends with the narrator being replaced with a new sane one who promptly apologizes for their predecessor's nervous breakdown.
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** '''Played For Drama''': [[ShellShockedVeteran Alice]] being blamed constantly is a symptom of survivor's guilt and an anxiety disorder after a traumatic event. She was given legitimate orders to launch ordinance which had an undetectable without factory disassembly defect and killed Bob. [[DrivenToSuicide Despite being physically unharmed it looks like she may not make it.]]
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* '''Defied''': Just before Alice activates the explosive, she realizes that she doesn't know where Evulz really is, and tries to find a way out of the town.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Just before Alice activates the explosive, she realizes that she doesn't know where Evulz really is, and tries to find a way out of thetown.town.
** After the fact, townspeople try to berate Alice, but she tells them where to shove it and makes it clear she was left with no viable alternative.
** Just before Alice activates the explosive, she realizes that she doesn't know where Evulz really is, and tries to find a way out of the
** After the fact, townspeople try to berate Alice, but she tells them where to shove it and makes it clear she was left with no viable alternative.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz with similarly minor yet accusative questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
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* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz "to determine your mental and emotional health." The quiz is filled with similarly minor yet accusative questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
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--> '''GameOver screen:''' You have no taste! [[SelfDeprecation Of all the satirical indie games you could have downloaded, why this one?]]
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** The entire game is just Alice committing horrible atrocities with zero context, and at the end you're blamed for... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking continuing to play a crappy video game.]]
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** The entire game is just you making Alice committing commit horrible atrocities with zero context, and at the end you're blamed for... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking continuing to play a crappy video game.]]
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** The "game" is a Flash animation where Alice runs around killing random people, while a narrator asks you why you're commanding Alice to do all this.
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Returning to [[BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter the main page]] will end the lives of every other troper on the planet.
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Returning to [[BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter [[BlamedForBeingRailroaded the main page]] will end the lives of every other troper on the planet.
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'''Basic Trope''': WhatTheHellHero or WhatTheHellPlayer in response to something the game [[{{Railroading}} railroads]] you into doing.
* '''Straight''':
** The only way to get past an otherwise dead-end area is for your PlayerCharacter Alice to detonate a large-scale explosive, destroying a town that [[BigBad Evulz]] might be in. After doing so, she finds out that she did not kill Evulz, and everyone in the next areas treat Alice as a terrorist.
** Alice's reputation is ignored, but the game directly tells you how many people fell victim to your mindless genocide.
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to start a thermonuclear war to get past one segment of the game, and commit numerous war crimes. The game tells you that you would like to actually be in control of something like this, wouldn't you?
* '''Downplayed''':
** You have to shoot an otherwise innocent person and hide their body to get past one area. The game partially blames it on Alice, and partially blames it on the nature of society.
** Alice is hated for killing the absolutely vile mind controlling witch Carol since [[MoreThanMindControl her influence persists after her death]].
** The player is railroaded into doing terrible things as the AntiHero or VillainProtagonist Alice, but they're treated as "things Alice did because they're in-character for her" rather than "things the player did and should feel bad about".
** YouBastard
* '''Justified''': TheManBehindTheMan is trying to guilt-trip Alice while also getting her to do all the dirty work.
* '''Inverted''':
** Alice is railroaded into killing a StrawCharacter, and suddenly her reputation is greatly improved and/or the game starts acting nicer towards you.
** If you go off the deep end of VideoGameCrueltyPotential of your own accord, the game pretends that it railroaded you into doing so and apologizes.
* '''Subverted''':
** Alice is mentally unstable, and can't be truly blamed for what she's done.
** You are played off as a [[HearingVoices voice in Alice's head.]]
** There actually ''is'' [[TakeAThirdOption another way out of the situation]] -- it just isn't explicitly pointed out by the UI and requires [[UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay unusually realistic thinking]]. (And/or is [[GuideDangIt really obtuse]].)
* '''Double Subverted''':
** You, however, can, for [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration assisting her the whole way.]]
** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.
* '''Parodied''':
** The game begins with a tutorial asking you to left-click to have your character Alice [[MoralEventHorizon shoot an innocent orphaned child who is dying of cancer]], with a ButThouMust thrown in if you idle. Once you've done as the game asks, it lapses into a poorly-written AuthorFilibuster about how [[MurderSimulators video games are making us all susceptible to performing acts of violence and immorality on demand,]] at one point [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial claiming that there is no middleman whatsoever between the player and the gun.]]
** The entire game is just Alice committing horrible atrocities with zero context, and at the end you're blamed for... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking continuing to play a crappy video game.]]
--> '''GameOver screen:''' You have no taste! [[SelfDeprecation Of all the satirical indie games you could have downloaded, why this one?]]
** In the tutorial, you have Alice pick up a few coins and spend them on a potion. An AuthorAvatar then walks into the screen and claims that the coins you took were actually $5,000 stolen from a fund for reconstructing the local orphanage, the potion you spent them on is actually LSD, and just for playing the tutorial you've already been assigned a special spot in Hell. Nonetheless, the game continues, with Alice wondering [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment who that loud guy is and what he was rambling on about]].
* '''Zig Zagged''':
** Alice is legitimately insane, but the game's place on [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration the Sliding Scale of Player and Protagonist Integration]] keeps shifting around so it's uncertain as to whether or not you're the one to blame. Neither can [=NPCs=] make up their minds if she can be blamed; after all, she's lost her mind.
** The first time the game blames you for murdering Bob to obtain the spellbook. However on NewGamePlus you can bypass Bob. Evulz will attempt to [[NotSoDifferent compare your philosophy to his about the ends and the means.]] Repeat the game exactly as before and he will scold you for your blind obedience. [[TakeAThirdOption Defy the railroading on the first play-through by cheating or hacking]] however and everyone [[NoFairCheating will be legitimately terrified of Alice]] as an EldritchAbomination turning reality into her plaything.
* '''Averted''': There is no railroading present, and all immoral situations can be avoided.
* '''Enforced''':
** This is considered to be a necessary part of Alice performing a FaceHeelTurn.
** "GuiltBasedGaming is pretty popular. How about we force the player to do something terrible and then call 'em out on it?"
* '''Lampshaded''': "You killed them, you killed them all, YouMonster" "I literally had to, there was no way of getting past that town otherwise."
* '''Invoked''': As part of a CharacterFilibuster, Evulz will put you through a simulator that can only end this way, to demonstrate that [[NeverMyFault being a villain isn't his fault]].
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Just before Alice activates the explosive, she realizes that she doesn't know where Evulz really is, and tries to find a way out of the town.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': The AuthorAvatar keeps blaming you for worse and worse unavoidable things, until Alice realizes just who's putting you and her through all this and [[RageAgainstTheAuthor kills off the author.]]
* '''Intended Audience Reaction''': The person laying the blame is ''supposed'' to be seen as unreasonable.
* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz with similarly minor yet accusative questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
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* '''Straight''':
** The only way to get past an otherwise dead-end area is for your PlayerCharacter Alice to detonate a large-scale explosive, destroying a town that [[BigBad Evulz]] might be in. After doing so, she finds out that she did not kill Evulz, and everyone in the next areas treat Alice as a terrorist.
** Alice's reputation is ignored, but the game directly tells you how many people fell victim to your mindless genocide.
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to start a thermonuclear war to get past one segment of the game, and commit numerous war crimes. The game tells you that you would like to actually be in control of something like this, wouldn't you?
* '''Downplayed''':
** You have to shoot an otherwise innocent person and hide their body to get past one area. The game partially blames it on Alice, and partially blames it on the nature of society.
** Alice is hated for killing the absolutely vile mind controlling witch Carol since [[MoreThanMindControl her influence persists after her death]].
** The player is railroaded into doing terrible things as the AntiHero or VillainProtagonist Alice, but they're treated as "things Alice did because they're in-character for her" rather than "things the player did and should feel bad about".
** YouBastard
* '''Justified''': TheManBehindTheMan is trying to guilt-trip Alice while also getting her to do all the dirty work.
* '''Inverted''':
** Alice is railroaded into killing a StrawCharacter, and suddenly her reputation is greatly improved and/or the game starts acting nicer towards you.
** If you go off the deep end of VideoGameCrueltyPotential of your own accord, the game pretends that it railroaded you into doing so and apologizes.
* '''Subverted''':
** Alice is mentally unstable, and can't be truly blamed for what she's done.
** You are played off as a [[HearingVoices voice in Alice's head.]]
** There actually ''is'' [[TakeAThirdOption another way out of the situation]] -- it just isn't explicitly pointed out by the UI and requires [[UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay unusually realistic thinking]]. (And/or is [[GuideDangIt really obtuse]].)
* '''Double Subverted''':
** You, however, can, for [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration assisting her the whole way.]]
** You are a voice in Alice's head, alright; a secretly installed VoiceWithAnInternetConnection who was supposed to be helping Alice.
* '''Parodied''':
** The game begins with a tutorial asking you to left-click to have your character Alice [[MoralEventHorizon shoot an innocent orphaned child who is dying of cancer]], with a ButThouMust thrown in if you idle. Once you've done as the game asks, it lapses into a poorly-written AuthorFilibuster about how [[MurderSimulators video games are making us all susceptible to performing acts of violence and immorality on demand,]] at one point [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial claiming that there is no middleman whatsoever between the player and the gun.]]
** The entire game is just Alice committing horrible atrocities with zero context, and at the end you're blamed for... [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking continuing to play a crappy video game.]]
--> '''GameOver screen:''' You have no taste! [[SelfDeprecation Of all the satirical indie games you could have downloaded, why this one?]]
** In the tutorial, you have Alice pick up a few coins and spend them on a potion. An AuthorAvatar then walks into the screen and claims that the coins you took were actually $5,000 stolen from a fund for reconstructing the local orphanage, the potion you spent them on is actually LSD, and just for playing the tutorial you've already been assigned a special spot in Hell. Nonetheless, the game continues, with Alice wondering [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment who that loud guy is and what he was rambling on about]].
* '''Zig Zagged''':
** Alice is legitimately insane, but the game's place on [[PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration the Sliding Scale of Player and Protagonist Integration]] keeps shifting around so it's uncertain as to whether or not you're the one to blame. Neither can [=NPCs=] make up their minds if she can be blamed; after all, she's lost her mind.
** The first time the game blames you for murdering Bob to obtain the spellbook. However on NewGamePlus you can bypass Bob. Evulz will attempt to [[NotSoDifferent compare your philosophy to his about the ends and the means.]] Repeat the game exactly as before and he will scold you for your blind obedience. [[TakeAThirdOption Defy the railroading on the first play-through by cheating or hacking]] however and everyone [[NoFairCheating will be legitimately terrified of Alice]] as an EldritchAbomination turning reality into her plaything.
* '''Averted''': There is no railroading present, and all immoral situations can be avoided.
* '''Enforced''':
** This is considered to be a necessary part of Alice performing a FaceHeelTurn.
** "GuiltBasedGaming is pretty popular. How about we force the player to do something terrible and then call 'em out on it?"
* '''Lampshaded''': "You killed them, you killed them all, YouMonster" "I literally had to, there was no way of getting past that town otherwise."
* '''Invoked''': As part of a CharacterFilibuster, Evulz will put you through a simulator that can only end this way, to demonstrate that [[NeverMyFault being a villain isn't his fault]].
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Just before Alice activates the explosive, she realizes that she doesn't know where Evulz really is, and tries to find a way out of the town.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': The AuthorAvatar keeps blaming you for worse and worse unavoidable things, until Alice realizes just who's putting you and her through all this and [[RageAgainstTheAuthor kills off the author.]]
* '''Intended Audience Reaction''': The person laying the blame is ''supposed'' to be seen as unreasonable.
* '''Played For Laughs''': At one point in the game, Alice can not progress through an area unless she literally [[PokeThePoodle pokes a fluffy poodle with a stick]]. Everyone around her screams and runs in fear when she does this, and after the area is done, the game gives you a PlayerPersonalityQuiz with similarly minor yet accusative questions such as "do you wear socks with sandals?" and "do you eat pizza with ketchup?"
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