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Nope. The trope is called: \"A Pupil Of Mine Until He Turned To EVIL\" for a reason.


* '''Straight''':
** Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.

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'''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
Killfrenzy.



* '''Inverted''': Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.

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Both good-to-evil and evil-to-good examples are straight uses.


* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.

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Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.Killfrenzy.
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.



* '''Inverted''':
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
** Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.

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* '''Inverted''':
** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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'''Inverted''': Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.



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* '''Conversed''': "Former student! Dammit, I had ten bucks on [[LukeIAmYourFather Long Lost Son]]..."

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* '''Conversed''': "Former student! Dammit, I had ten bucks on [[LukeIAmYourFather Long Lost Son]]..."Why did Alex cross over to TheDarkSide?" "I'm sure they'll do an episode about that."

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Evil All Along disquifies someone for this trope.


** [[DeceptiveDisciple Alex was evil all along.]]



** Bob turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found about it]].

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** Bob appears to be benevolent but turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found about it]].



** It turns out he was once good. ...or that's what he told Bob.



** Alex framed Draco as an inflitrator so he would have an excuse to kill him. VictorGainsLosersPowers is in effect and he wanted Draco's skill and {{mana}} for himself.



* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice uncovers the secret of Bob's former pupil... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. But it's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! But perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them?

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice uncovers the secret of Bob's about his former pupil...pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. But it's It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! But Then again perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them?



Back to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil the main page]]. I taught him once, you know, until he turned to [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide the Dark Side]].

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Back to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil the main page]]. I taught him once, you know, until he turned to [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide the Dark Side]].TheDarkSide.
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* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. And That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.

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* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. And That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.



** Bob is a bit of a KnightTemplar, but the lengths Alex had to go to to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer a good bit of MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackandGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].

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** Bob is a bit of a KnightTemplar, but the lengths Alex had to go to to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer a good bit of MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackandGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].
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** Bob is a bit of a KnightTemplar, but the lengths Alex had to go to to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer a good bit of MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackandGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].

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*** And/Or Bob himself is evil.
*** And/Or Alice is evil, and Alex might be trying to save Bob.


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** Bob turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found about it]].
** The reason why Alex is considered evil is because he killed Draco, who used to be Bob's most brilliant pupil. However, as the story progresses, we discover that Draco was a double agent sent to infiltrate Bob's dojo and murder him when he least expected it. Alex found out about his plan, [[{{Superdickery}} and had to kill him in order to protect his master]].
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*** And/Or Bob himself is evil.
*** And/Or Alice is evil, and Alex might be trying to save Bob.
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Back to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil the main page]]. I taught him once, you know, until he turned to [[StarWars the Dark Side]].

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Back to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil the main page]]. I taught him once, you know, until he turned to [[StarWars [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide the Dark Side]].
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Back to APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil.

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Back to APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil.[[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil the main page]]. I taught him once, you know, until he turned to [[StarWars the Dark Side]].



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* '''Inverted''': Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.
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** Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.

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Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* ** Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.
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** Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.



** It turns out he was once good. ...or that's what he told Bob.

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** It turns out he was once good. ...or that's what he told Bob.



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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice uncovers the secret of Bob's former pupil... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. But it's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! But perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them?

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice uncovers the secret of Bob's former pupil... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. But it's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! But perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them? them?



* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed, emotionally devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.

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* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed, emotionally devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.



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* '''Parodied''': Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous can really be described as "evil"...]]

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* '''Parodied''': Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]
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## Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
## [[DeceptiveDisciple Alex was evil all along.]]
## Alex is a FakeDefector.

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## ** Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
## ** [[DeceptiveDisciple Alex was evil all along.]]
## ** Alex is a FakeDefector.



## ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
## It turns out he was once good.
## ...or that's what he told Bob. At some point, he started BecomingTheMask.

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## ...** ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
## ** It turns out he was once good.
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good. ...or that's what he told Bob.
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At some point, he started BecomingTheMask.



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* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed or emotionally devastated.

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* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed or killed, emotionally devastated.devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.
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* '''Enforced''': ???

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* '''Enforced''': ???The BigBad is meant as a ShadowArchetype to TheHero, and having them share a mentor shows their opposite reactions to the same upbringing.
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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- if any of Bob's pupils rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills them immediately]] on the basis that HeKnowsTooMuch.

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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- if any when a pupil of Bob's pupils tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills them him immediately]] on the basis that HeKnowsTooMuch.
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* '''Defied''': ???ResignationsNotAccepted -- if any of Bob's pupils rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills them immediately]] on the basis that HeKnowsTooMuch.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob and Alex's pre-battle banter plays on their old relationship:
-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist straight...\\
'''Alex:''' Shut up! You're not my teacher any more!\\
'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you writing lines. \\
'''Alex:''' Wh- You can't... Aaargh!
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* '''Subverted''': Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
** [[DeceptiveDisciple Alex was evil all along.]]
* '''Double Subverted''': ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
** It turns out he was once good.
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Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
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## Alex is a FakeDefector.
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because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
** ## It turns out he was once good.
## ...or that's what he told Bob. At some point, he started BecomingTheMask.
* '''Parodied''': ???
Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous can really be described as "evil"...]]
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
Alice uncovers the secret of Bob's former pupil... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. But it's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! But perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them?
* '''Averted''': ???Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with the other.



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"Ohhh, you guys have an Obi-Wan/Darth Vader thing goin' on? Well, I for one am much more invested in this conflict now that ItsPersonal."
* '''Invoked''': ???
The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed or emotionally devastated.
* '''Exploited''': ???Alex turned away from Bob of his own volition, but the bad guys picked him out because his connection to Bob could become useful.



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"And this year's Most Likely To Turn Evil And Become A Nemesis Feared All The More Because You Were Once A Friend goes to... Alex!"
* '''Conversed''': ???"Former student! Dammit, I had ten bucks on [[LukeIAmYourFather Long Lost Son]]..."
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's first pupil after only a day of learning the technique
* '''Downplayed''': Bob's first pupil only joins a rival team with Bob's teaching,said team is just TheRival and not necessarily evil

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's first pupil goes rogue after only a day of learning the technique
technique.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob's first pupil only joins a rival team with Bob's teaching,said teaching, said team is just TheRival and not necessarily evilevil.



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Bob's first pupil after only a day of learning the technique
* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob's first pupil only joins a rival team with Bob's teaching,said team is just TheRival and not necessarily evil



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* '''Parodied''': ???See Exaggerated
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'''Basic Trope''': A mentor's student pulls a FaceHeelTurn and becomes a formidable villain.
* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. And That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.
* '''Exaggerated''': ???
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''': Bob is the last Master of a DangerousForbiddenTechnique - forbidden because it can drive the weak-minded mad with power. For Killfrenzy, ItsPersonal, and for Bob, a new student needs to be around to keep Alex in check once Bob has died.
* '''Inverted''': Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Subverted''': Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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