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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} The Illusive Man, Harbinger]] and the Reaper Collective, [[Pantheon/BetrayalAndTreachery Ragyo Kiryuin]], [[Pantheon/CrueltyAndSadism Yuuki Terumi]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} [[Pantheon/MotivationsForEvil The Illusive Man, Man]], [[Pantheon/VillainousPowers Harbinger]] and the Reaper Collective, [[Pantheon/BetrayalAndTreachery Ragyo Kiryuin]], [[Pantheon/CrueltyAndSadism Yuuki Terumi]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} Vaas Montenegro]], [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} Hoyt Volker, Vic Vega]], [[Pantheon/RomanticOrientation Bambi "Buck" Hughes]], [[Pantheon/{{Otherness}} Mr. Scratch, Bloody Mary]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} Vaas Montenegro]], [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} [[Pantheon/VillainousAttitude Hoyt Volker, Volker]], [[Pantheon/AimAndSkill Vic Vega]], [[Pantheon/RomanticOrientation Bambi "Buck" Hughes]], [[Pantheon/{{Otherness}} Mr. Scratch, Bloody Mary]]
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* Complicated Relationships: '''[[Pantheon/GameMechanics Stanley]]'''
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* Followers: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]], [[Film/TheLovelyBones Susie Salmon]]
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* Followers: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]], [[Film/TheLovelyBones Susie Salmon]]Salmon]], [[WesternAnimation/TurningRed Meilin Lee]]
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* Enemies: Evil deities in the House of Pantheon/{{Crime}} [[Pantheon/VillainousRoles H.Y.D.R.A.]], the subhouse of Pantheon/TyrannicalFigures, [[Pantheon/VillainousArchetypes John Wick]]
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* Enemies: Evil deities in the House of Pantheon/{{Crime}} Pantheon/CrimeAndTransgressions [[Pantheon/VillainousRoles H.Y.D.R.A.]], the subhouse of Pantheon/TyrannicalFigures, [[Pantheon/VillainousArchetypes John Wick]]
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* Enemies: The House of Pantheon/{{Crime}}, especially Moriarty and [[Pantheon/CriminalActions Scott Shelby]], [[Pantheon/{{Students}} Libby Chessler and The Ashleys]]
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* Enemies: The House of Pantheon/{{Crime}}, Pantheon/CrimeAndTransgressions, especially Moriarty and [[Pantheon/CriminalActions Scott Shelby]], [[Pantheon/{{Students}} Libby Chessler and The Ashleys]]
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* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N18OdEMXyP0 Burn Notice Theme]]
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* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N18OdEMXyP0 Burn Notice Theme]] Notice]]
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** She also likes to play tricks towards [[Pantheon/{{Cultures}} Remy]] ([[NamesTheSame not to be confused with]] the aforementioned Remy the Rat) and [[Pantheon/{{Mammals}} Pepe Le Pew]], neither whom she got along with due to their [[FrenchJerk jerkish behavior]].
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** She also likes to play tricks towards [[Pantheon/{{Cultures}} Remy]] ([[NamesTheSame not (not to be confused with]] with the aforementioned Remy the Rat) and [[Pantheon/{{Mammals}} Pepe Le Pew]], neither whom she got along with due to their [[FrenchJerk jerkish behavior]].
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* Portfolio: [[{{Gamebooks}} Having plenty of choices]] with MultipleEndings, [[DownerEnding but none of them are good]] [[BittersweetEnding except one of them may be bittersweet]], being a CosmicPlaything, AmbiguousDisorder, [[TimeLoop Constantly starts over his path]], [[FlashSideways Depending on the choices, he will remember certain events on certain timeloops]]
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* Portfolio: [[{{Gamebooks}} Having plenty of choices]] with MultipleEndings, [[DownerEnding but none of them are good]] [[BittersweetEnding except one of them may be bittersweet]], being a CosmicPlaything, AmbiguousDisorder, [[TimeLoop Constantly starts over his path]], [[FlashSideways Depending on the choices, he will remember certain events on certain timeloops]]
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* Allies: [[Pantheon/InvestigativeWork Nick Fury, Solid Snake, Gracie Hart, Sterling Archer, Roger Thornhill, James]] [[Pantheon/LustfulActs Bond]], [[Pantheon/HeroicActions Kim]] [[Pantheon/SchoolActivities Possible]], [[Pantheon/SchoolActivities Austin Powers]], [[Pantheon/NonVehicularTravel Ethan Hunt]], [[Pantheon/TechnologicalExperts Aiden Pearce]], [[Pantheon/{{Language}} Louise Banks]], [[Pantheon/OtherWeaponTropes Ash Williams]]
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[[folder:Kaepora Gaebora]]
'''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Kaepora Gaebora]], God of [[ShallIRepeatThat Player-Agreed Expository Repetition]]''' (Rauru, Sage of Light, [[WebVideo/GameGrumps Spoiler Owl]])
[[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kaepora_gaebora_artwork_ocarina_of_time.png]]
[[caption-width-right:250:[[labelnote:As Rauru]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rauru_artwork.png[[/labelnote]]]]
* Demigod as an owl, Lesser God as a sage
* Symbol: The Hyrule Royal Seal
* Theme Song: [[https://youtu.be/Vdb5Rr8HXPU heard here]]
* Alignment: LawfulGood
* Portfolio: [[{{Animorphism}} Human Transformed into an Animal]], [[TheOwlKnowingOne Knowledgeable Owl]], [[AbnormalLimbRotationRange Rotational Owl Limbs]], MrExposition, [[ShallIRepeatThat Repeating Said Exposition When Prompted]], RepetitiveName
* Domains: Light, Wisdow, Exposition, Birds
* Allies: [[Pantheon/MultiWieldingWeapons Link]], [[Pantheon/{{Royalty}} Zelda]], [[Pantheon/CharacterReveals Navi]], [[Pantheon/AnalysisAndRecords Fi]], [[Pantheon/AnthropomorphicAnimals Medli]], [[Pantheon/MentalismOther The Wind Fish]], [[Pantheon/WeaponizedObjects Decidueye]], [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Odette, Chanticleer]], [[Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} Tobias]], [[Pantheon/{{Mammals}} Winnie The Pooh]].
** Fellow Sages: [[Pantheon/{{Characterization}} Impa]], [[Pantheon/{{Happiness}} Darunia]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Ruto]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Saria]].
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/EvilActions Ganondorf]], [[Pantheon/{{Headwear}} Majora]], [[Pantheon/InsaneBehavior Zant]], [[Pantheon/{{Demons}} Ghirahim]], [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} The Grand Duke of Owls]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfImmortality Clockwerk and Neyla]].
* Opposed by: [[Pantheon/MusicalCompositions Brentalfloss]], many gamer deities.
* The Sage of Light Rauru, also known by his animal alias "Kaepora Gaebora", is one of the Ancient Sages of Hyrule. After taking the shape of an owl and using his knowledge to assist [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] on his quest to defeat the King of Thieves Ganondorf Dragmire, Rauru was allowed a spot on the Pantheon, although he was only granted access through his owl form.
* Stationed at the very entrance of the Pantheon, Kaepora Gaebora was entrusted with an important mission from the commanding deities: to explain the workings of the Pantheon to newcomers and make sure that they understood ''everything''.
** Because of his long and tiresome explanations, most of the newcomers tend to doze off halfway through, which might cause them to accidentally accept his offer to repeat everything all over again after finishing. He is particularly unpopular with deities who have experienced Link's aforementioned quest through gameplay, such as Music/{{Brentalfloss}}
* Being a representative of Light, Kaepora is firmly opposed by the [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Grand Duke of Owls]], who hates the sun and all forms of light. Kaepora does not acknowledge the Duke's title, being only loyal to the royal family of Hyrule.
** Aware of the Duke's schemes, Kaepora has requested Link to teach [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Chanticleer]] how to sing the Sun's Song, a magical song that can turn night to day and vice-versa, which might come in handy in case the Grand Duke attempts anything.
** Kaepora is also keeping an eye on [[VideoGame/SlyCooper Clockwerk[=/=]Neyla[=/=]Clock-La]], being ready to warn Link of any suspicious behavior from the robotic owl (Clock-La appears to be interested in Link's equipment, the Master Sword in particular). Thankfully, the Hylian is experienced in dealing with {{Giant Flyer}}s, having slain a few of them in his many incarnations.
* Kaepora believes Decidueye can make an excellent hero of its own, and has put himself at its service in case the Arrow Quill Pokémon ever requires guidance.
* Kaepora has been trying in vain to convince Franchise/WinnieThePooh that he is not his owl friend from the Hundred Acre Wood. That silly old bear just doesn't learn.
* Also has a seat at the Subhouse of Pantheon/GameDesign.
* [[LetsPlay/{{Versus}} He's an owl.]]
* "Do you want to hear what I said again?"
-->'''''Yes ←'''''
-->''No''
* The Sage of Light Rauru, also known by his animal alias "Kaepora Gaebora", is one of the Ancient Sages of Hyrule. After taking the shape of an owl and using his knowledge to assist [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] on his quest to defeat the King of Thieves Ganondorf Dragmire, Rauru was allowed a spot on the Pantheon, although he was only granted access through his owl form.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Stationed at the very entrance of the Pantheon, Kaepora Gaebora was entrusted with an important mission from the commanding deities: to explain the workings of the Pantheon to newcomers and make sure that they understood ''everything''.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Because of his long and tiresome explanations, most of the newcomers tend to doze off halfway through, which might cause them to accidentally accept his offer to repeat everything all over again after finishing. He is particularly unpopular with deities who have experienced Link's aforementioned quest through gameplay, such as Music/{{Brentalfloss}}.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Being a representative of Light, Kaepora is firmly opposed by the [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Grand Duke of Owls]], who hates the sun and all forms of light. Kaepora does not acknowledge the Duke's title, being only loyal to the royal family of Hyrule.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Aware of the Duke's schemes, Kaepora has requested Link to teach [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Chanticleer]] how to sing the Sun's Song, a magical song that can turn night to day and vice-versa, which might come in handy in case the Grand Duke attempts anything.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora is also keeping an eye on [[VideoGame/SlyCooper Clockwerk[=/=]Neyla[=/=]Clock-La]], being ready to warn Link of any suspicious behavior from the robotic owl (Clock-La appears to be interested in Link's equipment, the Master Sword in particular). Thankfully, the Hylian is experienced in dealing with {{Giant Flyer}}s, having slain a few of them in his many incarnations.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora believes Decidueye can make an excellent hero of its own, and has put himself at its service in case the Arrow Quill Pokémon ever requires guidance.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora has been trying in vain to convince Franchise/WinnieThePooh that he is not his owl friend from the Hundred Acre Wood. That silly old bear just doesn't learn.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Also has a seat at the Subhouse of Pantheon/GameDesign.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* [[LetsPlay/{{Versus}} He's an owl.]]
* "Do you want to hear what I said again?"
-->''Yes''
-->'''''No ←'''''
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'''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Kaepora Gaebora]], God of [[ShallIRepeatThat Player-Agreed Expository Repetition]]''' (Rauru, Sage of Light, [[WebVideo/GameGrumps Spoiler Owl]])
[[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kaepora_gaebora_artwork_ocarina_of_time.png]]
[[caption-width-right:250:[[labelnote:As Rauru]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rauru_artwork.png[[/labelnote]]]]
* Demigod as an owl, Lesser God as a sage
* Symbol: The Hyrule Royal Seal
* Theme Song: [[https://youtu.be/Vdb5Rr8HXPU heard here]]
* Alignment: LawfulGood
* Portfolio: [[{{Animorphism}} Human Transformed into an Animal]], [[TheOwlKnowingOne Knowledgeable Owl]], [[AbnormalLimbRotationRange Rotational Owl Limbs]], MrExposition, [[ShallIRepeatThat Repeating Said Exposition When Prompted]], RepetitiveName
* Domains: Light, Wisdow, Exposition, Birds
* Allies: [[Pantheon/MultiWieldingWeapons Link]], [[Pantheon/{{Royalty}} Zelda]], [[Pantheon/CharacterReveals Navi]], [[Pantheon/AnalysisAndRecords Fi]], [[Pantheon/AnthropomorphicAnimals Medli]], [[Pantheon/MentalismOther The Wind Fish]], [[Pantheon/WeaponizedObjects Decidueye]], [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} Odette, Chanticleer]], [[Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} Tobias]], [[Pantheon/{{Mammals}} Winnie The Pooh]].
** Fellow Sages: [[Pantheon/{{Characterization}} Impa]], [[Pantheon/{{Happiness}} Darunia]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Ruto]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Saria]].
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/EvilActions Ganondorf]], [[Pantheon/{{Headwear}} Majora]], [[Pantheon/InsaneBehavior Zant]], [[Pantheon/{{Demons}} Ghirahim]], [[Pantheon/{{Birds}} The Grand Duke of Owls]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfImmortality Clockwerk and Neyla]].
* Opposed by: [[Pantheon/MusicalCompositions Brentalfloss]], many gamer deities.
* The Sage of Light Rauru, also known by his animal alias "Kaepora Gaebora", is one of the Ancient Sages of Hyrule. After taking the shape of an owl and using his knowledge to assist [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] on his quest to defeat the King of Thieves Ganondorf Dragmire, Rauru was allowed a spot on the Pantheon, although he was only granted access through his owl form.
* Stationed at the very entrance of the Pantheon, Kaepora Gaebora was entrusted with an important mission from the commanding deities: to explain the workings of the Pantheon to newcomers and make sure that they understood ''everything''.
** Because of his long and tiresome explanations, most of the newcomers tend to doze off halfway through, which might cause them to accidentally accept his offer to repeat everything all over again after finishing. He is particularly unpopular with deities who have experienced Link's aforementioned quest through gameplay, such as Music/{{Brentalfloss}}
* Being a representative of Light, Kaepora is firmly opposed by the [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Grand Duke of Owls]], who hates the sun and all forms of light. Kaepora does not acknowledge the Duke's title, being only loyal to the royal family of Hyrule.
** Aware of the Duke's schemes, Kaepora has requested Link to teach [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Chanticleer]] how to sing the Sun's Song, a magical song that can turn night to day and vice-versa, which might come in handy in case the Grand Duke attempts anything.
** Kaepora is also keeping an eye on [[VideoGame/SlyCooper Clockwerk[=/=]Neyla[=/=]Clock-La]], being ready to warn Link of any suspicious behavior from the robotic owl (Clock-La appears to be interested in Link's equipment, the Master Sword in particular). Thankfully, the Hylian is experienced in dealing with {{Giant Flyer}}s, having slain a few of them in his many incarnations.
* Kaepora believes Decidueye can make an excellent hero of its own, and has put himself at its service in case the Arrow Quill Pokémon ever requires guidance.
* Kaepora has been trying in vain to convince Franchise/WinnieThePooh that he is not his owl friend from the Hundred Acre Wood. That silly old bear just doesn't learn.
* Also has a seat at the Subhouse of Pantheon/GameDesign.
* [[LetsPlay/{{Versus}} He's an owl.]]
* "Do you want to hear what I said again?"
-->'''''Yes ←'''''
-->''No''
* The Sage of Light Rauru, also known by his animal alias "Kaepora Gaebora", is one of the Ancient Sages of Hyrule. After taking the shape of an owl and using his knowledge to assist [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] on his quest to defeat the King of Thieves Ganondorf Dragmire, Rauru was allowed a spot on the Pantheon, although he was only granted access through his owl form.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Stationed at the very entrance of the Pantheon, Kaepora Gaebora was entrusted with an important mission from the commanding deities: to explain the workings of the Pantheon to newcomers and make sure that they understood ''everything''.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Because of his long and tiresome explanations, most of the newcomers tend to doze off halfway through, which might cause them to accidentally accept his offer to repeat everything all over again after finishing. He is particularly unpopular with deities who have experienced Link's aforementioned quest through gameplay, such as Music/{{Brentalfloss}}.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Being a representative of Light, Kaepora is firmly opposed by the [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Grand Duke of Owls]], who hates the sun and all forms of light. Kaepora does not acknowledge the Duke's title, being only loyal to the royal family of Hyrule.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Aware of the Duke's schemes, Kaepora has requested Link to teach [[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Chanticleer]] how to sing the Sun's Song, a magical song that can turn night to day and vice-versa, which might come in handy in case the Grand Duke attempts anything.
** *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora is also keeping an eye on [[VideoGame/SlyCooper Clockwerk[=/=]Neyla[=/=]Clock-La]], being ready to warn Link of any suspicious behavior from the robotic owl (Clock-La appears to be interested in Link's equipment, the Master Sword in particular). Thankfully, the Hylian is experienced in dealing with {{Giant Flyer}}s, having slain a few of them in his many incarnations.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora believes Decidueye can make an excellent hero of its own, and has put himself at its service in case the Arrow Quill Pokémon ever requires guidance.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Kaepora has been trying in vain to convince Franchise/WinnieThePooh that he is not his owl friend from the Hundred Acre Wood. That silly old bear just doesn't learn.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* Also has a seat at the Subhouse of Pantheon/GameDesign.
* *''ButtonMashing Noises''* [[LetsPlay/{{Versus}} He's an owl.]]
* "Do you want to hear what I said again?"
-->''Yes''
-->'''''No ←'''''
[[/folder]]
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* Heralds: Fiona Glenanne, Sam Axe, and Jesse Porter (part of Team Westend), Madeline Westen (his mother), Nate Westen (his younger brother).
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* Heralds: Fiona Glenanne, Sam Axe, and Jesse Porter (part of Team Westend), Westen), Madeline Westen (his mother), Nate Westen (his younger brother).
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** From Spira: '''''[[Pantheon/{{Magic}} '''''[[Pantheon/SupportMagic Yuna]]''''', '''[[Pantheon/{{Accessories}} Lulu]]''', ''[[Pantheon/WritingTechniques Maechen]]''
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'''[[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Clopin Trouillefou]], God of [[AllKnowingSingingNarrator All-Knowing Singing Narrators]]'''
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* Pities: [[Pantheon/{{Memories}} Jason Bourne]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/PrideAndEgotism Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/{{Adaptations}} Kirito (Abridged)]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/PrideAndEgotism Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/{{Adaptations}} [[Pantheon/AdaptationalChanges Kirito (Abridged)]]
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** Warriors of [[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} Cosmos]]: [[Pantheon/HeroicRoles Warrior of Light]], [[Pantheon/MultiWieldingWeapons Firion]], [[Pantheon/GameDesign Cecil Harvey, Kain Highwind]], [[Pantheon/{{Profession}} Bartz Klauser]], [[Pantheon/{{Mothers}} Terra Branford]], [[Pantheon/{{Weapons}} Cloud Strife]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Tifa Lockhart]], [[Pantheon/OtherWeaponTropes Squall Leonhart]], [[Pantheon/{{Firearms}} Laguna Loire]], [[Pantheon/CombatOther Zidane Tribal]], [[Pantheon/{{Destinies}} Lightning Farron]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Noctis Lucis Caelum]]
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** Warriors of [[Pantheon/{{Heroes}} [[Pantheon/{{Heroism}} Cosmos]]: [[Pantheon/HeroicRoles Warrior of Light]], [[Pantheon/MultiWieldingWeapons Firion]], [[Pantheon/GameDesign Cecil Harvey, Kain Highwind]], [[Pantheon/{{Profession}} Bartz Klauser]], [[Pantheon/{{Mothers}} Terra Branford]], [[Pantheon/{{Weapons}} Cloud Strife]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Tifa Lockhart]], [[Pantheon/OtherWeaponTropes Squall Leonhart]], [[Pantheon/{{Firearms}} Laguna Loire]], [[Pantheon/CombatOther Zidane Tribal]], [[Pantheon/{{Destinies}} Lightning Farron]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Noctis Lucis Caelum]]
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* Very few could match the same narration Gillis has used to describe his life though he did hear one narrator who also had the same narrative themes displayed on their lives. He would soon visit a washed up apartment within the same Hall he resided in, the police detective known as Max Payne. When they met for the first time, the background went on a black and white tone, complete with apt descriptions of their meeting, filled with cigarettes, dirty lights and two figures sitting calmly on the room. One showed his gun and the other flinced but was otherwise unharmed, nor did a shot occur, only used to tell bits of his story. Finally done with their monologues, the two parted ways, though Max offered Gillis some protection in the case she intervenes, which he politely declined.
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/{{Adaptations}} Kirito (Abridged)]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} [[Pantheon/PrideAndEgotism Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/{{Adaptations}} Kirito (Abridged)]]
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** Other Final Fantasy Enemies: '''''[[Pantheon/ReligiousFigures Seymour Guado]]''''', '''''[[Pantheon/BossFights Yu Yevon]]''''', [[Pantheon/GeneticEngineering Profesor Hojo]], [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Caius Ballad]], [[Pantheon/{{Sinners}} Ardyn Izunia]], [[Pantheon/{{Movesets}} Malboro]], [[Pantheon/{{Enemies}} Tonberry]], [[Pantheon/OtherDimensions Shinryu]],
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** Other Final Fantasy Enemies: '''''[[Pantheon/ReligiousFigures Seymour Guado]]''''', '''''[[Pantheon/BossFights '''''[[Pantheon/BossFightsNToZ Yu Yevon]]''''', [[Pantheon/GeneticEngineering Profesor Hojo]], [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Caius Ballad]], [[Pantheon/{{Sinners}} Ardyn Izunia]], [[Pantheon/{{Movesets}} Malboro]], [[Pantheon/{{Enemies}} Tonberry]], [[Pantheon/OtherDimensions Shinryu]],
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'''[[Film/SunsetBoulevard Joseph C. "Joe" Gillis]], God of {{Posthumous Narrat|ion}}ors'''
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''You see, the body of a young man was found floating in the pool of her mansion - with two shots in his back and one in his stomach. Nobody important, really. Just a movie writer with a couple of 'B' pictures to his credit. The poor dope! He always wanted a pool. Well, in the end, he got himself a pool - only the price turned out to be a little high. Let's go back about six months and find the day when it all started.''\\\
'''[[Film/SunsetBoulevard Joseph C.
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* Portfolio: DeadpanSnarker, ForegoneConclusion, HowWeGotHere, LemonyNarrator, MostWritersAreWriters, OutGambitted, '''PosthumousNarration''', PrivateEyeMonologue, [[spoiler:[[RuleOfPool Death from being shot near a swimming pool]]]], WritersSuck
* Domains: Screenwriters (failed), Death, Narration
* High Priest: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]]
* Allies: [[Pantheon/WritingTechniques Barton Fink]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Marion Crane]], [[Pantheon/MurderAndAssassination Kenny McCormick]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Flynn Rider]]
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/TheatricConvention Sideshow Bob]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/TheatricPerformers Krusty the Clown]]
* Domains: Screenwriters (failed), Death, Narration
* High Priest: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]]
* Allies: [[Pantheon/WritingTechniques Barton Fink]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Marion Crane]], [[Pantheon/MurderAndAssassination Kenny McCormick]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Flynn Rider]]
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/TheatricConvention Sideshow Bob]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/TheatricPerformers Krusty the Clown]]
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* Portfolio: DeadpanSnarker, ForegoneConclusion, HowWeGotHere, LemonyNarrator, MostWritersAreWriters, OutGambitted, '''PosthumousNarration''', PrivateEyeMonologue, [[spoiler:[[RuleOfPool Death from being shot [[StarvingArtist A starving screenwriter]] [[WritersSuck placed with bad luck]], [[HorribleHollywood represents a hack writer]], [[RuleOfPool found dead near a swimming pool]]]], WritersSuck
pool]] [[ForegoneConclusion at the first scene]], [[HowWeGotHere narrates the beginning]] [[PosthumousCharacter to the end of his life]], [[DeadpanSnarker deadpan]], [[PrivateEyeMonologue descriptive]] [[LemonyNarrator and cynical in his narration]], [[CrapsackWorld has a pessismistic outlook of the world]], [[InsecureLoveInterest loves another woman]] [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim but breaks up to spare her]], [[OutGambitted outsmarted by Norma and Max]]
* Domains:Screenwriters (failed), (Failed) Screenwriters, Death, Narration
* High Priest: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]]
Narration, Pessimism, Posthumous Presence
* Allies:[[Pantheon/WritingTechniques Barton Fink]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Marion Crane]], [[Pantheon/MurderAndAssassination [[Pantheon/ComedyGenres Kenny McCormick]], [[Pantheon/OtherCriminals Flynn Rider]]
McCormick]]
*Enemies: [[Pantheon/TheatricConvention Sideshow Bob]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/TheatricPerformers Krusty the Clown]]Pitied by: [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} BoJack Horseman]], [[Pantheon/{{Reclusiveness}} Mimi Kirigoe]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Max Payne]]
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* High Priest: [[Film/AmericanBeauty Lester Burnham]]
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* Pitied by: [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Max Payne]]
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle Yakko, Wakko, and Dot Warner]], [[Pantheon/MusicalCompositions Alex DeLarge]]
* Complicated Relationship with: '''[[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle Norma Desmond]]'''
* Joe Gillis was a down-on-his-luck screenwriter who was hired by Norma Desmond to help her set up her movie comeba--er… [[InsistentTerminology “return.”]] Joe believed he can manipulate her, but soon finds out that he is wrong. His ambivalence about their relationship and her unwillingness to let go leads to a situation of violence, madness, and death.
** Joe found himself waking up in the Pantheon [[spoiler:after he was murdered by Norma at her swimming pool]]. When he asked why he was brought into the Pantheon, it was revealed that he was resurrected and given a position in the Pantheon due to him [[PosthumousNarration narrating the story that led him to his death]].
** He learned that Norma Desmond also ascended into the Pantheon as well, making him more cautious of her and because of that, he avoids visiting her temple. He also avoids going near any swimming pool [[spoiler:due to being murdered at one]].
* Both Marion Crane and Kenny [=McCormick=] visit his temple at times. Joe especially feels sorry for Marion as he discovered that both of them have had encounters with an insane person [[spoiler:and didn’t survive them]]. Max Payne also takes pity towards Joe upon hear about his story.
* He noticed that Flynn Rider did a similar narration, [[spoiler:though when he ''did'' die, [[DisneyDeath it didn’t take]]]]. The two are on good terms with each other.
* After his failed attempt at having a screenwriting career in Hollywood as well as having to deal with Norma, Joe has become increasingly wary of several actors that reside in the Pantheon. He doesn’t like Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality as well as Sideshow Bob.
** He is also annoyed with the Warner siblings due to their antics.
** Has felt very sorry for Rosemary Woodhouse upon learning that she was married to an actor and what he did to her.
* Has become good friends with Barton Fink, as both were struggling screenwriters with plenty of bad Hollywood experiences to share. Joe envies how Fink was successful as a playwright beforehand, and how his troubled script "only" got him traumatized and slightly insane instead of dead.
* He couldn’t stand seeing Alex [=DeLarge=] as he doesn’t like seeing him mocking his narration and his followers.
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle Yakko, Wakko, and Dot Warner]], [[Pantheon/MusicalCompositions Alex DeLarge]]
* Complicated Relationship with: '''[[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle Norma Desmond]]'''
* Joe Gillis was a down-on-his-luck screenwriter who was hired by Norma Desmond to help her set up her movie comeba--er… [[InsistentTerminology “return.”]] Joe believed he can manipulate her, but soon finds out that he is wrong. His ambivalence about their relationship and her unwillingness to let go leads to a situation of violence, madness, and death.
** Joe found himself waking up in the Pantheon [[spoiler:after he was murdered by Norma at her swimming pool]]. When he asked why he was brought into the Pantheon, it was revealed that he was resurrected and given a position in the Pantheon due to him [[PosthumousNarration narrating the story that led him to his death]].
** He learned that Norma Desmond also ascended into the Pantheon as well, making him more cautious of her and because of that, he avoids visiting her temple. He also avoids going near any swimming pool [[spoiler:due to being murdered at one]].
* Both Marion Crane and Kenny [=McCormick=] visit his temple at times. Joe especially feels sorry for Marion as he discovered that both of them have had encounters with an insane person [[spoiler:and didn’t survive them]]. Max Payne also takes pity towards Joe upon hear about his story.
* He noticed that Flynn Rider did a similar narration, [[spoiler:though when he ''did'' die, [[DisneyDeath it didn’t take]]]]. The two are on good terms with each other.
* After his failed attempt at having a screenwriting career in Hollywood as well as having to deal with Norma, Joe has become increasingly wary of several actors that reside in the Pantheon. He doesn’t like Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality as well as Sideshow Bob.
** He is also annoyed with the Warner siblings due to their antics.
** Has felt very sorry for Rosemary Woodhouse upon learning that she was married to an actor and what he did to her.
* Has become good friends with Barton Fink, as both were struggling screenwriters with plenty of bad Hollywood experiences to share. Joe envies how Fink was successful as a playwright beforehand, and how his troubled script "only" got him traumatized and slightly insane instead of dead.
* He couldn’t stand seeing Alex [=DeLarge=] as he doesn’t like seeing him mocking his narration and his followers.
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* Pitied by: [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Max Payne]]
Opposes: [[Pantheon/TheatricPerformers Krusty the Clown]], [[Pantheon/TheatricProduction the Tropic Thunder Production Staff]]
*Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle Yakko, Wakko, and Dot Warner]], [[Pantheon/MusicalCompositions Alex DeLarge]]
Enemies: [[Pantheon/TheatricConvention Sideshow Bob]], [[Pantheon/{{Fanbase}} Annie Wilkes]]
* Complicated Relationship with:'''[[Pantheon/TheatreAndSpectacle '''[[Pantheon/TheatricPerformers Norma Desmond]]'''
* Joe Gillis was a down-on-his-luck screenwriter who was struggling on his profession come the beginning of [[TheFifties 1950]]. While luck was not on his side, he met a certain gilded star by the name of Norma Desmond, hired byNorma Desmond her to help her set up her movie comeba--er… [[InsistentTerminology “return.”]] Joe believed he can manipulate her, setting in easy money for him, but soon finds out that he is wrong. At first she was cooperative, but the moment she kept giving him precious items without pay no less, his patience has slowly grown thin. Her script she gave to him was trashy and too long to even be considered for screenplay and soon, her clinginess would invade his personal life. His ambivalence about their relationship and her unwillingness to let go leads go, combined with her delusional visions of stardom, lead to a situation of violence, madness, and death.
**death, hence his narration to the fateful day of his life.
* At first, Joe found himself waking up in the Pantheon[[spoiler:after after he was murdered by Norma at her swimming pool]]. When he pool. Such event brought him confusion and so asked some of the higher ups on why he was brought into the Pantheon, Pantheon. They responded how his narration shed light to his murder as well as highlighting the crazed star's descend to madness. A few found it intriguing how the events played out and was revealed ever more curious of the star herself, a wish that he was resurrected and given a position in would soon come to reality past Joe's ascension.
* Being alone has made him relaxed on the first few days of the Pantheon after being granted godhood but such days would not last. On the House of Theatre and Spectacle, a large crowd gathered up on the entrance with what seems to be a glamorous-looking figure walking on the hallways. A few of the deities recognized the figure and decided to inform Joe of the situation, coming to his senses that the crazed star herself, Norma Desmond, arrived shortly in the Pantheon, as if his misery would not end. That was not all, upon her ascension, she was informed of Joe's early presence, which sparked her desire for her "return" once more. Yet even in a plane away from the greedy Hollywood studios, the intention to work together was not well-received, as he has fears that with the rising presence of other actors and stars will result to Norma's delusions and jealousy kicking in once again. God-forbid that his death will be repeated ad-nauseam.
* Gloominess surrounds Gillis' mind, mainly thanks to a downward spiral of a career he had as a screenwriter. His opinion in the Pantheon, past Norma's presence, remains the same, especially with the new form of superstars and actors of various kinds. All things considered, he has a rather sour opinion for most of the part, afterall, being killed by one vicious superstar has ruined the image for him, especially if any sociopathic ones appear just around the corner, and sadly for him, sociopaths come in all shapes and sizes past the blissful image of Hollywood. Case in point, Sideshow Bob, who also has links to being an actor and a murderous psycho.
** Following the discovery of Bob, he would soon call out Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality, though not without the same response being called out by Krusty towards him for being equally pessimistic as well. Unhelped by the fact that duo are generally viewed with disdain on their profession with Krusty often being a sellout and Joe being called a hack due tohim [[PosthumousNarration narrating his past pictures and the story fact that led most of his pitches have been worn out following the change of the genre of Film Noir. He accepts this criticism as he admits this is a part of his fault and tries to make up for it, were it not for a certain actress' desperation that ended his career.
** He also has been attempting to meet other actors in the hopes of using their stories for his pitches, though some called this to be rather cheap of him. Trips from the House of Theatre and Spectacle exposed him to various actors and actresses he had never seen. Non-human like [=BoJack=] Horseman to even the rather disturbing ones like Mima Kirigoe, both of which have come to pity and resent towards him for some of hisdeath]].
** He learned that Norma Desmond also ascended intorevelations. The former has seen his attempts of reclaiming his fame and saw it to be depressing as a victim of the Pantheon as well, making chase he has done, while the latter has somewhat feared him more cautious of her and mainly because of that, he avoids visiting her temple. He also avoids going near any swimming pool [[spoiler:due to being his fate. Norma's treatment of other actresses as rivals only exasperated things between him and Mimi and have rarely interacted under the fear that both could get murdered on the spot.
* Speaking of rather unstable members of Hollywood, a production staff that was known for the film called ''Film/TropicThunder'' was seen by Joe and to put it mildly, he was very uncomfortable with the group. Beyond the group's insane attitude of its members, the events that ''actually'' played out in the production of the film has him filled with questions and doubt, as they could have gotten themselves killed on the spot (though one of their members died firsthand to an actual mine no less), all that for a chance of an Academy Award. Out of the members, he has the largest disdain to Les Grossman who goes all the way to make a success even atone]].
the risk of the actors' lives, which is a director version to an experience he already felt.
*Both Often visited by similar victims of psychos, he is not alone in regards to such, shown when both Marion Crane and Kenny [=McCormick=] visit have become common visitors to him. Kenny's silence kind of irks him while Marion has been pitied by him due to her unforeseen fate with Norman Bates, who is arguably worse than Norma. The meetings with the two have sparked some interest to him if there have been other killed victims past them. Ironic since he did claim that psychopaths sell like hotcakes to the common media, and became a victim of one instead.
** Soon, a feeling of wariness loomed over Joe's temple as he felt like as he was being watched, not by Norma but by someone perhaps far worse. His fears came true when a woman carrying a knife was suddenly found in his room, threatening to kill him. He would soon wake up revived in another House and as soon as he went back, he found his templeat times. Joe especially feels sorry for Marion as he discovered that both of them have had encounters with an insane person [[spoiler:and didn’t survive them]]. Max Payne also takes pity towards Joe upon hear about his story.
* He noticed that Flynn Rider did a similar narration, [[spoiler:though when he ''did'' die, [[DisneyDeath it didn’t take]]]]. The two are on good terms with each other.
* After his failed attempt at having a screenwriting career in Hollywood as well as having to deal with Norma, Joe has become increasingly wary of several actors that reside in the Pantheon. He doesn’t like Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality as well as Sideshow Bob.
** He is also annoyedexamined by police with the Warner siblings due to their antics.
** Has felt very sorrywoman he saw in custody. That was when an officer told him of the menace known as Annie Wilkes, who is notorious for kidnapping an author to change an ending [[Literature/{{Misery}} of a certain novel]]. His response was that of a desperate sigh, seeing that there are more mad people around the Pantheon as if his ascension was bad enough.
** A third visitor came, this time a mother with a child. Rosemary Woodhouseupon learning that she was married told to an actor and what he did to her.
* Has become good friends with Barton Fink, as both were struggling screenwriters with plenty of bad Hollywoodcontact Joe Gillis about her experiences to share. Joe envies how Fink with an actor, although this was successful as a playwright beforehand, and how his troubled script "only" got him traumatized and slightly insane instead of dead.
*more on cult behavior than actual star-studded insanity. He couldn’t stand does understand her plight seeing Alex [=DeLarge=] what her married actor did to her. He has been warned about her situation being far more dire than his, as her child brought the attention of a cult willing to bring the Antichrist. Some suspect he doesn’t like seeing him mocking his narration and his followers.might use Rosemary's story for a movie pitch but he digresses.
* His temple has been expanded on the House of Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem, under Pantheon/AfterlifeEntities.
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* Complicated Relationship with:
* Joe Gillis was a down-on-his-luck screenwriter who was struggling on his profession come the beginning of [[TheFifties 1950]]. While luck was not on his side, he met a certain gilded star by the name of Norma Desmond, hired by
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* At first, Joe found himself waking up in the Pantheon
* Being alone has made him relaxed on the first few days of the Pantheon after being granted godhood but such days would not last. On the House of Theatre and Spectacle, a large crowd gathered up on the entrance with what seems to be a glamorous-looking figure walking on the hallways. A few of the deities recognized the figure and decided to inform Joe of the situation, coming to his senses that the crazed star herself, Norma Desmond, arrived shortly in the Pantheon, as if his misery would not end. That was not all, upon her ascension, she was informed of Joe's early presence, which sparked her desire for her "return" once more. Yet even in a plane away from the greedy Hollywood studios, the intention to work together was not well-received, as he has fears that with the rising presence of other actors and stars will result to Norma's delusions and jealousy kicking in once again. God-forbid that his death will be repeated ad-nauseam.
* Gloominess surrounds Gillis' mind, mainly thanks to a downward spiral of a career he had as a screenwriter. His opinion in the Pantheon, past Norma's presence, remains the same, especially with the new form of superstars and actors of various kinds. All things considered, he has a rather sour opinion for most of the part, afterall, being killed by one vicious superstar has ruined the image for him, especially if any sociopathic ones appear just around the corner, and sadly for him, sociopaths come in all shapes and sizes past the blissful image of Hollywood. Case in point, Sideshow Bob, who also has links to being an actor and a murderous psycho.
** Following the discovery of Bob, he would soon call out Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality, though not without the same response being called out by Krusty towards him for being equally pessimistic as well. Unhelped by the fact that duo are generally viewed with disdain on their profession with Krusty often being a sellout and Joe being called a hack due to
** He also has been attempting to meet other actors in the hopes of using their stories for his pitches, though some called this to be rather cheap of him. Trips from the House of Theatre and Spectacle exposed him to various actors and actresses he had never seen. Non-human like [=BoJack=] Horseman to even the rather disturbing ones like Mima Kirigoe, both of which have come to pity and resent towards him for some of his
** He learned that Norma Desmond also ascended into
* Speaking of rather unstable members of Hollywood, a production staff that was known for the film called ''Film/TropicThunder'' was seen by Joe and to put it mildly, he was very uncomfortable with the group. Beyond the group's insane attitude of its members, the events that ''actually'' played out in the production of the film has him filled with questions and doubt, as they could have gotten themselves killed on the spot (though one of their members died firsthand to an actual mine no less), all that for a chance of an Academy Award. Out of the members, he has the largest disdain to Les Grossman who goes all the way to make a success even at
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** Soon, a feeling of wariness loomed over Joe's temple as he felt like as he was being watched, not by Norma but by someone perhaps far worse. His fears came true when a woman carrying a knife was suddenly found in his room, threatening to kill him. He would soon wake up revived in another House and as soon as he went back, he found his temple
* He noticed that Flynn Rider did a similar narration, [[spoiler:though when he ''did'' die, [[DisneyDeath it didn’t take]]]]. The two are on good terms with each other.
* After his failed attempt at having a screenwriting career in Hollywood as well as having to deal with Norma, Joe has become increasingly wary of several actors that reside in the Pantheon. He doesn’t like Krusty the Clown for his jaded personality as well as Sideshow Bob.
** He is also annoyed
** Has felt very sorry
** A third visitor came, this time a mother with a child. Rosemary Woodhouse
* Has become good friends with Barton Fink, as both were struggling screenwriters with plenty of bad Hollywood
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* His temple has been expanded on the House of Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem, under Pantheon/AfterlifeEntities.
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** The Warriors of [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Chaos]]: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Garland]], [[Pantheon/FantasticalLeadership Emperor Mateus]], [[Pantheon/{{Plants}} Exdeath]], [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} Kefka Palazzo]], [[Pantheon/{{Transformations}} Sephiroth]], [[Pantheon/CombatMagic Ultimecia]]
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** The Warriors of [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Chaos]]: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Garland]], [[Pantheon/FantasticalLeadership Emperor Mateus]], [[Pantheon/{{Plants}} Exdeath]], [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} [[Pantheon/CausesOfMadness Kefka Palazzo]], [[Pantheon/{{Transformations}} Sephiroth]], [[Pantheon/CombatMagic Ultimecia]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} The Illusive Man, Harbinger]] and the Reaper Collective, [[Pantheon/{{Betrayal}} Ragyo Kiryuin]], [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} Yuuki Terumi]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Villains}} The Illusive Man, Harbinger]] and the Reaper Collective, [[Pantheon/{{Betrayal}} [[Pantheon/BetrayalAndTreachery Ragyo Kiryuin]], [[Pantheon/{{Hatred}} [[Pantheon/CrueltyAndSadism Yuuki Terumi]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/AdaptationsAndContinuity Kirito (Abridged)]]
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* Enemies: [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Kamina]], Old Man Henderson, [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Captain Martin Walker]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Rika Furude]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfMedia Bob]], [[Pantheon/{{Pride}} Vegeta]], [[Pantheon/RevealsAndTwists Lemony Snicket]], [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes The Doki Doki Literature Club]], [[Pantheon/{{Storytelling}} ICEY]], [[Pantheon/{{Challenge}} Diogenes]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} The Mob]], [[Pantheon/AdaptationsAndContinuity Kirito (Abridged)]]
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* OddFriendship: [[Pantheon/{{Philosophy}} Monsoon]], [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} Koume Shirasaka]]
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* OddFriendship: [[Pantheon/{{Philosophy}} Monsoon]], [[Pantheon/{{Fear}} [[Pantheon/FearsomeArchetypes Koume Shirasaka]]
