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* ComicBook/{{Zatanna}} [[MindRape mind wiping]] Doctor Light to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood make him less dangerous]], and then mind wiping [[spoiler:ComicBook/{{Batman}}]], in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' has become this. It's got to the point that before the 2011 reboot that every single one of Zatanna's main appearances referenced her mind wiping. First issue of ''ComicBook/GothamCitySirens'' even had ComicBook/PoisonIvy call her "Miss Mindwipe." Zatanna will ONLY ever be known FOR the mind wipes.

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* ComicBook/{{Zatanna}} [[MindRape mind wiping]] Doctor Light to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood make him less dangerous]], and then mind wiping [[spoiler:ComicBook/{{Batman}}]], in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' ''ComicBook/{{Identity Crisis|2004}}'' has become this. It's got to the point that before the 2011 reboot that every single one of Zatanna's main appearances referenced her mind wiping. First issue of ''ComicBook/GothamCitySirens'' even had ComicBook/PoisonIvy call her "Miss Mindwipe." Zatanna will ONLY ever be known FOR the mind wipes.
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** [[spoiler: He lapsed back into addiction after his daughter was killed and he lost an arm.]] When people talk about Roy post-[[spoiler:Lian's death]] people always tend to mention how he [[spoiler:hallucinated a dead kitten was his daughter while on drugs]]. [[spoiler: However, this got retconned in ''ComicBook/GreenArrow2023'' so that he did actually see his daughter. The fact that he relapsed still remains though.))

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** [[spoiler: He lapsed back into addiction after his daughter was killed and he lost an arm.]] When people talk about Roy post-[[spoiler:Lian's death]] people always tend to mention how he [[spoiler:hallucinated a dead kitten was his daughter while on drugs]]. [[spoiler: However, this got retconned in ''ComicBook/GreenArrow2023'' so that he did actually see his daughter. The fact that he relapsed still remains though.))]]
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** [[spoiler: He lapsed back into addiction after his daughter was killed and he lost an arm.]] When people talk about Roy post-[[spoiler:Lian's death]] people always tend to mention how he [[spoiler:hallucinated a dead kitten was his daughter while on drugs]].

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** [[spoiler: He lapsed back into addiction after his daughter was killed and he lost an arm.]] When people talk about Roy post-[[spoiler:Lian's death]] people always tend to mention how he [[spoiler:hallucinated a dead kitten was his daughter while on drugs]]. [[spoiler: However, this got retconned in ''ComicBook/GreenArrow2023'' so that he did actually see his daughter. The fact that he relapsed still remains though.))

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* Superboy-Prime had become an immature whiny sociopath in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', but still had some motives that made him slip near WellIntentionedExtremist. But in ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'', he said one line, after which fans forgot about that and marked him as an complete idiot and nobody could treat him seriously after that. This line was:
-->'''Prime:''' ''I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU TO DEATH!''
** Considering it was in ''[[AudienceAlienatingEra Countdown]]'' it seems Superboy-Prime's unforgivable crime was being in ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Countdown]]''.
** That line aside, Superboy-Prime's dialog in the whole story makes him come as an immature nitwit, and his actions make it hard to view him as anything but a monster since after seeing a museum devoted to an AlternateUniverse Superman, [[MoralEventHorizon he loses his temper and murders that Superman]], [[FromBadToWorse his pregnant wife, the Earth's Justice League, and destroys the entire Earth.]] Really, that scene does a better job establishing as a whiny PsychopathicManchild than the above MemeticMutation.
* ComicBook/JimmyOlsen will ''never'' live down turning into the [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Giant_Turtle_Man_8340.jpg Giant Turtle Man]]. Out of all the things he's turned into, that seems to be the one people are most determined to remind him of.



* ComicBook/WonderGirl: It was difficult for Cassie Sandsmark to live down the period of volume 3 where Geoff Johns and every writer after seemed to turn her into an increasingly catty, abrasive and overbearing team member who was supposedly powerful and leader material, but condescending and demanding to her teammates and who took up screentime from other characters. Then there was the time that she and Supergirl hijacked that plane during "Amazons Attack" and kidnapped a president...

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* ComicBook/WonderGirl: It was difficult for Cassie Sandsmark to live down the period of volume 3 where Geoff Johns and every writer after seemed to turn her into an increasingly catty, abrasive and overbearing team member who was supposedly powerful and leader material, but condescending and demanding to her teammates and who took up screentime from other characters. Then there was the time that she and Supergirl hijacked that plane during "Amazons Attack" and kidnapped a president...



* ComicBook/LoisLane often gets mocked for being a supposedly brilliant journalist who can't tell that Clark Kent and Superman are one in the same. Leaving aside the two decades or so ComicBook/PostCrisis in which she was Clark's SecretKeeper, stories about Lois strongly suspecting (but being unable to ''prove'') the truth date all the way back to ''1942''. It doesn't help that [[Film/ManOfSteel any depiction]] where she knows right from the start ends up being the victim of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} is never going to live down [[BestialityIsDepraved dating her horse, Comet.]] Whether the constant ignorance of the fact that he was actually a sentient centaur-magically-turned-horse and he had become ''human'' when they ''actually'' dated is ignorance or just RuleOfFunny is unknown.
* Given all the jokes that both the Internet [[ComicBook/TinyTitans and DC themselves]] have been making about it, it's pretty obvious that {{Franchise/Superman}} isn't going to live down how [[ComicBook/New52 his more]] [[Film/ManOfSteel recent costumes]] lack his classic UnderwearOfPower.
* People will probably never forget the time that New 52 ComicBook/HarleyQuinn slaughtered hundreds of innocent adults and [[WouldHurtAChild children]] by having bombs hidden in handheld video game machines. It was [[CrossesTheLineTwice so deplorable]] and so beyond the lighter tone and characterisation of Harley's solo title that began soon afterwards, that it became FanonDiscontinuity almost immediately. However, it is still constantly brought up, right down to the story being included in the character's "best of" TPB in 2015.
* ComicBook/{{Zatanna}} [[MindRape mind wiping]] Doctor Light to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood make him less dangerous]], and then mind wiping [[spoiler:Franchise/{{Batman}}]], in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' has become this. It's got to the point that before the 2011 reboot that every single one of Zatanna's main appearances referenced her mind wiping. First issue of ''Comicbook/GothamCitySirens'' even had ComicBook/PoisonIvy call her "Miss Mindwipe." Zatanna will ONLY ever be known FOR the mind wipes.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'':
**
ComicBook/LoisLane often gets mocked for being a supposedly brilliant journalist who can't tell that Clark Kent and Superman are one in the same. Leaving aside the two decades or so ComicBook/PostCrisis in which she was became Clark's SecretKeeper, SecretKeeper in the 90's, stories about Lois strongly suspecting (but being unable to ''prove'') the truth date all the way back to ''1942''. It doesn't help ''1942''.
** ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': In 1962 storyline "ComicBook/TheSuperSteedOfSteel", Supergirl kisses rodeo star "Bronco" Bill once, completely unaware
that [[Film/ManOfSteel any depiction]] where she knows right from the start ends up being the victim of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}
man is her sidekick Comet (a centaur who had been turned into a horse by an evil wizard). Kara never going to live down [[BestialityIsDepraved dating discovered Bill's true identity, and Comet's unrequited crush on her horse, Comet.]] Whether the constant ignorance of the fact was dropped after that he was actually a sentient centaur-magically-turned-horse story and never brought up again...except for comic fans, who still joke about Silver Age Supergirl "dating" a "horse" many decades after the fact.
** No matter what she does, ComicBook/PowerGirl will always be mostly known as the patron saint of giant boobs.
** No matter how
he might top himself in pure despicableness, ComicBook/LexLuthor is best known among geeks for stealing 40 cakes, even though it happened in ''Literature/TheSuperDictionary'' (a non-canon children book).
** Superboy-Prime
had become ''human'' when they ''actually'' dated is ignorance or just RuleOfFunny is unknown.
* Given all the jokes
an immature whiny sociopath in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', but still had some motives that both the Internet [[ComicBook/TinyTitans and DC themselves]] have been making made him slip near WellIntentionedExtremist. But in ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'', he said one line, after which fans forgot about it, it's pretty obvious that {{Franchise/Superman}} isn't going to and marked him as an complete idiot and nobody could treat him seriously after that. This line was:
--->'''Prime:''' ''I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU TO DEATH!''
** ComicBook/JimmyOlsen will ''never''
live down how [[ComicBook/New52 his more]] [[Film/ManOfSteel recent costumes]] lack his classic UnderwearOfPower.
turning into the [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Giant_Turtle_Man_8340.jpg Giant Turtle Man]] in ''ComicBook/SupermansPalJimmyOlsen'' #53. Out of all the things he's turned into, that seems to be the one people are most determined to remind him of.
* People will probably never forget the time that New 52 ComicBook/HarleyQuinn slaughtered hundreds of innocent adults and [[WouldHurtAChild children]] children by having bombs hidden in handheld video game machines. It was [[CrossesTheLineTwice so deplorable]] deplorable and so beyond the lighter tone and characterisation of Harley's solo title that began soon afterwards, that it became FanonDiscontinuity almost immediately. However, it is still constantly brought up, right down to the story being included in the character's "best of" TPB in 2015.
* ComicBook/{{Zatanna}} [[MindRape mind wiping]] Doctor Light to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood make him less dangerous]], and then mind wiping [[spoiler:Franchise/{{Batman}}]], [[spoiler:ComicBook/{{Batman}}]], in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' has become this. It's got to the point that before the 2011 reboot that every single one of Zatanna's main appearances referenced her mind wiping. First issue of ''Comicbook/GothamCitySirens'' ''ComicBook/GothamCitySirens'' even had ComicBook/PoisonIvy call her "Miss Mindwipe." Zatanna will ONLY ever be known FOR the mind wipes.



* No matter what she does, or how well a character she's written, ComicBook/PowerGirl will always be mostly known as the patron saint of giant boobs.
* No matter how he might top himself in pure despicableness, ComicBook/LexLuthor is best known among geeks for stealing 40 cakes--that's as many as four tens!--in an incident that would become the {{Trope Namer|s}} for AndThatsTerrible.
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Crosswicking.


* While DC has made a huge amount of effort to change the public perception of ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} after ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'', which has been fairly successful, there will still never be a shortage of jokes about him being "[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway the useless one who talks to fish]]".

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* While DC has made a huge amount of effort to change the public perception of ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} after ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'', which has been fairly successful, there will still never be a shortage of jokes about him being "[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway the useless one who talks to fish]]".fish]]".
* The fact Jason Todd [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily died]] tends to be the one thing casual fans knew about him. Making it worse is that until about the time of DC's New 52, even the writers seem to blame Jason for his death, with characters saying he "failed" or brought his death on himself. What actually happened is that Jason, a teenager with abandonment issues, tried to find his biological mother who immediately sells him out to the Joker.
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Gag Boobs has been renamed to Boob Based Gag. Changing to the proper trope where appropriate and cutting misuse.


* No matter what she does, or how well a character she's written, ComicBook/PowerGirl will always be mostly known as the patron saint of GagBoobs.

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* No matter what she does, or how well a character she's written, ComicBook/PowerGirl will always be mostly known as the patron saint of GagBoobs.giant boobs.
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* [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica The JSA]] will likely never escape jokes about how how their first female member, Franchise/WonderWoman, was relegated to the role of their secretary.

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* [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica The JSA]] will likely never escape jokes about how how their first female member, Franchise/WonderWoman, was relegated to the role of their secretary.secretary.
* While DC has made a huge amount of effort to change the public perception of ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} after ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'', which has been fairly successful, there will still never be a shortage of jokes about him being "[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway the useless one who talks to fish]]".
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** Considering it was in ''[[DorkAge Countdown]]'' it seems Superboy-Prime's unforgivable crime was being in ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Countdown]]''.

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** Considering it was in ''[[DorkAge ''[[AudienceAlienatingEra Countdown]]'' it seems Superboy-Prime's unforgivable crime was being in ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Countdown]]''.



* ComicBook/{{Raven}} can't really live down her '90s DorkAge in which Marv Wolfman killed her off, then had her return as an evil sexual dominatrix who ruined Nightwing and Starfire's wedding, made out with Starfire and implanted her with a "demon seed" (later revealed to be her actual good soul), and attacked and made out with other [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]] to turn them into her servants. Especially controversial among one group of fans is the implication that she might have sexually abused Changeling when he was under her thrall, and had him either rape or cannibalize another woman in his madness. Although Wolfman would have "Dark Raven" and the good Raven confirmed and established as separate personalities and entities by the end of the run (with the Dark Raven persona having taken another woman's similar body in order to do her evil bidding and unknowingly transferring the purified Raven's soul into Starfire), there are a number of fans enraged that Raven was easily forgiven by her fellow Titans and will never forget this arc, ContinuityReboot aside. This especially gets brought up in "Raven vs. Terra" arguments, where those on Terra's side will argue that Raven was not any better than the teenage sociopath for these actions, as well as citing her early actions of mind-controlling Wally West (into loving her) as a way to get him to rejoin the Titans. Then there's the period where she tried to seduce Nightwing, even though it was resolved and Raven gave up on her feelings after being convinced that it was only platonic love that she felt.

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* ComicBook/{{Raven}} can't really live down her '90s DorkAge AudienceAlienatingEra in which Marv Wolfman killed her off, then had her return as an evil sexual dominatrix who ruined Nightwing and Starfire's wedding, made out with Starfire and implanted her with a "demon seed" (later revealed to be her actual good soul), and attacked and made out with other [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]] to turn them into her servants. Especially controversial among one group of fans is the implication that she might have sexually abused Changeling when he was under her thrall, and had him either rape or cannibalize another woman in his madness. Although Wolfman would have "Dark Raven" and the good Raven confirmed and established as separate personalities and entities by the end of the run (with the Dark Raven persona having taken another woman's similar body in order to do her evil bidding and unknowingly transferring the purified Raven's soul into Starfire), there are a number of fans enraged that Raven was easily forgiven by her fellow Titans and will never forget this arc, ContinuityReboot aside. This especially gets brought up in "Raven vs. Terra" arguments, where those on Terra's side will argue that Raven was not any better than the teenage sociopath for these actions, as well as citing her early actions of mind-controlling Wally West (into loving her) as a way to get him to rejoin the Titans. Then there's the period where she tried to seduce Nightwing, even though it was resolved and Raven gave up on her feelings after being convinced that it was only platonic love that she felt.
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* Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} has still to live down [[AudienceColoringAdaptation his portrayal]] on the ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'', and comics writers frequently show people mocking him for his abilities just before he proves them wrong. There's really no reason people in the DC universe don't take him seriously except for carryover from ''Superfriends.'' As far as the mainstream goes, no matter what DC tries, parodies of Aquaman in shows like ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' and ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'' will continue to perpetuate his reputation. This is on full display in the New 52's first issue of ''Aquaman''. Criminals and police alike are confused by Aquaman intervening in a non-water related crime. Patrons of a seafood restaurant are concerned to see him ordering fish. People confusing his ability to command sea creatures as 'talking to fish' is starting to wear on him too.
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** It seems as though John Stewart will always be remembered for either being the AngryBlackMan in his first few years or for causing a planet to blow up due to his cockiness. His character development is almost always tied back to at least one of those two things even though they occurred over some 20 plus years ago.

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** It seems as though John Stewart will always be remembered for either being the AngryBlackMan angry black man in his first few years or for causing a planet to blow up due to his cockiness. His character development is almost always tied back to at least one of those two things even though they occurred over some 20 plus years ago.
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Kill Em All was renamed Everybody Dies Ending due to misuse. Dewicking


* This is often how [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onzz]] feels about his time with the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational. Ironic in that previous to his ''International'' days, he had just come off of the "Detroit" League, which was one of the lowest points in the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica's history. One would think he would be more ashamed of that. Most of them ''[[KillEmAll died at the end]]''.

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* This is often how [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onzz]] feels about his time with the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational. Ironic in that previous to his ''International'' days, he had just come off of the "Detroit" League, which was one of the lowest points in the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica's history. One would think he would be more ashamed of that. Most of them ''[[KillEmAll ''[[EverybodyDiesEnding died at the end]]''.

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Now that I think about it, this is also misuse. Never Live It Down is when a character is narrowly defined by a single action. In Steph's case, fans exaggerate her many mistakes, so the appropriate trope would actually be Memetic Loser.


* [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] being regarded as 'incompetent'. For most of her career, Steph lacked Tim's experience and training, but [[ActionGirl could handle herself well in a fight]], was roughly on his level physically, and was a fast thinker. However, her goofy nature meant that she was often depicted as [[OvershadowedByAwesome comically out classed]] by her best friend [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]]. Add in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Games]]'', where Steph screws up was because Batman didn't trust her enough as Robin, and not many fans remember her for her accomplishments.
** Fans rarely remember that Killer Moth was a serious bad guy in Gotham, until he was beaten by Barbara Gordon in her ''first ever costumed outing'' as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, which destroyed his rep for all time.

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* [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] being regarded as 'incompetent'. For most of her career, Steph lacked Tim's experience and training, but [[ActionGirl could handle herself well in a fight]], was roughly on his level physically, and was a fast thinker. However, her goofy nature meant that she was often depicted as [[OvershadowedByAwesome comically out classed]] by her best friend [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]]. Add in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Games]]'', where Steph screws up was because Batman didn't trust her enough as Robin, and not many fans remember her for her accomplishments.
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Fans rarely remember that Killer Moth was a serious bad guy in Gotham, until he was beaten by Barbara Gordon in her ''first ever costumed outing'' as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, which destroyed his rep for all time.

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* ComicBook/{{Robin}} often skirts along this trope. Many people have made arguments as to why Robin does not belong in the Batman mythos and that Batman should go back to his days being a solo crimefighter. But it is rather interesting to note that Robin has existed in the mythos for almost as long as Batman himself, with there being only an 11 month difference between their introductions. In fact, Robin has been around longer than Alfred! It doesn't seem to matter that Robin is no longer even remotely similar to the 1960s Batman series, and has evolved from being the plucky sidekick in underwear to a character that has at times, been as dark as Batman himself. Some people love pointing out the flaws of his 1960s costume discarding how it has evolved over the years. Also, lets not forget that Robin has saved Batman enough times to no longer warrant the nickname "boy hostage" (a nickname given to him because of how often he was kidnapped in the Silver Age).
** Note that this refers to the Dick Grayson Robin, who gets ''much'' more respect as ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}. In fact, a lot of people would gladly see him in adaptations as Nightwing rather than as Robin. Though most of the people who hold this against him haven't actually read any comics, and are usually unaware, and surprised, that there's been ''five'' Robins. Though, they all have their baggage too.
*** On the subject of Nightwing, he gets a rather unfair reputation as being a womanizer, despite having been involved in two different healthy and monogamous relationships at two different times in his life. It was in the second Nightwing Annual in which (in a flashback retcon) he slept with Barbara Gordon (after seeing her for the first time since her injury), and then proceeded to invite her to his wedding with ComicBook/{{Starfire}}. Prior to that, he was honest and committed in his relationships, and the notorious Dick-Kory-Babs love triangle was never a realization until that Annual.
** Jason Todd was killed by ComicBook/TheJoker. He's also got his general impulsive JerkAss demeanor that made him a solid [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and is the very reason ''why'' he was killed. [[note]]Essentially DC had fans vote in whether or not Jason Todd would be killed.[[/note]]
** [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] has people he cares about dying, since it happened so much. Seriously; he lost his mom, he lost his best friend, his other best friend, his girlfriend, his dad, his step mom, some other friends, and his adopted father. Sure, all of them -except mom, dad, and step mom- came back, but the fact that it made him ''very'' broody made for something he'd never live down. Of all the Robins now, he's 'the emo one' or 'Batman Jr'.
** [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] was killed by Black Mask (like Jason, a NeverLiveItDown moment for both), and her being regarded as 'incompetent'. Generally for most of her career, Steph was actually surprisingly competent, given her state and conditions. Her costume was, originally, VERY practical, especially compared to most female costumes at the time (So much so that Tim thought she was a dude when he first saw her) despite being completely hand made on a shoe-string budget, and while she lacked Tim's experience and training, [[ActionGirl she could handle herself well in a fight]], was roughly on his level physically, and was a fast thinker in a fight. However her best friend was [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]], and her goofy nature meant that she was often depicted as [[OvershadowedByAwesome comically out classed]] around her. Add in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Games]]'', where the entire plot is basically 'Steph's an idiot and she screws up big time' (and ignore the fact that the main reason Steph screwed up was because Batman didn't even trust her enough as Robin to tell her about his Matches Malone identity, among other massive details), she's pretty much left looking 'incompetent'.
*** Oh yeah, and her recent benching following ''Flashpoint'' and ''New 52'', she's probably not going to live down being 'the one whose fans sent [[TrademarkFavoriteFood waffles]] to DC's offices'.
** And Damian Wayne: Being a brat. Yeah, Damian's still new so there's not much else besides how much of a brat he was at first, not helped by the fact that, while CharacterDevelopment has made him more soft and likeable, he's still a massive JerkAss, making his brattiness the main thing people remember.
*** Eventually people started depicting him as a cat lover, albeit an embarrassed and secretive one. This is due to ''Batman #666'' depicting a future version of Damian Wayne as Batman, wherein he has a pet cat named Alfred. Fans took this and ran with it. Later on, he got a dog (the New 52 version of Ace the Bat-Hound) called Titus, and also adopted Bat-Cow. So according toe the fandom, Damian is now basically really, really into animals and pets.

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* ComicBook/{{Robin}} often skirts along this trope. Many people have made arguments as to why Robin does not belong in the Batman mythos and that Batman should go back to his days being a solo crimefighter. But it is rather interesting to note that Robin has existed in the mythos for almost as long as Batman himself, with there being only an 11 month difference between their introductions. In fact, Robin has been around longer than Alfred! It doesn't seem to matter that Robin is no longer even remotely similar to the 1960s Batman series, and has evolved from being the plucky sidekick in underwear to a character that has at times, been as dark as Batman himself. Some people love pointing out the flaws of his 1960s costume discarding how it has evolved over the years. Also, lets not forget that Robin has saved Batman enough times to no longer warrant the nickname "boy hostage" (a nickname given to him because of how often he was kidnapped in the Silver Age).
** Note that this refers to the Dick Grayson Robin, who gets ''much'' more respect as ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}. In fact, a lot of people would gladly see him in adaptations as
Nightwing rather than as Robin. Though most of the people who hold this against him haven't actually read any comics, and are usually unaware, and surprised, that there's been ''five'' Robins. Though, they all have their baggage too.
*** On the subject of Nightwing, he
gets a rather unfair reputation as being a womanizer, despite having been involved in two different healthy and monogamous relationships at two different times in his life. It was in the second Nightwing Annual in which (in a flashback retcon) he slept with Barbara Gordon (after seeing her for the first time since her injury), and then proceeded to invite her to his wedding with ComicBook/{{Starfire}}. Prior to that, he was honest and committed in his relationships, and the notorious Dick-Kory-Babs love triangle was never a realization until that Annual.
** Jason Todd was killed by ComicBook/TheJoker. He's also got his general impulsive JerkAss demeanor that made him a solid [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and is the very reason ''why'' he was killed. [[note]]Essentially DC had fans vote in whether or not Jason Todd would be killed.[[/note]]
** [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] has people he cares about dying, since it happened so much. Seriously; he lost his mom, he lost his best friend, his other best friend, his girlfriend, his dad, his step mom, some other friends, and his adopted father. Sure, all of them -except mom, dad, and step mom- came back, but the fact that it made him ''very'' broody made for something he'd never live down. Of all the Robins now, he's 'the emo one' or 'Batman Jr'.
**
* [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] was killed by Black Mask (like Jason, a NeverLiveItDown moment for both), and her being regarded as 'incompetent'. Generally for For most of her career, Steph was actually surprisingly competent, given her state and conditions. Her costume was, originally, VERY practical, especially compared to most female costumes at the time (So much so that Tim thought she was a dude when he first saw her) despite being completely hand made on a shoe-string budget, and while she lacked Tim's experience and training, but [[ActionGirl she could handle herself well in a fight]], was roughly on his level physically, and was a fast thinker in a fight. However her best friend was [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]], and thinker. However, her goofy nature meant that she was often depicted as [[OvershadowedByAwesome comically out classed]] around her. by her best friend [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]]. Add in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Games]]'', where the entire plot is basically 'Steph's an idiot and she Steph screws up big time' (and ignore the fact that the main reason Steph screwed up was because Batman didn't even trust her enough as Robin to tell her about his Matches Malone identity, among other massive details), she's pretty much left looking 'incompetent'.
*** Oh yeah,
Robin, and her recent benching following ''Flashpoint'' and ''New 52'', she's probably not going to live down being 'the one whose many fans sent [[TrademarkFavoriteFood waffles]] to DC's offices'.
** And Damian Wayne: Being a brat. Yeah, Damian's still new so there's not much else besides how much of a brat he was at first, not helped by the fact that, while CharacterDevelopment has made him more soft and likeable, he's still a massive JerkAss, making his brattiness the main thing people remember.
*** Eventually people started depicting him as a cat lover, albeit an embarrassed and secretive one. This is due to ''Batman #666'' depicting a future version of Damian Wayne as Batman, wherein he has a pet cat named Alfred. Fans took this and ran with it. Later on, he got a dog (the New 52 version of Ace the Bat-Hound) called Titus, and also adopted Bat-Cow. So according toe the fandom, Damian is now basically really, really into animals and pets.
remember her for her accomplishments.
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* Creator/FrankMiller is usually remembered for writing prostitutes and "The Goddamn Batman." Thankfully, there are no plans to write a [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Goddamn prostitute Batman]]. The fact that Frank Miller used to write stories that could be low-key, poignant, or even tongue-in-cheek seems to have been forgotten by everyone, seemingly including Miller himself.
** In addition, his fight against Superman is often one of the most cited examples of "Batman always defeating Superman", never mind the measures that Batman had to take just to hold him down for periods, the fact that Superman was constantly holding back, and that he had outside help. Oh yeah, and ultimately ''Batman lost'' that fight. (He fakes his death at the end, which benefits him in the long term, but Superman's reaction at the funeral makes it clear he wasn't fooled and ultimately allowed it to happen.)
** ''Returns'' also gave Miller a reputation for seemingly hating Superman. This ignores the fact that, despite being a Batman comic, ''Returns'' also has a nuanced take on Superman struggling with ToBeLawfulOrGood and his friendship and loyalty to Bruce. This was so prevalent that when ''Superman: Year One'' was announced, Miller had to go on record stating that, no, he doesn't actually hate Superman and the reason Batman "won" the fight (see above) was because ''it was a Batman comic'', thus he had to win.

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** The infamous WeaksauceWeakness of a Green Lantern's ring having no power over yellow objects has been a frequent source of mockery for non-fans, persisting well after the weakness was changed to be the outcome of the central power battery imprisoning the fear entity Parallax, only be a problem with rookie Lanterns and a complete non-issue for experienced [=GL=]s who can handle yellow objects with ease by overcoming fear.
** Hal Jordan once slept Jordan's relationship with fellow Green Lantern Arisia didn't sit well with a teenager.lot of readers due to Arisia being underage. Not even the retcon of Arisia actually being far older than most living human beings was enough to fully offset the creepiness.
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* Roy Harper, a.k.a. Speedy/Arsenal/Red Arrow, has narrowly skirted the edges of this trope. His most memorable moment was [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DvKhdNIxfgE/SvdipQ6MBYI/AAAAAAAAAcE/0TqVAL768lI/s400/Junkie.jpg his 1971 battle with heroin addiction]]. While he hasn't lapsed ''back'' into addiction, the fact that he's a ''former'' junkie is a significant part of his backstory, and comes up regularly -- almost to the point of being a DisabilitySuperpower ("That was tough, but nothing compared to giving up drugs!"). An issue of ''Titans'' established that this actually wasn't the last time he did heroin, though, partially justifying the fact that it's constantly mentioned.
** It's worth noting that Roy's battle with drugs only lasted two issues. Compare to Iron Man's alcoholism, which lasted much longer and was portrayed more realistically.
** [[spoiler: He lapsed back into addiction after his daughter was killed and he lost an arm.]] When people talk about Roy post-[[spoiler:Lian's death]] people always tend to mention how he [[spoiler:hallucinated a dead kitten was his daughter while on drugs]].
** In one issue of ''The Outsiders'', Dick Grayson, ''his best friend'', used his past as a junkie against him when the two were having a really ugly argument. That's when the fists started flying.
** His addiction may no longer be in-continuity as of the Comicbook/{{New 52}} -- though he's indicated to be a recovering alcoholic.
** In ''Titans'', Roy's mention of "that wasn't the last time I did heroin" may have been a reference to the ''Arsenal Special'' from the mid 90s. In that story, Roy had traveled to China and was briefly held captive by a mob boss who injected him with heroin before having him locked up. Roy had since tried to keep that incident secret because he was afraid people would think he took the heroin willingly.
* ComicBook/{{Robin}} often skirts along this trope. Many people have made arguments as to why Robin does not belong in the Batman mythos and that Batman should go back to his days being a solo crimefighter. But it is rather interesting to note that Robin has existed in the mythos for almost as long as Batman himself, with there being only an 11 month difference between their introductions. In fact, Robin has been around longer than Alfred! It doesn't seem to matter that Robin is no longer even remotely similar to the 1960s Batman series, and has evolved from being the plucky sidekick in underwear to a character that has at times, been as dark as Batman himself. Some people love pointing out the flaws of his 1960s costume discarding how it has evolved over the years. Also, lets not forget that Robin has saved Batman enough times to no longer warrant the nickname "boy hostage" (a nickname given to him because of how often he was kidnapped in the Silver Age).
** Note that this refers to the Dick Grayson Robin, who gets ''much'' more respect as ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}. In fact, a lot of people would gladly see him in adaptations as Nightwing rather than as Robin. Though most of the people who hold this against him haven't actually read any comics, and are usually unaware, and surprised, that there's been ''five'' Robins. Though, they all have their baggage too.
*** On the subject of Nightwing, he gets a rather unfair reputation as being a womanizer, despite having been involved in two different healthy and monogamous relationships at two different times in his life. It was in the second Nightwing Annual in which (in a flashback retcon) he slept with Barbara Gordon (after seeing her for the first time since her injury), and then proceeded to invite her to his wedding with ComicBook/{{Starfire}}. Prior to that, he was honest and committed in his relationships, and the notorious Dick-Kory-Babs love triangle was never a realization until that Annual.
** Jason Todd was killed by ComicBook/TheJoker. He's also got his general impulsive JerkAss demeanor that made him a solid [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and is the very reason ''why'' he was killed. [[note]]Essentially DC had fans vote in whether or not Jason Todd would be killed.[[/note]]
** [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] has people he cares about dying, since it happened so much. Seriously; he lost his mom, he lost his best friend, his other best friend, his girlfriend, his dad, his step mom, some other friends, and his adopted father. Sure, all of them -except mom, dad, and step mom- came back, but the fact that it made him ''very'' broody made for something he'd never live down. Of all the Robins now, he's 'the emo one' or 'Batman Jr'.
** [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] was killed by Black Mask (like Jason, a NeverLiveItDown moment for both), and her being regarded as 'incompetent'. Generally for most of her career, Steph was actually surprisingly competent, given her state and conditions. Her costume was, originally, VERY practical, especially compared to most female costumes at the time (So much so that Tim thought she was a dude when he first saw her) despite being completely hand made on a shoe-string budget, and while she lacked Tim's experience and training, [[ActionGirl she could handle herself well in a fight]], was roughly on his level physically, and was a fast thinker in a fight. However her best friend was [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]], and her goofy nature meant that she was often depicted as [[OvershadowedByAwesome comically out classed]] around her. Add in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Games]]'', where the entire plot is basically 'Steph's an idiot and she screws up big time' (and ignore the fact that the main reason Steph screwed up was because Batman didn't even trust her enough as Robin to tell her about his Matches Malone identity, among other massive details), she's pretty much left looking 'incompetent'.
*** Oh yeah, and her recent benching following ''Flashpoint'' and ''New 52'', she's probably not going to live down being 'the one whose fans sent [[TrademarkFavoriteFood waffles]] to DC's offices'.
** And Damian Wayne: Being a brat. Yeah, Damian's still new so there's not much else besides how much of a brat he was at first, not helped by the fact that, while CharacterDevelopment has made him more soft and likeable, he's still a massive JerkAss, making his brattiness the main thing people remember.
*** Eventually people started depicting him as a cat lover, albeit an embarrassed and secretive one. This is due to ''Batman #666'' depicting a future version of Damian Wayne as Batman, wherein he has a pet cat named Alfred. Fans took this and ran with it. Later on, he got a dog (the New 52 version of Ace the Bat-Hound) called Titus, and also adopted Bat-Cow. So according toe the fandom, Damian is now basically really, really into animals and pets.
** Fans rarely remember that Killer Moth was a serious bad guy in Gotham, until he was beaten by Barbara Gordon in her ''first ever costumed outing'' as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, which destroyed his rep for all time.
* Thanks to Internet memes, it's now pretty hard to forget that Batman himself once slapped Robin in a moment of anguish[[note]]And that was a "What If" story[[/note]], or that he once threatened to spank a woman.
* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'':
** Hal Jordan once slept with a teenager.
** Jordan's run as the supervillain Parallax.
** Guy Gardner, "One Punch!", and his '80s "complete pig" behavior tend to overshadow his current BoisterousBruiser status. That, and the fact that he used to be a milquetoast schoolteacher, a lawyer, and a grating pantywaist at various points in his life. On top of that, there's ''nothing'' at all unusual about a single well-placed strike ending the fight. It happens in MMA all the time. Batman knew what he was doing and didn't want the conflict to escalate any further, is all. Plus, it was Batman, probably the strongest normal human on Earth and a master of hand-to-hand combat who specializes in '''beating superhumans unconscious''' and fought and killed a god. More than once. But honestly... if Gardner had been on his guard and hadn't idiotically taken his ring off first, Batman would never have been able to lay a finger on him.
** Kyle Rayner's first girlfriend Alex was the trope-namer for StuffedIntoTheFridge (she even appeared as a Black Lantern ''inside a fridge construct'' in ''ComicBook/BlackestNight''!) and since then, things have not gone well for his love life. Since he lost the position of the star of ''Green Lantern'', many writers and fans seem to remember him only for this, and the list of his loved ones killed has gone on to include Jade, Donna Troy (although both have gotten better - and Jade has moved on), and his mother. His latest girlfriend, Soranik Natu, escaped being killed, but her fate was hardly better - Kyle put his foot in his mouth and broke her heart, and last we saw she's now a bitter ex.
** It seems as though John Stewart will always be remembered for either being the AngryBlackMan in his first few years or for causing a planet to blow up due to his cockiness. His character development is almost always tied back to at least one of those two things even though they occurred over some 20 plus years ago.
* Creator/FrankMiller is usually remembered for writing prostitutes and "The Goddamn Batman." Thankfully, there are no plans to write a [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Goddamn prostitute Batman]]. The fact that Frank Miller used to write stories that could be low-key, poignant, or even tongue-in-cheek seems to have been forgotten by everyone, seemingly including Miller himself.
** In addition, his fight against Superman is often one of the most cited examples of "Batman always defeating Superman", never mind the measures that Batman had to take just to hold him down for periods, the fact that Superman was constantly holding back, and that he had outside help. Oh yeah, and ultimately ''Batman lost'' that fight. (He fakes his death at the end, which benefits him in the long term, but Superman's reaction at the funeral makes it clear he wasn't fooled and ultimately allowed it to happen.)
** ''Returns'' also gave Miller a reputation for seemingly hating Superman. This ignores the fact that, despite being a Batman comic, ''Returns'' also has a nuanced take on Superman struggling with ToBeLawfulOrGood and his friendship and loyalty to Bruce. This was so prevalent that when ''Superman: Year One'' was announced, Miller had to go on record stating that, no, he doesn't actually hate Superman and the reason Batman "won" the fight (see above) was because ''it was a Batman comic'', thus he had to win.
* DC Comics supervillain Doctor Light was a largely unused character who gained some relevance when it was revealed that he had raped the wife of a superhero. Since then, the fact that he's a rapist has become such an integral part of his character that he could very well be renamed Doctor Rape. To quote Plastic Man, "It's like that's his power now."
** This was basically a calculated use of this trope by DC writers, which turned Light into a major villain overnight (albeit one whose major goal seems to be raping women instead of world domination). Note that before the rape revelation, he'd never been portrayed as possessing any sort of sexual deviancy. Even when he was killed off, he was in the middle of an orgy with a bunch of hookers dressed as superheroines.
** The way he keeps mentioning it over and over makes him seem ''more'' of a joke character: a HarmlessVillain by TheVerse's standards ''constantly'' reminding us of the ''one'' time that he managed to do something nasty in a failed attempt to assure heroes that he's evil, no, ''really,'' he is!
* ComicBook/GreenArrow and ComicBook/BlackCanary had a twenty-year-long romantic relationship, during which time GA's total non-Dinah activity consisted of a) being [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale raped]] and b) kissing another woman (once). Somehow, both writers and fans take from this [[AllMenArePerverts that Oliver is a total slut]] [[TheUnfairSex who constantly sleeps around on the long-suffering Dinah]]. To justify this, writers added him sleeping with Black Lightning's niece, and later Manitou Raven's wife, to make his 'total manwhore' status valid.
* ComicBook/{{Bane}}, Franchise/{{Batman}}'s foe, received a number of augmentations, such as subcutaneous shields, and the "Venom" drug that increased his already formidable strength. He beat Batman mostly through simple intelligence, and was captured by "[[FanNickname AzBats]]" pulling the Venom tube out of his head (but he was still far from helpless). In the comics, he weaned himself off the drug while in prison, has allied himself with and fought Batman on several occasions without any chemical assistance, and is established as a Batman-level strategist. Most interpretations of him in other media (up until the past few years) are of a thug who goes down the ''second'' he's deprived of Venom, and is often DumbMuscle to boot.
** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' is... a bit mixed on this. [[spoiler: Although it portrays him as still a Venom addict, and has him almost completely paralyzed when Dr. Young removes all traces of it from his body, merely being unhooked from his Venom pump barely slows him down. The roof collapsing on him manages to buy enough time for Batman and Commissioner Gordon to get out... but he turns out to have been feigning defeat to try to catch Batman off guard. Unfortunately for him, Batman actually anticipated this, and knocks him into the river with the Batmobile when he tries to ambush them.]] Not quite "Batman-level strategist without chemical dependencies", but a step in the right direction. And, his mannerisms and speech also show that he's anything ''but'' DumbMuscle.
*** The sequel game ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' has him team up with Batman in a side mission to round up and the remaining supplies of the Titan formula, in order to maintain his lock on super-drug-enhanced market. [[spoiler:Turns out he was only pretending so Batman would retrieve the supply, and was pretty pissed at Batman for destroying it; he wanted to keep it for himself. It also turns out Batman anticipated him, [[BatmanGambit and let Bane round up his half of the supply so he wouldn't have to look for it himself]]. Then he traps Bane and destroys it.]]
*** The prequel game ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' offers an explanation for Bane's being a mountain of muscle in ''Asylum'', as well as a potential explanation for his not being as clever as in the comics. The game initially portrays him close to the comics, with a bulky but still realistic physique ''and'' smart enough to [[spoiler: figure out Batman's SecretIdentity, which he uses to [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs attack the Batcave]] and kill Alfred (Bruce manages to revive him)]]. Then in the final battle [[spoiler:Bane wants to beat Batman, and therefore injects himself with TN-1, an experimental "upgrade" of Venom (and the precursor to the Titan drug from ''Asylum''), which makes him grow into a giant but also damages his brain, especially his memory center]].
** This was also averted in the most unlikely place of all: ''VideoGame/LegoBatman'' where Bane is calmly reading a book while he beats Killer Croc at arm wrestling. Amazing how a dialogue-less video game shows his intelligence better than most cartoons.
** In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Bane only uses Venom at a strategic point of the decisive fight, and is defeated when Batman ''opens'' the valve to his tank, severely overdosing him with the drug. It seems to be played straight in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', where Bane is a cripple on life support due to the Venom use, but once you take into account that he's in his eighties and the condition of other users after mere ''weeks''...
** ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' shows Bane to be a cunning tactician without the use of Venom. In his normal human form, he is even able to use his knowledge of martial arts to briefly overpower ComicBook/{{Superboy}} during a struggle. However, he does go down rather easy once Superboy and Miss Martian work together to beat him up, making it a bit of an inversion of the other examples; he's extremely intelligent, and is a BadassNormal, but he's obviously outclassed by the two super-powered aliens. But the fact that it took ''both'' of them says something about his durability.
** ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' actually portrays Bane's tactical skill and physical strength, and omits the Venom completely (instead, he's hooked up to anesthesia to dull the pain from an old injury).
--->'''Creator/ChristopherNolan:''' Bane, to me, is something we haven't dealt with in the films. We wanted to do something very different in this film. He's a primarily physical villain, he's a classic movie monster in a way - [[GeniusBruiser but with a terrific brain.]]
** Though ironically this depiction has created ''another'' NeverLiveItDown for Bane, in the form of the voice that Creator/TomHardy used for him. The voice sounded dissonantly cheerful (due to the medication that the character was using), but proved divisive and quickly became a subject of mockery. Ever since, every less-serious take on the character has incorporated a parody of the voice.
** An earlier film incarnation of Bane, in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'', is a 98 pound weakling before the Venom, and is dumbed down to the point that most of his dialogue consists of him [[PokemonSpeak shouting his own name]]. Though it's doubtful anyone considers this a canon representation of the character, since just about everyone wants to pretend ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' never happened.
** Also, when Bane appears in ''any'' sort of media that doesn't outright depict the scene in question, expect ''some'' reference to his "Breaking the Bat" moment in ''ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}''. Probably the few times a character can't live down an ''achievement'' rather than a failure.
* Superboy-Prime had become an immature whiny sociopath in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', but still had some motives that made him slip near WellIntentionedExtremist. But in ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'', he said one line, after which fans forgot about that and marked him as an complete idiot and nobody could treat him seriously after that. This line was:
-->'''Prime:''' ''I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU TO DEATH!''
** Considering it was in ''[[DorkAge Countdown]]'' it seems Superboy-Prime's unforgivable crime was being in ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Countdown]]''.
** That line aside, Superboy-Prime's dialog in the whole story makes him come as an immature nitwit, and his actions make it hard to view him as anything but a monster since after seeing a museum devoted to an AlternateUniverse Superman, [[MoralEventHorizon he loses his temper and murders that Superman]], [[FromBadToWorse his pregnant wife, the Earth's Justice League, and destroys the entire Earth.]] Really, that scene does a better job establishing as a whiny PsychopathicManchild than the above MemeticMutation.
* ComicBook/JimmyOlsen will ''never'' live down turning into the [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Giant_Turtle_Man_8340.jpg Giant Turtle Man]]. Out of all the things he's turned into, that seems to be the one people are most determined to remind him of.
* This is often how [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onzz]] feels about his time with the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational. Ironic in that previous to his ''International'' days, he had just come off of the "Detroit" League, which was one of the lowest points in the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica's history. One would think he would be more ashamed of that. Most of them ''[[KillEmAll died at the end]]''.
* Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} has still to live down [[AudienceColoringAdaptation his portrayal]] on the ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'', and comics writers frequently show people mocking him for his abilities just before he proves them wrong. There's really no reason people in the DC universe don't take him seriously except for carryover from ''Superfriends.'' As far as the mainstream goes, no matter what DC tries, parodies of Aquaman in shows like ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' and ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'' will continue to perpetuate his reputation. This is on full display in the New 52's first issue of ''Aquaman''. Criminals and police alike are confused by Aquaman intervening in a non-water related crime. Patrons of a seafood restaurant are concerned to see him ordering fish. People confusing his ability to command sea creatures as 'talking to fish' is starting to wear on him too.
* ComicBook/TheJoker and, well any writer who portrays him as a poor fighter who goes down with one hit. Some have actually written him as a very capable fighter, due to his [[ConfusionFu unpredictable nature]] and [[CombatSadomasochist high pain tolerance]]. In "Mad Love" he even held his own against Batman. But the fandom seems completely blind to this.
* ComicBook/{{Raven}} can't really live down her '90s DorkAge in which Marv Wolfman killed her off, then had her return as an evil sexual dominatrix who ruined Nightwing and Starfire's wedding, made out with Starfire and implanted her with a "demon seed" (later revealed to be her actual good soul), and attacked and made out with other [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]] to turn them into her servants. Especially controversial among one group of fans is the implication that she might have sexually abused Changeling when he was under her thrall, and had him either rape or cannibalize another woman in his madness. Although Wolfman would have "Dark Raven" and the good Raven confirmed and established as separate personalities and entities by the end of the run (with the Dark Raven persona having taken another woman's similar body in order to do her evil bidding and unknowingly transferring the purified Raven's soul into Starfire), there are a number of fans enraged that Raven was easily forgiven by her fellow Titans and will never forget this arc, ContinuityReboot aside. This especially gets brought up in "Raven vs. Terra" arguments, where those on Terra's side will argue that Raven was not any better than the teenage sociopath for these actions, as well as citing her early actions of mind-controlling Wally West (into loving her) as a way to get him to rejoin the Titans. Then there's the period where she tried to seduce Nightwing, even though it was resolved and Raven gave up on her feelings after being convinced that it was only platonic love that she felt.
** This has created a continual cycle of Raven walking through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor ad nauseam, where the moment she sports red skin and/or four eyes, fans immediately know what's about to go down. There are large portions of the fanbase that can't help but view this as a flaw in itself: Raven is [[TheCorruptible so easily corruptible into evil]] that whether she's currently good or not doesn't matter. Looking at it cynically, one could see her as a fair-weather friend who is on your side one minute, but so naive and unguarded that anyone can manipulate her into being hostile or turn her against you with one mood swing.
--->"[[https://youtu.be/MRwB-C_hXqY?t=311 Raven. If at first you succeed, try over and over to recapture it, and fail miserably.]]"
** As if that weren't enough, a Marv Wolfman-penned ''"Raven"'' miniseries during the run of Teen Titans volume 3 had the tagline on the first cover: "Now in her own EMO series". Fans still snark of it many years later, as well as the incomprehensible art style that seemed to clash with the writing.
* ComicBook/WonderGirl: It was difficult for Cassie Sandsmark to live down the period of volume 3 where Geoff Johns and every writer after seemed to turn her into an increasingly catty, abrasive and overbearing team member who was supposedly powerful and leader material, but condescending and demanding to her teammates and who took up screentime from other characters. Then there was the time that she and Supergirl hijacked that plane during "Amazons Attack" and kidnapped a president...
* Bryan Q. Miller had Aquagirl attempt to seduce ComicBook/BlueBeetle in volume 3 and make him stray away from his girlfriend (Traci 13). Despite a completely different characterization beforehand by other writers, Aquagirl was now deemed the homewrecker and team slut by a vocal group of fans with many cries for her to be killed off. JT Krul [[PutOnABus didn't exactly kill her, but swiftly wrote her and Bombshell off the team]] in an offhand remark when it came to his run (Cassie had fired the two for a lack of experience).
* Ted Kord, the second ComicBook/BlueBeetle, had a bit of a weight problem towards the end of the Giffen/[=DeMatthies=] run on ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational'', and then there was a story in ''Justice League Quarterly'' #8 (March 1992) where he went on a diet and exercise regime and looked set to stick to it. And in the comics, that was that. In fandom he was "the FatSlob superhero" right up until he died (although some used his weight issues to make him more of TheWoobie). This weight problem is not forgotten by some authors either, as it was referenced in Chuck Dixon's run on ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'' and in ''Countdown to ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' when Ted reflects on his past.
* ComicBook/LoisLane often gets mocked for being a supposedly brilliant journalist who can't tell that Clark Kent and Superman are one in the same. Leaving aside the two decades or so ComicBook/PostCrisis in which she was Clark's SecretKeeper, stories about Lois strongly suspecting (but being unable to ''prove'') the truth date all the way back to ''1942''. It doesn't help that [[Film/ManOfSteel any depiction]] where she knows right from the start ends up being the victim of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} is never going to live down [[BestialityIsDepraved dating her horse, Comet.]] Whether the constant ignorance of the fact that he was actually a sentient centaur-magically-turned-horse and he had become ''human'' when they ''actually'' dated is ignorance or just RuleOfFunny is unknown.
* Given all the jokes that both the Internet [[ComicBook/TinyTitans and DC themselves]] have been making about it, it's pretty obvious that {{Franchise/Superman}} isn't going to live down how [[ComicBook/New52 his more]] [[Film/ManOfSteel recent costumes]] lack his classic UnderwearOfPower.
* People will probably never forget the time that New 52 ComicBook/HarleyQuinn slaughtered hundreds of innocent adults and [[WouldHurtAChild children]] by having bombs hidden in handheld video game machines. It was [[CrossesTheLineTwice so deplorable]] and so beyond the lighter tone and characterisation of Harley's solo title that began soon afterwards, that it became FanonDiscontinuity almost immediately. However, it is still constantly brought up, right down to the story being included in the character's "best of" TPB in 2015.
* ComicBook/{{Zatanna}} [[MindRape mind wiping]] Doctor Light to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood make him less dangerous]], and then mind wiping [[spoiler:Franchise/{{Batman}}]], in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' has become this. It's got to the point that before the 2011 reboot that every single one of Zatanna's main appearances referenced her mind wiping. First issue of ''Comicbook/GothamCitySirens'' even had ComicBook/PoisonIvy call her "Miss Mindwipe." Zatanna will ONLY ever be known FOR the mind wipes.
* Writer Ron Marz will '''never''' live down killing off Kyle Rayner's girlfriend Alex and having her body stuffed into a refrigerator, the original {{Trope Namer|s}} for StuffedIntoTheFridge. Even though the death of a loved one, male or female, to give a hero's backstory more tragedy was already an old trope when he did it in the early Nineties. It was in no small part due to Creator/GailSimone and her website "Website/WomenInRefrigerators" that was used as a rallying cry against what was perceived as sexism in comic books. Then later, Simone and Marz met and actually became somewhat good friends... and now some people will never let Simone live down the fact that she railed against Marz and the character death. Not only supporters of Marz, but those who felt that Simone betrayed her past actions by associating herself with a man who would do such a thing and sold out.
* No matter what she does, or how well a character she's written, ComicBook/PowerGirl will always be mostly known as the patron saint of GagBoobs.
* No matter how he might top himself in pure despicableness, ComicBook/LexLuthor is best known among geeks for stealing 40 cakes--that's as many as four tens!--in an incident that would become the {{Trope Namer|s}} for AndThatsTerrible.
* [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica The JSA]] will likely never escape jokes about how how their first female member, Franchise/WonderWoman, was relegated to the role of their secretary.

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