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14th Sep '16 7:58:59 PM gewunomox
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In 1989, Skinny Puppy released the album ''Rabies'', which was (upon release) considered a NewSoundAlbum because it contained metal-style guitar riffs on three tracks, courtesy of Music/{{Ministry}}'s Al Jourgensen (who had struck up a friendship with Nivek Ogre when the two bands were touring together). In hindsight however, most Skinny Puppy fans have got over the 'surprise' and embraced the album, partly because the song "Worlock" is considered one of Skinny Puppy's [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments]] and to this day remains one of their [[SignatureSong Signature Songs]]. Unfortunately, it was during this era that Al introduced the band to heroin.

In 1990, the band released ''Too Dark Park'', which is arguably considered their artistic high point by the majority of their fans. The album is not the ''most'' bizzare and inaccessible of their works (that honor is reserved for 1988's "[=VIVIsectVI=]" (pronounced "Vivisect Six")), but it manages to approach it, with tighter songwriting, catchy basslines, and surprising sonic range that went from pure MindRape rhythmic noise (songs like "Convulsion") to dark ambient (like "Reclamation") to danceable, melodic and bizarre industrial (like "Tormentor") to darker and more minimal industrial (like "Nature's Revenge") to going between all these various different styles ''within the same song'' (like "Shore Lined Poison").

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In 1989, Skinny Puppy released the album ''Rabies'', which was (upon release) considered a NewSoundAlbum because it contained metal-style guitar riffs on three tracks, courtesy of Music/{{Ministry}}'s Al Jourgensen (who had struck up a friendship with Nivek Ogre when the two bands were touring together). In hindsight however, most Skinny Puppy fans have got over the 'surprise' and embraced the album, partly because the song "Worlock" is considered one of Skinny Puppy's [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments]] and to this day remains one of their [[SignatureSong Signature Songs]]. Unfortunately, it was during this era that Al introduced the band to heroin.

In 1990, the band released ''Too Dark Park'', which is arguably considered their artistic high point by the majority of their fans. The album is not the ''most'' bizzare bizarre and inaccessible of their works (that honor is reserved for 1988's "[=VIVIsectVI=]" (pronounced "Vivisect Six")), Six"), but it manages to approach it, with tighter songwriting, catchy basslines, and surprising sonic range that went from pure MindRape rhythmic noise (songs like "Convulsion") to dark ambient (like "Reclamation") to danceable, melodic and bizarre industrial (like "Tormentor") to darker and more minimal industrial (like "Nature's Revenge") to going between all these various different styles ''within the same song'' (like "Shore Lined Poison").
2nd May '16 1:49:09 AM aye_amber
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Skinny Puppy are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as Music/ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker for SynthPop) + Music/ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.

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Skinny Puppy are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as Music/ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy ''Skinny Puppy'' as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker (TropeMakers for SynthPop) + Music/ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker (TropeMakers for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.
20th Jan '16 4:43:41 AM aye_amber
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15th Jul '15 3:39:13 AM spirasen
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SkinnyPuppy are one of the most influential bands in the field of ElectronicMusic. However, their mainstream success has been modest at best (a few hits on the dance music charts during TheEighties). The impact of "[[FanNickname Skuppy]]" comes primarily from the amount of artists they in turn have influenced.

The band was formed when Kevin Crompton (a.k.a. cEvin Key), drummer for the SynthPop band Images In Vogue, got bored with making SynthPop and wanted to make new and groundbreaking ElectronicMusic. He got his friend Kevin Ogilvie (a.k.a. Nivek Ogre), to provide vocals. Along the way, various other members have provided the role of third member, such as Bill Leeb (who went on to form FrontLineAssembly), and most famously Dwayne Rudolph Goettel (who died of a heroin overdose in the mid-90s, causing the band to break up for almost a decade), and most recently Mark Walk.

SkinnyPuppy are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as Music/ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker for SynthPop) + Music/ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.

SkinnyPuppy were not the first band to take Throbbing Gristle's attitude and approach ElectronicMusic with it. Arguably, Throbbing Gristle did this (albeit their work was more eclectic and less electronic than Skinny Puppy's), and Cabaret Voltaire (as well as many other acts associated with early 80's SynthPop) did it as well. But SkinnyPuppy took these ideas into much DarkerAndEdgier territory and were easily the most influential partly because they had a truly gruesome stage act and never refrained from the use of NightmareFuel.

The band's second album, "Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse," added Dwayne Goettel to the lineup. Goettel was a classically-trained keyboardist who also had a knack for extremely demented synthesizer and sampler programming. This is the classic lineup that defined the band during their golden age.

Their output was released on the Nettwerk record label and managed to influence a very large number of artists. One of these artists was Trent Reznor, who decided to combine Skinny Puppy's style with heavy riffs and rock-style vocals and lyrics (and, at times, increased use of guitars). The result was NineInchNails. Trent Reznor himself acknowledges his inspiration, and the song "Down In It" off of "Pretty Hate Machine" is very similar to Skinny Puppy's "Dig It" from "Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse." At one point in Trent's early career, NineInchNails was the opening act for SkinnyPuppy.

In 1989, Skinny Puppy released the album "Rabies," which was (upon release) considered a NewSoundAlbum because it contained metal-style guitar riffs on three tracks, courtesy of Music/{{Ministry}}'s Al Jourgensen (who had struck up a friendship with Nivek Ogre when the two bands were touring together). In hindsight however, most SkinnyPuppy fans have got over the 'surprise' and embraced the album, partly because the song "Worlock" is considered one of Skinny Puppy's [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments]] and to this day remains one of their [[SignatureSong Signature Songs]]. Unfortunately, it was during this era that Al introduced the band to heroin.

In 1990, the band released "Too Dark Park," which is arguably considered their artistic high point by the majority of their fans. The album is not the ''most'' bizzare and inaccessible of their works (that honor is reserved for 1988's "[=VIVIsectVI=]" (pronounced "Vivisect Six")), but it manages to approach it, with tighter songwriting, catchy basslines, and surprising sonic range that went from pure MindRape rhythmic noise (songs like "Convulsion") to dark ambient (like "Reclamation") to danceable, melodic and bizarre industrial (like "Tormentor") to darker and more minimal industrial (like "Nature's Revenge") to going between all these various different styles ''within the same song'' (like "Shore Lined Poison").

In 1996, the band suffered CreatorBreakdown after switching to a new label. They released what was believed to be their final album, "The Process" (a ConceptAlbum about a psychotherapy cult known as the Process Church of Final Judgement), after Dwayne Goettel's fondness for heroin caught up with him and left him as a corpse at his parents' house.

In the early 2000's, Skuppy did a one-off reformation show in Dresden at that "Doomsday" festival. The two Kevins performed in front of a screaming crowd of goths and rivetheads; they left a spare spot on stage for Dwayne out of respect. This reformation resulted in new albums; 2004's "The Greater Wrong Of The Right" followed by 2008's "Mythmaker", 2011's much delayed "[=hanDover=]", which incorporated more minimalist IDM elements, and 2013's "Weapon".

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SkinnyPuppy Skinny Puppy are one of the most influential bands in the field of ElectronicMusic. However, their mainstream success has been modest at best (a few hits on the dance music charts during TheEighties). The impact of "[[FanNickname Skuppy]]" comes primarily from the amount of artists they in turn have influenced.

The band was formed when Kevin Crompton (a.k.a. cEvin Key), drummer for the SynthPop band Images In Vogue, ''Images in Vogue'', got bored with making SynthPop and wanted to make new and groundbreaking ElectronicMusic. He got his friend Kevin Ogilvie (a.k.a. Nivek Ogre), to provide vocals. Along the way, various other members have provided the role of third member, such as Bill Leeb (who went on to form FrontLineAssembly), Music/FrontLineAssembly), and most famously Dwayne Rudolph Goettel (who died of a heroin overdose in the mid-90s, causing the band to break up for almost a decade), and most recently Mark Walk.

SkinnyPuppy
Walk.

Skinny Puppy
are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as Music/ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker for SynthPop) + Music/ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.

SkinnyPuppy
like.

Skinny Puppy
were not the first band to take Throbbing Gristle's attitude and approach ElectronicMusic with it. Arguably, Throbbing Gristle did this (albeit their work was more eclectic and less electronic than Skinny Puppy's), and Cabaret Voltaire Music/CabaretVoltaire (as well as many other acts associated with early 80's '80s SynthPop) did it as well. But SkinnyPuppy Skinny Puppy took these ideas into much DarkerAndEdgier territory and were easily the most influential partly because they had a truly gruesome stage act and never refrained from the use of NightmareFuel.

NightmareFuel.

The band's second album, "Mind: ''Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse," Intercourse'', added Dwayne Goettel to the lineup. Goettel was a classically-trained keyboardist who also had a knack for extremely demented synthesizer and sampler programming. This is the classic lineup that defined the band during their golden age.

age.

Their output was released on the Nettwerk record label and managed to influence a very large number of artists. One of these artists was Trent Reznor, who decided to combine Skinny Puppy's style with heavy riffs and rock-style vocals and lyrics (and, at times, increased use of guitars). The result was NineInchNails. Music/NineInchNails. Trent Reznor himself acknowledges his inspiration, and the song "Down In in It" off of "Pretty Hate Machine" is very similar to Skinny Puppy's "Dig It" from "Mind: ''Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse." Intercourse''. At one point in Trent's early career, NineInchNails Nine Inch Nails was the opening act for SkinnyPuppy.

Skinny Puppy.

In 1989, Skinny Puppy released the album "Rabies," ''Rabies'', which was (upon release) considered a NewSoundAlbum because it contained metal-style guitar riffs on three tracks, courtesy of Music/{{Ministry}}'s Al Jourgensen (who had struck up a friendship with Nivek Ogre when the two bands were touring together). In hindsight however, most SkinnyPuppy Skinny Puppy fans have got over the 'surprise' and embraced the album, partly because the song "Worlock" is considered one of Skinny Puppy's [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments]] and to this day remains one of their [[SignatureSong Signature Songs]]. Unfortunately, it was during this era that Al introduced the band to heroin.

In 1990, the band released "Too ''Too Dark Park," Park'', which is arguably considered their artistic high point by the majority of their fans. The album is not the ''most'' bizzare and inaccessible of their works (that honor is reserved for 1988's "[=VIVIsectVI=]" (pronounced "Vivisect Six")), but it manages to approach it, with tighter songwriting, catchy basslines, and surprising sonic range that went from pure MindRape rhythmic noise (songs like "Convulsion") to dark ambient (like "Reclamation") to danceable, melodic and bizarre industrial (like "Tormentor") to darker and more minimal industrial (like "Nature's Revenge") to going between all these various different styles ''within the same song'' (like "Shore Lined Poison").

Poison").

In 1996, the band suffered CreatorBreakdown after switching to a new label. They released what was believed to be their final album, "The Process" ''The Process'' (a ConceptAlbum about a psychotherapy cult known as the Process Church of Final Judgement), after Dwayne Goettel's fondness for heroin caught up with him and left him as a corpse at his parents' house.

house.

In the early 2000's, Skuppy did a one-off reformation show in Dresden at that "Doomsday" festival. The two Kevins performed in front of a screaming crowd of goths and rivetheads; they left a spare spot on stage for Dwayne out of respect. This reformation resulted in new albums; 2004's "The ''The Greater Wrong Of The Right" of the Right'' followed by 2008's "Mythmaker", ''Mythmaker'', 2011's much delayed "[=hanDover=]", ''[=hanDover=]'', which incorporated more minimalist IDM elements, and 2013's "Weapon".

''Weapon''.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: The "Too Dark Park" backing videos: the band made 14 high quality music videos songs performed on the "Too Dark Park" tour, most of which were songs that lacked an official video. Many fans consider the videos (God Gift Maggot, Tin Omen, etc) to be official music videos for said songs, a view not shared by the band sadly.
* ConceptAlbum: ''The Process'' is about a religious cult called The Process Church Of Final Judgement. ''Last Rights'' is a loose concept album based around life and death as well.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The basic concept of their work is DarkerAndEdgier (in the sense of being more bizarre and experimental) SynthPop.
* EightiesHair: [[http://www.last.fm/music/Skinny+Puppy/+images/4161234 Yes]].
* EpicRocking: The live noise jam "Spahn Dirge" is 16 1/2 minutes long. The final track on ''Last Rights'', "Download", while not really so an example of rocking due to the fact that it's mostly ambient, certainly is epic at eleven minutes long. Puppy Gristle also falls into this territory. 40 minutes.
* FollowTheLeader: The LighterAndSofter sound of ''The Process'' was intended by American Recordings to capitalize on the success of NineInchNails.
* FreudianTrio: Especially in [[http://www.waste.org/~skumm/AP2.html this interview]], it's easy to see Ogre as TheMcCoy, cEvin as TheSpock and Dwayne as TheKirk.
* GaiasVengeance: ''Nature's Revenge''

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* CanonDiscontinuity: The "Too ''Too Dark Park" Park'' backing videos: the The band made 14 high quality music videos songs performed on the "Too Too Dark Park" Park tour, most of which were songs that lacked an official video. Many fans consider the videos (God Gift Maggot, Tin Omen, etc) etc.) to be official music videos for said songs, a view not shared by the band sadly.
* ConceptAlbum: ''The Process'' is about a religious cult called The Process Church Of of Final Judgement. ''Last Rights'' is a loose concept album based around life and death as well.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The basic concept of their work is DarkerAndEdgier (in the sense of being more bizarre and experimental) SynthPop.
SynthPop.
* EightiesHair: [[http://www.last.fm/music/Skinny+Puppy/+images/4161234 Yes]].
[[http://i.imgur.com/U41X0bZ.jpg Yes]].
* EpicRocking: The live noise jam "Spahn Dirge" is 16 1/2 minutes long. The final track on ''Last Rights'', "Download", "Download," while not really so an example of rocking due to the fact that it's mostly ambient, certainly is epic at eleven minutes long. Puppy Gristle "Puppy Gristle" also falls into this territory. 40 minutes.
* FollowTheLeader: The LighterAndSofter sound of ''The Process'' was intended by American Recordings to capitalize on the success of NineInchNails.
Nine Inch Nails.
* FreudianTrio: Especially in [[http://www.[[https://www.waste.org/~skumm/AP2.html this interview]], it's easy to see Ogre as TheMcCoy, cEvin as TheSpock TheSpock, and Dwayne as TheKirk.
TheKirk.
* GaiasVengeance: ''Nature's Revenge''"Nature's Revenge."



* HarshVocals: The growling, raspy sound of Ogre's voice arguably counts, helped by the [[IndecipherableLyrics indecipherableness of most of it]]. And they were doing it [[UrExample a while before Metal bands were, to boot.]]
* HemoErotic: Their live shows often involve quite a bit of that, yes.

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* HarshVocals: The growling, raspy sound of Ogre's voice arguably counts, helped by the [[IndecipherableLyrics indecipherableness of most of it]]. And they were doing it [[UrExample a while before Metal bands were, to boot.]]
boot]].
* HemoErotic: Their live shows often involve quite a bit of that, yes.



* {{Instrumentals}}: "Riverz," "Stairs And Flowers," other examples.

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* {{Instrumentals}}: "Riverz," "Stairs And and Flowers," and other examples.



* LighterAndSofter: Arguably their best songs, "Pro-Test," "Testure," "Nature's Revenge" are all more accessible than the majority of their songs and these songs are generally fan favorites.

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* LighterAndSofter: Arguably their best songs, songs: "Pro-Test," "Testure," "Nature's Revenge" Revenge," are all more accessible than the majority of their songs and these songs are generally fan favorites.



* MoodWhiplash: "Scrapyard" has a break in the song with a sample from the move UncleBuck of Buck getting beaned by a bowling ball. And then the song restarts in all its nightmarish glory.
* MrFanservice: Nivek Ogre in a nutshell.
* NewSoundAlbum: "Rabies" was originally seen as one, but now isn't. "The Greater Wrong Of The Right" ''is'' one however.

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* MoodWhiplash: "Scrapyard" has a break in the song with a sample from the move UncleBuck movie Film/UncleBuck of Buck getting beaned by a bowling ball. And then the song restarts in all its nightmarish glory.
* MrFanservice: Nivek Ogre in a nutshell.
nutshell.
* NewSoundAlbum: "Rabies" was originally seen as one, but now isn't. "The Greater Wrong Of The of the Right" ''is'' one however.



* PhraseSaladLyrics: if a song isn't outright WordSaladLyrics, it's this. "Smothered Hope" is a good example.

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* PhraseSaladLyrics: if If a song isn't outright WordSaladLyrics, it's this. "Smothered Hope" is a good example.



* PunBasedTitle: Frequently. "Lust Chance", ''Last Rights'', "Knowhere?", most of the songs from ''The Greater Wrong of the Right'' (even the album title is one!), ''[=VIVIsectVI=]'' (an association of vivisection with SixSixSix), etc.

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* PunBasedTitle: Frequently. "Lust Chance", Chance," ''Last Rights'', "Knowhere?", "Knowhere?," most of the songs from ''The Greater Wrong of the Right'' (even the album title is one!), ''[=VIVIsectVI=]'' (an association of vivisection with SixSixSix), etc.



* {{Sampling}}: Of any bizarre sound (but rarely other songs). Said sample is then warped to be made even ''more'' insane, then is spliced together with all the nasty bits from various Italian horror films, THEN a drumbeat and bassline are added, THEN you have a SkinnyPuppy song.
* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic: Zig Zagged. Their appearance is frightening, but their rig appears harmless... until they play it. On the other hand, Ogre is a legitimately nice person.

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* {{Sampling}}: Of any bizarre sound (but rarely other songs). Said sample is then warped to be made even ''more'' insane, then is spliced together with all the nasty bits from various Italian horror films, [[UsefulNotes/{{Italy}} Italian]] {{horror films}}, THEN a drumbeat and bassline are added, THEN you have a SkinnyPuppy Skinny Puppy song.
* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic: Zig Zagged. Their appearance is frightening, but their rig appears harmless... until Until they play it. On the other hand, Ogre is a legitimately nice person.
21st Mar '15 2:26:46 AM davidverlustus
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* EpicRocking: The live noise jam "Spahn Dirge" is 16 1/2 minutes long. The final track on ''Last Rights'', "Download", while not really so an example of rocking due to the fact that it's mostly ambient, certainly is epic at eleven minutes long.

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* EpicRocking: The live noise jam "Spahn Dirge" is 16 1/2 minutes long. The final track on ''Last Rights'', "Download", while not really so an example of rocking due to the fact that it's mostly ambient, certainly is epic at eleven minutes long. Puppy Gristle also falls into this territory. 40 minutes.
5th Mar '15 12:40:27 PM paulson
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* RealMenEatMeat: Inverted with Key. Ogre was vegetarian until health issues forced him to incorporate meat back into his diet.
3rd Mar '15 7:28:52 AM Willbyr
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SkinnyPuppy are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker for SynthPop) + ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.

SkinnyPuppy were not the first band to take Throbbing Gristle's attitude and approach ElectronicMusic with it. Arguably, ThrobbingGristle did this (albeit their work was more eclectic and less electronic than Skinny Puppy's), and Cabaret Voltaire (as well as many other acts associated with early 80's SynthPop) did it as well. But SkinnyPuppy took these ideas into much DarkerAndEdgier territory and were easily the most influential partly because they had a truly gruesome stage act and never refrained from the use of NightmareFuel.

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SkinnyPuppy are widely considered the band responsible for the more popular vibe {{Industrial}} has today, as opposed earlier Industrial, which was largely inaccessible to the average audience. Basically, they took the experimental and bizzare approach pioneered by bands such as ThrobbingGristle Music/ThrobbingGristle and applied it to almost-entirely electronic music. Unsurprisingly, their first releases, "Remission" and "Bites" (their first full album, released in 1985), sounded like experimental, angry SynthPop. Think of SkinnyPuppy as "Music/{{Kraftwerk}} (TropeMaker for SynthPop) + ThrobbingGristle Music/ThrobbingGristle (TropeMaker for {{Industrial}})" and you'll have a good idea of what they sound like.

SkinnyPuppy were not the first band to take Throbbing Gristle's attitude and approach ElectronicMusic with it. Arguably, ThrobbingGristle Throbbing Gristle did this (albeit their work was more eclectic and less electronic than Skinny Puppy's), and Cabaret Voltaire (as well as many other acts associated with early 80's SynthPop) did it as well. But SkinnyPuppy took these ideas into much DarkerAndEdgier territory and were easily the most influential partly because they had a truly gruesome stage act and never refrained from the use of NightmareFuel.



* XMeetsY: Their sound is arguably ThrobbingGristle meets Music/{{Kraftwerk}}.

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* XMeetsY: Their sound is arguably ThrobbingGristle Music/ThrobbingGristle meets Music/{{Kraftwerk}}.Music/{{Kraftwerk}}.
28th Feb '15 3:41:15 AM Nick98
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: They stay on the higher single-digit levels of the scale, their range being 6-to-9.

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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: They stay on the higher single-digit levels of the scale, their range being 6-to-9. Their harder songs can easily go up to 11, though.
13th Nov '14 4:00:56 PM spirasen
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* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: Subverted, in that they're more Drugs Drugs And Industrial. [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] tragically when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose. This deconstruction is subverted in [[BlackComedy a blackly comic fashion]] by the fact Goettel's overdose occurred in his parent's house rather than in an expensive hotel room or a supermodel's bedroom. OneOfUs indeed.

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* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: Subverted, in that they're more Drugs Drugs And Industrial. [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] tragically when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose. This deconstruction is subverted in [[BlackComedy a blackly comic fashion]] by the fact Goettel's overdose occurred in at his parent's parents' house rather than in an expensive hotel room or a supermodel's bedroom. OneOfUs indeed.
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