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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example).
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Compared to what would follow, ''Considered Dead'' and too a lesser extent, ''The Erosion of Sanity'' are very traditional death metal, as opposed to the band's later work.
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* EpicRocking: Many of their songs, especially post-''Obscura''. Their longest tracks are "Clouded" (9:32) and "Absconders" (9:08).
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* ''Pleiades' Dust'' (2016)
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* ProgressiveMetal: Not on their early material, but arguably by ''Obscura'' and certainly by ''Colored Sands'' they were a prog death metal band.
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* UncommonTime: Plentiful, as is par for the course with TechnicalDeathMetal.
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* UncommonTime: Plentiful, as is par for the course with TechnicalDeathMetal.TechnicalDeathMetal.
* WolverinePublicity: Patrice Hamelin. Basically, if you're from Quebec and play death metal, odds are that he will either join your band or fill in for your drummer live at some point. His unbelievable technical skill and ability to learn large amounts of songs very quickly doesn't hurt either.
* WolverinePublicity: Patrice Hamelin. Basically, if you're from Quebec and play death metal, odds are that he will either join your band or fill in for your drummer live at some point. His unbelievable technical skill and ability to learn large amounts of songs very quickly doesn't hurt either.
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Gorguts are a Canadian [[AvantGardeMetal Avant-Garde]] TechnicalDeathMetal band. They formed in 1989 with Luc Lemay (vocals and guitar), Sylvain Marcoux (guitar), Éric Giguère (bass guitar) and Stephane Provencher (drums) as the original lineup. After a deal struck with Roadrunner with their demo, they released their debut album in 1991, later being released in 2004 along with the sophomore effort following suit.
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Gorguts are a Canadian [[AvantGardeMetal Avant-Garde]] TechnicalDeathMetal band. They formed in 1989 with Luc Lemay (vocals and guitar), Sylvain Marcoux (guitar), Éric Giguère (bass guitar) and Stephane Provencher (drums) as the original lineup. After a deal struck with Roadrunner with their demo, they released their debut album in 1991, later being released in 2004 along with the sophomore effort following suit. \n The first two albums are old-school death metal and are regarded as atypical efforts for the band, although many fans still regard them very highly.
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* BreatherEpisode[=/=]AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent[=/=]GenreAdultery: "The Battle of Chamdo" uses a string quartet instead of the usual distorted guitar/bass/drums instrumentation of death metal. It's still dissonant and creepy, though.
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* BreatherEpisode[=/=]AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent[=/=]GenreAdultery: AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent[=/=]GenreAdultery: "The Battle of Chamdo" uses a string quartet instead of the usual distorted guitar/bass/drums instrumentation of death metal. It's still dissonant and creepy, though. "Clouded" also counts, being so slow in tempo that it could be considered a [[DoomMetal Death/Doom]] song.
* BreatherEpisode: "The Battle of Chamdo" again, sort of.
* BreatherEpisode: "The Battle of Chamdo" again, sort of.
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* EpicRocking: Many of their songs, especially post ''Obscura''.post-''Obscura''. Their longest tracks are "Clouded" (9:32) and "Absconders" (9:08).
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Generally in the 10 area, with ''Obscura'' being the hardest out of the lot due to its noisiness.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Generally in the hard 10 area, with ''Obscura'' being the hardest out of the lot due to its noisiness.noisiness. Portions of their works could be considered to reach 11.
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* TechnicalDeathMetal: Of the strange, noisy, dissonant type.
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* TechnicalDeathMetal: Of the strange, noisy, dissonant type.type, for which they are generally considered to be the {{Trope Codifier}}s.
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* SiameseTwinSongs: "Obscura" -> "Earthly Love"; "The Quest for Equilibrium" -> "Unearthing the Past"; "Elusive Treasures" -> "[[GratuitousGerman Das Martyrium des...]]". Interestingly, despite being on opposite sides of the LP, "The Quest for Equilibrium" and "Unearthing the Past" remain SiameseTwinSongs on the LP version, which means that there is a sudden cutoff at the end of side 1 (but also means that a person ripping the vinyl can preserve the SiameseTwinSongs in their rip).
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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example).
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Negativa was intended to be this. Steeve Hurdle and (for a time) Luc Lemay were both members (Lemay left and reformed Gorguts because he wasn't as interested in the improvisational elements of Negativa's music). Unfortunately, Hurdle's death put a stop to that. The band did release one twenty-minute EP, which is pretty great.
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* LoudnessWar: Played straight on the CD versions of ''Obscura'' and ''From Wisdom to Hate'', which is likely intended to make the sound of those albums even more dense and impenetrable, but averted on the LP versions. Also averted on ''Colored Sands'', which probably isn't much of a surprise to anyone familiar with Colin Marston's mastering on other bands' works.
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* PromotedFanboy: Longstreth, Marston, and Hufnagel.
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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Colored Sands'' had five years worth of development before it came to fruition.
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* ConceptAlbum: ''Colored Sands'' explores Tibet and its relation to the outside world.
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* UncommonTime: Plentiful, as is par for the course with TechnicalDeathMetal.
* UncommonTime: Plentiful, as is par for the course with TechnicalDeathMetal.
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As of March 2014, John Longstreth is no longer a member, as his schedule with Origin was incompatible with that of Gorguts. Patrice Hamelin will be manning the kit for all upcoming tours, but it's not clear as to whether he'll join as a full-time member or not.
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In 1993, activity ceased until 1998, with Obscura being released, with Lemay being the only original member left. When Hurdle left, Lemay got yet another new lineup. Steve [=MacDonald=] commited suicide in 2002, leading to Gorguts' split.
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In 1993, activity ceased until 1998, with Obscura ''Obscura'' being released, with Lemay being the only original member left. When Hurdle left, Lemay got yet another new lineup. Steve [=MacDonald=] commited suicide in 2002, leading to Gorguts' split.
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* StartMyOwn: Negativa was originally the SpiritualSuccessor of Gorguts before Hurdle decided to change musical directions when he left, leading to the resurrection of Gorguts.Gorguts by Lemay.
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* MohsScaleOFRockAndMetalHardness: Generally in the 10 are, with ''Obscura'' being the hardest out of the lot due to it's noisiness.
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* PromotedFanboy: Longstreth, Marston, and Hufnagel.
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* StartMyOwn: Negativa was originally the SpiritualSuccessor of Gorguts before Hurdle decided to change musical directions when he left.
left, leading to the resurrection of Gorguts.
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[=MacDonald=] commited suicide in 2002, leading to Gorguts' split.
In 2008, however, Lemay reformed the band with yet another new lineup. Within that time up till 2013, they had been working on new material, which was leaked 2 months in advance, with Label Season of Mist releasing a digital release a month after.
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Gorguts are a Canadian [[AvantGardeMetal Avant-Garde]] TechnicalDeathMetal band.
band. They formed in 1989 with Luc Lemay (vocals and guitar), Sylvain Marcoux (guitar), Éric Giguère (bass guitar) and Stephane Provencher (drums) as the original lineup. After a deal struck with Roadrunner with their demo, they released their debut album in 1991, later being released in 2004 along with the sophomore effort following suit.
In 1993, activity ceased until 1998, with Obscura being released, with Lemay being the only original member left. When Hurdle left, Lemay got yet another new lineup. Steve MacDonald
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* Steve MacDonald (RIP 2002) – drums (1993–1995, 1998–2002)
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* NewSoundAlbum:
** Starting with ''Obscura'', they ditched the oldschool sound from the previous albums to their style of techdeath.
** ''From Wisdom to Hate'' mixed elements of both ''Obscura'' and the two older albums before the latter.
* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Colored Sands'' had five years worth of development before it came to fruition.
* SignatureStyle: Dissonant riffs overlapping with avantgarde style music that happens to be loud and screechy to obtain a sound of uniqueness.
* SpecialGuest: [[Music/{{Death}} James Murphy]] and [[Music/CannibalCorpse Chris Barnes]] on ''Considered Dead'', as well as a group of classical musicians on ''Colored Sands''.
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* TechnicalDeathMetal: Of the strange, noisy, and dissonant type.
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* NewSoundAlbum:
** Starting with ''Obscura'', they ditched the oldschool sound from the previous albums to their style of techdeath.
** ''From Wisdom to Hate'' mixed elements of both ''Obscura'' and the two older albums before the latter.
* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Colored Sands'' had five years worth of development before it came to fruition.
* SignatureStyle: Dissonant riffs overlapping with avantgarde style music that happens to be loud and screechy to obtain a sound of uniqueness.
* SpecialGuest: [[Music/{{Death}} James Murphy]] and [[Music/CannibalCorpse Chris Barnes]] on ''Considered Dead'', as well as a group of classical musicians on ''Colored Sands''.
* StartMyOwn: Negativa was originally the SpiritualSuccessor of Gorguts before Hurdle decided to change musical directions when he left.
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Gorguts are a Canadian [[AvantGardeMetal Avant-Garde]] TechnicalDeathMetal band.
!!!Members
* Luc Lemay – vocals, guitar (1989–2005, 2008–present)
* Kevin Hufnagel – guitar (2009–present)
* Colin Marston – bass guitar (2009–present)
* John Longstreth – drums (2009–present)
!!!Notable Past Members
!!!Discography
* ''Considered Dead'' (1991)
* ''The Erosion of Sanity'' (1993)
* ''Obscura'' (1998)
* ''From Wisdom to Hate'' (2001)
* ''Colored Sands'' (2013)
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!!This band provides the examples of the following:
* AvantGardeMetal
* IAmTheBand: Luc Lemay
* MohsScaleOFRockAndMetalHardness: Generally 10, with ''Obscura'' being the hardest out of the lot due to it's noisiness.
* TechnicalDeathMetal
!!!Members
* Luc Lemay – vocals, guitar (1989–2005, 2008–present)
* Kevin Hufnagel – guitar (2009–present)
* Colin Marston – bass guitar (2009–present)
* John Longstreth – drums (2009–present)
!!!Notable Past Members
!!!Discography
* ''Considered Dead'' (1991)
* ''The Erosion of Sanity'' (1993)
* ''Obscura'' (1998)
* ''From Wisdom to Hate'' (2001)
* ''Colored Sands'' (2013)
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!!This band provides the examples of the following:
* AvantGardeMetal
* IAmTheBand: Luc Lemay
* MohsScaleOFRockAndMetalHardness: Generally 10, with ''Obscura'' being the hardest out of the lot due to it's noisiness.
* TechnicalDeathMetal
