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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.

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* The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.

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* The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs shrugs it off''.off.



* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'':
** Carcer is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"
** Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being the only man who would dream of actually employing a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as is the method of getting them to confess. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, who would never have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers and thugs who work for him recognize that in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from the other direction.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
sadistic.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'':
** Carcer is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"
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Captain Findthee Swing (chief of from ''Discworld/NightWatch'', the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being leader of [[SecretPolice the only man who would dream of actually employing a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as Unmentionables]], is the method of getting them to confess. reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, TautologicalTemplar who would never uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers physically and thugs who work for him recognize mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from to fight Swing to the other direction.death.
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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard.

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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising realizing he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Even He horrifies even hardened criminals who've who’ve earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him.murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, unrest; he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
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** We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being the only man who would dream of actually ''employing'' a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as is the method of getting them to confess. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, who would never have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers and thugs who work for him recognize that in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from the other direction.

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** We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being the only man who would dream of actually ''employing'' employing a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as is the method of getting them to confess. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, who would never have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers and thugs who work for him recognize that in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from the other direction.
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The Discworld series has seen quite a few {{Complete Monster}}s through its run.

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The Discworld series LongRunningBookSeries ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' has seen quite a few {{Complete Monster}}s through its run.among the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.
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** We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'').

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** We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being the only man who would dream of actually ''employing'' a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as is the method of getting them to confess. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, who would never have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers and thugs who work for him recognize that in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from the other direction.
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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him parents died only to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him.suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' instant they're not ''currently'' currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior behaviour is WRONG]].wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
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* ''Discworld/NightWatch'':
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Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.



* We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.

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* ** We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.Unmentionables]]'').

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* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the internal pressures of its own mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all.



* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].



* Also from the ''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.
** Who hired Carcer.
* ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'' makes no bones about calling Andy [[MeaningfulName Shank]] a psychopath.
* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile). Vimes said this about his ancestor killing Lorenzo: "it wasn't even execution. You execute a human being. You ''slaughter'' an animal."

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* Also from the ''Night Watch'', We also have Carcer's employer: Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.
** Who hired Carcer.
* ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'' makes no bones about calling Andy [[MeaningfulName Shank]] a psychopath.
* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile). Vimes said this about his ancestor killing Lorenzo: "it wasn't even execution. You execute a human being. You ''slaughter'' an animal."
TortureTechnician.
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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]



-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewelry in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"

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-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewelry jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"

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* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the internal pressures of its own mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.

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* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the internal pressures of its own mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.



* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
** The fact that [[WorfEffect Angua]] is the only one who can scare him reveals a lot about abilities she doesn't normally use in Ankh-Morpork.

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
** The fact that [[WorfEffect Angua]] is the only one who can scare him reveals a lot about abilities she doesn't normally use in Ankh-Morpork.
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* The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just deserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (his more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha, upon his own death, finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later and offers to guide him across.

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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]



* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]].Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.
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* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.

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* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its own mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.
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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]

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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).

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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile). Vimes said this about his ancestor killing Lorenzo: "it wasn't even execution. You execute a human being. You ''slaughter'' an animal."

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]]]
** The fact that [[WorfEffect Angua]] is the only one who can scare him reveals a lot about abilities she doesn't normally use in Ankh-Morpork.
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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).

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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
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* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]''As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.

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* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]''As ]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
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* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here....]]''As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.

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* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here....here...]]''As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god...never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.
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* Also, the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.

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* Also, the The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.

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* Also, the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.
* Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.
* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god...never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild.
* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].



* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god...never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
** Although, contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.
*** Keep in mind, though, that Teatime is not someone you want to even mildly annoy.
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
* Going back to ''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god...never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
** Although, contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.
*** Keep in mind, though, that Teatime is not someone you want to even mildly annoy.
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]
Also from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
* Going back to
''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.



* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* Also, the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.



* Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
* A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.
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* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here....]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.

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* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here....]]'' As ]]''As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.



* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
** Although contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact that he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
** Although Although, contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.



* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf, and as such is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest, and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister sister, Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf, and werewolf and, as such such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest, forest and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]



* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* Also the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', understandably since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.

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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a turtle(not turtle (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over over, and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
* Also Also, the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', understandably ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.



* A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath ''and she deserves it''.
* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
* The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just deserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.

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* A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be the scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath AFateWorseThanDeath, ''and she deserves it''.
* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] Kind]], definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
* The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just deserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His (his more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha Brutha, upon his own death death, finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, later and offers to guide him across.
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* The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just desserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.

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* The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just desserts.deserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.
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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last kind of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).

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* While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last kind king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Inquisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]

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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Inquisition.Quisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]

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The Discworld series has seen quite a few {{Complete Monster}}s through its run.
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** [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
*** Although contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.
**** Keep in mind, though, that Teatime is not someone you want to even mildly annoy.
** [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf, and as such is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest, and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
** Going back to ''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.
*** Who, of course, hired Carcer.
** ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Inquisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
** Also the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', understandably since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.
** ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'' makes no bones about calling Andy [[MeaningfulName Shank]] a psychopath.
** Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
** A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath ''and she deserves it''.
** While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last kind of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
** The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just desserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.

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** * [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
*** ** Although contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.
**** *** Keep in mind, though, that Teatime is not someone you want to even mildly annoy.
** * [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf, and as such is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest, and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
** * Going back to ''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.
*** ** Who, of course, hired Carcer.
** * ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Inquisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
** * Also the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', understandably since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.
** * ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'' makes no bones about calling Andy [[MeaningfulName Shank]] a psychopath.
** * Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
** * A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath ''and she deserves it''.
** * While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last kind of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
** * The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just desserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.
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* Carcer from the ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here....]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewelry in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"
** [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Oh dear god... never mind the fact he's a SelfMadeOrphan, what's terrifying is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand his sadistic behavior is WRONG]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. Even hardened criminals who've earned their reputation on murder are horrified by him. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the ''instant'' they're not ''currently'' useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lockpicker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. Oh, and his name is [[ItIsPronouncedTroPAY pronounced "Te-ah-tim-eh"]]. And don't you ever forget it!
*** Although contrary to all his other actions, he only gets mildly annoyed when people mispronounce his name.
**** Keep in mind, though, that Teatime is not someone you want to even mildly annoy.
** [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is pretty despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister Elsa, because she isn't a full werewolf, and as such is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. Oh, and his favourite game is hunting humans through a forest, and [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest, he just likes being a sadistic bastard. Then he messed with [[{{Badass}} Vimes...]]
** Going back to ''Night Watch'', Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]'') and his (unnamed) TortureTechnician.
*** Who, of course, hired Carcer.
** ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Inquisition. He also encounters a turtle(not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over and wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: He tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realising he got the wrong tortoise.]]
** Also the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', understandably since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.
** ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'' makes no bones about calling Andy [[MeaningfulName Shank]] a psychopath.
** Mr Pin and Mr Tulip from ''The Truth'' also qualify. Mr Pin, at least, is unforgivably monstrous. Still, [[spoiler:when even Death himself is mad with you, you know that you're in trouble]].
** A definite case could be made for Lady Lilith, the villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. What she does to people -- make their lives "follow stories" -- is presented as an atrocity in the books, particularly in the case of the Big Bad Wolf, which has become stuck between human and animal and is going crazy with loneliness, fear, guilt, and the own internal pressures of its mind, such that it begs Granny for death. Baron Saturday, who was the ruler of the city before Lilith, is presented as "not a good man" and has done his share of terrible things, but he is considered more acceptable than her and he is himself upset by her methods. She freely chose to become evil -- and because she did, Granny was forced into being good, to balance it, so her backstory doesn't justify her crimes. She also never regrets her crimes because ''she doesn't actually understand what's evil about what she's done'', which can be scariest of all. And her fate -- [[spoiler:being condemned to an eternity of running through the mirror world, trying to find her true self]] -- is absolutely AFateWorseThanDeath ''and she deserves it''.
** While not a character shown during the present of the series, the last kind of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo [[IronicNickname the Kind]] definitely seems to have been one. He's basically strongly implied to have gotten his kicks torturing a lot of people, and the reason for his nickname was his "love of children" (i.e. he was a pedophile).
** The series usually avoids mentioning the final fate of its characters. The dead are seen as brief shades, fading away when Death meets them, and sometimes being led across a vast desert to some unknown afterlife, but the details of where they ultimately go are never addressed. However, Mr. Pratchett sometimes makes a point of indicating the final fate of his worst villains, in order to give the reader the satisfaction of knowing they've had their just desserts. Mr. Pin, who repeatedly exclaims that he "wasn't born to fry", is karmically reincarnated as a potato which is destined for the frying pan (His more sympathetic partner becomes a woodworm, but as he is an art hobbyist and occupies a finely-wrought desk, it's implied he enjoys this existence somewhat). Lilith, as stated above, is trapped in a mirror forever, deprived of her sense of self. And Vorbis, who is so self-righteous that he interprets everything around him according to his twisted perception, finds himself in that vast desert and realises that he doesn't believe in ''anything'' besides himself, and thus has no afterlife to approach, [[TheNothingAfterDeath nothing awaiting him at all]]. As an indication of his true [[TheMessiah Messianic tendencies]], Brutha upon his own death finds Vorbis in this piteous state many years later, and offers to guide him across.
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