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The LongRunningBookSeries ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' has seen quite a few {{Complete Monster}}s among the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.

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* ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'': Lady Felmet is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. Unlike most ''Discworld'' villains, the Duchess is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
* ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' has [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'': [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'': Captain Findthee Swing, the leader of [[SecretPolice the Unmentionables]], is the reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is a TautologicalTemplar who uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been physically and mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in to fight Swing to the death.

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The LongRunningBookSeries ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' has seen quite a few {{Complete Monster}}s among the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.

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* ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'': Lady Felmet is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. Unlike most ''Discworld'' villains, the Duchess is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
* ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' has [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]]. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'': [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'': Captain Findthee Swing, the leader of [[SecretPolice the Unmentionables]], is the reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is a TautologicalTemplar who uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been physically and mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in to fight Swing to the death.

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25th May '14 8:47:54 PM Willbyr
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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. Unlike most ''Discworld'' villains, the Duchess is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
* Captain Findthee Swing from ''Discworld/NightWatch'', the leader of [[SecretPolice the Unmentionables]], is the reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is a TautologicalTemplar who uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been physically and mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in to fight Swing to the death.

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* ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'': Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. Unlike most ''Discworld'' villains, the Duchess is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
* ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' has [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''.Teatime]]. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'': [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'': Captain Findthee Swing from ''Discworld/NightWatch'', Swing, the leader of [[SecretPolice the Unmentionables]], is the reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is a TautologicalTemplar who uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been physically and mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in to fight Swing to the death.death.
20th Feb '14 1:51:55 PM randomtroper89
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* ''Discworld/SmallGods'' has [[SinisterMinister Vorbis]], whose main claim to fame is improving the efficiency of the Quisition. He also encounters a tortoise (not knowing it was secretly the god, Om), turns it over, wedges it up with stones, and makes a mental note to see what happened in a few hours. Om reflected how different Vorbis would have acted if he knew it was Om, then remembers looking into his mind, and decides that was the sort of person who would put God on his back, just to see what happened. We later find out exactly how Vorbis would act: [[spoiler: he tries to kill Om by throwing him overarm into the rocks, not realizing he got the wrong tortoise.]]
16th Feb '14 7:44:45 PM Lightysnake
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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. By the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her.

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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. By Unlike most ''Discworld'' villains, the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her. is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
10th Feb '14 7:13:52 AM randomtroper89
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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. By the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her.

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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. By the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her.
9th Feb '14 11:51:04 AM TVRulezAgain
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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Wyrd Sisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. By the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her.

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* Lady Felmet of the novel ''Wyrd Sisters'' ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. By the end, Duchess Felmet has done so much damage to the kingdom that the land itself rises up against her.
9th Feb '14 11:33:02 AM ACW
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* Lady Felmet the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off.

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* *Lady Felmet of the novel ''Wyrd Sisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only multitudes more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a sadist who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. By the end, Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes Felmet has done so much damage to the mental walls she put up and shows her all kingdom that the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off.land itself rises up against her.
5th Feb '14 3:43:13 PM randomtroper89
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* The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off.

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* The Lady Felmet the Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off.
5th Feb '14 7:26:24 AM randomtroper89
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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.

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* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName [[FantasticRacism "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
5th Feb '14 7:22:35 AM randomtroper89
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* The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs it off''.

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* The Duchess from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters''; understandably, since she's ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' who is based on LadyMacbeth. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she ''shrugs shrugs it off''.off.



* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'':
** Carcer is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"
** Captain Swing (chief of the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being the only man who would dream of actually employing a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as is the method of getting them to confess. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, who would never have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers and thugs who work for him recognize that in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from the other direction.

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* [[AxCrazy Jonathan Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died only to suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is sent to kill someone, he will mercilessly slaughter them, their family, and their pets. He kills any accomplices he has the instant they're not currently useful to him, not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behaviour behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death
* [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wolfgang Von Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is despicable. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is [[ANaziByAnyOtherName "impure"]]. He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]] and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't give a damn about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being a sadistic bastard.
sadistic.
* ''Discworld/NightWatch'':
** Carcer is definitely one of these. ''[[MoralEventHorizon I can see your house from up here...]]'' As [[TheHero Vimes]] puts it, some people have GoodAngelBadAngel. Carcer has two competing bad angels.
-->"He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back"
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Captain Findthee Swing (chief of from ''Discworld/NightWatch'', the ''[[SecretPolice Unmentionables]]''). In addition to being leader of [[SecretPolice the only man who would dream of actually employing a man like Carcer, Swing operates a system in which everyone is guilty by virtue of being suspected. What they are guilty of is merely a fine detail, as Unmentionables]], is the method of getting them to confess. reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is arguably more monstrous than Carcer; he is described as a brilliant man, TautologicalTemplar who would never uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as AxCrazy SerialKiller Carcer Dun, as good and his enemies and victims, like GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes, as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been employed in the Unmentionables normally, but the torturers physically and thugs who work for him recognize mentally tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in some way, he arrived at brutal thuggishness from to fight Swing to the other direction.death.
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