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* In the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, for members of[[OurMagesAreDifferent the Mage Association]] it is traditional that the child of a Magus will follow them in their position, as magecraft can usuallly only be inhereted along bloodlines. \\

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* In the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, for members of[[OurMagesAreDifferent of [[OurMagesAreDifferent the Mage Association]] it is traditional that the child of a Magus will follow them in their position, as magecraft can usuallly only be inhereted along bloodlines. \\bloodlines.


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** At the end of both the ''[[UpdatedRerelease Realta Nua]]'' version of ''[[Anime/FateStayNight Fate/Stay Night]]'' and in the {{Creator/Ufotable}} adaptation of the route ''[[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Unlimited Blade Works]]'', Rin tells Shirou that she'll join him in WalkingTheEarth and anywhere he goes, breaking with tradition of attending [[WizardingSchool the Clock Tower]] and focusing on research as would be expected of a Magus.

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* In the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, [[OurMagesAreDifferent the Mage Association]] rules that Mage families can only have one heir in each generation that will inherit the family's Magic Crest, the source of the family's magic abilities. The parent must teach their child about magic as each family has a different type of magic unique to them and there are no {{Wizarding School}}s for children (just a research university). In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', [[TheAce Rin]] is the heir of the wealthy and influential Tohsaka family. Due to being a haughty prodigy and wanting to live up to her family name in place of her late father Tokiomi, she has high hopes of being a successful mage. At the beginning of the story, she chooses to help Shirou in the Holy Grail War because she feels guilty over getting him involved in this mess even though the rules are to kill any {{muggle}} witnesses (though she doesn't give him courtesy until a little later in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' route), which is the first major decision by Rin to step away from Mage traditions. Later, when [[TheHero Shirou]] reveals to her that [[ParentalSubstitute his adopted father]], [[PosthumousCharacter Kiritsugu]], only taught him the basics and not any spells, Rin admonishes Kiritsugu's decision because it goes against Mage expectations. This is {{foreshadowing}} ''Heaven's Feel''. [[spoiler:When Rin got deathly ill as an infant, her parents had another child as a back-up heir, who would be Sakura. When Rin ended up surviving, Tokiomi gave up Sakura to the Tohsaka's old allies, the Matou family, as both Rin and Sakura were both very magic-potent, which could risk getting unwanted attention from magical creatures and [[TheyWouldCutYouUp the Mage Association]], he didn't want Rin and Sakura to have to fight each other for the Magic Crest, and he didn't want Sakura's magic potential to go to waste if they were to keep her but not teach her magic. Rin spends the rest of ''Heaven's Feel'' being distant and hostile to Sakura in an attempt to follow the rule that the two aren't supposed to associate anymore, and even [[KickTheDog calls her weak for giving in to the Matou's abuse]]. It culminates in the two attempting to kill each other in the climax, only for Rin to falter and admit to Sakura that she still loves her and that she would've broken the rules to save her if she had known about Sakura's situation earlier.]]
** At the end of the ''[[UpdatedRerelease Realta Nua]]'' version of/the [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks 2015 anime adaptation of]] ''[[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Unlimited Blade Works]]'', Rin tells Shirou that she'll join him in WalkingTheEarth and anywhere he goes, despite them finally attending [[WizardingSchool the Clock Tower]] as she had wanted.
** The prequel, ''LightNovel/FateZero'', also reveals that [[HonorBeforeReason sticking to tradition]] and not adapting to changes in conduct (i.e. fighting dirty) is ultimately what gets Tokiomi killed, as [[spoiler:he is literally stabbed in the back by his apprentice, Kirei.]]
** Also from ''Fate/Zero'', [[TokenGoodTeammate Kariya Matou]] was the only magic heir in the Matou family for a long time, but he left due to [[AbusiveParent abuse from his father Zouken]] and subsequently never learned magic. He also didn't marry [[TheOneThatGotAway Aoi]] partly because he didn't want her to end up like [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Shinji's mother]].

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* In the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, [[OurMagesAreDifferent for members of[[OurMagesAreDifferent the Mage Association]] rules that Mage families can only have one heir in each generation that will inherit the family's Magic Crest, the source of the family's magic abilities. The parent must teach their child about magic as each family has a different type of magic unique to them and there are no {{Wizarding School}}s for children (just a research university). In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', [[TheAce Rin]] it is the heir of the wealthy and influential Tohsaka family. Due to being a haughty prodigy and wanting to live up to her family name in place of her late father Tokiomi, she has high hopes of being a successful mage. At the beginning of the story, she chooses to help Shirou in the Holy Grail War because she feels guilty over getting him involved in this mess even though the rules are to kill any {{muggle}} witnesses (though she doesn't give him courtesy until a little later in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' route), which is the first major decision by Rin to step away from Mage traditions. Later, when [[TheHero Shirou]] reveals to her that [[ParentalSubstitute his adopted father]], [[PosthumousCharacter Kiritsugu]], only taught him the basics and not any spells, Rin admonishes Kiritsugu's decision because it goes against Mage expectations. This is {{foreshadowing}} ''Heaven's Feel''. [[spoiler:When Rin got deathly ill as an infant, her parents had another child as a back-up heir, who would be Sakura. When Rin ended up surviving, Tokiomi gave up Sakura to the Tohsaka's old allies, the Matou family, as both Rin and Sakura were both very magic-potent, which could risk getting unwanted attention from magical creatures and [[TheyWouldCutYouUp the Mage Association]], he didn't want Rin and Sakura to have to fight each other for the Magic Crest, and he didn't want Sakura's magic potential to go to waste if they were to keep her but not teach her magic. Rin spends the rest of ''Heaven's Feel'' being distant and hostile to Sakura in an attempt to follow the rule traditional that the two aren't supposed to associate anymore, and even [[KickTheDog calls her weak for giving child of a Magus will follow them in to the Matou's abuse]]. It culminates in the two attempting to kill each other in the climax, their position, as magecraft can usuallly only for Rin to falter and admit to Sakura that she still loves her and that she would've broken the rules to save her if she had known about Sakura's situation earlier.]]
** At the end of the ''[[UpdatedRerelease Realta Nua]]'' version of/the [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks 2015 anime adaptation of]] ''[[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Unlimited Blade Works]]'', Rin tells Shirou that she'll join him in WalkingTheEarth and anywhere he goes, despite them finally attending [[WizardingSchool the Clock Tower]] as she had wanted.
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** Also from ''Fate/Zero'',
[[TokenGoodTeammate Kariya Matou]] was breaks with this, leaving the only magic heir in the Matou family for a long time, but he left due to [[AbusiveParent abuse from his father "grandfather" Zouken]] and subsequently never learned magic. He also didn't marry Ultimately subverted when [[EvilOldFolks Zouken]] manages to force him back into the family by threatening Sakura, the child of [[TheOneThatGotAway Aoi]] partly because he didn't want her to end up like [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Shinji's mother]].Aoi]], whom Kariya is still in love with.
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* Raoh of ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' is the eldest brother of the protagonist Kenshiro, along with Toki, his biological brother Toki and and other adopted brother Jagi. After Kenshiro is named the 64th successor of Hokuto Shinken, a legendary martial art of assassination, Raoh chooses to defies those laws, which requires those who are not named successor to have their fists sealed or memories of it erased, for his own ends and ambition. Both Toki and Kenshiro, who both take the traditions of Hokuto Shinken very seriously, and would fight him in the course of the manga.

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* Raoh of ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' is the eldest brother of the protagonist Kenshiro, along with Toki, his biological brother Toki brother, and and the other adopted brother Jagi. After Kenshiro is named the 64th successor of Hokuto Shinken, a legendary martial art of assassination, Raoh chooses to defies those laws, which requires those who are not named successor to have their fists sealed or memories of it erased, for his own ends and ambition. Both Toki and Kenshiro, who both take the traditions of Hokuto Shinken very seriously, and would fight him in the course of the manga.
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* This is Batman's origin story in ''Film/BatmanBegins''. Recruited by the League of Shadows, Bruce Wayne quickly becomes their star pupil, believing he's finally found a group of people who share his passion for fighting crime and can give him the training and tools to do so effectively. However, he abandons them when he rejects their final exam, [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten which required him to execute a captured and imprisoned thief]]. The eventual discovery that they're a [[KnightTemplar fundamentalist cult]], who may claim to fight crime, but whose real purpose is to burn down any civilization they view as having become too corrupt and decadent, didn't help either.


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* Very common in ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
** The list of people to whom this applies is far too long to post here, but suffice it to say that the most common origin story for the Sith (especially for main characters) is that they're Jedi who rejected the order at some point when they fell to the dark side. Most of the time, these fallen Jedi will be recruited by existing Sith, or flee to join their ranks. Occasionally, however, this happens even when the Sith Order is extinct, and the fallen Jedi will effectively resurrect it all by himself. Finally, there are also the Jedi who have fallen to the dark side without becoming Sith Lords.
** Played with in ''[[Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy I, Jedi]]''. The Jensaarai Order started out like this: a Jedi found a text purporting to contain hidden history and Force techniques, fell to the dark side, and started his own order (the text was actually left behind by now-dead Sith Lords to induce this exact result). However, once the Jedi had killed him and his most accomplished supporters, the remaining ones were too new to the order to have have really committed to the dark side, and without anybody to guide them, were left to advance on their own as best they knew how... which they did by setting themselves up as an order of protectors for the population of their planet, effectively becoming a localized Jedi Order. Both the founder of the Jensaarai and his followers were effectively rejecting their tradition, but the latter did so unknowingly, and the former under false pretenses.
** In a less drastic sense, Luke Skywalker's new Jedi Order can be seen this way. It doesn't follow the dark side, and it mostly tries to honor the Jedi tradition, but Luke did do away with the former order's prohibition on attachments, allowing his members to marry and have families. (Then again, the prohibition on attachments wasn't always the norm; it existed during the late Republic era, but earlier Jedi had no such rule, and even in more recent times there were some exceptions).
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'': Inversion, when the titular character meets Mandalorians who aren't part of his fundamentalist tribe in "The Heiress" it turns out that they don't follow the tradition of keeping their helmets on in the presence of anyone outside their immediate family. They ridicule him in fact.
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* Season 4, episode 26 of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."

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* Season 4, episode 26 of In the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that episode "Redemption, Part II", Chancellor Gowron offers Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family.responsible for disgracing House Mogh. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."
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* Raoh of ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' is the eldest brother of the protagonist Kenshiro, along with Toki, his biological brother Toki and and other adopted brother Jagi. After Kenshiro is named the 64th successor of Hokuto Shinken, a legendary martial art of assassination, Raoh chooses to defies those laws, which requires those who are not named successor to have their fists sealed or memories of it erased, for his own ends and ambition. Both Toki and Kenshiro, who both take the traditions of Hokuto Shinken very seriously, and would fight him in the course of the manga.
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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth and in some cases, wants some [[IJustWantToBeNormal normalcy in their life]]. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel, and feels they don't fit in. If a character wants to romance someone of a different race, the relationship in question with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]] will cause a lot of problems. This is ''very common'' with royalty the prince or princess who will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off.

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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth and in some cases, wants some [[IJustWantToBeNormal normalcy in their life]]. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel, and feels they don't fit in.in, or in a worse case scenario, pulls a FaceHeelTurn. If a character wants to romance someone of a different race, the relationship in question with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]] will cause a lot of problems. This is ''very common'' with royalty the prince or princess who will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off.
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* There is an episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."

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* There is an Season 4, episode 26 of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."
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This is also, tragically, one of the primary reasons [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil an evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters, as it conflicts their own. Or if the pupil is a good guy, but finds the traditions of his master's laws as outdated. In any case, it can cause a case of ValuesDissonance.

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This is also, tragically, one of the primary reasons [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil an evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters, as it conflicts their own. Or if the pupil is a good guy, but finds the traditions of his master's laws as outdated. In any case, it can cause a case of ValuesDissonance.
DeliberateValuesDissonance.
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** In 1st Nephi, Nephi's brothers, Laman and Lamuel, are rebellious, they are willing to kill Nephi just because he follows his father's visions. When they went to the Americas, they try to kill him. Nephi at that point was warned ahead of time and formed his own nation, while Laman and Lamuel become the Lamanites who abandoned everything for which their father stood.

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** In 1st Nephi, Nephi's brothers, Laman and Lamuel, are rebellious, they rebellious sons of their prophet father Lehi. They are willing to kill Nephi just because he follows his father's visions. When they went to the Americas, they try to kill him. Nephi at that point was warned ahead of time and formed his own nation, while Laman and Lamuel become the Lamanites who abandoned everything for which their father stood.
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It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, as a character who originally belonged to a ProudWarriorRace dislikes the BloodKnight tendencies of their brethren or feels their race is too blood-thirsty for their liking.

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It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, as a character who originally belonged to a ProudWarriorRace dislikes the BloodKnight tendencies of their brethren or feels their race is too blood-thirsty for their liking.
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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth and in some cases, wants some [[IJustWantToBeNormal normalcy in their life]]. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel. If a character wants to romance someone of a different race, the relationship in question with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. This is ''very common'' with royalty the prince or princess who will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off.

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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth and in some cases, wants some [[IJustWantToBeNormal normalcy in their life]]. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel. rebel, and feels they don't fit in. If a character wants to romance someone of a different race, the relationship in question with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]].despise]] will cause a lot of problems. This is ''very common'' with royalty the prince or princess who will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off.

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Your Tradition is Not Mine is a situation where either a WhiteSheep or the BlackSheep of the family does not intend to uphold their family traditions, and simply wants to start a new life for themselves. Their parents will scorn them for this, and try to get them to change their mind for the better.

A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel, and if they are of a different race, in a relationship with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. For royalty, the prince or princess will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off. It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil An evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters.

Drama will definitely ensue.

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Your Tradition is Not Mine is a A character's situation where either a WhiteSheep or the BlackSheep of the family or race does not intend to uphold their family traditions, and simply wants to start a new life for themselves. themselves or form their own traditions. Their parents and friends will scorn them for this, and try to get them to change their mind for the better.

A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, or so forth. forth and in some cases, wants some [[IJustWantToBeNormal normalcy in their life]]. A BlackSheep is likely to not be a religious devotee, a teen rebel, and if they are rebel. If a character wants to romance someone of a different race, in a the relationship in question with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. For royalty, This is ''very common'' with royalty the prince or princess who will ''definitely'' have issues with their higher-authority parent. And sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off. It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil An evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters.

Drama It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch, as a character who originally belonged to a ProudWarriorRace dislikes the BloodKnight tendencies of their brethren or feels their race is too blood-thirsty for their liking.

This is also, tragically, one of the primary reasons [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil an evil apprentice]]
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have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters, as it conflicts their own. Or if the pupil is a good guy, but finds the traditions of his master's laws as outdated. In any case, it can cause a case of ValuesDissonance.

This is often the source of drama and the conflict surrounding the characters that know them.
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* In the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, [[OurMagesAreDifferent the Mage Association]] rules that Mage families can only have one heir in each generation that will inherit the family's Magic Crest, the source of the family's magic abilities. The parent must teach their child about magic as each family has a different type of magic unique to them and there are no {{Wizarding School}}s for children (just a research university). In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', [[TheAce Rin]] is the heir of the wealthy and influential Tohsaka family. Due to being a haughty prodigy and wanting to live up to her family name in place of her late father Tokiomi, she has high hopes of being a successful mage. At the beginning of the story, she chooses to help Shirou in the Holy Grail War because she feels guilty over getting him involved in this mess even though the rules are to kill any {{muggle}} witnesses (though she doesn't give him courtesy until a little later in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' route), which is the first major decision by Rin to step away from Mage traditions. Later, when [[TheHero Shirou]] reveals to her that [[ParentalSubstitute his adopted father]], [[PosthumousCharacter Kiritsugu]], only taught him the basics and not any spells, Rin admonishes Kiritsugu's decision because it goes against Mage expectations. This is {{foreshadowing}} ''Heaven's Feel''. [[spoiler:When Rin got deathly ill as an infant, her parents had another child as a back-up heir, who would be Sakura. When Rin ended up surviving, Tokiomi gave up Sakura to the Tohsaka's old allies, the Matou family, as both Rin and Sakura were both very magic-potent, which could risk getting unwanted attention from magical creatures and [[TheyWouldCutYouUp the Mage Association]], he didn't want Rin and Sakura to have to fight each other for the Magic Crest, and he didn't want Sakura's magic potential to go to waste if they were to keep her but not teach her magic. Rin spends the rest of ''Heaven's Feel'' being distant and hostile to Sakura in an attempt to follow the rule that the two aren't supposed to associate anymore, and even [[KickTheDog calls her weak for giving in to the Matou's abuse]]. It culminates in the two attempting to kill each other in the climax, only for Rin to falter and admit to Sakura that she still loves her and that she would've broken the rules to save her if she had known about Sakura's situation earlier.]]
** At the end of the ''[[UpdatedRerelease Realta Nua]]'' version of/the [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks 2015 anime adaptation of]] ''[[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Unlimited Blade Works]]'', Rin tells Shirou that she'll join him in WalkingTheEarth and anywhere he goes, despite them finally attending [[WizardingSchool the Clock Tower]] as she had wanted.
** The prequel, ''LightNovel/FateZero'', also reveals that [[HonorBeforeReason sticking to tradition]] and not adapting to changes in conduct (i.e. fighting dirty) is ultimately what gets Tokiomi killed, as [[spoiler:he is literally stabbed in the back by his apprentice, Kirei.]]
** Also from ''Fate/Zero'', [[TokenGoodTeammate Kariya Matou]] was the only magic heir in the Matou family for a long time, but he left due to [[AbusiveParent abuse from his father Zouken]] and subsequently never learned magic. He also didn't marry [[TheOneThatGotAway Aoi]] partly because he didn't want her to end up like [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Shinji's mother]].
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** In ''Dragon Ball Z''[='s=] sequel ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Zamasu is an apprentice Supreme Kai who would take his master's place as the Supreme Kai of Universe 10. However his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity black and white views]] on mortals caused him to see the beings he's supposed to protect as unworthy of the gods' knowledge. Meeting Goku and going to Planet Babari only solidified his bias, and concludes that all mortals need to be wipe out for universal peace. To that end, [[spoiler: Zamasu tries to murder Gowasu and steal his Time Ring. When Gowasu was told of this, he is definitely not pleased. The Zamasu who would become Black not only killed his master for the earrings, but also killed Future Gowasu.]]

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** In ''Dragon Ball Z''[='s=] sequel ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Zamasu is an apprentice Supreme Kai who would take his master's place as the Supreme Kai of Universe 10. However his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity black and white views]] on mortals caused him to see the beings he's supposed to protect as unworthy of the gods' knowledge. Meeting Goku and going to Planet Babari only solidified his bias, and concludes that all mortals need to be wipe wiped out for universal peace. To that end, [[spoiler: Zamasu tries to murder Gowasu and steal his Time Ring. When Gowasu was told of learns this, he is definitely not ''not'' pleased. The Zamasu who would become Black not only killed his master for the earrings, but also killed Future Gowasu.]]
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** In 1st Nephi, Nephi's brothers, Laman and Lamuel, are rebellious, they are willing to kill Nephi just because he follows his father's visions. When they went to the Americas, they try to kill him. Nephi at that point was warned ahead of time ad formed his own nation while Laman and Lamuel become the Lamanites who abandoned everything their father stood for.

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** In 1st Nephi, Nephi's brothers, Laman and Lamuel, are rebellious, they are willing to kill Nephi just because he follows his father's visions. When they went to the Americas, they try to kill him. Nephi at that point was warned ahead of time ad and formed his own nation nation, while Laman and Lamuel become the Lamanites who abandoned everything for which their father stood for.stood.

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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, and so forth. A BlackSheep is likely to be not a religious devote, a teen rebel, and if they are in a different race, is in a relationship with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. For royalty, the prince or princess ''definitely'' will have issues with their higher authority parent. And sometimes they will force them against their will or cut them off. It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil An evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters. Drama would definitely ensue.

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A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake in any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, and or so forth. A BlackSheep is likely to be not be a religious devote, devotee, a teen rebel, and if they are in of a different race, is in a relationship with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. For royalty, the prince or princess will ''definitely'' will have issues with their higher authority higher-authority parent. And sometimes they sometimes, those parents will force them to go along against their will or cut them off. It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil An evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters.

Drama would will definitely ensue.
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Your Tradition is Not Mine is a situation where either a WhiteSheep or the BlackSheep of the family do not intend to uphold their family traditions, and simply want to start a new life for themselves. Their parents will scorn about this, and try to get them to change their mind for the better.

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Your Tradition is Not Mine is a situation where either a WhiteSheep or the BlackSheep of the family do does not intend to uphold their family traditions, and simply want wants to start a new life for themselves. Their parents will scorn about them for this, and try to get them to change their mind for the better.

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** In ''Dragon Ball Z's'' sequel ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Zamasu is an apprentice Supreme Kai who would take his master's place as the Supreme Kai of Universe 10. However his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity black and white views]] on mortals caused him to see the beings he's supposed to protect as unworthy of the gods' knowledge. Meeting Goku and going to Planet Babari only solidified his bias, and concludes that all mortals need to be wipe out for universal peace. To that end, [[spoiler: Zamasu tries to murder Gowasu and steal his Time Ring. When Gowasu was told of this, he is definitely not pleased. The Zamasu who would become Black not only killed his master for the earrings, but also killed Future Gowasu.]]

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** In ''Dragon Ball Z's'' Z''[='s=] sequel ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Zamasu is an apprentice Supreme Kai who would take his master's place as the Supreme Kai of Universe 10. However his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity black and white views]] on mortals caused him to see the beings he's supposed to protect as unworthy of the gods' knowledge. Meeting Goku and going to Planet Babari only solidified his bias, and concludes that all mortals need to be wipe out for universal peace. To that end, [[spoiler: Zamasu tries to murder Gowasu and steal his Time Ring. When Gowasu was told of this, he is definitely not pleased. The Zamasu who would become Black not only killed his master for the earrings, but also killed Future Gowasu.]]

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* There were many episodes of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' where Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.
* There was an episode​ of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."

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* Anakin Skywalker in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel films has this issue since, as a Jedi, he cannot be in a relationship with the love of his life, Padme Amadala. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' he completely solidifies his FaceHeelTurn after being convinced by the BigBad that turning to the Dark Side would save his wife from a death he'd been having visions of.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel films has this issue in the prequel trilogy since, as a Jedi, he cannot be in a relationship with the love of his life, Padme Amadala. Padmé Amidala. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' he completely solidifies his FaceHeelTurn after being convinced by the BigBad that turning to the Dark Side would save his wife from a death dying, which he'd been having visions of.



* There were many episodes of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' where Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.



* There were many episodes of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' were Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.

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* There were many episodes of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' were Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.



* This is the backstory of Genji of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''. Genji enjoyed his life in Hanamura with his brother Hanzo, but the Yakuza forced them in a situation where one of them had to be the family successor. Genji was heavily injured and was rescued and cyberized by Overwatch agents. He eventually decides to take down his family's criminal activities. Hanzo, while involved, is deeply affected by what happened to his brother. When the two face off again, Genji reveals himself and hopes Hanzo would change his path.

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* This is the backstory of Genji of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''. Genji enjoyed his life in Hanamura with his brother Hanzo, but the Yakuza forced them in into a situation where one of them had to be the family successor. Genji was heavily injured and was rescued and cyberized by Overwatch agents. He eventually decides to take down his family's criminal activities. Hanzo, while involved, is deeply affected by what happened to his brother. When the two face off again, Genji reveals himself and hopes Hanzo would change his path.path.

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* Yosho Masaki Jurai (also known as Katsuhito Masaki) of ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' is [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human and half-Jurian]], and is the son of the king of Juria and his human mother Funaho. Yosho is the crown prince of Jurai, and was to take the throne. The Jurian nobles took issues with this, and so he was bethrothed with his half-sister Ayeka. However he had no intention of doing so, and used Ryoko's attack as an excuse to leave. Further complications reveal that he was in a relationship with Airi, who was a native of Airai, and pregnant with his child. Eventually, he used Ryoko's attack on Jurai as an excuse to disappear off the radar with few people knowing where he is.

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* Yosho Masaki Jurai (also known as Katsuhito Masaki) of ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' is [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human and half-Jurian]], half-Jurain]], and is the son of the king of Juria Jurai and his human mother Funaho. Yosho is the crown prince of Jurai, and was to take the throne. The Jurian Jurain nobles took issues with this, and so he was bethrothed with his half-sister Ayeka. However he had no intention of doing so, and used Ryoko's attack as an excuse to leave. Further complications reveal that he was in a relationship with Airi, who was a native of Airai, and pregnant with his child. Eventually, he used Ryoko's attack on Jurai as an excuse to disappear off the radar with few people knowing where he is.
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* Yosho Masaki Jurai (also known as Katsuhito Masaki) of ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' is [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human and half-Jurian]], and is the son of the king of Juria and his human mother Funaho. Yosho is the crown prince of Jurai, and was to take the throne. The Jurian nobles took issues with this, and so he was bethrothed with his half-sister Ayeka. However he had no intention of doing so, and used Ryoko's attack as an excuse to leave. Further complications reveal that he was in a relationship with Airi, who was a native of Airai, and pregnant with his child. Eventually, he used Ryoko's attack on Jurai as an excuse to disappear off the radar with few people knows where he is.

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* Yosho Masaki Jurai (also known as Katsuhito Masaki) of ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' is [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human and half-Jurian]], and is the son of the king of Juria and his human mother Funaho. Yosho is the crown prince of Jurai, and was to take the throne. The Jurian nobles took issues with this, and so he was bethrothed with his half-sister Ayeka. However he had no intention of doing so, and used Ryoko's attack as an excuse to leave. Further complications reveal that he was in a relationship with Airi, who was a native of Airai, and pregnant with his child. Eventually, he used Ryoko's attack on Jurai as an excuse to disappear off the radar with few people knows knowing where he is.



** At the beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Son Goku finds out he belongs to a race of warriors of {{Blood Knight}}s called Saiyans. He also found out he was sent to Earth to destroy all life on it, but the reason he didn't, was because of a head injury as a baby. Initially he rejected his heritage as a Saiyan, but he eventually embraces it during the Frieza Saga facing the titular BigBad.

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** At the beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Son Goku finds out he belongs to a race of warriors of warrior {{Blood Knight}}s called Saiyans. He also found out he was sent to Earth to destroy all life on it, but the it. The reason he didn't, didn't was because of a head injury as a baby. Initially he rejected his heritage as a Saiyan, but he eventually embraces it during the Frieza Saga facing the titular BigBad.



* Anakin Skywalker in the ''Star Wars'' prequel films have this issue since, as a Jedi, he cannot be in a relationship with the love of his life Padme Amadala. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' he completely solidifies his FaceHeelTurn after being told by the BigBad turning to the Dark Side would save his wife.

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* Anakin Skywalker in the ''Star Wars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel films have has this issue since, as a Jedi, he cannot be in a relationship with the love of his life life, Padme Amadala. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' he completely solidifies his FaceHeelTurn after being told convinced by the BigBad that turning to the Dark Side would save his wife.wife from a death he'd been having visions of.



* There was an ep of StarTrekTheNextGeneration where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."
* There were many episodes of {{Dinosaurs}} were Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.

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* There was an ep episode​ of StarTrekTheNextGeneration ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' where the Klingon court rules that Worf has the right to kill the (teenaged) son of the man who killed his family. Worf refuses, saying "It is not my way."
* There were many episodes of {{Dinosaurs}} ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' were Robbie eschewed traditions like hunting, Howling Day and leaving Grandma to die.



* This is the backstory of Genji of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''. Genji enjoyed his life in Hanamura with his brother Hanzo, but the Yakuza forced them in a situation where one of them to be the family successor. Genji was heavily injured and was rescued and cyberized by Overwatch agents. He eventually decides to take down his family's criminal activities. Hanzo, while involved, is deeply affected by what happened to his brother. When the two face off again, Genji reveals himself and hopes Hanzo would change his path.

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* This is the backstory of Genji of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''. Genji enjoyed his life in Hanamura with his brother Hanzo, but the Yakuza forced them in a situation where one of them had to be the family successor. Genji was heavily injured and was rescued and cyberized by Overwatch agents. He eventually decides to take down his family's criminal activities. Hanzo, while involved, is deeply affected by what happened to his brother. When the two face off again, Genji reveals himself and hopes Hanzo would change his path.
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** At the beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Son Goku finds out he belongs to a race of warriors of BloodKnights {{Blood Knight}}s called Saiyans. He also found out he was sent to Earth to destroy all life on it, but the reason he didn't, was because of a head injury as a baby. Initially he rejected his heritage as a Saiyan, but he eventually embraces it during the Frieza Saga facing the titular BigBad.
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* In the ''Literature/WarriorCats'' prequel ''Tallstar's Revenge'', Tallpaw's family has always been tunnelers, and he knows that his father is eager to train him and patrol with him. Tallpaw dreams of being a moor-runner, however - which Heatherstar senses, and assigns him as - but Tallpaw can't help but feeling bad for disappointing his parents.
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Your Tradition is Not Mine is a situation where either a WhiteSheep or the BlackSheep of the family do not intend to uphold their family traditions, and simply want to start a new life for themselves. Their parents will scorn about this, and try to get them to change their mind for the better.

A WhiteSheep will have a perfect reason why he or she does not want to partake any of their family traditions, whether they are assassins, thieves, and so forth. A BlackSheep is likely to be not a religious devote, a teen rebel, and if they are in a different race, is in a relationship with someone their family or [[MalignedMixedMarriage race utterly despise]]. For royalty, the prince or princess ''definitely'' will have issues with their higher authority parent. And sometimes they will force them against their will or cut them off. It can be race-related, with a MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil An evil apprentice]] will have this viewpoint when they question the old traditions of their old masters. Drama would definitely ensue.

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* Yosho Masaki Jurai (also known as Katsuhito Masaki) of ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' is [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human and half-Jurian]], and is the son of the king of Juria and his human mother Funaho. Yosho is the crown prince of Jurai, and was to take the throne. The Jurian nobles took issues with this, and so he was bethrothed with his half-sister Ayeka. However he had no intention of doing so, and used Ryoko's attack as an excuse to leave. Further complications reveal that he was in a relationship with Airi, who was a native of Airai, and pregnant with his child. Eventually, he used Ryoko's attack on Jurai as an excuse to disappear off the radar with few people knows where he is.
* ''Franchise/DragonBall''
** At the beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Son Goku finds out he belongs to a race of warriors of BloodKnights called Saiyans. He also found out he was sent to Earth to destroy all life on it, but the reason he didn't, was because of a head injury as a baby. Initially he rejected his heritage as a Saiyan, but he eventually embraces it during the Frieza Saga facing the titular BigBad.
** In ''Dragon Ball Z's'' sequel ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Zamasu is an apprentice Supreme Kai who would take his master's place as the Supreme Kai of Universe 10. However his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity black and white views]] on mortals caused him to see the beings he's supposed to protect as unworthy of the gods' knowledge. Meeting Goku and going to Planet Babari only solidified his bias, and concludes that all mortals need to be wipe out for universal peace. To that end, [[spoiler: Zamasu tries to murder Gowasu and steal his Time Ring. When Gowasu was told of this, he is definitely not pleased. The Zamasu who would become Black not only killed his master for the earrings, but also killed Future Gowasu.]]

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* Anakin Skywalker in the ''Star Wars'' prequel films have this issue since, as a Jedi, he cannot be in a relationship with the love of his life Padme Amadala. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' he completely solidifies his FaceHeelTurn after being told by the BigBad turning to the Dark Side would save his wife.

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* In ''Literature/TheBookOfMormon'', there are ''far more examples'' than you'd expect.
** In 1st Nephi, Nephi's brothers, Laman and Lamuel, are rebellious, they are willing to kill Nephi just because he follows his father's visions. When they went to the Americas, they try to kill him. Nephi at that point was warned ahead of time ad formed his own nation while Laman and Lamuel become the Lamanites who abandoned everything their father stood for.
** In Mosiah, we have Alma and the four sons of Mosiah. Alma openly opposes the church his father worships, and convinces his friends, who are the sons of King Mosiah, to join him. However he eventually subverts this after going into a coma and had a HeelFaceTurn.

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* ''Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof'' is a MalignedMixedMarriage example. Tevye's daughter Chava wanted to marry a non-Jew out of love, but he was highly against it. The drama eventually resulted in him disowning her as a result.

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* This is the backstory of Genji of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''. Genji enjoyed his life in Hanamura with his brother Hanzo, but the Yakuza forced them in a situation where one of them to be the family successor. Genji was heavily injured and was rescued and cyberized by Overwatch agents. He eventually decides to take down his family's criminal activities. Hanzo, while involved, is deeply affected by what happened to his brother. When the two face off again, Genji reveals himself and hopes Hanzo would change his path.

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