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7th Mar '18 10:55:31 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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These types of people are sometimes known as "mall ninjas", after [[http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/ an internet discussion]] involving someone claiming to be a mall security guard that [[PoesLaw may or may not]] have been a StealthParody of this phenomenon (or simply a {{troll}}).

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These types of people are sometimes known as "mall ninjas", after [[http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/ an internet discussion]] involving someone claiming to be a mall security guard that [[PoesLaw may or may not]] have been a StealthParody of this phenomenon (or simply a {{troll}}).
{{troll}}ing.
8th Feb '18 10:54:00 PM sotnosen95
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* Fanboy - Obsessed with a particular weapon or set of weapons. Will often shoehorn them into an discussion regardless of relevance - interrupting a debate on shotguns to tell everyone how they're all inferior to his beloved assault rifle, on account of its range. or obsessed with a certain person, and argues that they were the best general ever

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* Fanboy - Obsessed with a particular weapon or set of weapons. Will often shoehorn them into an discussion regardless of relevance - interrupting a debate on shotguns to tell everyone how they're all inferior to his beloved assault rifle, on account of its range. or They can also be obsessed with a certain person, and argues that they were the best general everever.



* Anti-Nationalist - The equal and opposite counterpart of the Nationalist; obsessed with constantly tearing down one other particular nation at all costs. Typical based on 50+-year-old rivalries - US attacking Chinese and Warsaw Pact, British attack their former colonies (especially America and India,) Japan attacking Korea and China, Germany and France attacking each other.

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* Anti-Nationalist - The equal and opposite counterpart of the Nationalist; obsessed with constantly tearing down one other particular nation at all costs. Typical based on 50+-year-old rivalries - US attacking Chinese and Warsaw Pact, British attack their former colonies (especially America and India,) India), Japan attacking Korea and China, Germany and France attacking each other.



** Fanboy - Try to convince a Pole-arm fan that there was ever any situation, including assassinations and tunnel fighting, that there wasn't a glaive variant that was the indisputably best weapon always everywhere forever amen.

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** Fanboy - Try to convince a Pole-arm pole-arm fan that there was ever any situation, including assassinations and tunnel fighting, that there wasn't a glaive variant that was the indisputably best weapon always everywhere forever amen.



* InternetToughGuy - These two personas are a common crossover. [=ITGs=] will obsess over the biggest, studliest weapons in a category - 12-gauge shotguns, napalm bombs, big stonking two-handed greatswords, those artillery cannons that shoot tactical nukes - while constantly peppering all discussions, including those about pastry baking, with impulsive and manly terms like 'Alpha Strike,' 'Blitzkrieg,' 'Lethality Radius,' and 'Maximum Overkill.' Expect any disagreement to be met with "How 'bout I come to your house and see what you say when you're staring down the barrel of X."

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* InternetToughGuy - These two personas are a common crossover. [=ITGs=] will obsess over the biggest, studliest weapons in a category - 12-gauge shotguns, napalm bombs, big stonking two-handed greatswords, those artillery cannons that shoot tactical nukes - while constantly peppering all discussions, including those about pastry baking, with impulsive and manly terms like 'Alpha Strike,' 'Blitzkrieg,' Strike', 'Blitzkrieg', 'Lethality Radius,' Radius', and 'Maximum Overkill.' Overkill'. Expect any disagreement to be met with "How 'bout I come to your house and see what you say when you're staring down the barrel of X."



* Technophiles - Technophiles are the heralds of the bleeding edge of battlefield technology, and place high-tech above all other considerations. They're most noticeable around settings with SchizoTech, complain about inconsistencies created by a weapon prototype announced a week ago and asking things along the lines of 'Why don't they just NukeEm?' And they won't take a legitimate in-universe explanation for an answer. The most dedicated will write "Setting vs Real World" fanfics which mainly just consist of "Iconic thing from Setting shows up, then CRUISE MISSILES!" Repeat until the entire universe has been cruise missile'd to death, then drop a nuke or fuel-air bomb just to be safe.

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* Technophiles - Technophiles are the heralds of the bleeding edge of battlefield technology, and place high-tech above all other considerations. They're most noticeable around settings with SchizoTech, complain complaining about inconsistencies created by a weapon prototype announced a week ago and asking things along the lines of 'Why don't they just NukeEm?' And they won't take a legitimate in-universe explanation for an answer. The most dedicated will write "Setting vs Real World" fanfics which mainly just consist of "Iconic thing from Setting shows up, then CRUISE MISSILES!" Repeat until the entire universe has been cruise missile'd to death, then drop a nuke or fuel-air bomb just to be safe.

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safe.
10th Jan '18 9:44:48 PM thomasp3864
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* Fanboy - Obsessed with a particular weapon or set of weapons. Will often shoehorn them into an discussion regardless of relevance - interrupting a debate on shotguns to tell everyone how they're all inferior to his beloved assault rifle, on account of its range.

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* Fanboy - Obsessed with a particular weapon or set of weapons. Will often shoehorn them into an discussion regardless of relevance - interrupting a debate on shotguns to tell everyone how they're all inferior to his beloved assault rifle, on account of its range. or obsessed with a certain person, and argues that they were the best general ever


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22nd Dec '17 6:02:16 AM Odacon_Spy
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* Determinism: the outcome of whole battles, campaigns, or wars was completely decided by a single factor.

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* Determinism: the outcome of whole battles, campaigns, or wars was completely ''completely'' decided by a single factor.
7th Jun '17 11:41:18 AM ChaoticNovelist
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The trope name itself comes from that fact that it is almost impossible to post a military-related video on Website/YouTube without the comment section being flooded by this persona. Most YouTube War Expert (YTWE) debate will degenerate into proclamations of the superiority of a particular weapon or military. If about weapons, it will degenerate into technical detail despite the fact that, [[SarcasmMode bizarrely]], actual soldiers are far more concerned with the context of a weapon's use (force ratios, ammunition, other weapons systems in use, etc) and the quality of its users. E.g.:

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The trope name itself comes from that fact that it is almost impossible to post a military-related video on Website/YouTube without the comment section being flooded by this persona. Most YouTube War Expert (YTWE) debate will degenerate into proclamations of the superiority of a particular weapon or military. If about weapons, it will degenerate into technical detail despite the fact that, [[SarcasmMode bizarrely]], that actual soldiers are far more concerned with the context of a weapon's use (force ratios, ammunition, other weapons systems in use, etc) and the quality of its users. E.g.:



** Anti-Nationalist - Mention katanas just about anywhere, and watch the doctorate-thesis grade rants roll in on how Japanese weapons were either more finely built than the "dull steel clubs" that European swords were, or how they couldn't have scratched even the worst of European armor, while even the worst European weapons would go through any Japanese armor like a chainsaw through warm butter.

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** Anti-Nationalist - Mention katanas katana just about anywhere, and watch the doctorate-thesis grade rants roll in on how Japanese weapons were either more finely built than the "dull steel clubs" that European swords were, or how they couldn't have scratched even the worst of European armor, while even the worst European weapons would go through any Japanese armor like a chainsaw through warm butter.



** A variant is the '''Internet Gun Expert''', who knows all about which weapon has better characteristics. Why? Because he owns them all, sleeps with his USMC regulations book ([[MilesGloriosus he will almost never have been in the military]]) in one arm and his "Barret.50CAL" ([[CompensatingForSomething he hunts white tails with it]]) in the other, and wishes for the day a home-invader will meet his [[CriticalResearchFailure Jackhammer full of incendiary flechette rounds]] and his [[BlatantLies 'Nam experience with the 3rd SOG]]. Naturally, such people almost never live up to the claims they make for themselves, and especially amusing is when they claim to own weapons or ammunition illegal in their point of origin. Another type is the '''Internet Vet''' who fondly reminisces about firing X weapon when they were in the military, or his service in Battle/War X, safe in the knowledge that no-one will be able to verify such grandiose claims[[note]]This isn't to say that everyone claiming to be a veteran on the internet is lying, of course, but generally, if it seems like the "'Stan vet"'s only experience of warfare is playing FirstPersonShooter games, that is probably because it is[[/note]].

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** A variant is the '''Internet Gun Expert''', who knows all about which weapon has better characteristics. Why? Because he owns them all, sleeps with his USMC regulations book ([[MilesGloriosus he will almost never rarely have been in the military]]) in one arm and his "Barret.50CAL" ([[CompensatingForSomething he hunts white tails with it]]) in the other, and wishes for the day a home-invader will meet his [[CriticalResearchFailure Jackhammer full of incendiary flechette rounds]] and his [[BlatantLies 'Nam experience with the 3rd SOG]]. Naturally, such people almost never seldom live up to the claims they make for themselves, and especially amusing is when they claim to own weapons or ammunition illegal in their point of origin. Another type is the '''Internet Vet''' who fondly reminisces about firing X weapon when they were in the military, or his service in Battle/War X, safe in the knowledge that no-one will be able to verify such grandiose claims[[note]]This isn't to say that everyone claiming to be a veteran on the internet is lying, of course, but generally, if it seems like the "'Stan vet"'s only experience of warfare is playing FirstPersonShooter games, that is probably because it is[[/note]].
20th Apr '17 8:21:00 PM Orbiting
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->'''Sergeant Deegan'''[[note]]''Police'' Sergeant Deegan[[/note]]: Ah, this reminds me of Vietnam...\\

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->'''Sergeant Deegan'''[[note]]''Police'' ->'''Police Sergeant Deegan[[/note]]: Deegan''': Ah, this reminds me of Vietnam...\\



'''Sergeant Deegan''': No, no, I mean the films!
-->-- '''Series/FatherTed Crilly''' and '''Gardai Sergeant Deegan''', [[BizarroUniverse hunting a rabid]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext alcoholic]].

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'''Sergeant '''Police Sergeant Deegan''': No, no, I mean the films!
-->-- '''Series/FatherTed Crilly''' and '''Gardai Sergeant Deegan''', [[BizarroUniverse hunting a rabid]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext alcoholic]].
''Series/FatherTed''
12th Mar '17 3:34:14 PM Xtifr
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In RealLife, the study of war is a complex and difficult academic and practical discipline. Every contemporary military runs academies (such as [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks West Point]] and [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Sandhurst]]) to train young officers in the art of war. This training touches upon numerous fields including psychology, sociology, politics, intelligence, logistics, tactics, operations, and strategy - and uses historical case studies as varied as the campaigns of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfWellington, and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Konstantin Rokossovsky]]. At the end of several years the officer cadet is at the very least not IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance in these sub-fields of the study of war, and aware of the fact that becoming an expert in any one of them can take a lifetime.

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In RealLife, the study of war is a complex and difficult academic and practical discipline. Every contemporary military runs academies (such as [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks West Point]] and [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Sandhurst]]) to train young officers in the art of war. This training touches upon numerous fields including psychology, sociology, politics, intelligence, logistics, tactics, operations, and strategy - and uses historical case studies as varied as the campaigns of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfWellington, and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Konstantin Rokossovsky]]. At the end of several years the officer cadet is at the very least not IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance in these sub-fields of the study of war, and aware of the fact that becoming an expert in any one of them can take a lifetime.
18th Dec '16 2:23:01 PM LentilSandEater
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** Nationalist - a good percentage of Arms Masters insist that Renaissance-era Switzerland could have conquered the whole world all in one go if they had felt like it.
*** Or the Mongols if the Great Khan hadn't died when he did.

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** Nationalist - a good percentage of Arms Masters insist that Renaissance-era Switzerland could have conquered the whole world all in one go if they had felt like it.
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it. Or the Mongols if the Great Khan hadn't died when he did.
7th Jun '16 7:27:27 AM MAI742
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The [=YouTube=] War Expert is a self-proclaimed expert in all aspects of war studies. Yes, ''all' of them. How did they become an expert, you ask? Well, they read a book. Maybe even ''several''.

The trope name itself comes from that fact that it is almost impossible to post a military-related video on Website/YouTube without the comment section being flooded by this persona. Most Youtube War Expert (YtWE) debate will degenerate into proclamations of the superiority of a particular weapon or military. If about weapons, it will degenerate into technical detail despite the fact that, [[SarcasmMode bizarrely]], actual soldiers are far more concerned with the context of a weapon's use (force ratios, ammunition, other weapons systems in use, etc) and the quality of its users. E.g.:

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The [=YouTube=] War Expert is a self-proclaimed expert in all aspects of war studies. Yes, ''all' ''all'' of them. How did they become an expert, you ask? Well, they read a book. Maybe even ''several''.

The trope name itself comes from that fact that it is almost impossible to post a military-related video on Website/YouTube without the comment section being flooded by this persona. Most Youtube YouTube War Expert (YtWE) (YTWE) debate will degenerate into proclamations of the superiority of a particular weapon or military. If about weapons, it will degenerate into technical detail despite the fact that, [[SarcasmMode bizarrely]], actual soldiers are far more concerned with the context of a weapon's use (force ratios, ammunition, other weapons systems in use, etc) and the quality of its users. E.g.:
7th Jun '16 7:26:43 AM MAI742
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In RealLife, the study of war is a complex and difficult academic and practical discipline. Every conteporary military runs academies (such as [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks West Point]] and [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Sandhurst]]) to train young officers in the art of war. This training touches upon numerous fields (including psychology, sociology, politics, intelligence, logistics, tactics, operations, and strategy - and uses historical case studies as varied as the campaigns of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfWellington, and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Konstantin Rokossovsky]]. At the end of several years the officer cadet is at the very least not IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance in these sub-fields of the study of war, and aware of the fact that becoming an expert in any one of them can take a lifetime.

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In RealLife, the study of war is a complex and difficult academic and practical discipline. Every conteporary contemporary military runs academies (such as [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks West Point]] and [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Sandhurst]]) to train young officers in the art of war. This training touches upon numerous fields (including including psychology, sociology, politics, intelligence, logistics, tactics, operations, and strategy - and uses historical case studies as varied as the campaigns of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfWellington, and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Konstantin Rokossovsky]]. At the end of several years the officer cadet is at the very least not IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance in these sub-fields of the study of war, and aware of the fact that becoming an expert in any one of them can take a lifetime.
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