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3rd May '16 7:44:13 AM NilSpace
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* In ''VisualNovel/HerTearsWereMyLight'', you are required to fail at saving the character Space from [[spoiler:Nil]] and reset the timeline several times, with both you and [[spoiler:Nil]] retaining memories of these events, before you can hear [[spoiler:Nil's]] side of the story and start making better decisions.
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2nd May '16 6:07:04 AM jormis29
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* ''[[Film/TheMatrix The Matrix: Path Of Neo]]'' actually averts this trope. The first stage has Neo try to escape the Agents trying to arrest him at his office. Unlike the movie, however, Neo can climb the scaffolding and make it to the roof, meeting up with Trinity, and leaving the office undetected. [[spoiler:All this does is unlock Hard Mode, though.]]

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* ''[[Film/TheMatrix The Matrix: Path Of Neo]]'' ''VideoGame/TheMatrixPathOfNeo'' actually averts this trope. The first stage has Neo try to escape the Agents trying to arrest him at his office. Unlike the movie, however, Neo can climb the scaffolding and make it to the roof, meeting up with Trinity, and leaving the office undetected. [[spoiler:All this does is unlock Hard Mode, though.]]
1st May '16 2:32:40 AM Ygdrasel
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* ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain'':
** The Pillars will be corrupted. The entire series begins with this event in a cutscene before the player character is even born.
** In Defiance, currently the "end" of the series, the ''collapse'' of the Pillars occurs in a cutscene, unavoidable just like the very first scene of the series. These events, while similar and even overlapping to a degree, constitute two separate evil plans by two separate evils. It is not a very victorious series.
18th Apr '16 10:51:41 PM aye_amber
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* Frequently subverted in fanfics[[note]][[FridgeBrilliance which are all about telling a different story from canon]], and that may or may not include CuttingTheKnot of a canon plot point[[/note]], such as when [[TalkToTheFist the villain isn't even allowed to get a shot in before being beaten to a bloody pulp]]. [[TropesAreNotGood When done badly]], it leads to a stagnant plot, or an endless succession of such encounters. [[TropesAreNotBad When done well]], it can be a case of RealityEnsues, or a way of taking the story in a different direction. It can also have a place in a story where the struggle against the BigBad is ''not the point of the story''.

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* Frequently subverted in fanfics[[note]][[FridgeBrilliance which are all about telling a different story from canon]], and that may or may not include CuttingTheKnot of a canon plot point[[/note]], such as when [[TalkToTheFist the villain isn't even allowed to get a shot in before being beaten to a bloody pulp]]. [[TropesAreNotGood [[TropesAreTools When done badly]], it leads to a stagnant plot, or an endless succession of such encounters. [[TropesAreNotBad [[TropesAreTools When done well]], it can be a case of RealityEnsues, or a way of taking the story in a different direction. It can also have a place in a story where the struggle against the BigBad is ''not the point of the story''.
17th Apr '16 9:19:54 PM jameygamer
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* This happens in the 4th season of ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012''. The third season ended with the Triceraton Fleet [[spoiler: using a black hole generator called the Heart of Darkness to suck Earth into a black hole (an EnemyMine to destroy the device before it could activate was foiled by the Shredder killing Splinter).]] The Turtles go back in time with this verse's version of Honeycutt to obtain the pieces and destroy them before the device could be assembled, but [[spoiler: the Triceratons are able to assemble it anyway.]]
13th Apr '16 3:36:45 PM Wyldchyld
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': During the TBTP flashback mini-arc, Yoruichi challenges Urahara to develop the best-case solution to the worst-case scenario when they face exile and abandonment because of Aizen's machinations. The first half of the storyline is therefore a chess-game where Aizen always reaches the worst case scenario so that Urahara can come up with a best-case scenario to solve the situation. Once the BiggerBad is activated, the indications are that the chess-game has switched villainous players from Aizen to Yhwach, leaving Urahara still planning the best solutions to the worst case scenarios. [[spoiler:It's eventually confirmed that Urahara is one of the shinigami who is classified as one of the Five Special War Powers precisely because of his ability to devise a thousand different options for any given potential event.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': During the TBTP flashback mini-arc, Yoruichi challenges Urahara to develop the best-case solution to the worst-case scenario when they face exile and abandonment because of Aizen's machinations. The first half of the storyline is therefore a chess-game where Aizen always reaches the worst case scenario so that Urahara can come up with a best-case scenario to solve the situation. Once the BiggerBad is activated, the indications are that the chess-game has switched villainous players from Aizen to Yhwach, leaving Urahara still planning the best solutions to the worst case scenarios. [[spoiler:It's eventually confirmed that Urahara is one of the shinigami who is classified as one of the Five Special War Powers precisely because of his ability to devise a thousand different options for any given potential event.]]
13th Apr '16 3:36:15 PM Wyldchyld
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': During the TBTP flashback mini-arc, Yoruichi challenges Urahara to develop the best-case solution to the worst-case scenario when they face exile and abandonment because of Aizen's machinations. The first half of the storyline is therefore a chess-game where Aizen always reaches the worst case scenario so that Urahara can come up with a best-case scenario to solve the situation. Once the BiggerBad is activated, the indications are that the chess-game has switched villainous players from Aizen to Yhwach, leaving Urahara still planning the best solutions to the worst case scenarios.

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': During the TBTP flashback mini-arc, Yoruichi challenges Urahara to develop the best-case solution to the worst-case scenario when they face exile and abandonment because of Aizen's machinations. The first half of the storyline is therefore a chess-game where Aizen always reaches the worst case scenario so that Urahara can come up with a best-case scenario to solve the situation. Once the BiggerBad is activated, the indications are that the chess-game has switched villainous players from Aizen to Yhwach, leaving Urahara still planning the best solutions to the worst case scenarios. [[spoiler:It's eventually confirmed that Urahara is one of the shinigami who is classified as one of the Five Special War Powers precisely because of his ability to devise a thousand different options for any given potential event.]]
10th Apr '16 4:23:03 AM Vir
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** In Season One, the confrontation itself triggers the final phase, as the BigBad needs Buffy's blood to give him the strength to set his plan in motion.
** In Season Two, Angel actually gets as far as awakening Acathla, who begins to suck the world into hell, forcing Buffy to sacrifice a now resouled Angel in order to seal the rift.
** In Season Three, by the time they figure out who the real BigBad ''is'', he's completed a ritual that makes him invincible until he's ready to go OneWingedAngel. (In this case, the Scoobies do actually capture an artifact required for the ritual, but, in doing so, Willow was taken hostage by the BigBad. Wesley argued that they should accept Willow as lost and destroy the artifact there and then, but in the end, the Scoobies traded it for their friend.)
** Season Four is a subversion of this trope. Adam was potentially the most dangerous foe that Buffy ever faced, but they managed to kill him before he secured a powerbase. If he had succeeded and gained the resources of The Initiative, then they would've really been in trouble!
** Season Six: Short answer: Yes. [[spoiler:Dark Willow]] is seconds away from destroying the world. Long Answer: No. The trio of nerds were the main villains for most of Season 6, only a handful of their plans even got past stage 1, and none of them really went the way they anticipated (leading up to a frustrated Warren just going to buy a freaking gun...).
** Season Seven: Short answer: again, yes, most of the major events of season seven go the way they do in order to have the climatic battle at the end. (And the span of human history leading up to it, according to the First Evil.) Longer answer: the season went mostly according to the BigBad's plans, but Buffy took it off the rails before the invasion was scheduled to begin. It all still came down to an all-or-nothing final battle with everything on the line, but it was done on the Slayers' timeline before the BigBad could open the Hellmouth and have the army of super-vampires start pouring out. The word "plan" is used loosely, as it seems to consist of little more than "screw with Buffy's head". Probably a result of the writers designing an omniscient, omnipresent villain with "unlimited resources" and still trying to make the show dramatic. By the final episode, even the writers had to lampshade how useless the First Evil was for all of their supposed power.

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** In Season One, season 1, the confrontation itself triggers the final phase, as the BigBad needs Buffy's blood to give him the strength to set his plan in motion.
** In Season Two, season 2, Angel actually gets as far as awakening Acathla, who begins to suck the world into hell, forcing Buffy to sacrifice a now resouled Angel in order to seal the rift.
** In Season Three, season 3, by the time they figure out who the real BigBad ''is'', he's completed a ritual that makes him invincible until he's ready to go OneWingedAngel. (In this case, the Scoobies do actually capture an artifact required for the ritual, but, in doing so, Willow was taken hostage by the BigBad. Wesley argued that they should accept Willow as lost and destroy the artifact there and then, but in the end, the Scoobies traded it for their friend.)
** Season Four 4 is a subversion of this trope. Adam was potentially the most dangerous foe that Buffy ever faced, but they managed to kill him before he secured a powerbase. If he had succeeded and gained the resources of The Initiative, then they would've really been in trouble!
** Season Six: 6: Short answer: Yes. [[spoiler:Dark Willow]] is seconds away from destroying the world. Long Answer: No. The trio of nerds were the main villains for most of Season 6, only a handful of their plans even got past stage 1, and none of them really went the way they anticipated (leading up to a frustrated Warren just going to buy a freaking gun...).
** Season Seven: 7: Short answer: again, yes, most of the major events of season seven go the way they do in order to have the climatic battle at the end. (And the span of human history leading up to it, according to the First Evil.) Longer answer: the season went mostly according to the BigBad's plans, but Buffy took it off the rails before the invasion was scheduled to begin. It all still came down to an all-or-nothing final battle with everything on the line, but it was done on the Slayers' timeline before the BigBad could open the Hellmouth and have the army of super-vampires start pouring out. The word "plan" is used loosely, as it seems to consist of little more than "screw with Buffy's head". Probably a result of the writers designing an omniscient, omnipresent villain with "unlimited resources" and still trying to make the show dramatic. By the final episode, even the writers had to lampshade how useless the First Evil was for all of their supposed power.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' follows suit. In season two, Korra has to prevent BigBad [[GodOfEvil Vaatu]] from escaping, and his servant Unalaq from merging with the evil spirit. Once Vaatu is freed, Korra ''almost'' re-seals him before getting blindsided by Desna and Eska.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' follows suit. In season two, 2, Korra has to prevent BigBad [[GodOfEvil Vaatu]] from escaping, and his servant Unalaq from merging with the evil spirit. Once Vaatu is freed, Korra ''almost'' re-seals him before getting blindsided by Desna and Eska.
6th Apr '16 10:57:31 AM Morgenthaler
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* An aversion happened in the ''SinCity'' story ''Family Values''. Throughout this graphic novel, Dwight and Miho decimate an entire mob family with only a few instances where it's possible that Dwight may be killed or arrested. The drama actually comes from the mystery surrounding the reason why Old Town is going after this mob family and how the random pieces of information all link together.

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* An aversion happened in the ''SinCity'' ''ComicBook/SinCity'' story ''Family Values''. Throughout this graphic novel, Dwight and Miho decimate an entire mob family with only a few instances where it's possible that Dwight may be killed or arrested. The drama actually comes from the mystery surrounding the reason why Old Town is going after this mob family and how the random pieces of information all link together.
27th Mar '16 8:28:24 AM Mhazard
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Compare YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle and UnspokenPlanGuarantee (the unspoken plan is stage ''two''). Contrasts PyrrhicVictory and BrokeYourArmsPunchOutCthulhu.

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Compare YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle and UnspokenPlanGuarantee (the unspoken plan is stage ''two''). Contrasts PyrrhicVictory and BrokeYourArmsPunchOutCthulhu.
BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu.
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