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8th Jun '17 5:38:21 AM Gosicrystal
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* Videogame/BravelySecond plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or so he thinks]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aformentioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]

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* Videogame/BravelySecond ''Videogame/BravelySecond'' plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or so he thinks]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aformentioned aforementioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]
22nd May '17 11:27:14 AM ShinyManaphy
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** And in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Sun and Moon]]'', [[spoiler:you can't stop Lusamine from opening the Ultra Wormhole and going through it with Guzma. You have to spend most of the rest of the main plot getting to Ultra Space yourself to retrieve them, and then the main postgame plot cleaning up the damage she did by letting the Ultra Beasts into Alola.]]
17th May '17 4:58:33 PM NumberFortyFour
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** No matter how quickly you get to the rocket launch station in Metal Harbor in Sonic Adventure 2, it will always be 15 seconds from takeoff.
17th May '17 1:23:06 PM Gitman
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** In ''VideoGame/DiabloII,'' you cannot stop Diablo from freeing Baal and reuniting with Mephisto. In the ''Lord of Destruction'' expansion, you can't stop Baal from corrupting the Worldstone, but you ''can'' kill him, letting Tyrael destroy the Worldstone before it can be used to turn Sanctuary into another Hell realm.
8th Apr '17 10:49:11 PM NumberFortyFour
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robert's plan to assassinate Daenerys in order to avoid a potential invasion by her Dothraki husband's forces is botched. Even when word of Daenery's dragons and her position as Queen of Mereen reaches King's Landing, the Lannister's are far too busy dealing with more immediate threats to risk sending out forces to take out Dany and her dragons while they are young. So, [[spoiler: by the time Cersei manages to usurp the Iron Throne, it's far too late to do anything about Dany, and Cersei faced with a full-fledged invasion of a massive army of Dothraki and three relatively mature dragons.]]

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robert's plan to assassinate Daenerys in order to avoid a potential invasion by her Dothraki husband's forces is botched. Even when word of Daenery's dragons and her position as Queen of Mereen reaches King's Landing, the Lannister's are far too busy dealing with more immediate threats to risk sending out forces to take out Dany and her dragons while they are young. So, [[spoiler: by the time Cersei manages to usurp the Iron Throne, it's far too late to do anything about Dany, and as her long-sought reign begins Cersei is almost immediately faced with a full-fledged invasion of a massive army of Dothraki and three relatively mature dragons.]]
8th Apr '17 10:46:52 PM NumberFortyFour
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Aegon's invasion. The Targaryen's had been on Dragonstone for nearly a hundred years following the Doom of Valyria. They were unable to begin their invasion sooner because their dragons at the time of the doom were too old to be of much use, and they had to wait a long time for their newborns to mature. Of course, no one thought to do anything about them while the dragons were young, resulting in the continent having to deal with three nearly full-grown dragons.
8th Apr '17 10:41:47 PM NumberFortyFour
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robert's plan to assassinate Daenerys in order to avoid a potential invasion by her Dothraki husband's forces is botched. Even when word of Daenery's dragons and her position as Queen of Mereen reaches King's Landing, the Lannister's are far too busy dealing with more immediate threats to risk sending out forces to take out Dany and her dragons while they are young. So, [[spoiler: by the time Cersei manages to usurp the Iron Throne, it's far too late to do anything about Dany, and Cersei faced with a full-fledged invasion of a massive army of Dothraki and three relatively mature dragons.]]
4th Apr '17 12:30:13 AM Prinzenick
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Has nothing to do with [[NintendoHard being unable to]] ''[[NintendoHard beat]]'' [[NintendoHard stage one.]]
27th Mar '17 10:05:19 AM crazysamaritan
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* Touched on in one of the opening levels of ''VideoGame/MaxPayne2'', which sends you to investigate a warehouse where gunfire was recently heard. One of the corrupt commercial cleaners at the place lets you in and shows you around the place, eventually leading you into an ambush. Killing him beforehand averts nothing, but instead causes the protagonist to make an off comment in his rampant monologuing about [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything how obvious a brawl he was walking into.]]

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* Touched on in one of the opening levels of ''VideoGame/MaxPayne2'', which sends you to investigate a warehouse where gunfire was recently heard. One of the corrupt commercial cleaners at the place lets you in and shows you around the place, eventually leading you into an ambush. Killing him beforehand averts nothing, but instead causes the protagonist to make an off comment in his rampant monologuing about [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything how obvious a brawl he was walking into.]]
23rd Mar '17 1:05:52 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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** Likewise in the sequel ''[[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadws A Game of Shadows]]'', the BigBad Moriarty is always one step ahead of Holmes, managing to pull off his schemes without a hitch while distracting and misleading the good detective at every turn. By the end of the film, with minutes left to go, it looks like TheBadGuyWins -- until Holmes reveals [[spoiler:the fruition of his BatmanGambit to get Moriarty's notes ,which allow the police to dismantle his financial empire.]] Even at this stage, [[spoiler:Holmes's AwesomeByAnalysis fighting style (which Moriarty is also capable of) predicts that he will be on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle from Moriarty unless he performs the iconic HeroicSacrifice over Reichenbach Falls.]]

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** Likewise in the sequel ''[[Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadws A Game of Shadows]]'', the BigBad Moriarty is always one step ahead of Holmes, managing to pull off his schemes without a hitch while distracting and misleading the good detective at every turn. By the end of the film, with minutes left to go, it looks like TheBadGuyWins -- until Holmes reveals [[spoiler:the fruition of his BatmanGambit to get Moriarty's notes ,which notes, which allow the police to dismantle his financial empire.]] Even at this stage, [[spoiler:Holmes's AwesomeByAnalysis fighting style (which Moriarty is also capable of) predicts that he will be on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle from Moriarty unless he performs the iconic HeroicSacrifice over Reichenbach Falls.]]
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