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1st Dec '17 8:05:36 AM Hobgoblin
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* ''Videogame/BravelySecond'' plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or so he thinks]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aforementioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]

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* ''Videogame/BravelySecond'' plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or past (or so he thinks]], thinks)]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aforementioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]
28th Nov '17 4:00:14 PM MarioAndSpongeBobFan
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Has nothing to do with [[NintendoHard being unable to]] ''[[NintendoHard beat]]'' [[NintendoHard stage one.]]

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Has nothing to do with [[NintendoHard being unable to]] ''[[NintendoHard ''[[UnwinnableByDesign beat]]'' [[NintendoHard [[GuideDangIt stage one.]]
22nd Nov '17 7:08:23 AM ShinyManaphy
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', ''three'' seperate stage ones manage to complete before the heroes can stop it. [[spoiler:You can't stop the traitor from betraying you, thus getting the protagonist arrested and nearly killed. You can't stop Masayoshi Shido from being elected Prime Minister of Japan. Lastly, you can't stop Yaldaboath from merging the two realities and wiping you out of existance.]]
23rd Oct '17 10:52:38 AM WhiteBirdy
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** [[spoiler:Also the case with Blackbeard's plans, which go off without a hitch all the way through killing Whitebeard, stealing his Devil Fruit power, and taking his place as one of the Four Emperors. This is even lampshaded by Blackbeard and his crew often talking about fate's role in their plan, as if recognizing that this trope would come into effect.]]

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** [[spoiler:Also Also the case with Blackbeard's plans, which go off without a hitch all the way through killing Whitebeard, [[spoiler:Whitebeard, stealing his Devil Fruit power, and taking his place as one of the Four Emperors.Emperors]]. This is even lampshaded by Blackbeard and his crew often talking about fate's role in their plan, as if recognizing that this trope would come into effect.]]
20th Oct '17 7:45:52 PM Gamermaster
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* The heroines of ''LyricalNanoha'' were almost able to thwart stage one in each of the three seasons, having retained one half of the [[MineralMacguffin Jewel Seeds]] in Season 1, convinced the Wolkenritter that finishing all [[NumberOfTheBeast 666 pages]] of the [[ArtifactOfDeath Book of Darkness]] might be a bad idea in Season 2, and rescued the MysteriousWaif before she could be used by the BigBad in Season 3. "Almost" doesn't cut it, though, as Precia executes her plans anyway with what she has no matter how unstable it is, [[spoiler:the [[MysteriousProtector Masked Man]] intervenes and uses the Wolkenritter's essence]] as fuel for the remaining pages of the Book of Darkness, and [[spoiler:[[QuirkyMinibossSquad the Numbers]] [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs invade and destroy the heroes' HQ]]]] to reclaim the MysteriousWaif respectively.

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* The heroines of ''LyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' were almost able to thwart stage one in each of the three seasons, having retained one half of the [[MineralMacguffin Jewel Seeds]] in Season 1, convinced the Wolkenritter that finishing all [[NumberOfTheBeast 666 pages]] of the [[ArtifactOfDeath Book of Darkness]] might be a bad idea in Season 2, and rescued the MysteriousWaif before she could be used by the BigBad in Season 3. "Almost" doesn't cut it, though, as Precia executes her plans anyway with what she has no matter how unstable it is, [[spoiler:the [[MysteriousProtector Masked Man]] intervenes and uses the Wolkenritter's essence]] as fuel for the remaining pages of the Book of Darkness, and [[spoiler:[[QuirkyMinibossSquad the Numbers]] [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs invade and destroy the heroes' HQ]]]] to reclaim the MysteriousWaif respectively.
10th Oct '17 5:40:21 AM Ccook1956
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* Played for drama in the ''Series/{{MASH}}'' episode "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." Hawkeye sees a friend die in the O.R., which devastates him. When he asks why he's crying for his friend and not the other soldiers who gave their life, Henry tries to be philosophical about it (which leads to Hawkeye going against his word and sending an underage soldier home):
-->'''Henry:''' All I know is what they told me in medical school. Rule one: kids die. Rule two: Doctors can't change rule one.
9th Oct '17 4:45:30 PM Amahn
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** In the Goku Black arc of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' Goku and Beerus attempt to thwart stage one by [[spoiler: killing Present Zeemasu before he can kill Gowasu and make his wish on the Super Dragon Balls]]. Beerus states with absolute certain that everything has been set right by this action, even in alternate timelines. Only to have reality slap him cruelly in the face when [[spoiler: Future Zeemasu pops back up and they learn that the Time Ring he stole makes him immune to timeline changes and thus a living paradox]].
7th Sep '17 8:35:57 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In ''Fanfic/QuarterLifeHalfwayToDestruction'', [[VideoGame/{{Half-Life}} Gordon]] and Jimm are unable to stop "a bad guy from the game" from stealing the isotope, and can't recover it before it reaches "[[YouFailNuclearPhysicsForever quarter-life]]".

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* In ''Fanfic/QuarterLifeHalfwayToDestruction'', [[VideoGame/{{Half-Life}} [[VideoGame/HalfLife Gordon]] and Jimm are unable to stop "a bad guy from the game" from stealing the isotope, and can't recover it before it reaches "[[YouFailNuclearPhysicsForever quarter-life]]".
2nd Sep '17 11:48:02 AM kazokuhouou
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* Technically speaking, it's stage 3, but ''Fanfic/WhiteDevilOfTheMoon'' managed to avert the entire [[Manga/SailorMoon Infinity arc]] by [[Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Shamal]] finding and removing the Mistress 9 parasite inside Hotaru long before Mistress 9 could fight back. Germatoid's actions in trying to stop Shamal led to the school being investigated, leading to the dismantlement of the Death Busters long before they were due to be a threat (keep in mind that the fic takes place during the ''first'' ''Sailor Moon'' story arc). Even Pharaoh 90 is no more: a TSAB fleet blasted it in the face.
28th Aug '17 1:08:41 AM BigKlingy
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* ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations]]'': You have to [[spoiler: accuse Luke Atmey of theft]] in the first day of the trial, even though you later find out this was all part of his plan [[spoiler: to get away with murder]].
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