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23rd Apr '18 5:30:29 AM Eddy1215
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* Common and constant in ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures''. Every season involves the heroes rushing around the world to find objects of power before the forces of evil can collect them all and become all powerful. Nearly every season ends with said forces of evil collecting everything anyway and having to be defeated at their most powerful. This was only averted twice: the first time, Jackie and co. did manage to stop Shendu from freeing all of his demon brethren, but then Shendu manages to find an easier way to do it and it happens anyway. The second time is to stop Daolon Wong from collecting Shendu's scattered powers (echoing the plot of the first season) -- in an amusing twist, the season ends with Daolon having only some of them, trying to make a deal with Shendu to get it all, and then Shendu tricking him and getting all the power himself. Again.

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* Common and constant in ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures''. Every season involves the heroes rushing around the world [[GottaCatchThemAll to find objects of power power]] before the forces of evil can collect them all and become all powerful. Nearly every season ends with said forces of evil collecting everything anyway and having to be defeated at their most powerful. This was only averted twice: the first time, Jackie and co. did manage to stop Shendu from freeing all of his demon brethren, but then Shendu manages to find an easier way to do it and it happens anyway. The second time is to stop Daolon Wong from collecting Shendu's scattered powers (echoing ([[HereWeGoAgain echoing the plot of the first season) season]]) -- in an amusing twist, the season ends with Daolon having only some of them, trying to make a deal with Shendu to get it all, [[HijackedByGanon and then Shendu tricking him and getting all the power himself.himself]]. Again.



** Also [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] in ''[[TheMovie So the Drama]]''; Kim foils Drakken's attempt to kidnap Mr. Nakasumi, preventing his capture and theoretically stopping or at least disrupting Drakken's plan long enough to foil it another way, but instead Drakken gets what he wants; [[spoiler:from Nakasumi's suit, which was all [[DarkActionGirl Shego]] could recover from the mess.]] This eventually gives Drakken what he needs to launch the scheme, thus using the trope somewhat straight despite being foiled.

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** Also [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] in ''[[TheMovie So the Drama]]''; ''WesternAnimation/KimPossibleMovieSoTheDrama''; Kim foils Drakken's attempt to kidnap Mr. Nakasumi, preventing his capture and theoretically stopping or at least disrupting Drakken's plan long enough to foil it another way, but instead Drakken gets what he wants; [[spoiler:from Nakasumi's suit, which was all [[DarkActionGirl Shego]] could recover from the mess.]] This eventually gives Drakken what he needs to launch the scheme, thus using the trope somewhat straight despite being foiled.



* This happens in the 4th season of ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012''. The third season ended with the Triceraton Fleetusing a black hole generator called the Heart of Darkness to suck Earth into a black hole (an EnemyMine to destroy the device before it could activate was foiled by [[spoiler: the Shredder killing Splinter]]). The Turtles go back in time with this verse's version of Honeycutt to obtain the pieces and destroy them before the device could be assembled, but the Triceratons are able to assemble it anyway.

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* This happens in the 4th season of ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012''. The third season ended with the Triceraton Fleetusing Fleet using a black hole generator called the Heart of Darkness to suck Earth into a black hole (an EnemyMine to destroy the device before it could activate was foiled by [[spoiler: the Shredder killing Splinter]]). The Turtles go back in time with this verse's version of Honeycutt to obtain the pieces and destroy them before the device could be assembled, but the Triceratons are able to assemble it anyway.
19th Apr '18 7:21:31 AM CouchAlmark
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** ''FORCE'' looks set to use this too, with the Huckebein having kicked hero tail thus far in the first major engagement.

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** ''FORCE'' looks set to use uses this too, but the manga's cancellation means stage one is all there is. That stage one lasted for four years with the Huckebein having kicked hero tail thus far no end in the first major engagement.sight is often cited as a reason for said cancellation.



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robert's plan to assassinate Daenerys in order to avoid a potential invasion by her Dothraki husband's forces is botched. Even when word of Daenery's dragons and her position as Queen of Mereen reaches King's Landing, the Lannister's are far too busy dealing with more immediate threats to risk sending out forces to take out Dany and her dragons while they are young. So, [[spoiler: by the time Cersei manages to usurp the Iron Throne, it's far too late to do anything about Dany, and as her long-sought reign begins Cersei is almost immediately faced with a full-fledged invasion of a massive army of Dothraki and three relatively mature dragons.]]



* ''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue'' -- the Rangers fight the demons for an entire series, but can't defeat Bansheera until after she succeeds in bringing her evil fortress to Earth.
* ''Series/PowerRangersNinjaStorm'': We only learn that Lothor actually ''had'' a long-term plan in the finale, but it nonetheless plays out - filling the Abyss of Evil with his fallen minions until they all rise as an army. The Rangers and their recently-freed fellow students kick them all back in.



* Each season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' has the villains' plans succeed to some extent:
** In the first season, the plan to kill Teri Bauer succeeds while the Palmer assassination fails.
** Season 2 has the bomb go off, even though only Mason is killed. This is significant because Palmer is forced to follow through on his threat that if the bomb goes off on U.S. soil, he will wage war against the people responsible.
** In season 3, hundreds of people are infected with the virus, although a [[strike:city]] nation-wide epidemic is averted.
** In season 4, one nuclear meltdown succeeds, and Keeler is incapacitated and possibly killed after Air Force One is shot down.
** In season 5, the gas attack on the shopping mall partly succeeds, as does the attack on CTU headquarters.
** In season 6, 12,000 people are killed by a suitcase nuke in Valencia, California.

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* Each season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' has the villains' plans succeed to some extent:
** In the first season, the
''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robert's plan to kill Teri Bauer succeeds assassinate Daenerys in order to avoid a potential invasion by her Dothraki husband's forces is botched. Even when word of Daenery's dragons and her position as Queen of Mereen reaches King's Landing, the Lannister's are far too busy dealing with more immediate threats to risk sending out forces to take out Dany and her dragons while they are young. So, [[spoiler: by the Palmer time Cersei manages to usurp the Iron Throne, it's far too late to do anything about Dany, and as her long-sought reign begins Cersei is almost immediately faced with a full-fledged invasion of a massive army of Dothraki and three relatively mature dragons.]]
* Most ''Franchise/KamenRider'' shows have some sort of villainous plan whose first stage can't be thwarted. Some are notable for smaller recurring cases:
** ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'' never stops a Zodiarts before it can enter its Last One phase.
** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' actually forces the ''heroes'' to participate in stage one early in the show, when they can't skip straight to using their cool and powerful Level 2 and Level 3 forms until they've separated the virus they're fighting from its host first, which requires fighting the patient/virus fusion in their goofy SuperDeformed Level 1 forms first. The show's format eventually changes so they don't need to do this anymore, but the lesson proves valuable against the FinalBoss.
* ''Series/{{Lewis}}'': In "Magnum Opus" the murderer is a ThemeSerialKiller, who associates their murders with a four-part alchemical procedure. The first three murders go ahead and the killer is caught just in time to prevent the fourth.
* Played for drama in the ''Series/{{MASH}}'' episode "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." Hawkeye sees a friend die in the O.R., which devastates him. When he asks why he's crying for his friend and not the other soldiers who gave their life, Henry tries to be philosophical about it (which leads to Hawkeye going against his word and sending an underage soldier home):
-->'''Henry:''' All I know is what they told me in medical school. Rule one: kids die. Rule two: Doctors can't change rule one.
* Subverted in the fourth episode of the fourth season ''Series/{{Nikita}}'', where we're shown what appears to be the final stages of a plot that began with the
assassination fails.
** Season 2 has
of the bomb go off, even though President of the United States. Team Nikita stops an attempt to cause World War III, believing it to be the conspirators' ultimate goal, only Mason is killed. This is significant because Palmer is forced for the show to follow through on his threat reveal that if the bomb goes off on U.S. soil, he will wage war it had only a ruse to get Nikita out of their hair by allowing her to think that she'd stopped them. The actual plan, which is left unrevealed, had actually been abandoned earlier, after Nikita had killed two people essential for its successful execution.
* Featured heavily in ''Series/PersonOfInterest''
against the people responsible.
**
Decima Technologies. In season 2, they manage to put a virus inside The Machine, though [[spoiler: Finch had planned on this all along as a means of freeing it from its original limitations]]. In season 3, hundreds of people are infected they manage to create [[spoiler: a second machine and make it operational.]]
* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'', like its Sentai parent, usually sees villains get away
with every stage of their plan but the virus, although a [[strike:city]] nation-wide epidemic is averted.
last one:
** In season 4, one nuclear meltdown succeeds, and Keeler is incapacitated and possibly killed ''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue'' -- the Rangers fight the demons for an entire series, but can't defeat Bansheera until after Air Force One is shot down.
she succeeds in bringing her evil fortress to Earth.
** In season 5, ''Series/PowerRangersNinjaStorm'': We only learn that Lothor actually ''had'' a long-term plan in the gas attack on finale, but it nonetheless plays out - filling the shopping mall partly succeeds, Abyss of Evil with his fallen minions until they all rise as does the attack on CTU headquarters.
** In season 6, 12,000 people are killed by a suitcase nuke in Valencia, California.
an army. The Rangers and their recently-freed fellow students kick them all back in.



* ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' has Sujigarano Akumaro planning to open up the barrier between the world of the living and Hell by creating six wedges out of human suffering. He succeeds in creating the wedges, but underestimates the true nature of the BloodKnight he manipulated into helping him with the final stage of his plan.
** ''Series/ChoujuuSentaiLiveman'' takes this UpToEleven. [[spoiler:Bias suceeds in getting the twelth brain, brainwashing the world, and becoming immortal. In other words, he succeeded. And he would have won if Yuusuke hadn't made it to the Brain Base or if Kemp didn't become a Deus Ex Machina.]]
* In ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'', a Zodiarts has yet to be stopped before entering its Last One phase.
* {{Discussed}} in a Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook sketch about one Nazi [[HeelRealization suggesting to another that they are in fact "the baddies" rather than the good guys.]] Among other telltale signs such as [[ObviouslyEvil having skulls as their insignia]], he says that while the war has been going pretty well so far, he can think of lots of stories where the villains succeed initially only for the heroes to rally and defeat them, but none where it happened the other way around.



* Featured heavily in ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' against Decima Technologies. In season 2, they manage to put a virus inside The Machine, though [[spoiler: Finch had planned on this all along as a means of freeing it from its original limitations]]. In season 3, they manage to create [[spoiler: a second machine and make it operational.]]
* ''Series/{{Lewis}}'': In "Magnum Opus" the murderer is a ThemeSerialKiller, who associates their murders with a four-part alchemical procedure. The first three murders go ahead and the killer is caught just in time to prevent the fourth.
* Inverted and justified in ''Series/KamenRiderExAid''. The Riders can't just immediately transform into Level 2 to bust the viruses, as the patients body wouldn't be able to handle it. First, they need to remove the Bugster from the patients body with Level 1, and only after that you can proceed to blasting them in their materialized form with Level 2.
* Subverted in the fourth episode of the fourth season ''Series/{{Nikita}}'', where we're shown what appears to be the final stages of a plot that began with the assassination of the President of the United States. Team Nikita stops an attempt to cause World War III, believing it to be the conspirators' ultimate goal, only for the show to reveal that it had only a ruse to get Nikita out of their hair by allowing her to think that she'd stopped them. The actual plan, which is left unrevealed, had actually been abandoned earlier, after Nikita had killed two people essential for its successful execution.
* Played for drama in the ''Series/{{MASH}}'' episode "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." Hawkeye sees a friend die in the O.R., which devastates him. When he asks why he's crying for his friend and not the other soldiers who gave their life, Henry tries to be philosophical about it (which leads to Hawkeye going against his word and sending an underage soldier home):
-->'''Henry:''' All I know is what they told me in medical school. Rule one: kids die. Rule two: Doctors can't change rule one.

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* Featured heavily in ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' against Decima Technologies. In season 2, they manage general, if a ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' villain has a plan, it's going to put a virus inside The Machine, though [[spoiler: Finch had planned on get past Stage One:
** ''Series/ChoujuuSentaiLiveman'' takes
this all along as a means of freeing it from its original limitations]]. In season 3, they manage to create [[spoiler: a second machine UpToEleven. [[spoiler:Bias suceeds in getting the twelth brain, brainwashing the world, and make becoming immortal. In other words, he succeeded. And he would have won if Yuusuke hadn't made it operational.]]
* ''Series/{{Lewis}}'': In "Magnum Opus"
to the murderer is Brain Base or if Kemp didn't become a ThemeSerialKiller, who associates their murders with a four-part alchemical procedure. The first three murders go ahead and Deus Ex Machina.]]
** ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' has Sujigarano Akumaro planning to open up
the killer is caught just in time to prevent barrier between the fourth.
* Inverted and justified in ''Series/KamenRiderExAid''. The Riders can't just immediately transform into Level 2 to bust the viruses, as the patients body wouldn't be able to handle it. First, they need to remove the Bugster from the patients body with Level 1, and only after that you can proceed to blasting them in their materialized form with Level 2.
* Subverted in the fourth episode
world of the fourth season ''Series/{{Nikita}}'', where we're shown what appears to be living and Hell by creating six wedges out of human suffering. He succeeds in creating the wedges, but underestimates the true nature of the BloodKnight he manipulated into helping him with the final stages stage of his plan.
* {{Discussed}} in
a plot Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook sketch about one Nazi [[HeelRealization suggesting to another that began with they are in fact "the baddies" rather than the good guys.]] Among other telltale signs such as [[ObviouslyEvil having skulls as their insignia]], he says that while the war has been going pretty well so far, he can think of lots of stories where the villains succeed initially only for the heroes to rally and defeat them, but none where it happened the other way around.
* Each season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' has the villains' plans succeed to some extent:
** In the first season, the plan to kill Teri Bauer succeeds while the Palmer
assassination of fails.
** Season 2 has
the President of the United States. Team Nikita stops an attempt to cause World War III, believing it to be the conspirators' ultimate goal, bomb go off, even though only for the show Mason is killed. This is significant because Palmer is forced to reveal follow through on his threat that it had only a ruse to get Nikita out of their hair by allowing her to think that she'd stopped them. The actual plan, which is left unrevealed, had actually been abandoned earlier, after Nikita had killed two people essential for its successful execution.
* Played for drama in
if the ''Series/{{MASH}}'' episode "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." Hawkeye sees a friend die in the O.R., which devastates him. When bomb goes off on U.S. soil, he asks why he's crying for his friend and not the other soldiers who gave their life, Henry tries to be philosophical about it (which leads to Hawkeye going will wage war against his word the people responsible.
** In season 3, hundreds of people are infected with the virus, although a [[strike:city]] nation-wide epidemic is averted.
** In season 4, one nuclear meltdown succeeds,
and sending an underage soldier home):
-->'''Henry:''' All I know
Keeler is what they told me incapacitated and possibly killed after Air Force One is shot down.
** In season 5, the gas attack on the shopping mall partly succeeds, as does the attack on CTU headquarters.
** In season 6, 12,000 people are killed by a suitcase nuke
in medical school. Rule one: kids die. Rule two: Doctors can't change rule one.Valencia, California.
19th Mar '18 11:28:11 PM BountyBeast
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** Played straight in the first two ''Shantae'' games. In both games, Risky gets away with the ArtifactOfDoom no matter what, and your only reward for beating the first boss is not dying.
26th Feb '18 9:42:54 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Interestingly, this gets {{inverted|Trope}} in the first movie: Twilight manages to at least ''severely hinder'' Sunset Shimmer's plan to steal the Element of Magic crown, ''and'' she manages to foil Shimmer's plan to gain that crown by becoming Princess of the school ball. However, she eventually fails to prevent Sunset Shimmer from just taking the crown from her through brute force.

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** Interestingly, this gets {{inverted|Trope}} in [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls2013 the first movie: movie]]: Twilight manages to at least ''severely hinder'' Sunset Shimmer's plan to steal the Element of Magic crown, ''and'' she manages to foil Shimmer's plan to gain that crown by becoming Princess of the school ball. However, she eventually fails to prevent Sunset Shimmer from just taking the crown from her through brute force.
23rd Feb '18 8:05:14 AM InvisibleJester89
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* Inverted in ''[[TabletopGame/CallOfCthulhu Masks of Nyarlathotep]]'', where the game is structured in such a way that it's actually entirely possible to stop certain aspects of various cults' plans ''before'' they are supposed to be launched if the [[PlayerCharacter Investigators]] go to the right places first. For example, if they choose to go to Shanghai ([[SequenceBreaking the canonical end game]]), they can potentially [[spoiler:stop [[TheDragon Penhew's]] rocket on Grey Dragon Island long before the launch date]]. If they go to any of the three major locations [[spoiler:of markers for the [[TotalEclipseOfThePlot Great]] [[ApocalypseHow Gate]]]], they can even stop the plan before they fully understand it, kill crucial characters and creatures for said plan, etc.
12th Jan '18 10:09:16 PM reddragon32145
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--> '''Aoede''': So your grand plan, itís not really a plan, itís a jugglerís philosophy.

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--> '''Aoede''': '''[[TheBard Aoede]]''': So your grand plan, itís not really a plan, itís a jugglerís philosophy.



** It's implied that this strategy was also used by Dread Emperor Irritant, "the Oddly successful."

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** It's implied that this strategy was also used by Dread Emperor Irritant, "the Oddly successful.Successful."
12th Jan '18 10:06:08 PM reddragon32145
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**It's implied that this strategy was also used by Dread Emperor Irritant, "the Oddly successful."
-->ďHahahahaha. Ha. You canít beat me now, this is the first part of my plan!Ē
21st Dec '17 2:38:44 PM infernape612
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* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'': For almost the entire game the [[PlayerCharacter Vault Hunter]] is trying to stop Handsome Jack from [[SealedEvilInACan awakening the Warrior]], but he still manages to do it in the FinalBattle. But the [[PlayerCharacter Vault Hunter]], being the badass that they are, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu ends up killing it anyway]].
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' shows what happens when the team rises to fight the growing darkness... [[spoiler:[[ApocalypseHow and Stage Two is still completed.]]]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': you can't stop any of the victims from being thrown into the TV, you can't stop them from denying their [[BeneathTheMask Shadow self]], [[spoiler:and you can't stop the TV world's fog from leaking into Inaba, which is stage one of this game's [[ApocalypseHow apocalypse]].]]
* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', ''three'' seperate stage ones manage to complete before the heroes can stop it. [[spoiler:You can't stop the traitor from betraying you, thus getting the protagonist arrested and nearly killed. You can't stop Masayoshi Shido from being elected Prime Minister of Japan. Lastly, you can't stop Yaldaboath from merging the two realities and wiping you out of existance.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'': ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'': For almost the entire game the [[PlayerCharacter Vault Hunter]] is trying to stop Handsome Jack from [[SealedEvilInACan awakening the Warrior]], but he still manages to do it in the FinalBattle. But the [[PlayerCharacter Vault Hunter]], being the badass that they are, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu ends up killing it anyway]].
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' ''VideoGame/Persona2'' shows what happens when the team rises to fight the growing darkness... [[spoiler:[[ApocalypseHow and Stage Two is still completed.]]]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': ''VideoGame/Persona4'': you can't stop any of the victims from being thrown into the TV, you can't stop them from denying their [[BeneathTheMask Shadow self]], [[spoiler:and you can't stop the TV world's fog from leaking into Inaba, which is stage one of this game's [[ApocalypseHow apocalypse]].]]
* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', ''VideoGame/Persona5'', ''three'' seperate stage ones manage to complete before the heroes can stop it. [[spoiler:You can't stop the traitor from betraying you, thus getting the protagonist arrested and nearly killed. You can't stop Masayoshi Shido from being elected Prime Minister of Japan. Lastly, you can't stop Yaldaboath Yaldabaoth from merging the two realities and wiping you out of existance.existence.]]
1st Dec '17 8:05:36 AM Hobgoblin
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* ''Videogame/BravelySecond'' plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or so he thinks]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aforementioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]

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* ''Videogame/BravelySecond'' plays this very straight, and then subverts it beautifully. You cannot stop Kaiser Oblivion from achieving everything he sets out to do. You cannot win the [[HopelessBossFight opening fight that sees Agnes kidnapped]], you cannot stop Kaiser from [[spoiler:travelling into the future, or past (or so he thinks]], thinks)]], and you cannot stop his fairy companion from [[spoiler:destroying the moon, which unleashes unbeatable eldritch abominations upon the world and puts it into a permanent timeless stasis.]] You don't even get the chance to fight him again. There's nothing more you can do, and the heroes lament their utter failure. The only way to fix things, is to [[spoiler:start a New Game Plus and activate Bravely Second during the aforementioned hopeless boss fight, which pulls your previous characters into the past where the're actually strong enough to win. You then proceed to use your future knowledge of Kaiser's plans to utterly curbstomp him at every turn to the point that Kaiser's group laments THEIR utter failure.]]
28th Nov '17 4:00:14 PM MarioAndSpongeBobFan
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Has nothing to do with [[NintendoHard being unable to]] ''[[NintendoHard beat]]'' [[NintendoHard stage one.]]

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Has nothing to do with [[NintendoHard being unable to]] ''[[NintendoHard ''[[UnwinnableByDesign beat]]'' [[NintendoHard [[GuideDangIt stage one.]]
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