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Ideas are powerful things. They spread like viruses, leaping from mind to mind, irrevocably changing the mind they inhabit and their perspective on the world. Armies and dictators have no power over them and while men can die, their ideas are immortal.

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Ideas are powerful things. They spread like viruses, leaping [[{{Inception}} What's the most resilient parasite? An idea. A single idea from the human mind to mind, irrevocably changing can build cities. An idea can transform the mind they inhabit world and their perspective on rewrite all the world. Armies rules.]]Armies and dictators have no power over them and while men can die, their ideas are immortal.



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-->'''Cobb''': What's the most resilient parasite? An idea. A single idea from the human mind can build cities. An idea can transform the world and rewrite all the rules, which is why... I have to steal it.

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* From {{Inception}}:
-->'''Cobb''': What's the most resilient parasite? An idea. A single idea from the human mind can build cities. An idea can transform the world
*{{Inception}} addresses this and rewrite all the rules, which emphathizes why it is why... I have so hard to steal it.
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The trope codifier - Medgar Evers.

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* American civil rights activist Medgar Evers [[TropeCodifier codified this trope]]: "You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea." He was later shot dead by a Klansman, but the civil rights movement endured.
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* Many opponents of the WarOnTerror invoke this trope as one of their points. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We shall not go any further.]]

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* Many opponents Opponents of the WarOnTerror and WarOnDrugs invoke this trope as one of their points. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We shall not go any further.]]
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* Invoked in {DeusEx} when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.

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* Invoked in {DeusEx} {{Deus Ex}} when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* Invoked in ''{DeusEx}'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.

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* Invoked in ''{DeusEx}'' {DeusEx} when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* Invoked in ''[[DeusEx]]'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.

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* Invoked in ''[[DeusEx]]'' ''{DeusEx}'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* Invoked in ''[[Deus Ex]]'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.

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* Invoked in ''[[Deus Ex]]'' ''[[DeusEx]]'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* Invoked in ''Deus Ex'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.

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* Invoked in ''Deus Ex'' ''[[Deus Ex]]'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* Invoked in ''Deus Ex'' when the terrorist leader says 'You can't fight ideas with bullets'.
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* ''TheDresdenFiles'' novella ''Backup'' goes into a bit of detail about The Oblivion War, a war waged, essentially, against ideas. Specifically, the memory of some unpleasant old gods who can't do anything if humans remain blissfully unaware of their existence. We don't get a ''lot'' of information, but since the antagonist is a cultist of said gods, and Thomas (the novella protagonist) mentioned the war has been ongoing for thousands of years, it fits.
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** Ideas can, perhaps, commit suicide.

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* Also used in a MindScrew episode of ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' where Benjamin Sisko, dreaming that he's a science fiction writer in the 50s, reacts rather badly to having his story pulped because it has a black Captain.
-->"You can deny me all you want but you can't deny Ben Sisko – He exists! That future, that space station, all those people – they exist in here! In my mind. I created it. And everyone of you knew it, you read it. It's here. Do you hear what I'm telling you? You can pulp a story but you cannot destroy an idea, don't you understand, that's ancient knowledge, you cannot destroy an idea. That future – I created it, and it's real! Don't you understand? It is real. I created it. And it's real! It's REAL!"
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** But do remember that this was said by a man who, along with his predecessors and successors, repeatedly twisted the meaning of communism or outright abandoned it when needed (NEP? Stalin and Hitler pact? Using the Orthodox church to boost morale?) Ideas may be immortal, but they sure as hell have limits. It doesn't matter how good an idea is, it still must operate within reality.
** So it's possible to twist an idea until it's proponents don't recognize it, but not to kill it?
*** The NEP was actually a policy of Lenin's, not Stalin's. Also, it's not at all clear that the Stalin-Hitler pact was a twisting or abandonment of communism, at least not Stalin's version of it. Arguably, it was the natural outgrowth of his "Socialism in One Country" doctrine.
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**So it's possible to twist an idea until it's proponents don't recognize it, but not to kill it?
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**Except that ThoseWackyNazis are an idea too and one that Victor Lazlo is kinda, you know, trying to kill.


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*Given the marginal popularity of ThoseWackyNazis, one might point out that it is at least possible to render an idea catatonic.
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* Martyrs, like Jesus, are one of the reasons why Christianity flourished.
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** Actually...there are at least three currently existing churches that tracks back to Jan hus or Hussits, one of them even having it in name - Czechoslovak Hussite Church. Other two being Moravian Church and Unity of the Brethren. Not speaking about direct descendants of people who participated. Then again, seeing as "Hussites" was offensive nickname, given to those who called themselves Man of Goblet by their enemies...it is very unprobable you would get positive answer for the question, anyway.
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* Many opponents of the WarOnTerror invoke this trope as one of their points. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We shall not go any further.]]

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* Used first seriously and then humorously in the BelisariusSeries. Belisarius starts a rumour about sexual prowess and general horniness of the Kushans in order to get Kungas and his men pulled away from their guard duty of a captured princess. Their incompetent replacements are easily dispatched and allow her to be rescued. Later, once the confused Kushans find out about the origin of the rumour, they then take delight in spreading it themselves.


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* Government propaganda targeted at an enemy intentionally invokes this trope, especially during wartime.
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*** The NEP was actually a policy of Lenin's, not Stalin's. Also, it's not at all clear that the Stalin-Hitler pact was a twisting or abandonment of communism, at least not Stalin's version of it. Arguably, it was the natural outgrowth of his "Socialism in One Country" doctrine.
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* In ''[=~1984~=]'', this is both what the Party disproves and exemplifies. The Party ''does'' kill ideas, it manipulates minds to think whatever it wants them to think, but it itself is not dependent on anything other than the ideas and methods of the Party meaning that it can never be destroyed by a taking out any one individual or place. The ending of the novel is an inversion of the inspiration "The hero lives on" type of endings: [[spoiler: Winston is allowed to live long enough to be forced to admit that he really does love Big Brother before being killed, so that the audience knows in no way that the ideas of The Party were overcome.]]

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* In ''[=~1984~=]'', this is both what the Party disproves and exemplifies. The Party ''does'' kill ideas, it manipulates minds to think whatever it wants them to think, but it itself is not dependent on anything other than the ideas and methods of the Party meaning that it can never be destroyed by a taking out any one individual or place. The ending of the novel is an inversion of the inspiration inspirational "The hero lives on" type of endings: [[spoiler: Winston is allowed to live long enough to be forced to admit that he really does love Big Brother before being killed, so that the audience knows that in no way that were the ideas of The Party were overcome.]]



** But do remember that this was said by a man who, along with his predecessors, repeatedly twisted the meaning of communism or outright abandoned it when needed (NEP? Stalin and Hitler pact? Using the Orthodox church to boost morale). Ideas may be immortal, but they sure as hell have limits. It doesent matter how good an idea is, it still must operate within reality.

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** But do remember that this was said by a man who, along with his predecessors, predecessors and successors, repeatedly twisted the meaning of communism or outright abandoned it when needed (NEP? Stalin and Hitler pact? Using the Orthodox church to boost morale). morale?) Ideas may be immortal, but they sure as hell have limits. It doesent doesn't matter how good an idea is, it still must operate within reality.
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* Subverted by all civilizations which vanished and left no knowledge to the present day. Probably.
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* Subverted by all civilizations which vanished and left no knowledge to the present day. Probably.
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''{{Discworld}}'' novels on several occasions, frequently with people using rumours that once they get started can not be stopped. In ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', for instance, Rincewind goes around telling soldiers that ''in no way'' are there any invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them in the follow battle and there are ''absolutely not'' 2,300,009 of them, which gives everybody precisely the idea that there are 2,300,009 invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them that spreads like wildfire.

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* PlayedForLaughs in ''{{Discworld}}'' novels on several occasions, frequently with people using rumours that once they get started can not be stopped. In ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', for instance, Rincewind goes around telling soldiers that ''in no way'' are there any invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them in the follow battle and there are ''absolutely not'' 2,300,009 of them, which gives everybody precisely the idea that there are 2,300,009 invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them that spreads like wildfire.
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* In ''[[AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed 2]]'' one of the Codex pages reveals that Altair mused on this subject more than once, noting that the Templars waged war by seeking to win over the hearts and minds of people with ideas, rather than more conventional weapons. This made it rather difficult for the Assassins to fight back.

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* In ''[[AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed 2]]'' 2]]'', one of the Codex pages reveals that Altair mused on this subject more than once, noting that the Templars waged war by seeking to win over the hearts and minds of people with ideas, rather than more conventional weapons. This made it rather difficult for the Assassins to fight back.

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* The page quote comes from the ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Rightful Heir", where Chancellor Gowron is talking about the symbolic effect of the return of the Klingon GodEmperor.
* In ''[=~1984~=]'', this is both what the Party disproves and exemplifies. The Party ''does'' kill ideas, it manipulates minds to think whatever it wants them to think, but it itself is not dependent on anything other than the ideas and methods of the Party meaning that it can never be destroyed by a taking out any one individual or place. The ending of the novel is an inversion of the inspiration "The hero lives on" type of endings: [[spoiler: Winston is allowed to live long enough to be forced to admit that he really does love Big Brother before being killed, so that the audience knows in no way that the ideas of The Party were overcome.]]
* PlayedForLaughs in ''{{Discworld}}'' novels on several occasions, frequently with people using rumours that once they get started can not be stopped. In ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', for instance, Rincewind goes around telling soldiers that ''in no way'' are there any invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them in the follow battle and there are ''absolutely not'' 2,300,009 of them, which gives everybody precisely the idea that there are 2,300,009 invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them that spreads like wildfire.

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* The page quote comes from the ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Rightful Heir", where Chancellor Gowron is talking about the symbolic effect of the return of the Klingon GodEmperor.
* In ''[=~1984~=]'', this is both what the Party disproves and exemplifies. The Party ''does'' kill ideas, it manipulates minds to think whatever it wants them to think, but it itself is not dependent on anything other than the ideas and methods of the Party meaning that it can never be destroyed by a taking out any one individual or place. The ending of the novel is an inversion of the inspiration "The hero lives on" type of endings: [[spoiler: Winston is allowed to live long enough to be forced to admit that he really does love Big Brother before being killed, so that the audience knows in no way that the ideas of The Party were overcome.]]
* PlayedForLaughs in ''{{Discworld}}'' novels on several occasions, frequently with people using rumours that once they get started can not be stopped. In ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', for instance, Rincewind goes around telling soldiers that ''in no way'' are there any invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them in the follow battle and there are ''absolutely not'' 2,300,009 of them, which gives everybody precisely the idea that there are 2,300,009 invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them that spreads like wildfire.
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* From {{Inception}}:
-->'''Cobb''': What's the most resilient parasite? An idea. A single idea from the human mind can build cities. An idea can transform the world and rewrite all the rules, which is why... I have to steal it.

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* In ''[=~1984~=]'', this is both what the Party disproves and exemplifies. The Party ''does'' kill ideas, it manipulates minds to think whatever it wants them to think, but it itself is not dependent on anything other than the ideas and methods of the Party meaning that it can never be destroyed by a taking out any one individual or place. The ending of the novel is an inversion of the inspiration "The hero lives on" type of endings: [[spoiler: Winston is allowed to live long enough to be forced to admit that he really does love Big Brother before being killed, so that the audience knows in no way that the ideas of The Party were overcome.]]
* PlayedForLaughs in ''{{Discworld}}'' novels on several occasions, frequently with people using rumours that once they get started can not be stopped. In ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', for instance, Rincewind goes around telling soldiers that ''in no way'' are there any invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them in the follow battle and there are ''absolutely not'' 2,300,009 of them, which gives everybody precisely the idea that there are 2,300,009 invisible vampire ghosts about to attack them that spreads like wildfire.

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* The page quote comes from the ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Rightful Heir", where Chancellor Gowron is talking about the symbolic effect of the return of the Klingon GodEmperor.

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* In ''[[AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed 2]]'' one of the Codex pages reveals that Altair mused on this subject more than once, noting that the Templars waged war by seeking to win over the hearts and minds of people with ideas, rather than more conventional weapons. This made it rather difficult for the Assassins to fight back.
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** ''Knowing'' the Hussites existed at all (probably) means the Hussites live on in some form. ThatOtherWiki even has an article on them. Forgetting an idea or a person, if enough people are involved, on the other hand...
* "''A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. Ideas have endurance without death.''" -John Fitzgerald Kennedy
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** But do remember that this was said by a man who, along with his predecessors, repeatedly twisted the meaning of communism or outright abandoned it when needed (NEP? Stalin and Hitler pact? Using the Orthodox church to boost morale). Ideas may be immortal, but they sure as hell have limits. It doesent matter how good an idea is, it still must operate within reality.

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