History Main / YouCannotKillAnIdea

14th Nov '17 10:38:12 AM JJHIL325
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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born.

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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that somebody else would have stirred up those prejuduces in the public in order to get political support.
7th Nov '17 2:50:03 PM JJHIL325
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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) claim that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't work]], as once his sick idea was planted in the minds of the Nazis once he was killed, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued on his work.

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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) claim believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't work]], prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick idea was ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis once he was killed, Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued on his work.work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born.
4th Nov '17 12:16:11 PM Premonition45
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** Later in the episode, the same argument is used to convince Gowron to let Kahless be a figurehead Emperor rather than oppose him. When Kahless counters that this Kahless is a clone, Worf points out that it won't matter to a good number of Klingons, who will still see it as reincarnation, and would only result in fracturing the Empire. Gowron is forced to, reluctantly, kneel before Kahless (even though Gowron is still in charge).

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** *** Later in the episode, the same argument is used to convince Gowron to let Kahless be a figurehead Emperor rather than oppose him. When Kahless counters that this Kahless is a clone, Worf points out that it won't matter to a good number of Klingons, who will still see it as reincarnation, and would only result in fracturing the Empire. Gowron is forced to, reluctantly, kneel before Kahless (even though Gowron is still in charge).charge).
** In the two-part episode "Birthright", Worf discovers a Romulan prison camp where Klingons and Romulans have learned to live together in peace. However, he finds that the Klingon children are not informed about their heritage. The Romulan leader, Tokath, finds him a threat to this peace, and demands that Worf stop or else he'll get executed. Worf tells him he is content to FaceDeathWithDignity for this reason.
--->'''Worf:''' I am being executed because I brought something dangerous to your young people. Knowledge. Knowledge of their origins. Knowledge of the real reasons you are here in this camp. The truth is a threat to you.
22nd Oct '17 11:37:53 AM nombretomado
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** Two and a half millennia later, CarlJung would adopt Plato's ideas for his theory of "archetypes", that every person is hardwired with mythological symbols that manifest in their myths and religions, while another Carl - [[Creator/CarlSagan Sagan]] - would savage Plato for the rise of religious dogma, by championing the supremacy of the mind over the science of the 'corrupt' natural world.

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** Two and a half millennia later, CarlJung UsefulNotes/CarlJung would adopt Plato's ideas for his theory of "archetypes", that every person is hardwired with mythological symbols that manifest in their myths and religions, while another Carl - [[Creator/CarlSagan Sagan]] - would savage Plato for the rise of religious dogma, by championing the supremacy of the mind over the science of the 'corrupt' natural world.
11th Oct '17 3:59:49 PM Kreyghun
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* ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': This is one of Kreia's favorite tropes. She points out that killing men is easier than killing belief and that Revan, in the process of fighting the Mandalorians, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters adopted Mandalorian tactics and their intolerance for the "weak."]] She also points out that every time the Jedi and Sith fight each other to near-extinction, the ''ideals'' of either side still remain as strong as ever, waiting for their chance to strike back in revenge and dooming the galaxy to endless warfare.

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* ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'': This is one of Kreia's favorite tropes. She points out that killing men is easier than killing belief and that Revan, in the process of fighting the Mandalorians, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters adopted Mandalorian tactics and their intolerance for the "weak."]] She also points out that every time the Jedi and Sith fight each other to near-extinction, the ''ideals'' of either side still remain as strong as ever, waiting for their chance to strike back in revenge and dooming the galaxy to endless warfare.
13th Sep '17 5:09:31 AM DeepRed
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The TropeNamer is American civil rights activist Medgar Evers, who stated that "you can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea." He was later shot dead by a Klansman, but the civil rights movement endured.

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The TropeNamer is American civil rights activist Medgar Evers, who stated that "you can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea." He was later shot dead by a Klansman, [[UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan Klansman]], but the civil rights movement endured.
10th Sep '17 12:11:37 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Earlier in the second season, Lelouch pulls off a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome by exploiting this trope. When cutting a deal with the Britannians, they want to know if he's the original and he gets them to agree that it doesn't matter, because anyone who wears the costume and espouses the beliefs is "Zero". Then when the Britannians announce that they're formally exiling Zero from Japan, a million of his supporters put on Zero costumes, meaning the Britannians are forced to exile all of them, giving him a million-strong army.

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** Earlier in the second season, Lelouch pulls off a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome by exploiting this trope. When cutting a deal with the Britannians, they want to know if he's the original and he gets them to agree that it doesn't matter, because anyone who wears the costume and espouses the beliefs is "Zero". Then when the Britannians announce that they're formally exiling Zero from Japan, a million of his supporters put on Zero costumes, meaning the Britannians are forced to exile all of them, giving him a million-strong army.army (the only reason why that same million [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim isn't just exterminated on the spot on the off chance that the real Zero is among them and to give all other rebels a lesson]] (and they were ''seriously'' entertaining the idea) is because the one in charge (Suzaku) still held a degree of HonorBeforeReason and had given his word that this agreement would be upheld no matter what).
9th Sep '17 10:30:51 PM VulgarBee
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* ''ComicBook/Watchmen'': [[spoiler:Rorschach's Journal is heavily implied to have been published after the events of the graphic novel, revealing Ozymandias' master plan to the wide public, even though Dr. Manhattan killed Rorschach SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN]].

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* ''ComicBook/Watchmen'': ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': [[spoiler:Rorschach's Journal is heavily implied to have been published after the events of the graphic novel, revealing Ozymandias' master plan to the wide public, even though Dr. Manhattan killed Rorschach SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN]].
24th Jul '17 5:01:01 AM SimYouLater
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SuperTrope of CantStopTheSignal. The characters who pass on the idea are likely {{Doomed Moral Victor}}s. Likely to inspire an InnocentBystander to make a DefiantStoneThrow. Compare WeAreEverywhere, for those bad ideas that can't be killed.

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SuperTrope of CantStopTheSignal. The characters who pass on the idea are likely {{Doomed Moral Victor}}s. Likely to inspire an InnocentBystander to make a DefiantStoneThrow. Compare WeAreEverywhere, for those bad ideas that can't be killed.
killed, and the [[MindVirus "Neurovirus" or "Memetic Science"]] for bad ideas that deserve to die but are too sentient and/or too contagious to be killed by law of [[MindWipe morality]], [[{{Thoughtcrime}} man]] or [[TheHeretic god]] (and don't expect TimeTravel or BigDamnVillains to fix it either).
21st Jun '17 8:25:53 PM UlyssesYeahThatOne
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-->'''Rorschach:''' Never compromise. Even in the face of Apocalypse, never compromise. [[spoiler: Seconds after that, Dr. Manhattan blows him up.]]
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