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22nd Mar '17 3:54:22 AM rodneyAnonymous
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** Obi-Wan's mission to kill General Grievous is described as one of these (as well as a UriahGambit) in [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith the novelization]]. Obi-Wan succeeds and kills Grievous? That's one less pawn that Palpatine would otherwise have to dispose of later. Grievous kills Obi-Wan? One less Jedi in Palpatine's way. The end result of the battle is rather irrelevant; the entire point is to make sure Obi-Wan isn't on Coruscant, where he would otherwise likely be able to stop Anakin from turning to TheDarkSide.

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** Obi-Wan's mission to kill General Grievous is described as one of these (as well as a UriahGambit) in [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith the novelization]]. Obi-Wan succeeds and kills Grievous? That's one less pawn that Palpatine would otherwise have to dispose of later. Grievous kills Obi-Wan? One less Jedi in Palpatine's way. The end result of the battle is rather irrelevant; the entire point is to make sure Obi-Wan isn't on Coruscant, where he would otherwise likely be able to stop Anakin from turning to TheDarkSide.
18th Mar '17 6:19:07 PM nombretomado
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* {{Neopets}}: In the Faerie's Ruin plot [[spoiler:Xandra]]'s second plan. The heroes try to get a special artifact to reverse the spell that transformed the faeries into stone. It doesn't matter if they succeed or not, either way Fairy land is screwed. [[spoiler:The artifact is useless by itself and is just a power amplifier. Even if the heroes get the artifact on time Xandra will simply use the artifact to transform the heroes into stone too.]]

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* {{Neopets}}: {{Website/Neopets}}: In the Faerie's Ruin plot [[spoiler:Xandra]]'s second plan. The heroes try to get a special artifact to reverse the spell that transformed the faeries into stone. It doesn't matter if they succeed or not, either way Fairy land is screwed. [[spoiler:The artifact is useless by itself and is just a power amplifier. Even if the heroes get the artifact on time Xandra will simply use the artifact to transform the heroes into stone too.]]



** Recently given a bit of insight in "Ayla and the Birthday Brawl" chapter 11, Ayla tells a minor character the truth on a detail. He then gives a little inner monologue on how this helps. Either it disarms the person, or he gains crucial details. Whatever happens, he gets out ahead.

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** Recently given Given a bit of insight in "Ayla and the Birthday Brawl" chapter 11, Ayla tells a minor character the truth on a detail. He then gives a little inner monologue on how this helps. Either it disarms the person, or he gains crucial details. Whatever happens, he gets out ahead.
10th Mar '17 3:20:58 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* Frequently the primary style behind the Scorpion Clan in ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'', both in game mechanics and in storyline, consist of losing to win. Attacking them politically means they indulge in slander and blackmail; attacking them militarily means they lay horrific traps and pull you into impossible wars all the while. This has proven to be a catch-22 for the writers, as it's a Wall Banger if the clan doesn't salvage anything from a defeat, and if they're never truly defeated. They're also notorious for claiming everything is JUSTASPLANNED, even unambiguous defeats.

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* Frequently the primary style behind the Scorpion Clan in ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'', both in game mechanics and in storyline, consist of losing to win. Attacking them politically means they indulge in slander and blackmail; attacking them militarily means they lay horrific traps and pull you into impossible wars all the while. This has proven to be a catch-22 for the writers, as it's a Wall Banger if the clan doesn't salvage anything from a defeat, and if they're never truly defeated. They're also notorious for claiming everything is JUSTASPLANNED, JustAsPlanned, even unambiguous defeats.
10th Mar '17 3:19:19 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* Frequently the primary style behind the Scorpion Clan in ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'', both in game mechanics and in storyline, consist of losing to win. Attacking them politically means they indulge in slander and blackmail; attacking them militarily means they lay horrific traps and pull you into impossible wars all the while. This has proven to be a catch-22 for the writers, as it's a Wall Banger if the clan doesn't salvage anything from a defeat, and if they're never truly defeated.

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* Frequently the primary style behind the Scorpion Clan in ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'', both in game mechanics and in storyline, consist of losing to win. Attacking them politically means they indulge in slander and blackmail; attacking them militarily means they lay horrific traps and pull you into impossible wars all the while. This has proven to be a catch-22 for the writers, as it's a Wall Banger if the clan doesn't salvage anything from a defeat, and if they're never truly defeated. They're also notorious for claiming everything is JUSTASPLANNED, even unambiguous defeats.
5th Jan '17 6:54:38 PM FordPrefect
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** At the end of 3rd edition, Mephistopholes provides incredible amounts of power to mortals (through control over Hellfire) for almost nothing, but Devils in the D&D universe draw their power almost exclusively from the torment of damned souls, so if/when heroes defeat these evil cults, Mephistopholes reaps their souls and receives a massive boost in power.

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** At the end of 3rd edition, Mephistopholes Mephistopheles provides incredible amounts of power to mortals (through control over Hellfire) for almost nothing, but Devils in the D&D universe draw their power almost exclusively from the torment of damned souls, so if/when heroes defeat these evil cults, Mephistopholes Mephistopheles reaps their souls and receives a massive boost in power.
5th Jan '17 12:04:16 PM GoblinCipher
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** The [[VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma third game]] is orchestrated by [[spoiler: Delta, AKA Brother - the founder of Free The Soul - who [[MemeticMutation has complex reasons.]] He needs Diana and Sigma to give birth to his sister and himself then send them back in time in one timeline, to fail in another and then set up the events of the second game, as well as Akane and Junpei. He also needs everyone to work together to prevent the outbreak of Radical-6, which he orchestrated in the hopes that he could kill a specific target among 6 billion people. To get everyone out and prevent the release of Radical-6 means he's successfully created SHIFTers who can prevent [[ApocalypseWow an even worse event than Radical-6]].]]

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** The [[VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma third game]] is orchestrated by [[spoiler: Delta, AKA Brother - the founder of Free The Soul - who [[MemeticMutation has complex reasons.]] He needs Diana and Sigma to give birth to his sister and himself then send them back in time in one timeline, to fail in another and then set up the events of the second game, as well as Akane and Junpei. He also needs everyone to work together to prevent the outbreak of Radical-6, which he orchestrated in the hopes that he could kill a specific target among 6 billion people. To get everyone out and prevent the release of Radical-6 means he's successfully created SHIFTers [=SHIFTers=] who can prevent [[ApocalypseWow an even worse event than Radical-6]].]]
3rd Jan '17 1:01:08 PM TotemicHero
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** Used against Tarquin when [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html Halley gives him the choice of grabbing two arrows from the air, thus losing his grip, or taking one or two arrows to the head.]]
29th Nov '16 7:46:33 AM Eddy1215
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* ''Fanfic/YoungJusticeDarknessFalls'': Lex Luthor gives Superboy a booklet with "all" the information on the plans the light has. If any hero fails to stop their plans shown in the book, well then all the better for the light. If they do manage to put some of them to rest, then it weakens the strengths of many of Luthor's partners, making him better poised to take over light operations thanks to his own private resources. The more resources removed also gives Luthor more space to have a clean bill as he prepared for his next goal: becoming president. And more to the point, the whole reason he gave them the plans in the first place was to undermine Darkseid's plans for earth. Regardless of the outcome, Luthor would've gained from the result.

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* ''Fanfic/YoungJusticeDarknessFalls'': Lex Luthor gives Superboy a booklet with "all" the information on the plans the light Light has. If any hero fails to stop their plans shown in the book, well then all the better for the light. Light. If they do manage to put some of them to rest, then it weakens the strengths of many of Luthor's partners, making him better poised to take over light Light operations thanks to his own private resources. The more resources removed also gives Luthor more space to have a clean bill as he prepared for his next goal: becoming president. And more to the point, the whole reason he gave them the plans in the first place was to undermine Darkseid's plans for earth. Regardless of the outcome, Luthor would've gained from the result.
29th Nov '16 1:19:27 AM EricW
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* ''Fanfic/YoungJusticeDarknessFalls'': Lex Luthor gives Superboy a booklet with "all" the information on the plans the light has. If any hero fails to stop their plans shown in the book, well then all the better for the light. If they do manage to put some of them to rest, then it weakens the strengths of many of Luthor's partners, making him better poised to take over light operations thanks to his own private resources. The more resources removed also gives Luthor more space to have a clean bill as he prepared for his next goal: becoming president. And more to the point, the whole reason he gave them the plans in the first place was to undermine Darkseid's plans for earth. Regardless of the outcome, Luthor would've gained from the result.
25th Nov '16 5:58:36 PM ZimFan89
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* In ''FanFic/TheBridge'', the BigBad, Bagan, pulls one that makes up the entirety of the "Enjin Arc". Sending away one of his soldiers, Monster X, to the Equestria Girls world after he started turning into Kaizer Ghidorah; he deploys one of his aspects called Enjin to kill X/Kaizer and take his powers. It turns out this was partly a ploy to get the attention of the BigGood, Harmony, and bring her realm close to his so he could attack her directly since she's the only being on a similar power tier to him. Enjin succeeds in killing Monster X and the sirens allied with him and Bagan succeeds in killing Harmony? Enjin will drain them of their power and bring it back to enhance Bagan, who's just removed the one character who had a good chance at stopping him. Enjin succeeds but Bagan fails? Still get the power-up, Bagan can just teleport himself back to his realm to avoid the possibility of Harmony killing him, and the damage to Harmony's realm inside the Tree of Harmony from two PhysicalGod tier characters fighting in it will severe her connection to Equestria. Both fail? Damage is still done to the Tree of Harmony and without any links between Enjin and his master, a stronger Monster X will just think he killed an outside threat and will still loyally serve Bagan after his master plays BenevolentBoss and heals him after the fighting. [[spoiler: Last part happens and no one is the wiser.]]

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* In ''FanFic/TheBridge'', the BigBad, Bagan, pulls one that makes up the entirety of the "Enjin Arc". Sending away one of his soldiers, Monster X, to the Equestria Girls world after he started turning into Kaizer Ghidorah; Ghidorah, he deploys one of his aspects called Enjin to kill X/Kaizer and take his powers. It turns out this was partly a ploy to get the attention of the BigGood, Harmony, and bring her realm close to his so he could attack her directly since she's the only being on a similar power tier to him. Enjin succeeds in killing Monster X and the sirens allied with him and Bagan succeeds in killing Harmony? Enjin will drain them of their power and bring it back to enhance Bagan, who's just removed the one character who had a good chance at stopping him. Enjin succeeds but Bagan fails? Still get the power-up, Bagan can just teleport himself back to his realm to avoid the possibility of Harmony killing him, and the damage to Harmony's realm inside the Tree of Harmony from two PhysicalGod tier characters fighting in it will severe her connection to Equestria. Both fail? Damage is still done to the Tree of Harmony and without any links between Enjin and his master, a stronger Monster X will just think he killed an outside threat and will still loyally serve Bagan after his master plays BenevolentBoss and heals him after the fighting. [[spoiler: Last part happens and no one is the wiser.]]]]
* ''Fanfic/TheNewAdventuresOfInvaderZim'': At Norlock's prodding, the Tallest set up Zim and Tak's [[EvilVersusEvil competition]] for control of Earth as this -- if Tak wins, Zim finally dies. If Zim wins, they [[KickedUpstairs appoint him ruler]] of a [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet completely out of the way planet]], keeping him out of their hair. And either way, they add another planet to the Empire.
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