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19th Sep '17 4:01:58 PM Lopiny
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* Weirdly enough, the titular amorph of ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' pulls off a minor one of these while investigating a mysterious human-cannonball-related death at a circus in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090730.html this strip.]] Schlock's plan here hired reinforcements or sent Jud Shafter to an early death. His friend considers both a plus.

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* Weirdly enough, the titular amorph of ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' pulls off a minor one of these while investigating a mysterious human-cannonball-related death at a circus in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090730.html this strip.]] Schlock's plan here hired reinforcements or sent Jud Shafter to an early death. His friend considers both a plus. [[spoiler:It was sort-of the former, but more accurately it became Schlock's ace in the hole while Schlock himself became the distraction]].
7th Aug '17 2:19:49 AM MorphinBrony
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[-[[caption-width-right:350:ThePlan is to stab you five times with MortonsFork. The faster the pathway, the better the outcome.[[note:Of course, you could [[SpannerInTheWork take the MacGuffin for yourself and turn the dragon against me]], but [[EvilCannotComprehendGood you would be foolish to try.]]]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350:ThePlan is to stab you five times with MortonsFork. The faster the pathway, the better the outcome.[[note:Of [[note]] Of course, you could [[SpannerInTheWork [[SpannerInTheWorks take the MacGuffin for yourself and turn the dragon against me]], but [[EvilCannotComprehendGood you would be foolish to try.]]]]-]
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7th Aug '17 2:16:06 AM MorphinBrony
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[-[[caption-width-right:350:ThePlan is to stab you five times with MortonsFork. The faster the pathway, the better the outcome.]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350:ThePlan is to stab you five times with MortonsFork. The faster the pathway, the better the outcome.]]-]
[[note:Of course, you could [[SpannerInTheWork take the MacGuffin for yourself and turn the dragon against me]], but [[EvilCannotComprehendGood you would be foolish to try.]]]]-]
27th Jun '17 11:19:55 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** In Special 4: Kitten & Tzeentch play a Children's Card Game, Tzeentch, Chaos god of trickery and schoolyard bully, ''still'' wins at Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker [[spoiler: a.k.a. TableTopGame/YuGiOh]] due his actions. While he lost [[spoiler:Magnus's]] soul he still locked him and Little Kitten in their now-current forms being his [[spoiler:Daemon Primarch]] for the former and turning dull silver ([[PaintingTheMedium even his text]]) into a dull silver. What's worse is they're going to a certain estination and Tzeentch's tricks will make it a lot harder for them.

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** In Special 4: Kitten & Tzeentch play a Children's Card Game, Tzeentch, Chaos god of trickery and schoolyard bully, ''still'' wins at Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker [[spoiler: a.k.a. TableTopGame/YuGiOh]] due his actions. While he lost [[spoiler:Magnus's]] soul he still locked him and Little Kitten in their now-current forms being his [[spoiler:Daemon Primarch]] for the former and turning the Custodian into a dull silver ([[PaintingTheMedium even his text]]) into a dull silver. text]]). What's worse is they're going to a certain estination destination and Tzeentch's tricks will make it a lot harder for them.them and while it doesn't slow them much on their first stop [[spoiler:Mangus]] is still worried about [[spoiler: his father]] making chicken jokes at his expense.
10th Jun '17 1:34:12 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Ayla and the Networks'', in the ''WhateleyUniverse'' the principle is lampshaded. In the middle of a Gambit Pile-up, the main star gets a smirk. "Xanatos Gambit?" "Xanatos Gambit."

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* In ''Ayla and the Networks'', in the ''WhateleyUniverse'' ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' the principle is lampshaded. In the middle of a Gambit Pile-up, the main star gets a smirk. "Xanatos Gambit?" "Xanatos Gambit."
4th Jun '17 6:26:10 PM nombretomado
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'''Remember: It's only a Xanatos Gambit if ''all'' the ''plausible'' outcomes benefit the mastermind in some way.''' At the very least, the planner has to benefit [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose regardless of whether the obvious plan succeeds or fails.]] This is not a shorthand for "any clever, complex, evil plan." You may want EvilPlan for that. Instances of this term that use "Xanatos Gambit" without the key quality of "all (or at least two) plausible outcomes always benefit the mastermind" are ''WRONG''. Please fix them wherever you see them at TVTropes. If you can't decide what kind of plan it is, use ThePlan which is the supertrope for plans in general.


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'''Remember: It's only a Xanatos Gambit if ''all'' the ''plausible'' outcomes benefit the mastermind in some way.''' At the very least, the planner has to benefit [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose regardless of whether the obvious plan succeeds or fails.]] This is not a shorthand for "any clever, complex, evil plan." You may want EvilPlan for that. Instances of this term that use "Xanatos Gambit" without the key quality of "all (or at least two) plausible outcomes always benefit the mastermind" are ''WRONG''. Please fix them wherever you see them at TVTropes.Wiki/TVTropes. If you can't decide what kind of plan it is, use ThePlan which is the supertrope for plans in general.

12th Apr '17 1:35:48 PM Jgamer
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* The Mastermind of ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is obsessed is with despair, and their plan is ultimately to inflict despair on as many people as possible. [[spoiler: She doesn't exempt herself from the despair. When Naegi ultimately nixes her plans by rallying the students together to end the Mutual Killing Game, she's ecstatic over her own despair over her plan falling apart and gleefully executes herself so that she can feel the ultimate despair of death.]]
10th Apr '17 1:55:30 PM DustSnitch
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* The overarching plot of the Bible (at least according to mainstream Christian interpretations). Adam sinned by deciding humans could decide for themselves what was good or evil, "tainting" all future humans (which, since he and Eve were the First, is ALL humanity) with sin and death, and Jesus gives himself to counter-act this, the life of a perfect man (Adam) for the life of a perfect man (Jesus). Afterwards, everything is basically a Xanatos Gambit by God against Satan. Satan and the wicked have dominion over the earth and can (have, and will) persecute God's true followers and will attempt to destroy them. This could go several ways. 1) If the "wicked" have good hearts, no matter what, they will be called and welcomed to God's followers. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. 2) The wicked try to ignore God's people and continue ruling themselves. They are unable to successfully rule themselves, as God had predicted, and they will be removed from power. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. 3) The wicked and hard-hearted attempt to destroy God's followers. Prophesies are fulfilled, Har-magedon begins, they are destroyed, the good-hearted are heralded into an eternity of happiness in a paradise earth, Satan and his demons are imprisoned and eventually destroyed, resolving the issue of sovereignty once and for all and ending in the destruction of all evil for all time. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. This comes across in ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe''.

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The overarching plot of the Bible (at least according to mainstream Christian interpretations). Adam sinned by deciding humans could decide for themselves what was good or evil, "tainting" all future humans (which, since he and Eve were the First, is ALL humanity) with sin and death, and Jesus gives himself to counter-act this, the life of a perfect man (Adam) for the life of a perfect man (Jesus). Afterwards, everything is basically a Xanatos Gambit by God against Satan. Satan and the wicked have dominion over the earth and can (have, and will) persecute God's true followers and will attempt to destroy them. This could go several ways. 1) If the "wicked" have good hearts, no matter what, they will be called and welcomed to God's followers. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. 2) The wicked try to ignore God's people and continue ruling themselves. They are unable to successfully rule themselves, as God had predicted, and they will be removed from power. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. 3) The wicked and hard-hearted attempt to destroy God's followers. Prophesies are fulfilled, Har-magedon a battle at Armageddon begins, they are destroyed, the good-hearted are heralded into an eternity of happiness in a paradise earth, Satan and his demons are imprisoned and eventually destroyed, resolving the issue of sovereignty once and for all and ending in the destruction of all evil for all time. Satan loses, Jehovah wins. This comes across in ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe''.''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe''.
** In the Literature/BookOfGenesis, Joseph plays one when he demands that the brothers give up Benjamin to be his slave and themselves return to Canaan safely. That way, he ensure that either he gets to keep Benjamin with him (if his brothers treat Benjamin like a dispensable family member, as they treated Joseph years ago), or his brothers show a sufficient CharacterArc by refusing to leave Benjamin in Egypt, in which case he reconciles with all of them and brings his entire clan over to Egypt. Luckily for the Israelites, the latter plan eventuates.
1st Apr '17 12:11:19 AM DastardlyDemolition
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** In Special 4: Kitten & Tzeentch play a Children's Card Game, Tzeentch, Chaos god of trickery and schoolyard bully, ''still'' wins at Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker [[spoiler: a.k.a. TableTopGame/YuGiOh]] due his actions. While he lost [[spoiler:Magnus's]] soul he still locked him and Little Kitten in their now-current forms being his [[spoiler:Daemon Primarch]] for the former and turning dull silver ([[PaintingTheMedium even his text]]) into a dull silver. What's worse is they're going to a certain estination and Tzeentch's tricks will make it a lot harder for them.
31st Mar '17 4:54:36 AM Doug86
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* In ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', Comicbook/LexLuthor sets up the fight between Comicbook/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/{{Batman}} so that whoever wins the fight, he wins. He's been manipulating Bruce into a paranoid [[UnstoppableRage rage]], so that the Dark Knight is prepared to [[BatmanGrabsAGun kill]] the Man of Steel, seeing him as a dangerous alien and a threat to humanity. Then Lex kidnaps Martha Kent, offering Clark a SadisticChoice - kill Batman or let Martha die. So the possible outcomes:

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* In ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', Comicbook/LexLuthor sets up the fight between Comicbook/{{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/{{Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} so that whoever wins the fight, he wins. He's been manipulating Bruce into a paranoid [[UnstoppableRage rage]], so that the Dark Knight is prepared to [[BatmanGrabsAGun kill]] the Man of Steel, seeing him as a dangerous alien and a threat to humanity. Then Lex kidnaps Martha Kent, offering Clark a SadisticChoice - kill Batman or let Martha die. So the possible outcomes:
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