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30th Aug '16 1:43:27 PM ShorinBJ
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* There's a glaring example in the ''Weather Warden'' book series by Rachel Caine. The lead character, Joanne, has a supernatural adult daughter named Imara, who technically doesn't age. In the fifth book, Firestorm, a character comments to Joanne that she is "plenty old enough" to have an adult daughter. Joanne's character is ''twenty-eight'' years old, there's no way she could have an adult daughter. Suppose Imara is twenty years old; that would mean Jo had her at eight years old.

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* There's a glaring example in the ''Weather Warden'' book series by Rachel Caine. The lead character, Joanne, has a supernatural adult daughter named Imara, who technically doesn't age. In the fifth book, Firestorm, a character comments to Joanne that she is "plenty old enough" to have an adult daughter. Joanne's character is ''twenty-eight'' years old, there's no way she could have an adult daughter. Suppose Imara is twenty years old; that would mean Jo had her at eight years old. Granted, girls as young as five giving birth have been documented, but the clear implication of the above statement is that Jo is old enough to have had a child at a typical age long enough ago that that child would be an adult.



* In the ''Literature/NightHuntress'' series by Jeanience Frost, Annette says she was 14 when she was forced into an arranged marriage, and met Bones "several years" after. If we conservatively call "several" three, she was 17. She conceived a child ''after'' that, as she states that the father could have been either her husband or Bones. So we have her giving birth at probably 18. She describes being ill for months following the breech delivery, during which time Bones helped her recover. Then she relates his being sent to Australia and returning 19 years later to make her a vampire. So she was ''at least'' 37. But the same book states her age as being 36 when she was turned. This works only if we take "several" to mean "two." Which it really doesn't.

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* In the ''Literature/NightHuntress'' series by Jeanience Jeaniene Frost, Annette says she was 14 when she was forced into an arranged marriage, and met Bones "several years" after. If we conservatively call "several" three, she was 17. She conceived a child ''after'' that, as she states that the father could have been either her husband or Bones. So we have her giving birth at probably 18.18 or older. She describes being ill for months following the breech delivery, during which time Bones helped her recover. Then she relates his being sent to Australia and returning 19 years later to make her a vampire. So she was ''at least'' 37. But the same book states her age as being 36 when she was turned. This works only if we take "several" to mean "two." Which it really doesn't.
29th Aug '16 6:17:44 AM Marios2
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Compare SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome, NotAllowedToGrowUp, and LongestPregnancyEver, where the writers ''can'' do math; they're just intentionally fudging it. See also SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale and NotDrawnToScale. Possibly the root cause of EverybodyHatesMathematics. Might even involve EEqualsMCHammer. YouFailStatisticsForever is a subtrope.

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Compare SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome, NotAllowedToGrowUp, and LongestPregnancyEver, where the writers ''can'' do math; they're just intentionally fudging it. See also SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale and NotDrawnToScale. Possibly the root cause of EverybodyHatesMathematics. Might even involve EEqualsMCHammer. YouFailStatisticsForever ArtisticLicenseStatistics is a subtrope.
27th Aug '16 2:22:11 PM __Vano
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A natural habitat for the MST3KMantra and FanWank, as in many cases, these errors are not important for the plot ([[NotDrawnToScale even when they are]]).
23rd Aug '16 1:24:15 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** According to ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'', 33 [[SuperSoldier Spartan-IIs]] survive the augmentation process in the year 2525, of which 28 survive to 2552, of which 25 were available for Operation: RED FLAG. However, the numbers in media released since ''[=TFoR=]'' don't add up to this at all: Three Spartans go MIA in ''VideoGame/HaloWars'', two more are revealed to have been MIA in ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'', seven die in ''Anime/HaloLegends'', two more die in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and three of the supposed 25 [[ComicBook/TheHaloGraphicNovel were]] [[Literature/HaloGlasslands deployed]] [[VideoGame/HaloReach elsewhere]] during the preparations for RED FLAG. This means there only could have been 13 Spartans available for RED FLAG in 2552. This took ten years to be rectified, until "[[VideoGame/HaloReach Dr. Halsey's journal]]" (co-written by ''[=TFoR=]''[='s=] author) implied that the gaps (and then some) were filled by [[NotQuiteDead secretly resuscitated Spartans]] (not part of the original 33 graduated ones) who were presumed dead or crippled in augmentations. This allows for up to 37 "washouts" to have become Spartan-[=IIs=] by 2552 (with the protagonists of ''ComicBook/HaloBloodLine'' implied to be among this number).

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** According to ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'', 33 [[SuperSoldier Spartan-IIs]] survive the augmentation process in the year 2525, of which 28 survive to 2552, of which 25 were available for Operation: RED FLAG. However, the numbers in media released since ''[=TFoR=]'' don't add up to this at all: Three Spartans go MIA in ''VideoGame/HaloWars'', two more are revealed to have been MIA in ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'', seven die in ''Anime/HaloLegends'', two more die in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and three of the supposed 25 [[ComicBook/TheHaloGraphicNovel were]] [[Literature/HaloGlasslands deployed]] [[VideoGame/HaloReach elsewhere]] during the preparations for RED FLAG. This means there only could have been 13 Spartans available for RED FLAG in 2552. This took ten years to be rectified, until "[[VideoGame/HaloReach Dr. Halsey's journal]]" (co-written by ''[=TFoR=]''[='s=] author) implied that the gaps (and then some) were filled by [[NotQuiteDead secretly resuscitated Spartans]] (not part of the original 33 graduated ones) who were presumed dead or crippled in augmentations. This allows for up to 37 "washouts" to have also become Spartan-[=IIs=] by 2552 (with the protagonists of ''ComicBook/HaloBloodLine'' implied to be among this number).
23rd Aug '16 1:17:07 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAns). Also; Legends had even more casualties, if we count the ones who were augmented but discharged or committed suicide. Also, getting rid of a redundant statement (don't need to state that there were only five casualties when the first sentence already indicates that). Also, Halsey's journal might not really count as expanded universe, since it was included with ''Reach'' (the game).ndSapphire'', the Pokemon "Wailord", the largest Pokemon in the game, has a weight that doesn't seem to match it: Wailord is 14 metres high, and weighs 398 kilograms. Both these numbers are ''big'', but it's weight isn't ''nearly'' as high as it should be. As it's official description states, it's roughly the height of a 5 storey building, but seeing as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average human weighs 62 kg,]] it weighs less than a group of 7 people. Actual whales are smaller yet weigh ''at least'' a few tonnes.

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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAns). Also; Legends had even more casualties, if we count the ones who were augmented but discharged or committed suicide. Also, getting rid of a redundant statement (don't need to state that there were only five casualties when the first sentence already indicates that). Also, Halsey's journal might not really count as expanded universe, since it was included with ''Reach'' (the game).ndSapphire'', ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'', the Pokemon "Wailord", the largest Pokemon in the game, has a weight that doesn't seem to match it: Wailord is 14 metres high, and weighs 398 kilograms. Both these numbers are ''big'', but it's weight isn't ''nearly'' as high as it should be. As it's official description states, it's roughly the height of a 5 storey building, but seeing as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average human weighs 62 kg,]] it weighs less than a group of 7 people. Actual whales are smaller yet weigh ''at least'' a few tonnes.
23rd Aug '16 1:15:47 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** According to ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'', 33 [[SuperSoldier Spartans]] graduate from training in the year 2525, of which 28 survive to 2552. Only five are stated to have died in the war, yet the media released since ''[=TFoR=]'' has too many casualties. Three Spartans go MIA in ''VideoGame/HaloWars'', two more go missing ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'', four die in ''Anime/HaloLegends'', two more die in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and [[ComicBook/HaloBloodline six have]] [[Literature/HaloGlasslands their survival]] [[VideoGame/HaloReach kept secret]]. This means there only could have been 16 Spartans known to be alive during 2552. This took ten years to be rectified, until which a later EU book, "Dr. Halsey's journal", implied that the gaps are filled by [[NotQuiteDead secretly resuscitated Spartans]] (not part of the 33 graduated ones) who were presumed dead in augmentations. This allows for at most 15 more potential Spartans to have rejoined by 2552.

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** According to ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'', 33 [[SuperSoldier Spartans]] graduate from training Spartan-IIs]] survive the augmentation process in the year 2525, of which 28 survive to 2552. Only five are stated to have died in 2552, of which 25 were available for Operation: RED FLAG. However, the war, yet the numbers in media released since ''[=TFoR=]'' has too many casualties. don't add up to this at all: Three Spartans go MIA in ''VideoGame/HaloWars'', two more go missing are revealed to have been MIA in ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'', four seven die in ''Anime/HaloLegends'', two more die in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and [[ComicBook/HaloBloodline six have]] three of the supposed 25 [[ComicBook/TheHaloGraphicNovel were]] [[Literature/HaloGlasslands their survival]] deployed]] [[VideoGame/HaloReach kept secret]]. elsewhere]] during the preparations for RED FLAG. This means there only could have been 16 13 Spartans known to be alive during available for RED FLAG in 2552. This took ten years to be rectified, until which a later EU book, "Dr. "[[VideoGame/HaloReach Dr. Halsey's journal", journal]]" (co-written by ''[=TFoR=]''[='s=] author) implied that the gaps are (and then some) were filled by [[NotQuiteDead secretly resuscitated Spartans]] (not part of the original 33 graduated ones) who were presumed dead or crippled in augmentations. This allows for at most 15 more potential Spartans up to 37 "washouts" to have rejoined become Spartan-[=IIs=] by 2552.2552 (with the protagonists of ''ComicBook/HaloBloodLine'' implied to be among this number).



* In ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'', the Pokemon "Wailord", the largest Pokemon in the game, has a weight that doesn't seem to match it: Wailord is 14 metres high, and weighs 398 kilograms. Both these numbers are ''big'', but it's weight isn't ''nearly'' as high as it should be. As it's official description states, it's roughly the height of a 5 storey building, but seeing as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average human weighs 62 kg,]] it weighs less than a group of 7 people. Actual whales are smaller yet weigh ''at least'' a few tonnes.

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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'', ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAns). Also; Legends had even more casualties, if we count the ones who were augmented but discharged or committed suicide. Also, getting rid of a redundant statement (don't need to state that there were only five casualties when the first sentence already indicates that). Also, Halsey's journal might not really count as expanded universe, since it was included with ''Reach'' (the game).ndSapphire'', the Pokemon "Wailord", the largest Pokemon in the game, has a weight that doesn't seem to match it: Wailord is 14 metres high, and weighs 398 kilograms. Both these numbers are ''big'', but it's weight isn't ''nearly'' as high as it should be. As it's official description states, it's roughly the height of a 5 storey building, but seeing as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average human weighs 62 kg,]] it weighs less than a group of 7 people. Actual whales are smaller yet weigh ''at least'' a few tonnes.
14th Aug '16 7:54:20 AM ThePreciseClimber
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** One ([[TakeYourTime supposedly]]) timed event give you 24 hours to live. A helicopter takes you from one location (Liberty Island) to another (Hong Kong) in a trip that is based on context to be less than eleven hours (23 hours left before the flight, twelve hours have passed a decent amount of time after it). Google Maps gives the distance between the two at 8,047 miles, and the max speed ever recorded on a helicopter was 249.1 mph. To make the trip the helicopter in question would need to go over 730 MPH (almost three times the record) without stopping.[[note]]In the real world opinions are divided on whether this would actually be physically possible, even given superior materials like Deus Ex nanotech; if it is, the helicopter wouldn't look anything like the relatively-conventional Dibbuk.[[/note]]

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** One ([[TakeYourTime supposedly]]) timed event give gives you 24 hours to live. A helicopter takes you from one location (Liberty Island) to another (Hong Kong) in a trip that is based on context to be less than eleven hours (23 hours left before the flight, twelve hours have passed a decent amount of time after it). Google Maps gives the distance between the two at 8,047 miles, and the max speed ever recorded on a helicopter was 249.1 mph. To make the trip the helicopter in question would need to go over 730 MPH (almost three times the record) without stopping.[[note]]In the real world opinions are divided on whether this would actually be physically possible, even given superior materials like Deus Ex nanotech; if it is, the helicopter wouldn't look anything like the relatively-conventional Dibbuk.[[/note]]
13th Aug '16 4:26:53 AM Morgenthaler
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** The ''RogueTrader'' RPG's writers apparently forgot about the square-cube law when giving the size and weight of the starships. The smallest vessels are slightly denser than balsa wood, while cruisers and battlecruisers have roughly the density of smoke.

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** The ''RogueTrader'' ''TabletopGame/RogueTrader'' RPG's writers apparently forgot about the square-cube law when giving the size and weight of the starships. The smallest vessels are slightly denser than balsa wood, while cruisers and battlecruisers have roughly the density of smoke.



* In one edition of ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', it attempts to make the point that magic users are rare by claiming 1 in 1,000 people have some magic ability, 1 in 1,000 of those are true wizards, and out of ''those'', only 1 in 10,000 are cut out to be battle mages. That means a planet with the population of ''modern'' Earth would probably have ''one'' at most. It seems unlikely a medieval setting would have even that many.
* Speaking of which, using the completely bonkers equations given in ''RoleMaster'''s first companion to determine one's character's height, weight, bust size, waist size and shoe size (you know, in case you're a very, very anal GM and your dungeon has Boots of Speed in size seven -- this is RoleMaster, after all, the ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' of pen and paper [=RPG=]s) you would always end up with a monster who had feet twice as long as his waist or somesuch.

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* In one edition of ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', it attempts to make the point that magic users are rare by claiming 1 in 1,000 people have some magic ability, 1 in 1,000 of those are true wizards, and out of ''those'', only 1 in 10,000 are cut out to be battle mages. That means a planet with the population of ''modern'' Earth would probably have ''one'' at most. It seems unlikely a medieval setting would have even that many.
* Speaking of which, using the completely bonkers equations given in ''RoleMaster'''s ''TabletopGame/RoleMaster'''s first companion to determine one's character's height, weight, bust size, waist size and shoe size (you know, in case you're a very, very anal GM and your dungeon has Boots of Speed in size seven -- this is RoleMaster, after all, the ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' of pen and paper [=RPG=]s) you would always end up with a monster who had feet twice as long as his waist or somesuch.
11th Aug '16 10:22:40 PM PaulA
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* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's math is usually spot on, but ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Mirror Dance]]'' seems to have been shifted from two years after the previous book to four years after late in production. This caused attendant chronological confusion throughout the novel.

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* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's math is usually spot on, but ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Mirror Dance]]'' ''Literature/MirrorDance'' seems to have been shifted from two years after the previous book to four years after late in production. This caused attendant chronological confusion throughout the novel.
9th Aug '16 2:45:52 PM Nakayama90
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** Iruka allegedly became the class clown after his parents died due to how lonely he was. Problem is, Iruka was 14 when he died and had graduated when he was 10, thus when his parents died he'd already been a genin for ''four years''.

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** Iruka allegedly became the class clown after his parents died due to how lonely he was. Problem is, Iruka was 14 when he they died and had graduated when he was 10, thus when his parents died he'd already been a genin for ''four years''.


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** For a lesser example, Batman Beyond 2.0 issue #16 has Barbara expressing her belief to Dick that he's held Sam against her for twenty years [[note]]both are in their mid-late sixties at this point[[/note]], but the flashback to the day of the wedding depicts both characters looking as they did in the 90's cartoon, when they were (presumably) in their early-mid 20's. Could be a case of them [[OlderThanTheyLook still looking young for their age]] in the flashback, but still worth noting.
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