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4th Sep '16 5:56:17 PM Euodiachloris
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** [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Sellswords]]] are generally on the side of getting paid by somebody whose money is good for at least the next week -- preferably, month. With very few exceptions. They may, however, change sides if you wave a better possible payout for less danger in front of their noses... unless they're with the Golden Company and are sticking to their contract. Or, like the independent contractor known as Bronn, they have taken the Golden Company as the standard by which to be measured. However, then you get the ones like "[[CarnivalOfKillers The Brave Companions]]": ForTheEvulz rules.
9th Aug '16 11:56:47 PM PaulA
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* Sethra Lavode from the ''{{Dragaera}}'' is a strange example, given that she is loyal above all to TheEmpire but not necessarily the current emperor or empress on the throne. She is also rather a {{Chessmaster}} along with being eons old and ultra-powerful, and it's noted in the ''Khaavren'' series how some villages view her as the EvilOverlord to be defeated in their fairy tales, while she is considered a "fairy godmother" /PhysicalGod the next village over. In the ''Taltos'' series, her actions are more unambiguously good, and she experiences BecomingTheMask [[spoiler: in her kindly and likeable persona as ClassyCatBurglar Kiera]], which was initially just a scheme to monitor organized crime in the Empire.

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Sethra Lavode from the ''{{Dragaera}}'' is a strange example, given that she is loyal above all to TheEmpire but not necessarily the current emperor or empress on the throne. She is also rather a {{Chessmaster}} along with being eons old and ultra-powerful, and it's noted in the ''Khaavren'' series ''Literature/KhaavrenRomances'' sub-series how some villages view her as the EvilOverlord to be defeated in their fairy tales, while she is considered a "fairy godmother" /PhysicalGod the next village over. In the ''Taltos'' series, sub-series, her actions are more unambiguously good, and she experiences BecomingTheMask [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in her kindly and likeable persona as ClassyCatBurglar Kiera]], which was initially just a scheme to monitor organized crime in the Empire.
8th Aug '16 10:05:50 AM longWriter
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** The Ice King is originally presented as a villain with a stereotypical penchant for [[SaveThePrincess kidnapping princesses]]. It slowly becomes clear that he's less evil and more mentally ill, and he never intentionally ''harms'' anyone, so he's more like an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, and he'll even pitch in to help against existential threats to Ooo or the Candy Kingdom. Problem is, even when he's more or less "good," he's still ''crazy'', so [[StopHelpingMe his "help" is often unhelpful]], or he might get confused about what the "good" side is. [[spoiler: His alter-ego Simon Petrikov is unambiguously good, but he's very seldom in control.]]

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** The Ice King is originally presented as a villain with a stereotypical penchant for [[SaveThePrincess kidnapping princesses]]. It slowly becomes clear that he's less evil and more mentally ill, and he never intentionally ''harms'' anyone, so he's more like an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, and he'll even pitch in to help against existential threats to Ooo or the Candy Kingdom. Problem is, even when he's more or less "good," he's still ''crazy'', so [[StopHelpingMe [[UnwantedAssistance his "help" is often unhelpful]], or he might get confused about what the "good" side is. [[spoiler: His alter-ego Simon Petrikov is unambiguously good, but he's very seldom in control.]]
23rd Jul '16 12:35:14 AM 88y53
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' has arguably a few, but from the point of view of most organisations and unaligned people Shepard seems like this. She has a clear goal that is essentially a good one (prevent the Reapers from destroying all advanced organic life) but most people either don't know about the Reapers at all or don't believe they're real. Even those few who do believe the Reapers are real and a threat to all civilisation (such as the Illusive Man) can be badly disappointed at how Shepard treats the problem.
** In the first game, Shepard is mostly a diplomatic investment for the Alliance and a tool for incarcerating a rogue Spectre for the Council. She's in a position where it's impossible to please both and for them Shepard turns out to be something of a liability until right at the end of the game.
** In the second game the player ''can'' have Shepard be very cooperative with Cerberus, but because of how the game mechanics work, Shepard remains a wild card for them as well. And of course, because she's technically working for Cerberus, the Council and the Alliance don't really know where Shepard stands.

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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' has arguably a few, but from the point of view of most organisations and unaligned people Shepard seems like this. She He/She has a clear goal that is essentially a good one (prevent the Reapers from destroying all advanced organic life) but most people either don't know about the Reapers at all or don't believe they're real. Even those few who do believe the Reapers are real and a threat to all civilisation (such as the Illusive Man) can be badly disappointed at how Shepard treats the problem.
** In the first game, Shepard is mostly a diplomatic investment for the Alliance and a tool for incarcerating a rogue Spectre for the Council. She's S/He's in a position where it's impossible to please both and for them Shepard turns out to be something of a liability until right at the end of the game.
** In the second game the player ''can'' have Shepard be very cooperative with Cerberus, but because of how the game mechanics work, Shepard remains a wild card for them as well. And of course, because she's s/he's technically working for Cerberus, the Council and the Alliance don't really know where Shepard stands.



** In the third game Shepard is reinstated in the Alliance Military, but that doesn't mean that she does everything they tell her to or in the way they hoped she would. However, by the time there's no intergalactic politics to meddle in in the game and most of the organizations more or less admit that WeAREStrugglingTogether. Shepard is more of the BigGood at this point, being the symbol of hope and unity as well as the Reapers' feared enemy. So you could argue that most other factions that don't get their shit together and side with him/her are the Wild Cards. There are, of course, still plenty of occasions to piss people off and blur the line between friend and foe.

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** In the third game Shepard is reinstated in the Alliance Military, but that doesn't mean that she s/he does everything they tell her him/her to or in the way they hoped she s/he would. However, by the time there's no intergalactic politics to meddle in in the game and most of the organizations more or less admit that WeAREStrugglingTogether. Shepard is more of the BigGood at this point, being the symbol of hope and unity as well as the Reapers' feared enemy. So you could argue that most other factions that don't get their shit together and side with him/her are the Wild Cards. There are, of course, still plenty of occasions to piss people off and blur the line between friend and foe.
17th Jul '16 9:33:16 AM Nazetrime
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* [[spoiler:Arthéon]] becomes this in later parts of ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'', as he has a goal that puts him at odds with most of the player community, but is permitted to temporarily ally with players if it can help accomplish the goal in question faster.
9th Jul '16 2:49:03 PM nombretomado
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* Vezon from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' would work for whoever had the best chance of killing him at the given moment, however he was mostly out to follow his own twisted yet never quite defined plans. After he gained the power to travel between dimensions, this mostly stopped being a problem for him, although even so, he was once seen doing errands for another, highly powerful character.

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* Vezon from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' would work for whoever had the best chance of killing him at the given moment, however he was mostly out to follow his own twisted yet never quite defined plans. After he gained the power to travel between dimensions, this mostly stopped being a problem for him, although even so, he was once seen doing errands for another, highly powerful character.
28th Jun '16 1:48:38 PM res20stupid
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* Team Q of ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma''. Teams C and D, while also introducing a character each with Carlos and Diana, they also have veteran from the past ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'' games, Junpei and Akane for Team C and Sigma and Phi for Team D. Team Q are made up of three people introduced in their game with their leader, Q, being an amnesiac who got thrown in with the others for the Decision Game (everyone else was a coworker in the DCOM facility).
24th Jun '16 11:33:03 PM GlassSpires
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The Wild Card is so used to swinging between teams that they have no default "good" or "evil" CharacterAlignment or even a "home team". This trope, on the other hand, truly isn't interested in consistently remaining with either side, and will very often simply want both to leave him alone. He can be the sort of person who will stay out of things entirely, until someone else (usually the hero or other sympathetic character) asks him for help.

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The Wild Card is so used to swinging between teams that they have no default "good" or "evil" CharacterAlignment or even a "home team". This trope, on the other hand, He truly isn't interested in consistently remaining with either side, and will very often simply want both to leave him alone. He can be the sort of person who will stay out of things entirely, until someone else (usually the hero or other sympathetic character) asks him for help.
23rd Jun '16 5:16:34 PM Discar
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* Captain Jack Sparrow in ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean''.
-->'''Elizabeth:''' Whose side is Jack on?
-->'''Will:''' At the moment?

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Captain Jack Sparrow in ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean''.
-->'''Elizabeth:'''
Sparrow.
--->'''Elizabeth:'''
Whose side is Jack on?
-->'''Will:'''
on?\\
'''Will:'''
At the moment?
11th Jun '16 7:17:35 AM karstovich2
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* The page quote comes from Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord, a French diplomat who embodied this trope a couple of hundred years ago. He started out under the Gallic Church and King Louis XVI, switched sides to the anti-Church, anti-Royalist Republic, ditched them to help Napoleon seize power, converted ''back'' just as Napoleon had allied with Russia, convened the Senate that legally dismissed Napoleon, and finally threw his support to the Citizen King Louis-Philippe. All this time he remained powerful and influential, and even managed to stay out of prison. TheOtherWiki says he was known as "The Prince of Diplomats" but Napoleon himself came up with the perhaps equally fitting (if less flattering) label "shit in a silk stocking".

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* The page quote comes from Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord, a French diplomat who embodied this trope a couple of hundred years ago. He started out under the Gallic Church and King Louis XVI, switched sides to the anti-Church, anti-Royalist Republic, ditched them to help Napoleon seize power, converted ''back'' just as Napoleon had allied with Russia, convened the Senate that legally dismissed Napoleon, and finally threw his support to the Citizen King Louis-Philippe. All this time he remained powerful and influential, and even managed to stay out of prison. TheOtherWiki says he was known as "The Prince of Diplomats" but Napoleon himself came up with the perhaps equally fitting (if less flattering) label "shit in a silk stocking". More recent scholarship suggests that he saw himself not as betraying any particular regime, but [[LoyalToThePosition always serving the interests of France as a state and nation]].
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