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2nd Aug '16 5:54:53 AM DesertDragon
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* Growing GLBT acceptance in society plus online dating sites/apps have been a double-edged sword. Many historical bars once seen as cornerstones of their local community have been [[SocietyMarchesOn going out of business]] because it's now possible for a queer person to have a healthy dating and social life without needing to rely on the bar scene. Debate wages over whether or not the community is losing its culture as a result.

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* Growing GLBT acceptance in society plus online dating sites/apps have been a double-edged sword. Many historical gay bars once seen as cornerstones of their local community have been [[SocietyMarchesOn going out of business]] because it's now possible for a queer person to have a healthy dating and social life without needing to rely on the bar scene. Debate wages over whether or not the community is losing its culture as a result.
1st Aug '16 3:13:33 PM DesertDragon
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* To show how times have changed, one thing viewers might notice onscreen and in real life is the evolution of how gay bars look from the ''outside''. In the 2000's and earlier, the buildings would be drab and nondescript, with windows that were either boarded up or composed of glass bricks that you couldn't see through; you wouldn't know it was a gay bar (or even a bar at all in some cases) until you stepped inside. Nowadays, the buildings' exteriors are proudly decorated with rainbows and whatnot and feature large clear windows, since being seen inside a gay bar is not quite the scandal it once was.

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* To show how times have changed, one thing viewers might notice onscreen and in real life is the evolution of how gay bars look from the ''outside''. In the 2000's and earlier, the buildings would be drab and nondescript, with windows that were either boarded up or composed of glass bricks that you couldn't see through; you wouldn't know it was a gay bar (or even a bar at all in some cases) until you stepped inside. Nowadays, the buildings' exteriors are proudly decorated with rainbows fresh paint, rainbow flags, and whatnot and feature large clear windows, since being seen inside a gay bar is not quite the scandal it once was.
1st Aug '16 3:11:13 PM DesertDragon
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* TruthInTelevision: In many smaller cities where it's not practical to have more than one or two gay nightspots they can certainly end up looking like this.
** Additionally, in more conservative small towns where the only open gay men are those who are CampGay or otherwise in the TransparentCloset, most patrons to be found in these few gay nightspots tend to fit this stereotype.

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\n* TruthInTelevision: In many smaller cities where it's not practical to have more than one or two gay nightspots they can certainly end up looking like this.
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this. Additionally, in more conservative small towns where the only open openly gay men are those who are CampGay or otherwise in the TransparentCloset, people tend to be [[CampGay rather]] [[ButchLesbian obvious]], most patrons to be found in these few gay nightspots tend to fit this stereotype.



* In a case of SocietyMarchesOn, gay bars have been on the decline in countries with progressive GLBT rights. Due to the rise of online dating and growing acceptance in society, fewer and fewer queer people feel they ''have'' to rely on the bar scene to date or socialize. Where gay bars were once sanctuaries and cornerstones of the community, nowadays they serve a niche interest.

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* In a case To show how times have changed, one thing viewers might notice onscreen and in real life is the evolution of SocietyMarchesOn, how gay bars have been on look from the decline in countries ''outside''. In the 2000's and earlier, the buildings would be drab and nondescript, with progressive windows that were either boarded up or composed of glass bricks that you couldn't see through; you wouldn't know it was a gay bar (or even a bar at all in some cases) until you stepped inside. Nowadays, the buildings' exteriors are proudly decorated with rainbows and whatnot and feature large clear windows, since being seen inside a gay bar is not quite the scandal it once was.
* Growing
GLBT rights. Due to the rise of acceptance in society plus online dating and growing acceptance in society, fewer and fewer sites/apps have been a double-edged sword. Many historical bars once seen as cornerstones of their local community have been [[SocietyMarchesOn going out of business]] because it's now possible for a queer people feel they ''have'' person to have a healthy dating and social life without needing to rely on the bar scene to date scene. Debate wages over whether or socialize. Where gay bars were once sanctuaries and cornerstones of not the community, nowadays they serve community is losing its culture as a niche interest.
result.
1st Aug '16 6:16:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* The infamous 1980 movie ''Cruising'' is made of this trope, with an emphasis on the depraved and scary nature of the gay club scene.
** The main problem was the movie presented the gay S&M scene members it ''specifically searched for and hired'' as representatives of the entire gay scene.
* The Blue Oyster in the ''PoliceAcademy'' series. Parodied in that the patrons love to tango in the classic style and dance with practiced skill, but played straight in that all patrons are stereotypical [[{{Leatherman}} leathermen]] who'll grab the first guy that walks in as a dance partner.
** The fact that the guys who walk in are almost always dressed in police uniforms probably helps.
** Or in at least one case, [[NakedPeopleAreFunny in the nude]].
* The bar where Stifler shows off his dancing skills in ''AmericanPie 3''.
** This being Stifler, he didn't realize which kind of bar it was until the others told him to look around and pay attention. [[GayBarReveal "Oh. My. GOD!"]].
* ''ThePinkPanther Strikes Again'' contains a [[ValuesDissonance moderately offensive]] example.

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* The infamous 1980 movie ''Cruising'' ''Film/{{Cruising}}'' is made of this trope, with an emphasis on the depraved and scary nature of the gay club scene.
**
scene. The main problem was the movie presented the gay S&M scene members it ''specifically searched for and hired'' as representatives of the entire gay scene.
* The Blue Oyster in the ''PoliceAcademy'' ''Film/PoliceAcademy'' series. Parodied in that the patrons love to tango in the classic style and dance with practiced skill, but played straight in that all patrons are stereotypical [[{{Leatherman}} leathermen]] who'll grab the first guy that walks in as a dance partner.
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partner. The fact that the guys who walk in are almost always [[StripperCopConfusion dressed in police uniforms uniforms]] probably helps.
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helps. Or in at least one case, [[NakedPeopleAreFunny in the nude]].
* The bar where Stifler shows off his dancing skills in ''AmericanPie 3''.
**
''Film/AmericanWedding''. This being Stifler, he didn't realize which kind of bar it was until the others told him to look around and pay attention. [[GayBarReveal "Oh. My. GOD!"]].
* ''ThePinkPanther Strikes Again'' ''Film/ThePinkPantherStrikesAgain'' contains a [[ValuesDissonance moderately offensive]] example.
16th Jul '16 10:36:00 AM nombretomado
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* Averted on ''{{Archer}}''. During an operation that requires him to seduce a gay Cuban operative in Miami, Archer visits a Latino gay bar called The Cockfight. It looks like any other bar, except that it has actual cockfighting. Most of the episode is about Archer gradually realizing that the Cuban operative doesn't really fit any of the stereotypes about gay men.

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* Averted on ''{{Archer}}''.''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}''. During an operation that requires him to seduce a gay Cuban operative in Miami, Archer visits a Latino gay bar called The Cockfight. It looks like any other bar, except that it has actual cockfighting. Most of the episode is about Archer gradually realizing that the Cuban operative doesn't really fit any of the stereotypes about gay men.
23rd Jun '16 8:47:19 PM nombretomado
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* ''TimeSquad'' had a robotic version of a gay bar on the season two episode, "Day of the Larrys." Yes, you read that right: a kids' show [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar had what was a pretty obvious depiction of a gay bar]] (though it was more disco than bar [there was a disco ball and disco music playing], the implications were still there).

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* ''TimeSquad'' ''WesternAnimation/TimeSquad'' had a robotic version of a gay bar on the season two episode, "Day of the Larrys." Yes, you read that right: a kids' show [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar had what was a pretty obvious depiction of a gay bar]] (though it was more disco than bar [there was a disco ball and disco music playing], the implications were still there).
9th Jun '16 5:22:00 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in an episode of ''{{Roseanne}}'' in which the main character and her sister visit a lesbian bar with a gay friend. Most if not all of the patrons are regular people having a fun night out at a bar; Roseanne dances with her friend, and the one person who does hit on an uncomfortable Jackie is simply a conventionally attractive woman who sees Jackie sitting alone at the bar, and backs off without incident when told that Jackie isn't interested.

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* Averted in an episode of ''{{Roseanne}}'' ''Series/{{Roseanne}}'' in which the main character and her sister visit a lesbian bar with a gay friend. Most if not all of the patrons are regular people having a fun night out at a bar; Roseanne dances with her friend, and the one person who does hit on an uncomfortable Jackie is simply a conventionally attractive woman who sees Jackie sitting alone at the bar, and backs off without incident when told that Jackie isn't interested.
21st May '16 4:07:38 AM foxley
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* On ''OrangeIsTheNewBlack'', Big Boo is seen visiting a lesbian bar in her flashback. She is the only ButchLesbian to be seen there; all the other women at the bar are {{Lipstick Lesbian}}s.

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* On ''OrangeIsTheNewBlack'', ''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack'', Big Boo is seen visiting a lesbian bar in her flashback. She is the only ButchLesbian to be seen there; all the other women at the bar are {{Lipstick Lesbian}}s.
* ''Series/FatherBrown'': Father Brown and Mrs [=McCarthy=] visit a underground bar for crossdressers in "The Missing Man". Father Brown works out what sort of club it is fairly quickly, but Mrs [=McCarthy=] remains in the dark.
20th May '16 1:58:33 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Babylon in ''QueerAsFolk'' is one of the more well known examples, which follows every bit of this to a "T". Note: Babylon is this to a T for a reason - this was an accurate portrayal of gay life in Manchester at the time. Although this was most certainly not the case for the Americanized show set in Pittsburgh. The city's and the state of Pennsylvania's fairly strict regulations for bars and clubs would not allow anything like the fictional bar to stay open. This led to some very confused and depressed visitors. Not to mention that Pittsburgh's gay community would not be large enough to support a club the size of Babylon. To clarify, there's a very big difference between the two versions of Babylon; one simply being a huge (if flashy) club while the other had even set up at back room for the more intimate dancing and, from time to time, featured elaborate show and strippers. Male strippers of course.

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* Babylon in ''QueerAsFolk'' ''Series/QueerAsFolk'' is one of the more well known examples, which follows every bit of this to a "T". Note: Babylon is this to a T for a reason - this was an accurate portrayal of gay life in Manchester at the time. Although this was most certainly not the case for the Americanized show set in Pittsburgh. The city's and the state of Pennsylvania's fairly strict regulations for bars and clubs would not allow anything like the fictional bar to stay open. This led to some very confused and depressed visitors. Not to mention that Pittsburgh's gay community would not be large enough to support a club the size of Babylon. To clarify, there's a very big difference between the two versions of Babylon; one simply being a huge (if flashy) club while the other had even set up at back room for the more intimate dancing and, from time to time, featured elaborate show and strippers. Male strippers of course.
29th Apr '16 4:28:54 AM aye_amber
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* GayBarReveal on the UK sketch show ''GoodnessGraciousMe''. Two underage boys want to be served drinks in a pub, so to look older, they wear glasses (and can't see a thing.) When they remove the glasses, they realize it's actually a gay bar full of VillagePeople lookalikes, and run away screaming.

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* GayBarReveal on the UK sketch show ''GoodnessGraciousMe''. Two underage boys want to be served drinks in a pub, so to look older, they wear glasses (and can't see a thing.) When they remove the glasses, they realize it's actually a gay bar full of VillagePeople Music/VillagePeople lookalikes, and run away screaming.
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