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12th Dec '15 4:31:36 PM LtFedora
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*** Justified in this instance. When Allied soldiers saw a giant hulk of metal with German insignia coming towards them, they weren't going to be picky on what to call it.
19th Sep '15 3:20:19 AM ElectricBoogaloo
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* ''Film/IronEagle'' and ''Iron Eagle II'' featured Israeli C2 Kfir jets (modifed French Mirage III's) and American-built F-4 Phantom II fighters as Arab [=MiG's=]. The third movie had rebuilt WW2 warbirds playing themselves. ** It also used Israeli F-16 variants as American ones, due to lack of backing by the Pentagon.
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* ''Film/IronEagle'' and ''Iron Eagle II'' featured Israeli C2 Kfir jets (modifed French Mirage III's) and American-built F-4 Phantom II fighters as Arab [=MiG's=]. The third movie had rebuilt WW2 warbirds playing themselves. ** It also used Israeli F-16 variants as American ones, due to lack of backing by the Pentagon.Pentagon. ** The third movie had rebuilt WW2 warbirds playing themselves, with the exception of a [[PropRecycling recycled]] "Zero" T-6 from ''Film/ToraToraTora'' (see below) and weirdly enough a prototype plane called the ARES playing the part of a Me-263.
19th Aug '15 9:53:26 AM AgProv
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* ''Film/{{Valkyrie}}'' completely averts this trope. In an extended early scene set in North Africa, the German hero is seen as part of an Afrika Korps army with lots of impeccably period-accurate tanks, including the Pnz III [[note]]there are very, very, few examples preserved anywhere and only two or three are runners[[/note]]. It takes frequent re-viewing to realise all this is extremely good CGI, possibly some of the best ever committed to film.
13th Aug '15 4:58:38 PM LtFedora
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* The movie ''Film/{{Patton}}'' featured, ironically, postwar M47 Patton tanks playing German tanks, and M47 and M48 as WorldWarII American tanks.
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* The movie ''Film/{{Patton}}'' featured, ironically, postwar M47 Patton tanks playing German tanks, and M47 and M48 as WorldWarII American tanks. Also, the Heinkel He-111s used by the Afrika Korps are played by Spanish-built CASA 2.111s.
3rd Aug '15 4:58:48 AM Miguk
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* Averted and played straight in ''Film/ABridgeTooFar''. Many of the halftracks for both the British and the Germans are genuine. The ones for XXX Corps had many of their parts striped over the years, hence why the majority of them are used for scenes of the Allies assembling prior to the operation (if you look closely, you can see many of them missing components). The Panthers in Arnhem are played by post-war Leopard 1s of the Dutch Army.
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* Averted and played straight in ''Film/ABridgeTooFar''. Many of the halftracks for both the British and the Germans are genuine. The ones for XXX Corps had many of their parts striped stripped over the years, hence why the majority of them are used for scenes of the Allies assembling prior to the operation (if you look closely, you can see many of them missing components). The Panthers in Arnhem are played by post-war Leopard 1s of the Dutch Army.
20th Jun '15 12:02:42 PM DDE
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* ''Film/WhiteTiger'' was supposed to use a very high-quality Tiger replica, which, due to DevelopmentHell, was not complete on time. Instead they went with a dressed-up IS-2, with its turret placement noticeably different, and a result looking more like Porsche's Tiger prototype than the Henschel design. [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane This is the least weird thing about that tank]]. * The Soviet epic ''Liberation'' required hundreds of tanks on-scene at a time for each BigDamnBattle, which resulted in a broad variance in quality, from decent mock-ups minus the very Wehrmacht-specific wheel patterns, to simply repainted Soviet T-54s/62s. The Soviets instead had RareVehicles (T-34-85, introduced in 1944, and IS-3, introduced in May 1945).
15th May '15 7:30:01 AM LtFedora
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* Averted and played straight in ''Film/ABridgeTooFar''. Many of the halftracks for both the British and the Germans are genuine. The ones for XXX Corps had many of their parts striped over the years, hence why the majority of them are used for scenes of the Allies assembling prior to the operation (if you look closely, you can see many of them missing components). The Panthers in Arnhem are played by post-war Leopard 1s of the Dutch Army.
20th Apr '15 1:14:07 PM nombretomado
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* During the ColdWar, Army units at Fort Irwin, California used M551 Sheridan light tanks and humvees dressed up to imitate Soviet T80 tanks and BRDM scout vehicles, respectively. The Sheridans have been replaced by dressed-up M1 Abrams (nicknamed the "M1 KVT" or "Krasnovian Variant Tank"). Of course, these don't see quite as much use these days as most training presently focuses on the WarOnTerror.
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* During the ColdWar, UsefulNotes/ColdWar, Army units at Fort Irwin, California used M551 Sheridan light tanks and humvees dressed up to imitate Soviet T80 tanks and BRDM scout vehicles, respectively. The Sheridans have been replaced by dressed-up M1 Abrams (nicknamed the "M1 KVT" or "Krasnovian Variant Tank"). Of course, these don't see quite as much use these days as most training presently focuses on the WarOnTerror.
10th Apr '15 10:44:56 AM delta1
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** ''Film/{{Midway}}'' does much the same thing in using the T-6 as a stand-in for Japanese planes. Most of the scenes showing American TBD Devastators and SBD Dauntlesses are depicted using SB2U Vindicators. Several restored FM-2 Wildcats were used to represent the [=F4F-4s=], though this is much more justified as the FM-2 is a late-war variant of the F4F and looks mostly identical. Mockups of SBD Dauntless dive bombers and TBD Devastator torpedo bombers also appear in some hangar sequences. Midway is also infamous for using historical stock footage anachronistically, resulting in scenes that show aircraft which did not exist at the time of the battle. Towards the end, there's even a brief shot of an American post-war jet fighter (possibly a [=F9F=] Panther)crashing onto the deck of a carrier.
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** ''Film/{{Midway}}'' does much the same thing in using the T-6 as a stand-in for Japanese planes. Most of the scenes showing American TBD Devastators and SBD Dauntlesses are depicted using SB2U [=SB2U=] Vindicators. Several restored FM-2 Wildcats were used to represent the [=F4F-4s=], though this is much more justified as the FM-2 is a late-war variant of the F4F [=F4F=] and looks mostly identical. Mockups of SBD Dauntless dive bombers and TBD Devastator torpedo bombers also appear in some hangar sequences. Midway is also infamous for using historical stock footage anachronistically, resulting in scenes that show aircraft which did not exist at the time of the battle. Towards the end, there's even a brief shot of an American post-war jet fighter (possibly a [=F9F=] Panther)crashing onto the deck of a carrier.
10th Apr '15 10:43:27 AM delta1
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* ''Film/ToraToraTora'' is based around the bombing of Pearl Harbour. It has a bunch of then-modern ships standing in for the vessels under attack, and a bunch of American T-6 Texan trainers extensively rebuilt to look like the Japanese carrier aircraft. Some of these rebuilds went on to appear in ''Midway'' and ''Pearl Harbor''. Most of the American planes are actual restored planes or reasonably good scale models. When they were filming every single Zero ever made had been destroyed. The Zero is similar to the North American Texan in the first place, making it a natural Weapon Understudy. ** ''Film/{{Midway}}'' is an interesting case in of itself. In addition to the re-purposed and modified AT-6s, a number of restored FM-2s were used to represent the [=F4F-4s=] carried by the American carriers at the time of the battle. The FM-2 is a late-model variant of the Wildcat (technically an [=F4F-8=]) produced by General Motors to provide fighters for small Escort Carriers. Mockups of SBD Dauntless dive bombers and TBD Devastator torpedo bombers also appear in some hangar sequences. However Midway is also infamous for its use of historical stock footage, resulting in battle scenes that are made up of pretty much none of the aircraft that ''actually'' fought in the battle. One notorious scene of an SBD crashing and killing its pilot actually uses stock footage of a very obviously ''jet-powered'' fighter (a [=F9F=] Panther, I believe)!
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* ''Film/ToraToraTora'' is based around the bombing of Pearl Harbour. It has a bunch of then-modern ships standing in for the vessels under attack, and a bunch of North American T-6 Texan trainers extensively rebuilt to look like the Japanese carrier aircraft. Some of these rebuilds went on to appear in ''Midway'' and ''Pearl Harbor''. Most of the American planes are actual restored planes or reasonably good scale models. When they At the time of filming, there were filming every single Zero ever made had been destroyed. The Zero is similar to no flyable Japanese Zeroes in existence, hence the North American Texan in use of the first place, making it a natural Weapon Understudy. T-6 Texan. ** ''Film/{{Midway}}'' is an interesting case in of itself. In addition to does much the re-purposed same thing in using the T-6 as a stand-in for Japanese planes. Most of the scenes showing American TBD Devastators and modified AT-6s, a number of SBD Dauntlesses are depicted using SB2U Vindicators. Several restored FM-2s FM-2 Wildcats were used to represent the [=F4F-4s=] carried by [=F4F-4s=], though this is much more justified as the American carriers at the time of the battle. The FM-2 is a late-model late-war variant of the Wildcat (technically an [=F4F-8=]) produced by General Motors to provide fighters for small Escort Carriers.F4F and looks mostly identical. Mockups of SBD Dauntless dive bombers and TBD Devastator torpedo bombers also appear in some hangar sequences. However Midway is also infamous for its use of using historical stock footage, footage anachronistically, resulting in battle scenes that are made up of pretty much none of the show aircraft that ''actually'' fought in which did not exist at the time of the battle. One notorious scene Towards the end, there's even a brief shot of an SBD crashing and killing its pilot actually uses stock footage of a very obviously ''jet-powered'' American post-war jet fighter (a (possibly a [=F9F=] Panther, I believe)!Panther)crashing onto the deck of a carrier.
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