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14th May '17 6:26:00 PM MagBas
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* Jeanie Bueller and arguably Edward R. Rooney in ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''. Rooney clearly shortsightedly oversteps his authority by the end of the film, but Jeanie never does anything immoral - rather she counters several of ''Ferris''' immoral acts. However, being entirely motivated by spite launches her straight into antagonist territory. And she does [[spoiler: experience a HeelFaceTurn of sorts]].

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* Jeanie Bueller and arguably Edward R. Rooney in ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''. Rooney clearly shortsightedly oversteps his authority by the end of the film, but Jeanie never does anything immoral - rather she counters several of ''Ferris''' immoral acts. However, being entirely motivated by spite launches her straight into antagonist territory. And she does [[spoiler: experience a HeelFaceTurn of sorts]].
14th May '17 6:24:21 PM MagBas
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* The antagonists in ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'' are merely trying to fill a zoo with animals they legally own. The ethics of the whole affair is debatable, but they arguably aren't doing anything evil much less something illegal. The "heroes" of the story fall under DesignatedHero.
7th May '17 11:26:03 AM ading
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* Juror #3 in ''Film/TwelveAngryMen''. As the primary advocate for a "guilty" verdict, he's the closest thing the film has to a villain, even though he honestly does think the kid is guilty. The fact that he's an aggressive, irritable {{Jerkass}} who refuses to listen to the opposing side and the revelation of [[spoiler:the real reason why he's so certain]] prevent him from being a HeroAntagonist.

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* Juror #3 in ''Film/TwelveAngryMen''. ''Film/TwelveAngryMen'':
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As the primary advocate for a "guilty" verdict, he's Juror #3 is the closest thing the film has to a villain, even though he honestly does think the kid is guilty. The fact that he's an aggressive, irritable {{Jerkass}} who refuses to listen to the opposing side and the revelation of [[spoiler:the real reason why he's so certain]] prevent prevents him from being a HeroAntagonist.HeroAntagonist.
** Juror #10 is even more of one. Like Juror #3, he is only trying to prevent someone he honestly believes is a murderer from going free. However, he's also a lunatic who [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain assumed the defendant must have been guilty because of his race]] and openly admits that he doesn't want to hear any fact-based arguments otherwise. Unlike Juror #3, there is never any hint of his having a hidden sympathetic side.
17th Apr '17 9:44:40 AM themisterfree
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* In ''Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy'', there's Kegler- a harmless alien who only starts working for [[BigBad Trakeena]] when his best friend [[NobleTopEnforcer Villamax]] started working for her. He never fought, he never did anything really evil- the closest he got was constructing a laser device that got blown up anyway- but [[spoiler: got killed just because he was onboard the Scorpion Stinger when it crashed (Trakeena had killed Villamax earlier for showing mercy towards the evacuating citizens of Terra Venture)]].
13th Apr '17 11:04:59 PM MJTR
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* The sequel to ''FanFic/AngelOfTheBat'', ''Times of Heresy" actually uses this to increase the threat of one of its characters. Cameron Gram is an abrasive, bigoted, HolierThanThou radio evangelist... And is threatening to Cassandra precisely because he ''isn't'' doing anything illegal or physically violent. Cassandra notes it was easy to write off the previous story's religious antagonist because he was so violent and clearly mentally unstable. Gram, while a major jerkass, is perfectly sane, successful and has been a practicing Christian much longer than she has. According to Cassie, Gram embodies her fear that she is the one being EgocentricallyReligious, not people like Gram.

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* The sequel to ''FanFic/AngelOfTheBat'', ''Times of Heresy" Heresy'' actually uses this to increase the threat of one of its characters. Cameron Gram is an abrasive, bigoted, HolierThanThou radio evangelist... And is threatening to Cassandra precisely because he ''isn't'' doing anything illegal or physically violent. Cassandra notes it was easy to write off the previous story's religious antagonist because he was so violent and clearly mentally unstable. Gram, while a major jerkass, is perfectly sane, successful and has been a practicing Christian much longer than she has. According to Cassie, Gram embodies her fear that she is the one being EgocentricallyReligious, not people like Gram.
13th Apr '17 11:03:38 PM MJTR
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* The sequel to ''FanFic/AngelOfTheBat'', ''Times of Heresy" actually uses this to increase the threat of one of its characters. Cameron Gram is an abrasive, bigoted, HolierThanThou radio evangelist... And is threatening to Cassandra precisely because he ''isn't'' doing anything illegal or physically violent. Cassandra notes it was easy to write off the previous story's religious antagonist because he was so violent and clearly mentally unstable. Gram, while a major jerkass, is perfectly sane, successful and has been a practicing Christian much longer than she has. According to Cassie, Gram embodies her fear that she is the one being EgocentricallyReligious, not people like Gram.
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28th Mar '17 1:06:38 AM Shadowgazer
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In any work of fiction in which the protagonist is a LovableRogue or JustifiedCriminal or [[ClearMyName an innocent person who has been framed for a heinous crime]], the law enforcers chasing after him are inevitably going to appear unsympathetic to the audience, even if their motives are beyond reproach. The hero may even end up fighting them as much as the villain. Authority figures who have to control children (teachers, especially) also make fine default antagonists even without being a SadistTeacher. So do any authority figures [[PunchClockVillain whose job requires them]] [[GoodIsNotNice to be harsh]]: police officers, judges, and [[DrillSergeantNasty drill sergeants]] are all especially prone to this.

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In any work of fiction in which the protagonist is a LovableRogue or JustifiedCriminal or [[ClearMyName an innocent person who has been framed for a heinous crime]], the law enforcers chasing after him are inevitably going to appear unsympathetic to the audience, even if their motives are beyond reproach. The hero may even end up fighting them as much as the villain. Authority figures who have to control children (teachers, especially) also make fine default antagonists even without being a SadistTeacher. So do any authority figures [[PunchClockVillain [[GoodIsNotNice whose job requires them]] [[GoodIsNotNice them to be harsh]]: police officers, judges, and [[DrillSergeantNasty drill sergeants]] are all especially prone to this.



On the other hand, if he is unpleasant but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.

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On the other hand, if he is unpleasant evil but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.
9th Feb '17 6:44:55 PM Aviculors
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** Squidward fits the role even better, simply being irritable and condescending about Spongebob's demeanor. A lot of the older fanbase has actually ended up sympathizing with Squidward over Spongebob, finding the former's irritation justified. Can you blame someone for disliking a neighbor who once blasted techno music for 12 hours?
20th Nov '16 9:54:54 PM DrPsyche
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'': The Bank Teller during the "Shigechi's Harvest" arc ends up as a downplayed example. The heroes find a winning lottery ticket and try to cash it, but the Teller is suspicious of how a bunch of teenagers came across a winning ticket especially as the original owner's name is on it. He expresses a huge amount of joy at accusing them of stealing the ticket and tries to get them arrested which all together isn't unreasonable given the information he has. Though after they successfully tricks them, he apologizes, ashamed of the accusations, and happily pays them the money. They even agree to continue to use his bank to store their winnings and at the end of the day there was no real hard feelings.
5th Nov '16 5:13:27 AM RobTan
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** "Pretty" Ricky Conlan in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' is extremely abrasive and deliberately anatagonises Adonis at a press conference, almost to the point of being a [[{{Heel}} wrestling heel]]. However, he is also a clean fighter and, after narrowly winning on points, tells Adonis that he is [[WorthyOpponent the future of the division]], and his abrasiveness is somewhat justified by the fact that he's being forced into retirement, and that Donnie is getting a title shot on his second professional bout off the strength of his name, while Conlan had to scratch and claw his way up from nothing.

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** "Pretty" Ricky Conlan in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' is extremely abrasive and deliberately anatagonises Adonis at a press conference, almost to the point of being a [[{{Heel}} wrestling heel]]. However, he is also a clean fighter and, after narrowly winning on points, tells Adonis that he is [[WorthyOpponent the future of the division]], and his abrasiveness is somewhat justified by the fact that he's being forced into retirement, retirement in his prime, and that Donnie is getting a title shot on his second professional bout off the strength of his name, while Conlan had to scratch and claw his way up from nothing.
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