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26th May '16 11:02:43 AM AllenbysEyes88
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* Ocatvio on ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. Being voiced [[InkSuitActor and modeled after]] Creator/DannyTrejo, he looks and acts like a hardened criminal, complete with tattoos and an arsenal of guns and knives. But Octavio's actually a harmless guy who occasionally helps Dale with his zany schemes, at worst committing acts of petty fraud like denting Dale's car with a crowbar or selling black market prescription drugs (which, while illegal, is justified in context).



* Ocatvio on ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. Being voiced [[InkSuitActor and modeled after]] Creator/DannyTrejo, he looks and acts like a hardened criminal, complete with tattoos and an arsenal of guns and knives. But Octavio's actually a harmless guy who occasionally helps Dale with his zany schemes, at worst committing acts of petty fraud like denting Dale's car with a crowbar or selling black market prescription drugs.
26th May '16 11:01:55 AM AllenbysEyes88
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* Ocatvio on ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. Being voiced [[InkSuitActor and modeled after]] Creator/DannyTrejo, he looks and acts like a hardened criminal, complete with tattoos and an arsenal of guns and knives. But Octavio's actually a harmless guy who occasionally helps Dale with his zany schemes, at worst committing acts of petty fraud like denting Dale's car with a crowbar or selling black market prescription drugs.
8th Apr '16 2:58:03 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Film/OverTheTop'': Mike Hawk's grandfather never delivered his wayward father's letters to him, sends him to a boarding military academy and tries to take custody of him away from his father. He comes across like an overbearing jerk, but he seems to be acting in an honest attempt to do what he feels is best for his grandson.
12th Mar '16 4:26:23 PM Prfnoff
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* Anime/{{Pokemon}} has several cases of Pokemon trainers who do nothing worse than being huge jerks and fighting against the protagonists with their Pokemon, which is perfectly normal in the Pokemon world. Quite often, they will [[DefeatMeansFriendship become nicer]] by the end of the episode.

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* Anime/{{Pokemon}} ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' has several cases of Pokemon trainers who do nothing worse than being huge jerks and fighting against the protagonists with their Pokemon, which is perfectly normal in the Pokemon world. Quite often, they will [[DefeatMeansFriendship become nicer]] by the end of the episode.



* Max Baer in CinderellaMan is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)

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* Max Baer in CinderellaMan ''Film/CinderellaMan'' is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)
1st Mar '16 7:59:03 AM tromag
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* Max Baer in CinderallaMan is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)

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* Max Baer in CinderallaMan CinderellaMan is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)
1st Mar '16 7:58:32 AM tromag
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* Max Baer in CinderallaMan is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)
23rd Feb '16 7:59:59 AM tromag
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* In ''Film/MyCousinVinny'', the prosecutor and the judge are this. Of course viewers are rooting for Vinny to get the protagonists off the hook for murder, but the prosecutor is a friendly, nice guy who offers Vinny his cabin to stay in to get away from noise that's keeping him from getting any sleep in his motel, and mentions he left a lucrative position in private practice because he felt uncomfortable defending obviously guilty criminals. The judge meanwhile is constantly riding Vinny and annoying him, but only because Vinny refuses to follow proper courtroom procedure, and because he suspects Vinny is lying about his credentials. [[ProperlyParanoid Which he is]].

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* In ''Film/MyCousinVinny'', the prosecutor and the judge are this. Of course viewers are rooting for is ''arguably'' this. He clearly doesn't like Vinny, but his antagonism is a direct result of Vinny to get the protagonists off the hook for murder, but the prosecutor is a friendly, nice guy who offers Vinny his cabin to stay in to get away from noise that's keeping him from getting any sleep in his motel, and mentions he left a lucrative position in private practice because he felt uncomfortable defending obviously guilty criminals. The judge meanwhile is constantly riding flouting legal protocols, and his (accurate) suspicion that Vinny and annoying him, but only because Vinny refuses to follow proper courtroom procedure, and because he suspects Vinny is has been lying about his credentials. [[ProperlyParanoid Which qualifications. Despite this friction, he is]].clearly takes his job serious, and (with only one exception), he never appears to let his dislike impact how he presides over the trial.
19th Feb '16 9:09:36 PM trulymadmoves
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* Francesco from ''WesternAnimation/Cars2''. He's not an unscrupulous racer like the previous film's antagonist, indeed he's a very good sport, but he is obnoxious enough to give [=McQueen=] a motivation in the otherwise Mater-centric story: [=McQueen=] really, really wants to beat this guy.

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* Francesco from ''WesternAnimation/Cars2''. ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars 2}}''. He's not an unscrupulous racer like Chick, the previous film's antagonist, antagonist; indeed he's a very good sport, but he is ''is'' just as obnoxious as Chick, enough to give [=McQueen=] a motivation in the otherwise Mater-centric story: [=McQueen=] really, really wants to beat this guy.
19th Feb '16 9:07:05 PM trulymadmoves
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* Sid from ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory''. He can't really be faulted for mutilating and destroying toys if he doesn't even know that they're alive. His worst actual offense is being a jerk to his younger sister and mutilating ''her'' toys. Sure enough, once he learned that they were alive, he never hurt another toy again (even if they let him know they were alive by scaring him).[[/folder]]

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* Sid from ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory''. He can't really be faulted for mutilating and destroying toys if he doesn't even know that they're alive. His worst actual offense is being a jerk to his younger sister and mutilating ''her'' toys. Sure enough, once he learned that they were alive, he never hurt another toy again (even if they let him know they were alive by scaring him).him).
* Francesco from ''WesternAnimation/Cars2''. He's not an unscrupulous racer like the previous film's antagonist, indeed he's a very good sport, but he is obnoxious enough to give [=McQueen=] a motivation in the otherwise Mater-centric story: [=McQueen=] really, really wants to beat this guy.
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8th Feb '16 5:31:21 AM Venatius
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But sometimes, writers encounter a problem. See, sometimes... what the antagonist is doing? It's not illegal, or even immoral. At all. Like, in a sports story, the antagonist would just be the leader of the OpposingSportsTeam. If, say, you're writing an inspiring story about an underdog who aspires to be a great chef, the antagonist would be a tough-to-please food critic, or the owner of a rival restaurant. Sure, these people's success would make the hero's life worse, but in real life, nobody would hold it against these people. That's just the way the world works. Surely, these stories are forever bound to having both a hero protagonist ''and'' a HeroAntagonist, right? ...right?

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But sometimes, writers encounter a problem. See, sometimes... what the antagonist is doing? It's not illegal, or even immoral. At all. Like, in In a sports story, the antagonist would just be the leader of the OpposingSportsTeam. If, say, you're writing an inspiring story about an underdog who aspires to be a great chef, the antagonist would be a tough-to-please food critic, or the owner of a rival restaurant. Sure, these people's success would make the hero's life worse, but in real life, nobody would hold it against these people. That's just the way the world works. Surely, these stories are forever bound to having both a hero protagonist ''and'' a HeroAntagonist, right? ...right?
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