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17th Jul '17 12:59:24 PM Fireblood
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** In the episode "The Twisted World of Marge Simpson", the Investorettes weren't really doing anything wrong by kicking Marge out of their investment group (Marge herself admitted she didn't like "the whole idea of 'investing'"), and they were well within their rights to compete with her when they both started up mobile snack businesses. But they're such ''jerks'' about it that you're not sad at all when Marge's Mafia goons blow up their truck. Keep in mind, Marge ''didn't'' know that Homer had gotten the Mafia involved for her. The Investorettes on the other hand, ''knowingly'' hired the Yakuza to compete and take down Marge.
** In the episode "Mr. Plow", Homer starts his snow removal business and gets a lot of money for it, but Barney comes with a bigger plow and takes all of Homer's clients, he is presented as the episode villain, but the only wrong thing he ever did was shoot one of the tires of Homer's plow and make a commercial defaming Homer. Aside from that, he is just being a competitor, even at the end when Homer saves him (From the danger that Homer put him in the first place), and he decides that from now on they will be partners as his HeelFaceTurn. One flashback scene shows that Homer is the one that presented alcohol to Barney, ruining his life.
** When Homer returns to college to complete a nuclear science class, he immediately assumes that the Dean is [[DeanBitterman automatically a student-hating villain]] while in fact the Dean is laid back, friendly and the most understanding man you could ever meet.

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** In the episode "The "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E11TheTwistedWorldOfMargeSimpson The Twisted World of Marge Simpson", Simpson]]", the Investorettes weren't really doing anything wrong by kicking Marge out of their investment group (Marge herself admitted she didn't like "the whole idea of 'investing'"), and they were well within their rights to compete with her when they both started up mobile snack businesses. But they're such ''jerks'' about it that you're not sad at all when Marge's Mafia goons blow up their truck. Keep in mind, Marge ''didn't'' know that Homer had gotten the Mafia involved for her. The Investorettes on the other hand, ''knowingly'' hired the Yakuza to compete and take down Marge.
** In the episode "Mr. Plow", "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS4E9MrPlow Mr. Plow]]", Homer starts his snow removal business and gets a lot of money for it, but Barney comes with a bigger plow and takes all of Homer's clients, he is presented as the episode villain, but the only wrong thing he ever did was shoot one of the tires of Homer's plow and make a commercial defaming Homer. Aside from that, he is just being a competitor, even at the end when Homer saves him (From (from the danger that Homer put him in the first place), and he decides that from now on they will be partners as his HeelFaceTurn. One flashback scene shows that Homer is the one that presented first gave alcohol to Barney, ruining his life.
** When Homer returns to college to complete a nuclear science class, he immediately assumes that the Dean is [[DeanBitterman automatically a student-hating villain]] while in fact the Dean is laid back, friendly and the most understanding man you could ever meet. Homer ''still'' treats him as a villain, though, since he needs one to fulfill his college fantasy.
17th Jul '17 12:51:01 PM Fireblood
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* ''Franchise/LesMiserables'' has {{Trope Namer|s}} InspectorJavert, who pursues JustifiedCriminal Jean Valjean because...he broke his parole. How sympathetic he is depends on the adaptation, but as Valjean acknowledges [[spoiler:when he saves Javert's life]], Javert's actions are completely in accordance with the law.

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* ''Franchise/LesMiserables'' has {{Trope Namer|s}} InspectorJavert, who pursues JustifiedCriminal Jean Valjean because...he broke his parole. How sympathetic he is depends on the adaptation, but as Valjean acknowledges [[spoiler:when he saves Javert's life]], Javert's actions are completely in accordance with the law.law, even if he's cruel in doing so.



* Skyler on ''Series/BreakingBad'' only wants to know what her sick husband was up to while she was at home struggling with a disabled son and another kid on the way. Her notable offences include returning an unattractive piece of jewelery she got from her sister, faking labor to avoid being arrested (for something she didn't do), and being luke warm to her husband's sexual advances. She later becomes a typical shrewish, visitation-denying, ex-wife [[spoiler: and an adulterous white collar criminal]], but her main function from early on is to put more pressure on Walt's already stressful double-life, making her somewhat unsympathetic by default. Vince Gilligan has stated that he's disturbed by the level of hatred some of the fans have for her, and if they're still keeping it up by season three it's probably just pure misogyny. Then subverted, as she starts getting involved in Walt's business and proves to be far more level-headed than he.

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* Skyler on ''Series/BreakingBad'' only wants to know what her sick husband was up to while she was at home struggling with a disabled son and another kid on the way. Her notable offences include returning an unattractive piece of jewelery she got from her sister, faking labor to avoid being arrested (for something she didn't do), and being luke warm to her husband's sexual advances. She later becomes a typical shrewish, visitation-denying, ex-wife [[spoiler: and an adulterous white collar criminal]], but her main function from early on is to put more pressure on Walt's already stressful double-life, making her somewhat unsympathetic by default. Vince Gilligan has stated that he's disturbed by the level of hatred some of the fans have for her, and if they're still keeping it up by season three it's probably just pure misogyny.misogyny (Creator/AnnaGunn has defended the character from the {{hatedom}} as well for the same reasons). Then subverted, as she starts getting involved in Walt's business and proves to be far more level-headed than he.



** Captain Edward Jellico could be considered a subversion of this trope. He is given command of the ''Enterprise'' during the "Chain of Command" two-parter and obviously doesn't get along well with the crew. His brusque and demanding style of command makes him easy to dislike, both for the crew and the audience, he appears to lack diplomatic savvy, and he even relieves Riker of his position. Despite this, Jellico is vindicated by his success in resolving the crisis of the day, saving Picard from the Cardassians and averting an armed conflict.

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** Captain Edward Jellico could be considered a subversion of this trope. He is given command of the ''Enterprise'' during the "Chain of Command" two-parter and obviously doesn't get along well with the crew. His brusque and demanding style of command makes him easy to dislike, both for the crew and the audience, he appears to lack diplomatic savvy, and he even relieves Riker of his position. Despite this, Jellico is vindicated by his success in resolving the crisis of the day, saving Picard from the Cardassians and averting an armed conflict. Perhaps an example of GoodIsNotNice by the end.
17th Jul '17 12:42:46 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/TheJudge'' has Dwight Dickham, the prosecuting attorney, goes after the Judge ruthlessly. In his first appearance, he seems like an asshole because he's got a metal, retractable water cup with a pin-up girl on the lid that he [[MundaneMadeAwesome dramatically extends]] with a loud "THWANG!" sound in court. It's also implied that he's taken a [[ItsPersonal special interest]] in the case because of his feelings of moral superiority to the Judge's son and counsel, Hank. In spite of all that, he's still just an honest prosecutor doing his job.
* Max Baer in ''Film/CinderellaMan'' is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.)

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* ''Film/TheJudge'' has Dwight Dickham, the prosecuting attorney, goes go after the Judge ruthlessly. In his first appearance, he seems like an asshole because he's got a metal, retractable water cup with a pin-up girl on the lid that he [[MundaneMadeAwesome dramatically extends]] with a loud "THWANG!" sound in court. It's also implied that he's taken a [[ItsPersonal special interest]] in the case because of his feelings of moral superiority to the Judge's son and counsel, Hank. In spite of all that, he's still just an honest prosecutor doing his job.
* Max Baer in ''Film/CinderellaMan'' is just the boxer who happens to be opposing our hero, and happens to be a very good boxer. He's made the villain by seeming to take a perverse pride in having killed opponents in the ring, and publicly warning that Braddock may not survive his bout. (This [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade contrasts the real Baer]], who was apparently a very nice guy who felt terrible when one of his opponents died, to the point of donating money to his family.family. He also beat a Nazi champion boxer while wearing the Star of David on his boxing shorts.)



** "Pretty" Ricky Conlan in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' is extremely abrasive and deliberately anatagonises Adonis at a press conference, almost to the point of being a [[{{Heel}} wrestling heel]]. However, he is also a clean fighter and, after narrowly winning on points, tells Adonis that he is [[WorthyOpponent the future of the division]], and his abrasiveness is somewhat justified by the fact that he's being forced into retirement in his prime, and that Donnie is getting a title shot on his second professional bout off the strength of his name, while Conlan had to scratch and claw his way up from nothing.
* The Sovereign fall into this trope as they fulfil the role of secondary antagonists in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': they have every reason to be angry that the Guardians stole their batteries, given that not only are those batteries incredibly valuable, but the Guardians were actually hired to ''protect them''. But they're such absolute pompous ''{{jerkass}}es'' that we really don't care.

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** "Pretty" Ricky Conlan in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' is extremely abrasive and deliberately anatagonises antagonizes Adonis at a press conference, almost to the point of being a [[{{Heel}} wrestling heel]]. However, he is also a clean fighter and, after narrowly winning on points, tells Adonis that he is [[WorthyOpponent the future of the division]], and his abrasiveness is somewhat justified by the fact that he's being forced into retirement in his prime, and that Donnie is getting a title shot on his second professional bout off the strength of his name, while Conlan had to scratch and claw his way up from nothing.
* The Sovereign fall into this trope as they fulfil fulfill the role of secondary antagonists in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': they have every reason to be angry that the Guardians stole their batteries, given that not only are those batteries incredibly valuable, but the Guardians were actually hired to ''protect them''. But they're such absolute pompous ''{{jerkass}}es'' that we really don't care.
17th Jul '17 12:37:36 PM Fireblood
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* Inverted with Sheriff Teasle (Brian Dennehy) in ''Film/FirstBlood'' (the first ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'') movie, who actively antagonizes Rambo almost from the beginning, yet is ultimately portrayed as an AntiVillain at worst, and even though he's a {{Jerkass}} about it, he's ultimately just doing his job. His deputy Galt was the one who started the whole mess by abusing Rambo while he was in custody.
17th Jul '17 12:34:25 PM Fireblood
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* Richard "Dick" Vernon in ''Film/TheBreakfastClub''. He's really just an embittered guy who found out teaching wasn't as easy has he thought it would be and takes it out on the students in detention. He also peeks into the personnel files of other teachers.
16th Jul '17 6:07:27 AM Mhazard
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On the other hand, if he is evil but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. Contrasts AntiVillain, a sympathetic villain without doing anything too villainous. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.

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On the other hand, if he is evil but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. Contrasts AntiVillain, a sympathetic and generally likable villain without doing anything too who isn't outright villainous. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.
16th Jul '17 6:05:00 AM Mhazard
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On the other hand, if he is evil but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.

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On the other hand, if he is evil but barely even does anything to fill the "antagonist" role, then he's a PlotIrrelevantVillain. If he isn't necessarily unpleasant--heck, he can be even downright nice--yet his actions are the cause of unpleasant effects for other innocents without his knowing, he's ObliviouslyEvil. Compare HateSink, who isn't the main conflict-maker but acts nasty so the audience has someone to root against. Contrasts AntiVillain, a sympathetic villain without doing anything too villainous. For the {{Fanon}} version, see RonTheDeathEater, where a character is good in Canon, but the fans treat him or her as evil.
1st Jul '17 5:27:15 AM gophergiggles
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has plenty of these -- though, admittedly, they also have plenty of ''genuine'' villains, too. Jet Set and Upper Crust from "Sweet and Elite" are snobby elitists who walk around with their muzzles in the air and disparage Rarity because she comes from a rural town -- the moment that they go from admiring Rarity's hat design to dismissing it as worthless because they just found out she comes from Ponyville is the moment they get revealed as "the bad guys" of the episode. Prince Blueblood in "Best Night Ever" is a RoyalBrat - but if you think about it, he may actually just be trying to shake off a clingy unwanted woman he reasonably could have suspected of being a GoldDigger. Trixie, who is often regarded as one of the show's more memorable villains, was only guilty of showboating and humiliating three of the protagonists in "Boast Busters". When a giant bear trashed the town, Trixie's only real involvement was that she had made claims of being able to stop such a threat.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has plenty of these -- though, admittedly, they also have plenty of ''genuine'' villains, too. Jet Set and Upper Crust from "Sweet and Elite" are snobby elitists who walk around with their muzzles in the air and disparage Rarity because she comes from a rural town -- the moment that they go from admiring Rarity's hat design to dismissing it as worthless because they just found out she comes from Ponyville is the moment they get revealed as "the bad guys" of the episode. Prince Blueblood in "Best Night Ever" is a RoyalBrat - but if you think about it, he may actually just be trying to shake off a clingy unwanted woman he reasonably could have suspected of being a GoldDigger. Trixie, who is often regarded as one of the show's more memorable villains, was only guilty of showboating and humiliating three of the protagonists in "Boast Busters".Busters" (who actually ''started the fight'' by heckling and then challenging Trixie to best them). When a giant bear trashed the town, Trixie's only real involvement was that she had made claims of being able to stop such a threat.
25th Jun '17 4:24:31 AM gophergiggles
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* Done intentionally with the aptly-named fan-favorite Freaky Fred of ''WesternAnimation/CourageTheCowardlyDog'', despite being fondly remembered as one of the most disturbing characters in the entire series alongside legitimately terrifying characters like King Ramses and Katz, is ironically the least malicious and dangerous "villain" to ever appear. He's a truly freaky person, he's obsessed with cutting hair and can't help himself, but his intentions for visiting truly were to visit his Aunt Muriel and he's a polite, genuinely kind person. Just don't make the mistake of getting locked alone in the bathroom with him, or you'll end up bald and scared shitless.
20th Jun '17 3:21:00 AM Argon2
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** In the episode "The Twisted World of Marge Simpson", the Investorettes weren't really doing anything wrong by kicking Marge out of their investment group (Marge herself admitted she didn't like "the whole idea of 'investing'"), and they were well within their rights to compete with her when they both started up mobile snack businesses. But they're such ''jerks'' about it that you're not sad at all when Marge's Mafia goons blow up their truck. Keep in mind, Marge ''didn't'' know about Homer getting the Mafia involved at first, but didn't have much choice to go along with it to save both their necks when they wanted their cut. The Investorettes on the other hand, ''knowingly'' hired the Yakuza to compete and take down Marge.

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** In the episode "The Twisted World of Marge Simpson", the Investorettes weren't really doing anything wrong by kicking Marge out of their investment group (Marge herself admitted she didn't like "the whole idea of 'investing'"), and they were well within their rights to compete with her when they both started up mobile snack businesses. But they're such ''jerks'' about it that you're not sad at all when Marge's Mafia goons blow up their truck. Keep in mind, Marge ''didn't'' know about that Homer getting had gotten the Mafia involved at first, but didn't have much choice to go along with it to save both their necks when they wanted their cut.for her. The Investorettes on the other hand, ''knowingly'' hired the Yakuza to compete and take down Marge.



** If the Cutie Mark Crusaders get a focus episode, there's a 99% chance that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon are to be the "villains" of the story, but they never actually do anything truly evil aside from bullying the Crusaders and acting like obnoxious, stuck-up jerks. The one time Diamond Tiara came closest to doing anything villainous was when she abused her power as editor of a newspaper and even resorted to blackmail in order to keep her employees in line.
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