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May come back to haunt him as [[IronicEcho an explanation]] why a minion won't GiveMeASword. Often results in [[{{ptitleskikbgy4psco}} Screw This, I'm Outta Here.]]

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When a minion or even their NumberTwo, TheDragon, [[YouCantThwartStageOne performs well]] they won't so much praise their effort or reward their good results as warn them "[[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness do not outlive your usefulness]]". Kind of hard to go to work with a smile with ''[[VillainOverride that]]'' [[CyanidePill hanging over your head]].

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When a minion or even their NumberTwo, TheDragon, [[YouCantThwartStageOne NumberTwo (TheDragon) performs well]] well, they won't so much praise their effort or reward their good results as warn them "[[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness do "do not [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlive your usefulness]]". Kind of hard to go to work with a smile with ''[[VillainOverride that]]'' [[CyanidePill hanging over your head]].
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May come back to haunt him as an explanation why a minion won't GiveMeASword. Often results in [[{{ptitleskikbgy4psco}} Screw This, I'm Outta Here.]]

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May come back to haunt him as [[IronicEcho an explanation explanation]] why a minion won't GiveMeASword. Often results in [[{{ptitleskikbgy4psco}} Screw This, I'm Outta Here.]]

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May come back to haunt him as an explanation why a minion won't GiveMeASword. Often results in [[{{ptitleskikbgy4psco}} Screw this, I'm Outta Here.]]

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May come back to haunt him as an explanation why a minion won't GiveMeASword. Often results in [[{{ptitleskikbgy4psco}} Screw this, This, I'm Outta Here.]]



** In the ExpandedUniverse, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had [[TheCallistaTrilogy Bevel Lemelisk]], one of the original designers of the Death Star, killed horribly, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times. Horribly as in:

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** In the ExpandedUniverse, we find out exactly ''what'' The the Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had [[TheCallistaTrilogy Bevel Lemelisk]], one of the original designers of the Death Star, killed horribly, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times. Horribly as in:



* Beautifully subverted in the third StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel, ''[[TheThrawnTrilogy TheLastCommand]]''. Grand Admiral Thrawn confronts the officer who failed to stop Luke Skywalker from escaping, and the poor sap expects a Vader-style execution like the ones quoted above. Indeed, an officer who'd failed in the same thing and then tried to pass the blame had been killed, so everyone believes this one is out of luck. Instead, Thrawn ''promotes'' him, praising his creative attempt even though it failed.

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* Beautifully subverted in the third StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel, ''[[TheThrawnTrilogy TheLastCommand]]''.The Last Command]]''. Grand Admiral Thrawn confronts the officer who failed to stop Luke Skywalker from escaping, and the poor sap expects a Vader-style execution like the ones quoted above. Indeed, an officer who'd failed in the same thing and then tried to pass the blame had been killed, so everyone believes this one is out of luck. Instead, Thrawn ''promotes'' him, praising his creative attempt even though it failed.



** You seem to be imagining things. Disappear? They never existed? Can you prove they existed? No? I think you need a trip to Room101

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** You seem to be imagining things. Disappear? They never existed? Can you prove they existed? No? I think you need a trip to Room101
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** What geets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she LIKES.

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** What geets gets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she LIKES.



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* Late in ''{{Iji}}'', high ranking aliens are threatening their men into killing (or better, capturing) the titular "[[OneManArmy human anomaly]]", with lines such as:

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* Late in ''{{Iji}}'', [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking high ranking aliens aliens]] are threatening their men into killing (or better, capturing) the titular "[[OneManArmy human anomaly]]", with lines such as:
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* In ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her. Of course, at this point Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula [[strike: threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment]] winding up to put a bolt of lightening into Mai for it. Is it any surprise Azula eventually [[spoiler: has a VillainousBreakdown?]]

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* In ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her. Of course, at this point Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula [[strike: threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment]] winding up to put a bolt of lightening lightning into Mai for it. Is it any surprise Azula eventually [[spoiler: has a VillainousBreakdown?]]
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* [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Comsissars]] have a very Voltairian way of motivating their men. But surprisingly, in gameplay terms it tends to work. And there's never any shortage of troops, since one thing the Imperium has in abundance is manpower.

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* [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Comsissars]] Commissars]] have a very Voltairian way of motivating their men. But surprisingly, in gameplay terms it tends to work. And there's never any shortage of troops, since one thing the Imperium has in abundance is manpower.
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May come back to haunt him as an explanation why a minion won't GiveMeASword.

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May come back to haunt him as an explanation why a minion won't GiveMeASword.
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** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the original designer of the Death Star killed horribly, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times. Horribly as in:

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** In the Expanded Universe, ExpandedUniverse, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had [[TheCallistaTrilogy Bevel Lemelisk, Lemelisk]], one of the original designer designers of the Death Star Star, killed horribly, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times. Horribly as in:



* Beautifully subverted in the first ''StarWars'' ExtendedUniverse novel, ''Heir to the Empire''. Grand Admiral Thrawn confronts the officer who failed to stop a freighter from escaping, and the poor sap expects a Vader-style execution like the ones quoted above. Instead, Thrawn ''promotes'' him, praising his creative attempt even though it failed.

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* Beautifully subverted in the first ''StarWars'' ExtendedUniverse third StarWarsExpandedUniverse novel, ''Heir to the Empire''. ''[[TheThrawnTrilogy TheLastCommand]]''. Grand Admiral Thrawn confronts the officer who failed to stop a freighter Luke Skywalker from escaping, and the poor sap expects a Vader-style execution like the ones quoted above. Indeed, an officer who'd failed in the same thing and then tried to pass the blame had been killed, so everyone believes this one is out of luck. Instead, Thrawn ''promotes'' him, praising his creative attempt even though it failed.


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** Darth Vader shows up several times in the novel ''DeathStar''; partly for this trope, partly to help ferret out actual saboteurs and discourage potential ones.
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* Pretty much every single officer in the mirror universe of StarTrek.

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* Pretty much every single officer in the mirror universe MirrorUniverse of StarTrek.
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*** Lowered inch by inch into a vat of molten copper ("It was what the smelter was making that day")

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*** Lowered inch by inch into a vat of molten copper ("It was what the smelter was making used that day")
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** I would yell at Adiane too. They have giant robots, but they don't have radios in order for her to inquire as to exactly what the f*** the princess is doing with a boatload of rebels? She really had to come all the way back to the Imperial City to find this out? Here's a thought: Kidnap the princess and THEN obliterate the rebel forces. It's not as if Lordgenome is on their side, or they wouldn't be rebels in the first place. And if the princess is supposed to be dead, that can be easily rectified later.
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* In ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Azula has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her. Of course, at this point Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula [[strike: threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment]] winding up to put a bolt of lightening into Mai for it. Is it any surprise Azula eventually [[spoiler: has a VillainousBreakdown?]]

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* In ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Azula [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her. Of course, at this point Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula [[strike: threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment]] winding up to put a bolt of lightening into Mai for it. Is it any surprise Azula eventually [[spoiler: has a VillainousBreakdown?]]

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* In ''TheSimpsons'', Burns puts a ''literal'' VillainousDemotivator ("Don't Forget, You're Here Forever") in front of Homer's workstation. Turns into a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Homer selectively covers it with pictures of Maggie until what's left is "Do_i_t For___ Her".
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*** Among others

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*** Among othersothers. When the New Republic finally got a hold of him and sentenced him to death his request to the firing squad was that they "do it right this time."
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** You seem to be imagining things. Disappear? They never existed? Can you prove they existed? No? I think you need a trip to Room101
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* The company in ''{{Dilbert}}''. The strip has gone so far as to at times portray Catbert actually trying to lower morale on purpose, apparently just ForTheEvulz.
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-->'''Darth Vader:'''[[ILied I have altered the terms of the deal.]] Pray I do not alter them further.

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-->'''Darth Vader:'''[[ILied I have altered the terms of am altering the deal.]] Pray I do not don't alter them it any further.

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-->'''Darth Vader:''' "I hope so Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am."
** Remember: we're talking about someone who has been known to crush windpipes for minor irritation.
*** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the original designer of the Death Star killed, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times.

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-->'''Darth Vader:''' "I hope so Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am."
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In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the original designer of the Death Star killed, killed horribly, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times. Horribly as in:
***Eaten by piranha beetles, and then the clone was shown the remains
***Blown out an airlock
***Lowered inch by inch into a vat of molten copper ("It was what the smelter was making that day")
***Chained in a drive tube while the engine was slowly powered up
***Among others
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*** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the designer of the Death Star (before the convoluted retcons involving the Death Star's creation, mind you) killed, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times.

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*** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the original designer of the Death Star (before the convoluted retcons involving the Death Star's creation, mind you) killed, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times.
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* In [[1984]], anyone who spoke out against or betrayed The Party and Big Brother had a tendency to disappear without a trace, with all records that they ever existed erased.

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* In [[1984]], [[NineteenEightyFour 1984]], anyone who spoke out against or betrayed The Party and Big Brother had a tendency to disappear without a trace, with all records that they ever existed erased.
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* In [[1984]], anyone who spoke out against or betrayed The Party and Big Brother had a tendency to disappear without a trace, with all records that they ever existed erased.
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*** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no ideal threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the designer of the Death Star (before the convoluted retcons involving the Death Star's creation, mind you) killed, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times.

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*** In the Expanded Universe, we find out exactly ''what'' The Emperor does to people who displease him, and it's no ideal idle threat. He had Bevel Lemelisk, the designer of the Death Star (before the convoluted retcons involving the Death Star's creation, mind you) killed, resurrected in a clone body, and killed 6 more times.
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** CiaphasCain refrains from this manner of motivation, citing a number of suspicious Commisarial demises. He prefers to lead his men by making them think he leads by example, and let the old human instinct for showing off take over. It has proven very effective.
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The Villainous Demotivator can be any threat that a BigBad or TheDragon makes towards a lower ranking minion that they will be hurt or killed if they fail to perform their job. Assuming their skills will always be needed in his plots (and thus he would need to take the trouble of finding a replacement if he kills the [[EvilMinions Evil Minion]]), this makes sense as a negative motivational tool, and a nice little KickTheDog that can fuel a HelpFaceTurn or MookFaceTurn. Other instances of this trope can happen without the villain ever meaning to demotivate their minions. He might [[EvenEvilHasStandards do something so vile it reminds them of their ethics]], or [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes admit his plan will kill one of their loved ones.]]

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The Villainous Demotivator can be any threat that a BigBad or TheDragon makes towards a lower ranking minion that they will be hurt or killed if they fail to perform their job. Assuming their skills will always be needed in his plots (and thus he would need to take the trouble of finding a replacement if he kills the [[EvilMinions Evil Minion]]), this [[IControlMyMinionsThrough makes sense as a negative motivational tool, tool]], and a nice little KickTheDog that can fuel a HelpFaceTurn or MookFaceTurn. Other instances of this trope can happen without the villain ever meaning to demotivate their minions. He might [[EvenEvilHasStandards do something so vile it reminds them of their ethics]], or [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes admit his plan will kill one of their loved ones.]]

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* Beautifully subverted in the first ''StarWars'' ExtendedUniverse novel, ''Heir to the Empire''. Grand Admiral Thrawn confronts the officer who failed to stop a freighter from escaping, and the poor sap expects a Vader-style execution like the ones quoted above. Instead, Thrawn ''promotes'' him, praising his creative attempt even though it failed.
-->''[Pellaeon] stood there beside the newly minted lieutenant, feeling the stunned awe pervading the bridge as he watched Thrawn leave. Yesterday, the ''Chimaera'''s crew had trusted and respected the Grand Admiral. After today, they would be ready to die for him.''
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* Mr. Teatime in the TerryPratchett novel ''{{Hogfather}}''. Even the hardened criminals are afraid of him and think he's gone too far.

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* Mr. Teatime in the TerryPratchett novel ''{{Hogfather}}''.''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}''. Even the hardened criminals are afraid of him and think he's gone too far.

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