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15th Sep '17 9:15:25 PM Narutaki2012
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* Literature/MartinFierro: When the conscripted soldiers arrived at the Frontier, an official told them that anyone who tries to desert will get five hundred strokes, and so he could count himself as dead.

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* Literature/MartinFierro: When the conscripted soldiers arrived at the Frontier, none of the old recruits are relieved. One of them complains, [[MakeAnExampleOfThem and he is promptly tortured]]. Then an official told them the new recruits that anyone who tries to desert will get five hundred strokes, and so he could count himself as dead.dead. And from then on, things will only get worse.
10th Sep '17 6:56:42 PM Narutaki2012
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* Literature/MartinFierro: When the conscripted soldiers arrived at the Frontier, an official told them that anyone who tries to desert will get five hundred strokes, and so he could count himself as dead.
9th Sep '17 3:39:23 AM lillolillo
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* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', Lordgenome treats his QuirkyMinibossSquad in this manner. Most blatantly, when Adiane withdraws from a battle with the heroes to avoid harming Lordgenome's [[RebelliousPrincess own daughter]], he scolds her because said daughter had been abandoned - and when Adiane remarks that she was never TOLD that, he responds with even more threats. In fact, the only one of the Miniboss Squad who doesn't seem to be effected by this is Guame, who is assumed to be Lordgenome's NonhumanSidekick from [[spoiler:his time as a Spiral Warrior. Guame was Lordgenome's Boota!]]

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* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', Lordgenome treats his QuirkyMinibossSquad in this manner. Most blatantly, when Adiane withdraws from a battle with the heroes to avoid harming Lordgenome's [[RebelliousPrincess own daughter]], he scolds her because said daughter had been abandoned - and when Adiane remarks that she was never TOLD that, he responds with even more threats. In fact, the only one of the Miniboss Squad who doesn't seem to be effected affected by this is Guame, who is assumed to be Lordgenome's NonhumanSidekick from [[spoiler:his time as a Spiral Warrior. Guame was Lordgenome's Boota!]]



* In ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' story ''Adventure Comics'' issue #423, alien conqueror Gur executes his Communications Officer for one small error and tells his crewmen to "take heed".
-->'''Gur:''' A task I shall never hesitate to perform upon a crewman... who is negligent in his duties! So take heed, all of you witless, blundering fools...



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6th Sep '17 10:09:18 AM Byzantine
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* Despite his pop-cultural portrayal, Creator/NiccoloMachiavelli was aware of this trope. In his ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' he cites exapmles of rulers who punished their military leaders for failures with death or exile. He concludes that such measures drastically decreased the army's ethusiasm and willingness to risk, so he severely discouraged use of YouHaveFailedMe tactic.

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* Despite his pop-cultural portrayal, Creator/NiccoloMachiavelli was aware of this trope. In his ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' he cites exapmles examples of rulers who punished their military leaders for failures with death or exile. He concludes that such measures drastically decreased the army's ethusiasm and willingness to risk, so he severely discouraged use of YouHaveFailedMe tactic.
14th Aug '17 5:38:34 AM IHateAlmostEverything
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* Despite his pop-cultural portrayal, Creator/NiccoloMachiavelli was aware of this trope. In his ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' he cites exapmles of rulers who punished their military leaders for failures with death or exile. He concludes that such measures drastically decreased the army's ethusiasm and willingness to risk, so he severely discouraged use of YouHaveFailedMe tactic.
* Even though [[Literature/TheBookOfLordShang Shang Yang]] was cynical and ruthless enogh to make Machiavelli look like a hippie, he understood in [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] this problem. Shang explained that unreasonably cruel and chaotic use of punishments and executions by a ruler can ruin a kingdom just as easily as him being excessively merciful, so he describes in great details how and when you must punish your minions. Yang also [[InvertedTrope inverted]] this trope, stressing the importance of reward and promotion for efficient and loyal subordinates.
21st Jul '17 2:20:32 PM nighttrainfm
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* [[BadBoss Visser Three]] of ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' has this as his predominant character trait - his reputation for cruelty, megalomania, and ambition are dwarfed among his own kind by his reputation for being [[BadBoss absolutely ruthless to his subordinates.]] The penalty for failure, incompetence, or low morale is instant [[OffWithHisHead decapitation.]]

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[[BadBoss Visser Three]] of ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' has this as his predominant character trait - his reputation for cruelty, megalomania, and ambition are dwarfed among his own kind by his reputation for being [[BadBoss absolutely ruthless to his subordinates.]] The penalty for failure, incompetence, or low morale is instant [[OffWithHisHead decapitation.]]
8th Jul '17 11:39:04 AM Someoneman
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* in ''Anime/Gate'', when [[spoiler: the Yellow Rose Knightly order, have to fight their comrades]], the Imperial soldiers rightly question why they are fighting loyal knights, obeying the last few orders of the Emperor. They only go through because they fear their families would be killed if they didn't fight them. Because of this, the Knights of around 300 fend off over a thousand soldiers for presumably days. In the end, [[WhatMeasureIsAMook you feel particularly sad for the Imperial Soldiers who got caught up in it all.]]

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* in ''Anime/Gate'', ''Anime/{{Gate}}'', when [[spoiler: the Yellow Rose Knightly order, have to fight their comrades]], the Imperial soldiers rightly question why they are fighting loyal knights, obeying the last few orders of the Emperor. They only go through because they fear their families would be killed if they didn't fight them. Because of this, the Knights of around 300 fend off over a thousand soldiers for presumably days. In the end, [[WhatMeasureIsAMook you feel particularly sad for the Imperial Soldiers who got caught up in it all.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Burns puts a ''literal'' VillainousDemotivator ("Don't Forget, You're Here Forever") in front of Homer's workstation. Turns into a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Homer selectively covers it with pictures of Maggie until what's left is "Do_i_t For___ Her".

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Burns puts a ''literal'' VillainousDemotivator ("Don't Forget, You're Here Forever") in front of Homer's workstation. Turns into a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Homer selectively covers it with pictures of Maggie until what's left is "Do_i_t For___ Her".
7th May '17 12:44:28 AM Zeiram1990
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because [[spoiler:Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her.]] Of course, at this point [[spoiler: Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment, winding up to put a bolt of lightning into Mai for it. What gets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she ''likes''.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] Azula has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because [[spoiler:Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her.]] Of course, at this point [[spoiler: Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment, winding up to put a bolt of lightning into Mai for it. What gets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she ''likes''.]]
3rd Mar '17 12:32:14 PM CountDorku
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* "You mean nothing to us" is a pretty standard message in the CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker played on Hyperion bases in ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}''. They'll even play such messages directed to [[MechaMooks Loaders]], which are explicitly prohibited from developing self-awareness. Of course, the head of Hyperion is the BigBad, and upper corporate culture has come to idolise his, sometimes literally, cut-throat approach to business.
-->''Be careful when unloading slag barrels. The life you save may be more monetarily valuable than your own.''
12th Jan '17 2:02:07 PM Moonstreak
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Bad guys have a lot of problems keeping a NebulousEvilOrganisation running. There's [[{{Mooks}} High turnover]] due to heroic raids, [[SurroundedByIdiots lack of professionalism]] in the EvilMinions, and motivating the surviving personnel. This last one is especially difficult because just as EvilCannotComprehendGood, it also can't understand positive reinforcement.

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Bad guys have a lot of problems keeping a NebulousEvilOrganisation running. There's [[{{Mooks}} High high turnover]] due to heroic raids, [[SurroundedByIdiots lack of professionalism]] in the EvilMinions, and motivating the surviving personnel. This last one is especially difficult because just as EvilCannotComprehendGood, it also can't understand positive reinforcement.
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