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8th Jul '17 11:39:04 AM Someoneman
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* in ''Anime/Gate'', when [[spoiler: the Yellow Rose Knightly order, have to fight their comrades]], the Imperial soldiers rightly question why they are fighting loyal knights, obeying the last few orders of the Emperor. They only go through because they fear their families would be killed if they didn't fight them. Because of this, the Knights of around 300 fend off over a thousand soldiers for presumably days. In the end, [[WhatMeasureIsAMook you feel particularly sad for the Imperial Soldiers who got caught up in it all.]]

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* in ''Anime/Gate'', ''Anime/{{Gate}}'', when [[spoiler: the Yellow Rose Knightly order, have to fight their comrades]], the Imperial soldiers rightly question why they are fighting loyal knights, obeying the last few orders of the Emperor. They only go through because they fear their families would be killed if they didn't fight them. Because of this, the Knights of around 300 fend off over a thousand soldiers for presumably days. In the end, [[WhatMeasureIsAMook you feel particularly sad for the Imperial Soldiers who got caught up in it all.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Burns puts a ''literal'' VillainousDemotivator ("Don't Forget, You're Here Forever") in front of Homer's workstation. Turns into a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Homer selectively covers it with pictures of Maggie until what's left is "Do_i_t For___ Her".

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Burns puts a ''literal'' VillainousDemotivator ("Don't Forget, You're Here Forever") in front of Homer's workstation. Turns into a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Homer selectively covers it with pictures of Maggie until what's left is "Do_i_t For___ Her".
7th May '17 12:44:28 AM Zeiram1990
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because [[spoiler:Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her.]] Of course, at this point [[spoiler: Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment, winding up to put a bolt of lightning into Mai for it. What gets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she ''likes''.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[MagnificentBastard Azula]] Azula has this problem with keeping Ty Lee and Mai loyal. She initially pressures Ty Lee into leaving the circus by setting loose all the animals and ''setting her trapeze net on fire!'' Later on, when Mai betrays her out of love for Zuko, it's explicitly because [[spoiler:Mai loves Zuko more than she fears her.]] Of course, at this point [[spoiler: Ty Lee ''also'' betrays her upon seeing Azula threaten Mai with lifelong imprisonment, winding up to put a bolt of lightning into Mai for it. What gets worse is that this is how Azula treats people she ''likes''.]]
3rd Mar '17 12:32:14 PM CountDorku
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* "You mean nothing to us" is a pretty standard message in the CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker played on Hyperion bases in ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}''. They'll even play such messages directed to [[MechaMooks Loaders]], which are explicitly prohibited from developing self-awareness. Of course, the head of Hyperion is the BigBad, and upper corporate culture has come to idolise his, sometimes literally, cut-throat approach to business.
-->''Be careful when unloading slag barrels. The life you save may be more monetarily valuable than your own.''
12th Jan '17 2:02:07 PM Moonstreak
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Bad guys have a lot of problems keeping a NebulousEvilOrganisation running. There's [[{{Mooks}} High turnover]] due to heroic raids, [[SurroundedByIdiots lack of professionalism]] in the EvilMinions, and motivating the surviving personnel. This last one is especially difficult because just as EvilCannotComprehendGood, it also can't understand positive reinforcement.

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Bad guys have a lot of problems keeping a NebulousEvilOrganisation running. There's [[{{Mooks}} High high turnover]] due to heroic raids, [[SurroundedByIdiots lack of professionalism]] in the EvilMinions, and motivating the surviving personnel. This last one is especially difficult because just as EvilCannotComprehendGood, it also can't understand positive reinforcement.
16th Sep '16 7:20:55 AM Morgenthaler
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'''Garak''': [[ServileSnarker I bow to your brilliance. Though I do hope your mood improves before we run out of workers.]]

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'''Garak''': [[ServileSnarker I bow to your brilliance. Though I do hope your mood improves before we run out of workers.]]
12th Aug '16 9:54:25 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheDarkEye'', Borbarad told the inmates of a prison "All of you will follow me. [[BadassBoast I merely asked, who wants to do so alive.]]"

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* In ''TheDarkEye'', ''TabletopGame/TheDarkEye'', Borbarad told the inmates of a prison "All of you will follow me. [[BadassBoast I merely asked, who wants to do so alive.]]"
4th Aug '16 6:32:20 PM ANTMuddle
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The Villainous Demotivator can be any threat that a BigBad or TheDragon makes towards a lower ranking minion that they will be hurt or killed if they fail to perform their job. Assuming their skills will always be needed in his plots (and thus he would need to take the trouble of finding a replacement if he kills the [[EvilMinions Evil Minion]]), this [[IControlMyMinionsThrough makes sense as a negative motivational tool]], and a nice little KickTheDog that can fuel a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal or a MookFaceTurn. Other instances of this trope can happen without the villain ever meaning to demotivate their minions. He might [[EvenEvilHasStandards do something so vile it reminds them of their ethics]], or [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes admit his plan will kill one of their loved ones]].

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The Villainous Demotivator can be any threat that a BigBad or TheDragon makes towards a lower ranking minion that they will be hurt or killed if they fail to perform their job. Assuming their skills will always be needed in his plots (and thus he would need to take the trouble of finding a replacement if he kills the [[EvilMinions Evil Minion]]), this [[IControlMyMinionsThrough makes sense as a negative motivational tool]], and a nice little KickTheDog that can fuel a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal MistreatmentInducedBetrayal, a MookFaceTurn, or (horrors!) a MookFaceTurn.HighHeelFaceTurn. Other instances of this trope can happen without the villain ever meaning to demotivate their minions. He might [[EvenEvilHasStandards do something so vile it reminds them of their ethics]], or [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes admit his plan will kill one of their loved ones]].
20th Jul '16 11:11:56 PM Shishkahuben
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* [[BadBoss Visser Three]] of ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' has this as his predominant character trait - his reputation for cruelty, megalomania, and ambition are dwarfed among his own kind by his reputation for being [[BadBoss absolutely ruthless to his subordinates.]] The penalty for failure, incompetence, or low morale is instant [[OffWithHisHead decapitation.]]
** During one operation, [[GuileHero Marco]] is interrogated undercover by a patrol squad, asking where a set of dispatched Controllers have gone. Marco stumbles through a lie, saying the Visser had executed them on the spot for incompetence. As he's mentally kicking himself for telling such a bad lie, the Yeerks accept this as not only completely plausible but a more likely explanation than anything else.
21st May '16 11:53:44 PM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide'': [[SmugSnake Kluge]] mistreats, threatens, blackmails and manipulates his henchmen, subordinates and pawns the whole time. Ergo, they’re not loyal at all and several of them turn against him.
8th May '16 7:28:36 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', Lordgenome treats his QuirkyMinibossSquad in this manner. Most blatantly, when Adiane withdraws from a battle with the heroes to avoid harming Lordgenome's [[RebelliousPrincess own daughter]], he scolds her because said daughter had been abandoned - and when Adiane remarks that she was never TOLD that, he responds with even more threats. In fact, the only one of the Miniboss Squad who doesn't seem to be effected by this is Guame, who is assumed to be Lordgenome's NonhumanSidekick from [[spoiler:his time as a Spiral Warrior. Guame was Lordgenome's Boota!]]

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* In ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', Lordgenome treats his QuirkyMinibossSquad in this manner. Most blatantly, when Adiane withdraws from a battle with the heroes to avoid harming Lordgenome's [[RebelliousPrincess own daughter]], he scolds her because said daughter had been abandoned - and when Adiane remarks that she was never TOLD that, he responds with even more threats. In fact, the only one of the Miniboss Squad who doesn't seem to be effected by this is Guame, who is assumed to be Lordgenome's NonhumanSidekick from [[spoiler:his time as a Spiral Warrior. Guame was Lordgenome's Boota!]]
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