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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The work is intentionally being problematic for the sake of historical accuracy.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The work is intentionally being A story set in the past features an unsanitized depiction of all the problematic cultural differences in its setting, for the sake of historical accuracy.accuracy and raising awareness about it.



** PoliticallyCorrectHistory: An inversion of the above; when a story set in the past deliberately whitewashes or glosses over more controversial aspects of history, in order to avoid offending modern audiences.



* PoliticallyCorrectHistory: A work taking place in the past deliberately whitewashes or glosses over aspects of history that might offend modern audiences.
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** NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].

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** NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].time.
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** NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way [[DeliberateValuesDissonance how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].

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** NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way [[DeliberateValuesDissonance how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].



* ValuesResonance: Though sometimes, an older work of fiction may have messages or themes that are still quite relevant to the issues of the present day.

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* ValuesResonance: Though sometimes, an older work of fiction may have messages or themes that which are still quite very relevant and applicable to the issues of the present day.present-day issues.

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** NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way [[DeliberateValuesDissonance how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].



* NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way [[DeliberateValuesDissonance how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].



* ValuesResonance: (Actually an inversion)

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* ValuesResonance: (Actually Though sometimes, an inversion)older work of fiction may have messages or themes that are still quite relevant to the issues of the present day.
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* {{ValuesDissonance/Other}}

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* {{ValuesDissonance/Other}}ValuesDissonance/OtherMedia
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** TakeTheeToANunnery: Something that was once raunchy is now innocent-sounding.

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** TakeTheeToANunnery: GetTheeToANunnery: Something that was once raunchy is now innocent-sounding.
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** NonNaziSwastika: A swastika is used outside of a Nazi or white supremacist context. This was fairly common in the West prior to the 1930s.
** TakeTheeToANunnery: Something that was once raunchy is now innocent-sounding.
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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes depending on where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.

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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes depending on where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while whereas they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.
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* OnceAcceptableTargets: In the past, it was okay to make fun of these kinds of people, but nowadays any attempt at mocking them will only get you in deep trouble.

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* OnceAcceptableTargets: In the past, it was okay to make fun of these kinds of people, but nowadays any attempt at mocking them will only get land you in deep trouble.
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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.

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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to depending on where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.
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** ValuesDissonance/AndThenThereWereNone

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** ValuesDissonance/AndThenThereWereNone''ValuesDissonance/AndThenThereWereNone''



** ValuesDissonance/Persona5

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** ValuesDissonance/Persona5''ValuesDissonance/Persona5''



** ValuesDissonance/TheSimpsons

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** ValuesDissonance/TheSimpsons''ValuesDissonance/TheSimpsons''



** ValuesDissonance/CalvinAndHobbes

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** ValuesDissonance/CalvinAndHobbes''ValuesDissonance/CalvinAndHobbes''
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* NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel: A {{time travel}}er from the future, often a member of some historically oppressed group, visits the past and learns the hard way [[DeliberateValuesDissonance how much life would've sucked had they lived in that time]].
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* SocietyMarchesOn: A story depicts a then-future world which is shown to have similar social values to the then-present, making it seem dated as time passes.
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* ValuesResonance (actually an inversion)

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* ValuesResonance (actually ValuesResonance: (Actually an inversion)
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* {{Bowdlerize}}: A work is clumsily altered in a way to remove material considered offensive somewhere else.
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* EthnicScrappy: A character is disliked for basically being a racial stereotype.

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* EthnicScrappy: A character is disliked for basically being a an offensive racial stereotype.
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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore

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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcoreAmericanKirbyIsHardcore: Outside the country of origin, media is promoted to seem more exciting, subversive, or badass, without changing the actual media.



* BadFuture
* BadPresent

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* BadFuture
BadFuture: A time-traveler finds the future is a dystopia.
* BadPresentBadPresent: A time-traveler from the past thinks ''our'' present is a dystopia.



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: A being follows morality that cannot be accurately measured by our understanding of what's right and what's wrong.

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: A being follows morality that cannot be accurately measured by our understanding of what's right and what's wrong. (Compared to BlackAndWhiteMorality.)



* CrossCulturalKerfluffle

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* CrossCulturalKerfluffleCrossCulturalKerfluffle: A concept that is benign in one culture is highly offensive in others, leading to friction.



* CultureClash
* DeaderThanDisco

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* CultureClash
CultureClash: Cultural differences lead to conflict.
* DeaderThanDiscoDeaderThanDisco: A once-popular thing is obliterated by negative backlash to the extent that even those who enjoyed it at the time have since changed their opinion.



* DubPersonalityChange

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* DubPersonalityChangeDubPersonalityChange: A dub between languages significantly alters a character's personality.



* GetTheeToANunnery

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* GetTheeToANunneryGetTheeToANunnery: Something that once held raunchy innuendo is rendered meaningless or even innocent by the passage of time.



* HaveAGayOldTime

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* HaveAGayOldTimeHaveAGayOldTime: Something that was once innocent is given raunchy innuendo by the passage of time.



* MoralMyopia

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* MoralMyopiaMoralMyopia: Something that is acceptable when done by one group is seen as unacceptable when another group does the exact same thing.



* SameContentDifferentRating

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* SameContentDifferentRatingSameContentDifferentRating: As times change, content that was originally seen as harmless is now viewed as less so (or vice versa).



* WrittenByTheWinners

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* WrittenByTheWinnersWrittenByTheWinners: A narrative is skewed to make the dominant power structure look like the heroes even when their actions are/were questionable.
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An example of Values Dissonance between the United Kingdom and the US would be the use of blackface imagery, which formed the centrepiece of Creator/TheBBC's ''Black and White Minstrel Show'' until the 1970's. Blackface was/is also used in other countries, such as Japan, The BENELUX, and Australia, where it does not have the same cultural stigma or even origin.

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An example of Values Dissonance between the United Kingdom and the US would be the use of blackface imagery, which formed the centrepiece of Creator/TheBBC's ''Black and White Minstrel Show'' until the 1970's.1970s. Blackface was/is also used in other countries, such as Japan, The BENELUX, and Australia, where it does not have the same cultural stigma or even origin.

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Very often, the trope in question is AnAesop, and exporting it, or viewing it twenty years later than the time it was created, results in a transformation into a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop.

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Very often, the trope in question is AnAesop, and exporting it, or viewing it twenty years later than the time it was created, results in a transformation into a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop.
gives unfavorable results.
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* CulturalCringe: A character acts embarrassed by their native culture.

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* CulturalCringe: A character acts is embarrassed by or mocks their native culture.culture, especially in comparison to others.
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* CulturalCringe

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* CulturalCringeCulturalCringe: A character acts embarrassed by their native culture.
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* VindicatedByHistory: A work that wasn't successful when originally released recieves better reception over time.
* WeAllLiveInAmerica

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* VindicatedByHistory: A work that wasn't successful when originally released recieves receives better reception over time.
* WeAllLiveInAmericaWeAllLiveInAmerica: A work taking place in one country makes it painfully clear that the creator is from another.
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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK (except for Northern Ireland). The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.

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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK (except for Northern Ireland).UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.
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* AmericansHateTingle

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* AmericansHateTingleAmericansHateTingle: Difference of cultural norms ensures that a work or character is despised outside of their country of origin.



* BannedInChina
* BlueAndOrangeMorality
* BrokenBase

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* BannedInChina
BannedInChina: A work is banned in another country, often because of featuring content that the country finds offensive or morally objectionable.
* BlueAndOrangeMorality
BlueAndOrangeMorality: A being follows morality that cannot be accurately measured by our understanding of what's right and what's wrong.
* BrokenBaseBrokenBase: Disagreement on whether an aspect of a work was good or bad can be a result of values dissonance.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance
* DiscreditedTrope

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance
DeliberateValuesDissonance: The work is intentionally being problematic for the sake of historical accuracy.
* DiscreditedTropeDiscreditedTrope: A trope is no longer used (or at least no longer used often or as seriously) because of how society has progressed.



* DudeNotFunny
* EthnicScrappy
* FairForItsDay
* FishOutOfWater
** FishOutOfTemporalWater
* FunnyAneurysmMoment
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff

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* DudeNotFunny
DudeNotFunny: Other characters chew out someone for making a tasteless joke.
* EthnicScrappy
EthnicScrappy: A character is disliked for basically being a racial stereotype.
* FairForItsDay
FairForItsDay: The work's moral might not seem very open-minded today, but it was seen as pretty progressive back in the day.
* FishOutOfWater
FishOutOfWater: An individual is forced to live outside of their natural environment.
** FishOutOfTemporalWater
FishOutOfTemporalWater: A person has to adjust to living outside of their original time period after ending up stuck in the past or future.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment
FunnyAneurysmMoment: A joke becomes less funny because of current events.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoffGermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: A work is more popular outside of its country of origin.



* HarsherInHindsight

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* HarsherInHindsightHarsherInHindsight: A scene that was already sad or unsettling becomes even worse because of current events.



* HilariousInHindsight

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* HilariousInHindsightHilariousInHindsight: Something about a work becomes funnier or more relevant because of current events.



* OnceAcceptableTargets
* PoliticallyCorrectHistory

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* OnceAcceptableTargets
OnceAcceptableTargets: In the past, it was okay to make fun of these kinds of people, but nowadays any attempt at mocking them will only get you in deep trouble.
* PoliticallyCorrectHistoryPoliticallyCorrectHistory: A work taking place in the past deliberately whitewashes or glosses over aspects of history that might offend modern audiences.



* UnacceptableTargets
* UnintentionallySympathetic
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic

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* UnacceptableTargets
UnacceptableTargets: Targets that should never, ''ever'' be made fun of.
* UnintentionallySympathetic
UnintentionallySympathetic: We're supposed to despise this character, but we sympathize with the misfortunes they are clearly suffering from.
* UnintentionallyUnsympatheticUnintentionallyUnsympathetic: We're supposed to feel sorry for this character, but the way they're acting makes them come off as a spiteful and unpleasant jackass.



* VindicatedByHistory

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* VindicatedByHistoryVindicatedByHistory: A work that wasn't successful when originally released recieves better reception over time.



* YourNormalIsOurTaboo

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* YourNormalIsOurTabooYourNormalIsOurTaboo: What's normal in one culture is forbidden in another, or vice versa.
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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are banned in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.

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Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are mostly banned for civilians in the UK.UK (except for Northern Ireland). The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.
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* [[{{ValuesDissonance/Film}} Film — Live-Action]]

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* [[{{ValuesDissonance/Film}} [[ValuesDissonance/LiveActionFilms Film — Live-Action]]
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* [[ValuesDissonance/AnimatedFilm Film — Animation]]

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* [[ValuesDissonance/AnimatedFilm [[ValuesDissonance/AnimatedFilms Film — Animation]]
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Unfortunately, some tropes just don't travel--or age--very well. They're fine on their home turf, where everyone understands them and knows what value system they're based on. When that trope makes the trip to another country however, it gets seasick on the way over, arriving at port looking distinctly disheveled and finding itself among strangers who have no idea what it's talking about.

Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life--what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are banned in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.

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Unfortunately, some tropes just don't travel--or age--very travel — or age — very well. They're fine on their home turf, where everyone understands them and knows what value system they're based on. When that trope makes the trip to another country however, it gets seasick on the way over, arriving at port looking distinctly disheveled and finding itself among strangers who have no idea what it's talking about.

Since there are so many countries (195 to be exact, and that's just counting those that have international recognition) and cultures in the world, it's not surprising that there are so many different outlooks on life--what's life — what's important, ''who's'' important, what constitutes justice and what qualifies as cruelty changes according to where you are. Even in countries that speak the same language, values can be different. The UK and the USA, for example, share a language and are regarded as culturally similar to one another... but handguns are legal in the USA, while they are banned in the UK. The UK also has no death penalty, while the US does for federal offenses and offenses against about half the states. This leads to some fundamental differences in the way the legal system is perceived, even between two countries that are alike in many other ways.



* [[ValuesDissonance/AnimatedFilm Films — Animation]]
* [[{{ValuesDissonance/Film}} Films — Live-Action]]

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* {{ValuesDissonance/Theater}}

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