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* Of course, one probably thinks about armed thugs when this is brought up. It does not take much skill at all to do serious harm with a knife or big stick, whereas trying to successfully fight an armed opponent - never mind multiple - while barefisted calls for some serious skill.
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* This is one of the arguments the anti-gun control lobby uses to defend the right of citizens to own guns: Using a gun does not demand the months of intense training nor physical strength martial arts require, but can still ruin a thug's day. A brute with years of experience on the street will still feel a frail-seeming BadassGrandpa emptying a piece into him.
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* Gao of {{Eyeshield 21}} only started playing football that season, yet he's already one of the best linemen in Japan. Why? Because he can bench press 440+ pounds and flings opponents away like nothing. People even nickname him things like "caveman", "dinosaur", "monster", and "muscle brains." His lack of technique, however, is a conscious choice since he wants to find someone who equals him in strength. When he finally does meet someone who overpowers him, he quickly starts improving on technique.
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It's not the Gear Second use that renders the fight a case of Unskilled But Strong, but the fact that he needed it to overpower the sisters, who were weaker if not equal to normal Luffy but had higher skill from Haki to compensate. (Deleting line and adding reasoning in here to avoid natter)


** A borderline case, given that Gear 2nd is a special technique that Luffy developed through practice, rather than a power that was handed to him.
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* The villains during the Saiyans and Namek arcs in ''DragonBall''. They were born with huge ammounts of ki, but have no way to control it, and can do little more than fly and shoot strong blasts from their hands ([[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer Which works]]). Meanwhile, our heroes can do far more things with their ki, since they had formal training for it.

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* The villains during the Saiyans Saiyan and Namek arcs in ''DragonBall''. They were born with huge ammounts amounts of ki, but have no way to control it, and can do little more than fly and shoot strong blasts from their hands ([[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer Which works]]). Meanwhile, our heroes can do far more things with their ki, since they had formal training for it.



** As a powerful yet bratty Goddess, Glory probably qualifies, too.

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** As a powerful yet bratty Goddess, goddess, Glory probably qualifies, too.
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* [[XMen The Juggernaut]].
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* [[IkkiTousen Hakufu Sonsaku]] is considered to be the worse fighter of Kanto. Despite that, she's also the strongest of the fighters and has rarely ever been defeated. She's even the leader of Nanyo Academy.
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** Caleb from Season 7, as well as the Turok-Han (prior to the finale induced VillainDecay). Punch-for-Punch, Buffy is noticeably outclassed by both, serving as a potent reminder about the overconfidence the Slayer Strength may bring.
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Compare SkilledButNaive. Contrast WeakButSkilled.

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Compare SkilledButNaive. Contrast WeakButSkilled. Often pursues a BiggerStick.



** Her friend Hayate is this down to the core. Her magical power is by far the highest in the entire TSAB and her attacks are equal to ''nukes''. And yet she's helplessly unskilled and needs support to even aim her attacks properly. As she says ''herself'', this is why she would lose to almost everyone else in the main cast, despite being theoretically the strongest mage alive.

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** Her friend Hayate is this down to the core. Her magical power is by far the highest in the entire TSAB and her attacks are equal to ''nukes''. And yet she's - at least in the main continuity, as opposed to the ''Battle of Aces'' one - helplessly unskilled and needs support to even aim her attacks properly. As she says ''herself'', this is why she would lose to almost everyone else in the main cast, despite being theoretically the strongest mage alive.

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A character who is UnskilledButStrong lacks the refined technique of formal training, but compensates by either being [[TheGift very naturally talented]] or [[MightyGlacier having so much raw power]] they don't ''need'' skill.

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A character who is UnskilledButStrong lacks the refined technique of formal training, but compensates by either being [[TheGift very naturally talented]] or [[MightyGlacier having so much raw power]] they don't ''need'' skill.
skill. They tend to have the attitude that if brute force doesn't work, it's just because they didn't use enough of it.


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** Actually a subversion in Kenpachi's case, as when he uses both hands to hold his sword, he's using traditional kendo techniques as taught to him by [[OldMaster Captain-Commander Yamamoto]], not just increasing the amount of power he puts into his swings. But normally he plays this straight, fighting by wildly swinging his sword around one-handed, because ''he finds it more fun that way''.

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** Her friend Hayate is this down to the core. Her magical power is by far the highest in the entire TSAB and her attacks are equal to ''nukes''. And yet she's helplessly unskilled and needs support to even aim her attacks properly. As she says ''herself'', this is why she would lose to almost everyone else in the main cast, despite being theoretically the strongest mage.

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** Her friend Hayate is this down to the core. Her magical power is by far the highest in the entire TSAB and her attacks are equal to ''nukes''. And yet she's helplessly unskilled and needs support to even aim her attacks properly. As she says ''herself'', this is why she would lose to almost everyone else in the main cast, despite being theoretically the strongest mage.mage alive.



** Vegeta (the BigBad of the Saiyan arc and an EnemyMine ally in the Namek/Freeza arc) starts out this way, but after being defeated by the heroes, he very rapidly learns many of their skills. [[TheWorfEffect Not that it helps much]].



** Additionally, he has the same level of Haki that Hancock does, which is stronger than theirs but can't control it, and can't do anything more than render people without sufficient force of will unconscious.

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** Additionally, he has the same level of Haki that Hancock does, which is stronger than theirs but can't control it, and can't do anything more than render people without sufficient force of will unconscious. Luffy's shown occasional flashes of other types of Haki use (against Mihawk, he avoided losing a hand because he saw a flash of what Mihawk's next attack would be), but they too were uncontrolled and he didn't even seem to realize what had happened.
** A borderline case, given that Gear 2nd is a special technique that Luffy developed through practice, rather than a power that was handed to him.


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** Hulk's skill level fluctuates almost as much as his strength. His strength is dependent on how angry he is, while his skill level is largely dependent on which of his many MultiplePersonalities is active at the moment.
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* The ''Buffy'' villain "The Judge". A Nigh invulnerable demon who OneHitKills from range. So used to curb-stomping entire armies and never having to worry about dodging or actually fighting beyond "point and kill it", when Buffy uses a rocket launcher, he doesn't even know to dodge.

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* The ''Buffy'' ''{{Buffy}}'' villain "The Judge". A Nigh invulnerable demon who OneHitKills {{One Hit Kill}}s from range. So used to curb-stomping entire armies and never having to worry about dodging or actually fighting beyond "point and kill it", when Buffy uses a rocket launcher, he doesn't even know to dodge.
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*[[SamuraiChamploo Jin]] Considers Mugen to be this. But [[{{Samurai}} Jin]] does have [[RedOniBlueOni that kind of relationship]] with Mugen. It does bite him in the ass against [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Hand of God]] [[BigBad Kiriya]] though.
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* Captain Hammer of ''DoctorHorrible'' seems to get everywhere on super strength and damage resistance (which is a lot in a world where the super villains we know of are 1:a MadScientist 2:a guy who can make things moist 3:[[spoiler:a horse]]) and the first time he gets hurt he runs away crying like a little girl and explicitly an anti-intellectual in the ExpandedUniverse.

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* Captain Hammer of ''DoctorHorrible'' seems to get everywhere on his super strength (born with the ability to "bench press 500 pounds") and damage resistance (which is a lot in a world where the super villains we know of are 1:a MadScientist 2:a guy who can make things moist 3:[[spoiler:a horse]]) and his plans are limited to "smash the device". The first time he gets hurt he runs away crying like a little girl and explicitly an anti-intellectual in the ExpandedUniverse.girl.
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* Captain Hammer of ''DoctorHorrible'' seems to get everywhere on super strength and damage resistance (which is a lot in a world where the super villains we know of are 1:a MadScientist 2:a guy who can make things moist 3:[[spoiler:a horse]]) and the first time he gets hurt he runs away crying like a little girl and explicitly an anti-intellectual in the ExpandedUniverse.

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* [[BloodKnight Kenpachi]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' is a borderline example. He lacks the ability to use [[SuperMode Bankai]] and sticks purely to hacking his enemies to little pieces with his sword. He does have some training in kendo, but he [[IAmNotLeftHanded refuses to use it]], as his [[RestrainingBolt battles would end too quickly]]. When he does use it [[spoiler: he can defeat an opponent who's been fighting him to a standstill for several episodes by [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome using both]] of his hands to hold his sword]].
** And even so, that's the only principle of Kendo that he remembers, one that Nnoitra points out is quite obvious.
** Kenpachi is actually even worse than that - he doesn't even know his Zanpakuto's name, never uses Kido, and acquired his leadership position by force rather than being chosen for it. I think he's a pretty good example.
** Don't forget Ichigo himself. Despite having one of the highest spiritual power levels in the series, he is often outclassed in skill by more experienced opponents, such as Ulqiourra and Gin.

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* [[BloodKnight Kenpachi]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' is a borderline example. He lacks the ability to use relies on raw power and bloodlust, and it works out quite well. No [[SuperMode Bankai]] and sticks purely to hacking bankai]], no functional ''shikai'', no kido, no special techniques. He acquired his enemies to little pieces with position simply by killing his sword. He does have some training in kendo, but he [[IAmNotLeftHanded refuses predecessor. His idea of a sword technique is ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome using both hands to use it]], as hold his [[RestrainingBolt battles would end too quickly]]. When sword]]''--and when he does use it [[spoiler: he can defeat does, [[spoiler:he ''easily'' defeats an opponent who's who had been fighting him to a standstill for several episodes by [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome using both]] of his hands to hold his sword]].
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** And even so, that's the only principle of Kendo that he remembers, one that Nnoitra points out is quite obvious.
** Kenpachi is actually even worse than that - he doesn't even know his Zanpakuto's name, never uses Kido, and acquired his leadership position by force rather than being chosen for it. I think he's a pretty good example.
** Don't forget Ichigo himself. Despite having one of the highest
Ichigo, as well. His incredibly high spiritual power levels in is remarked upon from the series, very beginning, yet he is often completely outclassed in skill by more experienced opponents, such as Ulqiourra and Gin.opponents.
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* Bob the Beholder in ''YetAnotherFantasyGamerComic'' isn't terribly bright and lacks finesse. He succeeds at his tasks in spite of this because he's... [[EyeBeams well, a beholder.]]
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* In the City vs Country {{Cricket}} matches of the olden days, the country teams (mainly farmers) had more power but less refined technique than their city opponents. The term ''agricultural shot'', meaning a full-blooded swing that will probably result in the batsman either hitting the ball out of the ground or getting out, is a relic of this.

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* In the City vs Country {{Cricket}} matches of the olden days, the country teams (mainly farmers) had more power but less refined technique than their city opponents. The term ''agricultural shot'' or ''cow shot'', meaning a full-blooded swing that will probably result in the batsman either hitting the ball out of the ground or getting out, is a relic of this.
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* In the City vs Country {{Cricket}} matches of the olden days, the country teams (mainly farmers) had more power but less refined technique than their city opponents. The term ''agricultural shot'', meaning a full-blooded swing that will probably result in the batsman either hitting the ball out of the ground or getting out, is a relic of this.
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* Due to unusual circumstances BeetTheVandelBuster can use five of the powerful magical weapons called Saiga, when most individuals can use only one. However, early parts of the series are spent with Beet learning how to fully utilize his five Saiga and Beet has zero ability in the more basic magical skills which are supposed to be the lead up to obtaining a Saiga in the first place.
* MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha has a lot of raw power, but her technique isn't quite up to the task at the very beginning. Later on though, she trains and refines her technique so immensely that it almost becomes an inversion. She learns ''fast'' and she does it ''good''.

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* Due to unusual circumstances BeetTheVandelBuster ''BeetTheVandelBuster'' can use five of the powerful magical weapons called Saiga, when most individuals can use only one. However, early parts of the series are spent with Beet learning how to fully utilize his five Saiga and Beet has zero ability in the more basic magical skills which are supposed to be the lead up to obtaining a Saiga in the first place.
* MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' has a lot of raw power, but her technique isn't quite up to the task at the very beginning. Later on though, she trains and refines her technique so immensely that it almost becomes an inversion. She learns ''fast'' and she does it ''good''.



* Takashi Kawamura from PrinceofTennis. He considers himself the burden of the Seigaku team, yet can fight GeniusBruiser Kabaji to a standstill.

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* Takashi Kawamura from PrinceofTennis.''PrinceOfTennis''. He considers himself the burden of the Seigaku team, yet can fight GeniusBruiser Kabaji to a standstill.



* Most of the Gauls in ''{{Asterix}}'' have shades of this, but Obelix is the only ''true'' example. Due to being permanently [[SuperStrength superpowered]], he hasn't even had the benefit of unpowered combat training the others had. This is demonstrated abundantly in the (non-canon) comic ''The Twelve Tasks of Asterix'', where one of the trials pits him and Obelix against a German Judo-master. Obelix's attempts to smash through him with brute force are effortlessly redirected, and he quickly proves entirely unable to hurt the little man. Fortunately, Asterix is there to effectively ''talk'' the man into submission... or, rather, distract him with talk and an interest in the man's fighting style that gets the poor German to give Asterix instructions and allow himself to be used as a training dummy, realising he's helped Asterix subdue him only after having his arms and legs tied into knots.

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* Most of the Gauls in ''{{Asterix}}'' have shades of this, but Obelix is the only ''true'' example. Due to being permanently [[SuperStrength superpowered]], he hasn't even had the benefit of unpowered combat training the others had. This is demonstrated abundantly in the (non-canon) comic ''The Twelve Tasks of Asterix'', where one of the trials pits him and Obelix against a German Germanic Judo-master. Obelix's attempts to smash through him with brute force are effortlessly redirected, and he quickly proves entirely unable to hurt the little man. Fortunately, Asterix is there to effectively ''talk'' the man into submission... or, rather, distract him with talk and an interest in the man's fighting style that gets the poor German to give Asterix instructions and allow himself to be used as a training dummy, realising he's helped Asterix subdue him only after having his arms and legs tied into knots.



* Galactus, at least in Top Trumps. Super high stats in everything but weapon Skill. He doesn't seem to have much technique other than draining the enenmy to death, but when you eat planets.....

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* Galactus, at least in Top Trumps."Top Trumps". Super high stats in everything but weapon Skill. He doesn't seem to have much technique other than draining the enenmy to death, but when you eat planets.....



* [[StarterVillain Victor Sells / The Shadowman]] from TheDresdenFiles is at least as strong a magical talent as the title character, particularly when powered up by the storms he draws on, but because he has little formal magical training he makes some sloppy errors that Harry is able to exploit.

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* [[StarterVillain Victor Sells / The Shadowman]] from TheDresdenFiles ''TheDresdenFiles'' is at least as strong a magical talent as the title character, particularly when powered up by the storms he draws on, but because he has little formal magical training he makes some sloppy errors that Harry is able to exploit.



* Season 1 and 2 of ''{{Heroes}}'' has Peter Petrelli and Hiro Nakamura.

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* Season 1 and 2 of ''{{Heroes}}'' ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' has Peter Petrelli and Hiro Nakamura.



* The Buffy villain "The Judge". A Nigh invulnerable demon who OneHitKills from range. So used to curb-stomping entire armies and never having to worry about dodging or actually fighting beyond "point and kill it", when Buffy uses a rocket launcher, he doesn't even know to dodge.

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* The Buffy ''Buffy'' villain "The Judge". A Nigh invulnerable demon who OneHitKills from range. So used to curb-stomping entire armies and never having to worry about dodging or actually fighting beyond "point and kill it", when Buffy uses a rocket launcher, he doesn't even know to dodge.
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* ''{{Castlevania}}: Dawn of Sorrow'' has Julius Belmont. He can't use magic, which is necessary to break through seals and permanently destroy boss enemies. He gets through the castle through equal parts his AncestralWeapon and ''pure awesome''.
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* While [[{{Irredeemable}} The Plutonian]] often shows himself to be very intelligent and more then able to outwit his foes, when finally forced into combat with someone on his level of power he gets his ass kicked as he never needed to learn to fight.
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* In ''{{Durarara}}'', Shizuo Heiwajima's typical fighting style is described as the real-life equivelent of ButtonMashing. Given that he can bench-press a van and deflect or occasionally break a blade on his skin, this is just about all he needs.
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** This was also subverted in the ''Planet Hulk'' arc where Hulk is marooned on the harsh planet Sakaar and finds himself weaker then he'd normally be on Earth due to unexplained environmental differences. Press ganged into becoming a gladiator, Hulk is forced to develop sufficient skills to survive and claw his way to the top. As a result, by the time the arc ends Hulk has not only gained some combat skills but is even ''stronger'' and smarter then he was before. And also [[OhCrap really, ''really'' mad at the people who shot him into space in the first place.]] And then JephLoeb decided to turn him back into DumbMuscle [[WallBanger just because.]]

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** This was also subverted in the ''Planet Hulk'' arc where Hulk is marooned on the harsh planet Sakaar and finds himself weaker then he'd normally be on Earth due to unexplained environmental differences. Press ganged into becoming a gladiator, Hulk is forced to develop sufficient skills to survive and claw his way to the top. As a result, by the time the arc ends Hulk has not only gained some combat skills but is even ''stronger'' and smarter then he was before. And also [[OhCrap really, ''really'' ''[[OhCrap really]]'' [[WorldWarHulk mad at the people who shot him into space in the first place.]] place]]. And then JephLoeb decided to turn him back into DumbMuscle [[WallBanger just because.]]



* Galactus, at least in Top Trumps. Super high stats in everything but weapon Skill. He doesn't seem to have much tecnique other than draining the enenmy to death, but when you eat planets.....
* Lampshaded in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'', when Peter complains that he's been just getting by on luck and his natural strength and speed, so Mary Jane suggests he take martial arts.

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* Galactus, at least in Top Trumps. Super high stats in everything but weapon Skill. He doesn't seem to have much tecnique technique other than draining the enenmy to death, but when you eat planets.....
* Lampshaded in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'', ''{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'', when Peter complains that he's been just getting by on luck and his natural strength and speed, so Mary Jane suggests he take martial arts.
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-->''This is the dreaded Damien? He moves like an amateur! Wait... that fire could easily win him most fights, he can regenerate, and he's supposed to have super strength... he's never ''needed'' skill before! His fighting style is totally dependent on his powers!''

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-->''This is the dreaded Damien? He moves like an amateur! Wait... that fire could easily win him most fights, he can regenerate, and he's supposed to have super strength... he's never ''needed'' skill before! [[SuperPowerLottery His fighting style is totally dependent on his powers!''powers!]]''
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** Harry Dresden himself views himself this way, though as a full-fledged wizard he's got a lot more subtle skill than the average warlock or sorcerer off the street, and he gets better as the books go on.
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** Don't forget Ichigo himself. Despite having one of the highest spiritual power levels in the series, he is often outclassed in skill by more experienced opponents, such as Ulqiourra and Gin.



* Takashi Kawamura from PrinceofTennis

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* Takashi Kawamura from PrinceofTennis

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