History Main / UnskilledButStrong

* ''Film/AKnightsTale'': Count Adhemar notes to Lady Jocelyn that "Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein" (main character William Thatcher) jousts with "rudimentary style, nonexistent technique, but he's fearless." Adhemar goes on to explain to Jocelyn that while the visor of a knight's helmet is small, splinters can penetrate, and most knights raise their heads at the last second, losing sight of their target but protecting their eyes. "Ulrich" doesn't (chances are that William doesn't know to do so). Jocelyn is impressed, [[AchievementsInIgnorance because he keeps his eyes on the target]]. Later, after his first bout against William himself, a winded Adhemar remarks:

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** Luz being a wielder of All For One is one of the strongest Quirk users in the Human Realm but she isn't a refined fighter, only having had her first Quirk for about a month and never really had the time to formally train with her 10 initial Quirks due to the SuperhumanRegistrationAct. So her fighting style basically boils down to "mash together a bunch of powerful Quirks, blast the enemy until they're defeated". That said, the incredibly clever and out-of-the-box ways she can learn to combine her stolen Quirks show that its still a very, very bad thing for most of her enemy Quirk users to battle her, as they also lack skill and experience too.

* While [[Characters/IrredeemablePlutonian The Plutonian]] from ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}'' often shows himself to be very intelligent and more than able to outwit his foes when finally forced into combat with someone on his level of power he gets his ass kicked as he never needed to learn to fight. Weirdly, this is [[ZigZaggingTrope Zig-Zagged]]; in the last issue of his spin-off, Max Damage recounts a story of how he once lured the Plutonian (pre-FaceHeelTurn) into an area that nullified both their powers, assuming this trope would let him win because he had a backstory as a mundane and the Plutonian didn't... only to find that the Plutonian was entirely capable of fighting unpowered, and getting his ass handed to him. Possibly Max is exaggerating for effect, or perhaps he qualifies himself.

* [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEdaClawthorne Eda Clawthorne]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'' has enormous magical force, and is a JackOfAllTrades CombatPragmatist that can easily run circles around her less powerful sister Lilith. However, since magic came so easy to her, she is not good at the basics or theory behind it, which leaves her a bit lacking when she has to teach Luz' about it. [[spoiler:When she loses her natural magic at the end of Season 1, she has to rely on the more skill-based glyphs for magic, which she struggles with.]]

** However, like Cable, he's scarily smart, learned fast, and [[PowerCopying copied a lot of tricks]]. Following the Shaman Reboot, he solved the problem of his genetic flaw and TookALevelInBadass, and was arguably one of the most skilled psychics in the Marvel Universe. In ''[[ComicBook/UncannyXMen2018 X-Men Disassembled]]'', the only fellow psychic to even lay a glove on him was [[Characters/MarvelComicsJeanGrey Jean Grey]], while she was literally inside his head. ComicBook/{{Legion|MarvelComics}}, for instance, tried the reverse complete with illusion. It worked for five minutes, before Nate [[AGlitchInTheMatrix realised what was going on]]. Legion confronted him directly. Five seconds and one [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Speech]] later, Legion got body-jacked for his trouble.

** Harry himself is a Zig-Zagged example. He starts out as a SquishyWizard and a GuileHero, [[IndyPloy relying on his wits]] to get out of trouble. As he starts to win the SuperpowerLottery and gets some training in his powers and close combat, he goes through {{Elite Mook|s}} like a hot knife through butter, even once his BerserkButton is pressed and strategy goes out the window -- but as the above example shows, against equals/superiors, he's in trouble. In the sequel, he gets serious training and becomes a far more pragmatic and effective fighter, even if the fight [[BatmanGambit is just]] [[GuileHero part of]] [[XanatosSpeedChess a plan.]]

** The Beast, aka [[spoiler:Dudley Dursley]] is pretty much entirely reliant on his HealingFactor, SuperStrength, and being {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le to get through fights. It works... up to a point. However, against [[PersonOfMassDestruction real]] [[PhysicalGod heavyweights]] such as [[PsychicPowers Maddie]], [[TheHero Harry]], and [[PhysicalGod Thor]], he simply doesn't have the experience or brains to even things up. Even when Harry has half his powers switched off in their first fight, he only takes a single hit because the Beast sucker-punched him. The rest of that fight and the rematch -- [[spoiler:which, since Dudley's now a vampire, ends with Harry dismembering him]] -- is ''very'' [[CurbstompBattle one-sided.]]

** ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'': [[Characters/TheFlashBarryAllen Barry Allen]] nervously points out he has zero combat experience. Prior to the movie, his only fights have been against ordinary criminals who are like statues to him that he can just knock over with his SuperSpeed.

* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': Heralds and Sages are both the second-highest level on the PowerLevels of the world, just below [[PhysicalGod Monarchs]]. They both have the power to enforce their will on the world, but they do so in different ways; Heralds use their will internally to strengthen their bodies and their techniques, while Sages use their will externally as commands and workings of will. It is often said that Heralds of "the body" and Sages are "the mind;" traditionally, in a straight fight a Herald will win, while if they have time to prepare and set the field the Sage will win. Of course, that's compared to ''each other''. Compared to everyone else, both types are SkilledAndStrong. Heralds are still geniuses who understand the [[SupernaturalMartialArts sacred arts]] inside and out, while Sages are fully capable of blowing up mountains.

* ''Literature/HarryPotter''.
** Hagrid. He never finished his studies at Hogwarts due to being expelled, but makes up for it by being a LightningBruiser, as his speed and agility are on par with his tremendous strength, as well as a walking tank that is highly resistant to both physcial and magical attacks. He is shown to be proficient at hand-to-hand combat and can do basic magic with the broken pieces of his wand hidden in an umbrella. Ollivander himself couldn't fix a wand that was thoroughly broken; Ron Weasley was more apt to injure himself when his wand was broken, and Harry wasn't nearly as effective with an unmastered wand. In his own way, Hagrid is a very skilled wizard, just lacking formal education.

* Lennie from ''Literature/OfMiceAndMen''. George does his best to persuade the ranch boss to hire Lennie as a farmhand because he's quite strong and can do all the pulling.
* {{Deconstructed}} in volume 2 of ''Literature/ReignOfTheSevenSpellblades''. Tullio Rossi eschews the three formal sword styles taught at Kimberly, preferring his own self-taught no-holds-barred fighting style: it includes punches, kicks, and using the metal plates all mages wear on the back of their their off-hand as an improvised buckler. Main character Oliver Horn, an expert at the Lanoff Style, soundly beats him when they duel because, as it turns out, learning the fundamentals of swordplay actually ''is'' rather important. The most damage Rossi succeeds in doing is bloodying Oliver's nose.

** In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', the titular character himself. Barry Allen gained powerful superspeed and healing abilities normally story-breaker powers. However, criminals will get the jump on him because he's an ordinary person unused to fighting and crime so he often gets blindsided by sneak attacks, dirty tricks, and traps. He's a foil to [[Series/{{Arrow}} Oliver Queen]] who despite being a BadassNormal is ruthless and experienced enough to go toe-to-toe with him.

** "The Judge" from ''Buffy'' Season 2. A {{nigh invulnerab|ility}}le demon who {{One Hit Kill}}s from range. So used to curb-stomping entire armies and never having to worry about dodging or fighting beyond "point and kill it", that when Buffy uses a rocket launcher, he doesn't even know to dodge.

** And of course, the Hulk. He has no combat style or real skill, but is so strong and [[NighInvulnerability Nigh-Invulnerable]] that he doesn't ''need'' any. The [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome unfortunate end of this]] is shown in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' where he fights [[Characters/MarvelComicsThanos Thanos]], who is not only strong enough and tough enough to take on the Hulk but a skilled fighter to boot. Thanos [[CurbStompBattle quickly and effortlessly]] defeats the Hulk. He even toys with him, like a professional boxer would a rookie. It also flips around with Bruce Banner when he puts on Tony's Hulkbuster armour later. He helped design it with Tony, sure, but he has none of Tony's skill or experience in using Iron Man suits and it shows.

** ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'': After [[spoiler:Shuri ingests the synthasized heart-shaped herb, she obtains the enhanced physiology of the Black Panther]], but is still a scientist with little combat experience. [[spoiler: During their fight in the climax, Namor gains the uppher hand over Shuri, even in his weakened state, and Shuri ultimately defeats him through weapons and technology.]]

* This is a standard StockCharacter in ProfessionalWrestling. Bigger wrestlers often get through matches on pure strength alone and exhibit few of the technical wrestling skills that smaller wrestlers possess. Bigger men have been traditionally trained to work this way, making this an InvokedTrope within the industry. In DavidVsGoliath match-ups, the smaller wrestler will typically win against a giant by surviving the larger wrestler's offense until the smaller wrestler can use technique to overcome the larger one.

** Wrestling/BobSapp was large and strong enough to trample his way into the kickboxing world with very, very basic training and get a few wins at a high level before his glaring weaknesses became obvious. After his brief surge of success, he essentially became a joke.

* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderman'': Sandman, Electro, and Rhino have powers that make them very formidable opponents to Spider-Man (who often has to rely on a plot device or weakness exploitation to defeat them). Despite this, they're often demoted to TheBrute when more intelligent characters like Doc Ock and Tombstone are around.

* Bob Sapp, a 300+ lb former NFL player, transitioned into kickboxing with very little training and earned surprising success in his early career, including two wins over the great Ernesto Hoost. His style relied on simply rushing at his opponents, using his size to corner and overwhelm them with wild barrages of full-power punches. His MMA style also relied on his size and strength to ragdoll his opponents.

** In the [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 reboot]], Kevin builds his own Omnitrix-knockoff, (called the Antitrix) and modify the aliens' [=DNAs=] to strengthen them. This, however, means he has trouble using them well (as Wrecking Bolt, Cannon Bolt's counterpart, he not only finds it difficult to stop his rolling but even ''walking'' without crashing into things). It doesn't help that he has been using it for a short time.

* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'':
** Obadiah Stane from ''Film/IronMan1''. His Iron Monger armor is a bipedal tank, but he is dependent on his engineers to help him keep up with Tony.
** In ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', The Red Skull is a genius tactician and scientist, and strong and fast enough to trade blows with Captain America, but his hand-to-hand combat skills are a bit lacking.
** [[Characters/MCUWandaMaximoff Wanda Maximoff (Scarlet Witch)]] in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' has very general control over her psychic abilities, being able to MindRape others, direct energy blasts, and levitate herself and objects. Unfortunately, her powers at their strongest are downright destructive and if she's not being utterly reckless with them, she's lacking the finesse to be able to keep them under her control. Casualties/collateral damage can be expected to happen in either case. Her lack of combat experience doesn't do her any favors, either. ''Series/WandaVision'' gives her her full-on RealityWarper powers but she comes to realize that she has no knowledge of magic in an academic sense and Agatha Harkness, who has nowhere near her raw power, gets the better of her with a simple piece of magic that Agatha says any witch should know.
** Also from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', Spider-Man. He's a teenager without any training, and it shows with him repeatedly giving his opponents openings, but having the sheer strength and speed to fight evenly with Bucky and the Falcon, two professional soldiers -- albeit that they're holding back because he's a kid.
** ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'': Eugene "Flash" Thompson is the academic decathlon version of this, being faster at hitting the bell than his peers but not being able to answer questions correctly.
** ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'': Ego the Living Planet is a Celestial, one of the most powerful beings in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse with [[ImaginationBasedSuperpower the power to manipulate matter as he sees fit]] and capable of effortlessly [[OneManArmy destroying a fleet of drone-ships]] in his introductory scene. Having said that the moment he fights an opponent just as powerful as he is [[spoiler:like his son Star-Lord channeling his Celestial powers]], he gets completely thrashed due to never learning how to fight properly, as he could always overwhelm his opponents with sheer power alone.
** And of course, the Hulk. He has no combat style or real skill, but is so strong and [[NighInvulnerability Nigh-Invulnerable]] that he doesn't ''need'' any. The [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome unfortunate end of this]] is shown in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' where he fights [[Characters/MarvelComicsThanos Thanos]], who is not only strong enough and tough enough to take on the Hulk but a skilled fighter to boot. Thanos [[CurbStompBattle quickly and effortlessly]] defeats the Hulk. He even toys with him, like a professional boxer would a rookie. It also flips around with Bruce Banner when he puts on Tony's Hulkbuster armour later. He helped design it with Tony, sure, but he has none of Tony's skill or experience in using Iron Man suits and it shows.
** ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'': The multiversal villains all have a case of this. They are all super strong with gadgets and powers that put them into a league of their own, but all of them come from worlds without competition and were defeated in only a few battles so their skill levels haven't improved much. Tellingly they are all detained within the first half, thanks to the superior technology of Stark and the magical power of Doctor Strange, while the second deals with trying to cure them before sending them back. With the Green Goblin being a perfect example like the Hulk, he doesn't have skill but is tough to beat. However, still like the Hulk, he was effortlessly defeated by Spidey in the same as Thanos beat him with the former experience with him nearly killing him.
** ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'': After [[spoiler:Shuri ingests the synthasized heart-shaped herb, she obtains the enhanced physiology of the Black Panther]], but is still a scientist with little combat experience. [[spoiler: During their fight in the climax, Namor gains the uppher hand over Shuri, even in his weakened state, and Shuri ultimately defeats him through weapons and technology.]]
** ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol3'' introduces Adam Warlock, a [[NighInvulnerability Nigh-Invulnerable]] FlyingBrick who was bred specifically to kill the Guardians. However, he ReallyWasBornYesterday, and as a result he has no real strategy or finesse with how he fights, allowing the considerably-weaker Guardians to get the upper hand on him in every encounter. [[spoiler:The first post-credits scene seems to show him growing out of this now that he's become a member of the Guardians.]]

* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse:
** Wilson Fisk in ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' is huge, and a LightningBruiser who totally destroys every opponent he engages personally. It becomes apparent in his fights with Matt Murdock however that his skills are comparatively basic, and he actually fares slightly worse than some of [[EliteMooks his own henchmen]] did. It's downplayed because he does have some actual technique of punches, throws, and charges, but they are visibly overshadowed by Matt, who is an extremely skilled martial artist.
** In ''Series/TheDefenders2017'', Jessica Jones and Luke Cage may lack Matt Murdock and Danny Rand's amazing fighting techniques, but they make up for it with their SuperStrength, and in Luke's case, unbreakable skin. They still have a good degree of basic street-fighting skills, however, especially Luke.
** In ''Series/LukeCage2016'', it's revealed that Luke is, in fact, a former marine with refined fighting skills, but after gaining superpowers, he has to focus on holding back so much (since his normal punch could easily kill someone) that he can't be bothered with finesse.
** Discussed on ''Series/WandaVision''. Wanda may be phenomenally powerful, but she's had no formal training in spellcraft, meaning she can be outclassed by someone less powerful but more refined in their magic.
** ''Series/TheFalconAndTheWinterSoldier'': The Flag-Smashers all took an enhanced SuperSerum that makes them even stronger than Bucky Barnes, allowing them to surprise and overwhelm him the first time they fought. However, they don't have any fighting skills, so even normal characters like Sam Wilson and Zemo can beat them if they fight dirty. The military-trained Barnes wipes the floor with them in a rematch, [[spoiler:and once the combat veteran John Walker takes the serum, he annihilates them.]]
** ''Series/MsMarvel2022'': Kamala has no fighting experience, but can manipulate her HardLight to stimulate SuperStrength.

** Played straight with Ozai, Katara, and Toph, who are all pretty much helpless without their powers, ''especially'' Toph, who is one of the most dangerous people in the world with her Earthbending, and a blind little girl without it. [[spoiler:As for Ozai, it's not completely the case. His ''other'' greatest strength is his intellect. Without his firebending, he could do a ''lot'' of damage, even from prison]].

* ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'': In the original series, Ben's entire fighting style revolved around this. His typical response to a threat was to use one of his strength-based aliens, such as Fourarms and Diamondhead, and simply rush at the bad guys to beat them senseless. From ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' onwards, however, he is more tactical with his aliens and [[BoxingLessonsForSuperman takes martial arts lessons]] to minimize his reliance on the Omnitrix. Nevertheless, WordOfGod confirms that, out of all three members of the PowerTrio, Ben is the least skilled hand-to-hand fighter. It also states that if Ben and Kevin were to fight each other while BroughtDownToNormal, Kevin would win.

** Korra herself is described in these terms:

** Zaheer is this after a fashion. While he utterly dominates in most fights, he doesn't have the finesse that other airbenders do, thanks to only recently gaining the ability. His main advantages are his incredible fighting skills from his BadassNormal days that he's combined with airbending, which precious few know how to defend against. When he comes up against Tenzin, a true airbending master with a lifetime of practice, Zaheer gets [[CurbstompBattle utterly trounced]], spending most of the fight on defense and unable to get a hit in until the rest of the Red Lotus come in and overwhelm Tenzin.

** In the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E26TwilightsKingdomPart2 Twilight's Kingdom –- Part 2]]", Twilight has a lot of difficulty controlling the magic of four alicorns in her body, and even her simple teleport spell she uses all the time messes up. All she can do in her battle with Tirek is blast him with beams of magic; but again, with the power of four alicorns in her, it works well. As in ''blowing up mountains'' well.
** The same with Tirek. Despite having Discord's magic, he uses none of his finesse, just throwing out energy blasts and the occasional physical attack. Again, not that he needs to considering he can blow up a building with a single blast and ram clean through a mountain without stopping.
** Applejack shows some of this -- justified as she's never claimed to be a fighter. Though incredibly strong, fast, and agile, she quickly gets into trouble when faced with the Changelings and [[WeakButSkilled Rarity]] (the prissy ''fashion designer'') once nailed her with a crane kick that she couldn't even begin to defend herself from.
** This comes back to haunt Twilight in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 The Cutie Remark]]" too, where despite being logically a lot more powerful than her opponent she proves unable to land a decent hit (and [[EpicFail at one point hits Rainbow Dash by accident]]).
* Eda Clawthorne in ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'' has enormous magical force, and is a JackOfAllTrades CombatPragmatist that can easily run circles around her less powerful sister Lilith. However, since magic came so easy to her, she is not good at the basics or theory behind it, which leaves her a bit lacking when she has to teach Luz' about it. [[spoiler:When she loses her natural magic at the end of Season 1, she has to rely on the more skill-based glyphs for magic, which she struggles with.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'': Aku plays with this trope. He has shown on occasion that he is more skilled than he lets on as he is seen using weapons on occasion and is a surprisingly strong hand-to-hand combatant, but he relies mostly on his shapeshifting, his vast magic, and the fact few things can actually ''hurt'' him. One of those is Jack's sword. This is most shown and somewhat deconstructed in the aptly titled episode, "Jack Versus Aku". Aku challenges Jack to a final battle with only two rules: Jack is forbidden to use his sword and Aku is forbidden to use his powers. Though Aku manages to hold his own with just his SuperStrength and hand-to-hand skills, Jack proves to be the better fighter due to all the time he's spent fighting and has Aku on the ropes, forcing him to break his own rules to turn the tide.

* Star Butterfly from ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' [[IneptMage lacks control and finesse in her spell-casting]] and, as seen in the episode "Baby", has a poor grasp of simpler fundamental spells, mostly because [[ConcentrationBoundMagic they require focus and concentration]], [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny which is not her strong suit]]. However, she is also capable of casting high-level magic with relative ease, and many of the spells she uses (often to great effect) are ones she made up on her own. In fact, Star's magical potential is described as being on a level that hasn't been seen since her distant ancestor [[spoiler:[[TheDreaded Queen Eclipsa]]]].

** Amethyst is a [[SuperSoldier Quartz,]] making her the only Gem among the surviving Crystal Gems to actually be built for fighting. Some episodes have shown her to be equal to Garnet in raw strength, despite [[spoiler:Garnet being a Fusion]]. However, she's also the youngest, the laziest, the least experienced, as she was born after the first war, and generally considered "defective" by Homeworld Gems due to her small stature. This leads to her relying on berserker tactics or gimmicks like ShapeShifting in combat, and her getting taken out or injured a lot more often than her comrades. In fact, she actually openly ''dislikes'' training, viewing it as a waste of time in favor of fully embracing DontThinkFeel. "Crack The Whip" pits Amethyst against strong and skilled [[ArcVillain Jasper]]. Jasper wins [[CurbStompBattle in a landslide]], causing Amethyst to realize she needs to make an effort to grow out of it.
** Her relationship to this trope comes to a head in the following episode, "Steven vs Amethyst". Amethyst realizes that while she's been lazing about, Steven has been training hard and has not only caught up to her but is starting to surpass her. Despite that, the episode reveals that Steven considers himself this trope as he has Rose Quartz's great power but is still flailing about when actually using it. He views his achievements as accidental rather than the result of serious skill on his part.
** Blue Diamond (one of [[TheEmpire Homeworld's]] 3 matriarchs) normally just uses her [[DespairEventHorizon sadness]] inducing EmotionBomb ability to incapacitate enemy gems and her [[GiantWoman immense size and strength]] are enough to prevent humans (who are immune to said power) from posing a threat, but when forced into an actual fight with the Crystal Gems she just stands in one spot while [[EnergyWeapon firing energy beams]] and is eventually knocked down but the course of the battle changes when the [[StrongAndSkilled militaristic]] Yellow Diamond enters the fray.

** [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGalleryPart2 Mr. Freeze]] is an intelligent scientist armed with powerful ice generating weaponry and armor that amplifies his strength to superhuman levels, but he's no martial artist and usually gets taken down with relative ease.

* [[Characters/{{Morbius}} Michael Morbius]] is a doctor who spent most of his life in laboratories doing research before his transformation into a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent living vampire]] gave him tremendous strength. He doesn't seem to have much of a fighting technique beyond punching, tearing, and biting his enemies, which gets even worse when he's in a blood frenzy that essentially reduces him to a mindless beast. But due to his strength, he is able to hold his own against opponents such as [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Spider-Man]], who on occasion even admits that he forgot how strong Morbius really is.

** WordOfGod indicates that Peter was in fact ''very'' skilled at using his powers and at fighting, especially towards the latter half of his career. It's specified that his successor [[Characters/UltimateSpiderManMilesMorales Miles Morales]] is drawn much clumsier in order to contrast the two.

** [[Characters/XMen80sMembers Rachel Summers]] was this when she first became Phoenix. As Spiral put it when Freedom Force (the former Brotherhood of Evil Mutants [[BoxedCrook turned government agents]]) tried to arrest the X-Men, "So much power. So little skill." Later, Characters/{{Emma Frost|WhiteQueen}} beat her in a telepathic duel for this exact reason. Fortunately, Rachel was a quick study and is now one of the most skilled telepaths and telekinetics in the Marvel Universe, to the point where in one of the tie-ins to ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' Xavier explicitly warns Wolverine to treat her as if she's Xavier himself. This means that her powers are often understated or she'd be a complete GameBreaker.
* [[Characters/MarvelComicsXMan Nate Grey]], as mentioned above, is essentially Characters/{{Cable|NathanSummers}} at full potential. He's the strongest of all the Grey-Summers kids, barring Rachel as the Phoenix (and even then, there could be debate about that, having been artificially created to kill the Apocalypse of ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse (which he did -- well, put him on a platter for Magneto -- at the biological age of 17). He was rated at Dark Phoenix power levels shortly after, and with good reason: subconsciously resurrecting Maddie Pryor and [=AoA=]!Gwen Stacy (two people he'd never met), literally willing himself back to life, accidentally freezing time and living in constant (and justified) fear that he would [[RealityWarper rewrite reality]] in his sleep. Unlike most examples, even in his early days, he was capable of some remarkably sophisticated uses of his powers, such channelling Earth's magnetic field through his brain with his telekinesis to create a powerful EMP, thanks to tutoring from [=AoA=]!Forge, but he was hamstrung by being [[HotBlooded short-tempered, impetuous]], [[IWorkAlone going it alone]] and [[TheCynic jumping to the worst possible conclusion]] (though [[ProperlyParanoid not without reason]]), having no idea of the limits of his powers or how to fully control them (some of his more impressive tricks were completely instinctive) and frequently suffering from SuperpowerMeltdown caused by a genetic flaw designed to kill him by the age of 21.

** ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'': After [[spoiler:Shuri ingests the synthasized heart-shaped herb, she obtains the enhanced physiology of the Black Panther]] but is still a scientist with little combat experience. [[spoiler: During their fight in the climax, Namor gains the uppher hand over Shuri, even his weakened state, and Shuri ultimately defeats him through weapons and technology.]]

** ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'': After [[spoiler:Shuri injests the synthasized heart-shaped herb, she obtains the enhanced physiology of the Black Panther]] but is still a scientist with little combat experience. [[spoiler: During their fight in the climax, Namor gains the uppher hand over Shuri, even his weakened state, and Shuri ultimately defeats him through weapons and technology.]]