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* FanService: While teenage girls squee over Leonardo DiCaprio, their boyfriends have to settle for... Kate Winslet naked. Sounds fair.

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* FanService: While teenage girls and their mothers squee over Leonardo DiCaprio, LeonardoDiCaprio, their boyfriends boyfriends/brothers and fathers have to settle for... Kate Winslet KateWinslet naked. Sounds fair.

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* FanService: While teenage girls squee over Leonardo DiCaprio, their boyfriends have to settle for... Kate Winslet naked. Sounds fair.



* FreudWasRight: "[[LampshadeHanging I think you'll find his insight on the male preoccupation with size quite interesting.]]"
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** Very unfortunately for [[HilariousInHindsight posterity]], Jack Dawson doesn't ''quite'' fall into the DawsonCasting range. The character was envisioned as 20 years old; {{DiCaprio}} was 22 years old at the time of filming.

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** Very unfortunately for [[HilariousInHindsight posterity]], Jack Dawson doesn't ''quite'' fall into the DawsonCasting range. The character was envisioned as 20 years old; {{DiCaprio}} [=DiCaprio=] was 22 years old at the time of filming.
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: William Murdoch goes from an upstanding officer to shooting two men trying to rush the lifeboats. Second Officer Lightoller becomes a nervous martinent instead of a hero who kept a couple dozen people alive on an overturned life raft. J. Bruce Ismay is shown displaying total disregard for safety by pushing for a speed record ''White Star already knew it couldn't win.'' The entire purpose of the three massive luxury ships was to beat Cunard and other rivals on luxury and technological novelties, not speeed, as they knew they couldn't do that. Pretty much all the crew except Smith (who ironically held the most responsibility for not understanding how to captain a vessel Titanic's size) are depicted as incompetant at best and outright negligent or cruel at worst.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: William Murdoch goes from an upstanding officer to shooting two men trying to rush the lifeboats. Second Officer Lightoller becomes a nervous martinent instead of a hero who kept a couple dozen people alive on an overturned life raft. J. Bruce Ismay is shown displaying total disregard for safety by pushing for a speed record ''White Star already knew it couldn't win.'' The entire purpose of the three massive luxury ships was to beat Cunard and other rivals on luxury and technological novelties, not speeed, speed, as they knew they couldn't do that. Pretty much all the crew except Smith (who ironically held the most responsibility for not understanding how to captain a vessel Titanic's size) are depicted as incompetant at best and outright negligent or cruel at worst.
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*** Might qualify as FridgeBrilliance, as back in the days before making prints and other reproductions of paintings wasn't possible due to the technology to do so not existing yet, it was fairly common practice for an artist to repaint the same painting several times so that copies could be sold. For example, there are [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflowers_%28series_of_paintings%29 several different versions of Van Gough's Sunflowers known to exist]]. Just cos we see famous paintings going down with the ship doesn't mean that they're the ones we know now, they may be copies of the ones we know. Or the ones we know may be copies of the ones we see going down with the ship.

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*** Might qualify as FridgeBrilliance, as back in the days before making prints and other reproductions of paintings wasn't possible due to the technology to do so not existing yet, it was fairly common practice for an artist to repaint the same painting several times so that copies could be sold. For example, there are [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflowers_%28series_of_paintings%29 several different versions of Van Gough's Sunflowers known to exist]]. Just cos because we see famous paintings going down with the ship doesn't mean that they're the ones we know now, they may be copies of the ones we know. Or the ones we know may be copies of the ones we see going down with the ship.
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In case you don't remember '97 or you were living in a cave at that time, ''{{Titanic}}'' tells the story, in {{Flashback}}, of the two fictional StarCrossedLovers Jack Dawson and Rose [=DeWitt=] Bukater. Unfortunately, they both happen to be aboard the ill-fated ocean liner of the title, which, [[AsYouKnow as we all know]], struck an iceberg and sank on its maiden voyage in [[TheEdwardianEra 1912]]. There's also a LoveTriangle involving Rose's "evil" [[DisposableFiance Disposable Fiancé]] Caledon "Cal" Hockley, who decides the best solution is to literally MurderTheHypotenuse, JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope in the process. This more-or-less leads to the film's [[strike:DownerEnding]] BittersweetEnding.

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In case you don't remember '97 or you were living in a cave at that time, ''{{Titanic}}'' tells the story, in {{Flashback}}, of the two fictional StarCrossedLovers Jack Dawson and Rose [=DeWitt=] Bukater. Unfortunately, they both happen to be aboard the ill-fated ocean liner of the title, which, [[AsYouKnow as we all know]], struck an iceberg and sank on its maiden voyage in [[TheEdwardianEra 1912]]. There's also a LoveTriangle involving Rose's "evil" evil [[DisposableFiance Disposable Fiancé]] Caledon "Cal" Hockley, who decides the best solution is to literally MurderTheHypotenuse, JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope in the process. This more-or-less leads to the film's [[strike:DownerEnding]] BittersweetEnding.
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* {{Determinator}}: For somebody in 1912, Jack sure didn't give up where many people did. And as a result, [[spoiler: Rose survives thanks to his efforts]].
* DiamondsInTheBuff Kate Winslet posing for her portrait.

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* {{Determinator}}: For somebody in 1912, Jack sure didn't give up where many people did. And as a result, [[spoiler: Rose survives thanks to his efforts]].
* DiamondsInTheBuff DiamondsInTheBuff: Kate Winslet posing for her portrait.
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** [[http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsE/5333-23805.gif This]] image of Benjamin Guggenheim [[hottip:*:who was willing to go down with the Titanic]]witnessing the water rise within the ship as it is sinking.
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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the seventh, in fact!]]) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the seventh, in fact!]]) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.
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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the seventh, in fact!]].) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the seventh, in fact!]].) fact!]]) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.
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*XanatosSucker: In the universe of this film, it was quite literally ''Jack and Rose's fault'' that Titanic sank. How so you ask? Had the two young lovers NOT made such a loud and passionate scene kissing on the decks and attracted the attentios of BOTH lookouts on the Crow's-Nest, they would have literally spotted the iceberg 15 seconds earlier, screamed for help 15 seconded earlier and allowed the ship to dodge intime by a WIDE margin.
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** Very unfortunately for [[HilariousInHindsight posterity]], Jack Dawson doesn't ''quite'' fall into the DawsonCasting range. The character was envisioned as 20 years old; {{DiCaprio}} was 22 years old at the time of filming.
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** It's actually a {{Throw It In}}, as Rose was scripted as simply jabbing Cal with a hatpin before Cameron realized the spitting would be a neat callback.
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* FridgeLogic: Couldn't Jack have just pushed one of the already dead people off a piece of debris to save himself?
** He's keeping Rose's debris balanced and a deleted scene shows him guarding that float from other survivors.
** If Rose had just stayed on the lifeboat she actually boarded, it seems [[spoiler: like Jack would have had a much better chance of survival, for one, he wouldn't have been chased back below deck by Cal and submerged in the freezing waters again (something that in real life would have only exacerbated his hypothermia even if he got back out) but presumably he would have done the same thing he did with Rose, that is, ride the ship down then find the floating door. Then they both could have survived.]]
*** [[spoiler: If Rose didn't stay with Jack, he would have been sucked down by the ship since he's not wearing any life vest. Also, if Rose remained with her mother, she wouldn't have escaped her miserable life and promise Jack to "hold on."]]
* FridgeHorror: An in-universe example with Rose when she remembers what Andrews told her earlier about the number of lifeboats while he is telling her that the ship is, in fact, sinking.
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* SecondFaceSmoke: Rose does this to her mother.

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* [=~It's All Junk~=] [[spoiler:The "Heart of the Ocean" now really ''is'' the heart of the ocean.]] Also, passengers are seen hauling luggage and other prized possessions with them to the lifeboats early on, but once the danger becomes obvious the only things people struggle to take along are life vests.

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* [=~It's All Junk~=] ItsAllJunk [[spoiler:The "Heart of the Ocean" now really ''is'' the heart of the ocean.]] Also, passengers are seen hauling luggage and other prized possessions with them to the lifeboats early on, but once the danger becomes obvious the only things people struggle to take along are life vests.



* MurderSuicide: William Murdoch shoots and kills a fictional third class Irish passenger, then commits suicide from guilt. This is a HistoricalVillainUpgrade, as the real William Murdoch was regarded as a hero and was last seen helping passengers.



* [=~Screw The Money, I Have Rules!~=]: TakeThat, Cal!
* [=~Screw The Rules, I Have Money!~=]: Cal ''tries'' to play this. Doesn't work. However, there's also a deleted scene of a possible RealLife case where a wealthy couple (in that lifeboat with ''twelve people in it'') bribe the oarsmen to not go back and pick up survivors.

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* [=~Screw The Money, I Have Rules!~=]: ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules: TakeThat, Cal!
* [=~Screw The Rules, I Have Money!~=]: ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: Cal ''tries'' to play this. Doesn't work. However, there's also a deleted scene of a possible RealLife case where a wealthy couple (in that lifeboat with ''twelve people in it'') bribe the oarsmen to not go back and pick up survivors.
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*** Might qualify as FridgeBrilliance, as back in the days before making prints and other reproductions of paintings wasn't possible due to the technology to do so not existing yet, it was fairly common practice for an artist to repaint the same painting several times so that copies could be sold. For example, there are [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflowers_%28series_of_paintings%29 several different versions of Van Gough's Sunflowers known to exist]]. Just cos we see famous paintings going down with the ship doesn't mean that they're the ones we know now, they may be copies of the ones we know. Or the ones we know may be copies of the ones we see going down with the ship.
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** Not that things were all that much better for big-shots with Y chromosones mind; only a third of men in in First Class survived.
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** [[OrIsIt Or did she?]] That scene [[spoiler:is called "A Promise Kept" in the DVD, so it's plausible to assume that Rose died. Though the title could refer to all those pictures seen next to her when she is in bed, showing that she promised to do all the things Jack told her to do.]] Or possibly both. Since it's not explicitly said whether she died in that moment, we'll never know unless [[WordOfGod James Cameron ever tells us]].

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** [[OrIsIt Or did she?]] she? That scene [[spoiler:is called "A Promise Kept" in the DVD, so it's plausible to assume that Rose died. Though the title could refer to all those pictures seen next to her when she is in bed, showing that she promised to do all the things Jack told her to do.]] Or possibly both. Since it's not explicitly said whether she died in that moment, we'll never know unless [[WordOfGod James Cameron ever tells us]].
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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the sixth, in fact!]].) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever - [[CaptainObvious the sixth, seventh, in fact!]].) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.
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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever.) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever.ever - [[CaptainObvious the sixth, in fact!]].) In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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* NostalgiaHeaven: Rose apparently dies and goes to the ''Titanic'' as it once was.

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* NostalgiaHeaven: Rose [[spoiler:Rose apparently dies and goes to the ''Titanic'' as it once was.]]

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* OlderThanTheyLook: I only hope I can look as good as Rose does when I hit the big 100. The actress who played Rose was 86 at the time of filming however.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: There are Irish charcters in this film. And you will be in stitches when they start talking.

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* OlderThanTheyLook: I Many people only hope I can look as good as Rose does when I they hit the big 100. The actress who played Rose was 86 at the time of filming filming, however.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: There are Irish charcters characters in this film. And you will be in stitches when they start talking.
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** The dance seqeunce during the ship holding scene. Rose's stocking feet are shown a few times.

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** The dance seqeunce sequence during the ship holding scene. Rose's stocking feet are shown a few times.
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** "I intend to write a StronglyWordedLetter to the White Star Line about all this"
** "Music to drown by. Now I know I'm in first class"
** "If the rats are going this way that's good enough for me"

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** "I intend to write a StronglyWordedLetter to the White Star Line about all this"
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** "Music to drown by. Now I know I'm in first class"
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** "If this is the way the rats are going this way goin' that's good enough for me"me."
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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever.) [[SarcasmMode In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to]] [[DontExplainTheJoke raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora.]] Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.

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''The'' movie of [[TheNineties 1997]] (actually due to its December release, ''the'' movie of 1998). It was a darling of most critics at the time, a commercial splash, won 11 Oscars including Best Picture, and quickly became a source of many StockParodies. Unadjusted for inflation, it's the second-highest-grossing movie ever, recently beaten out by [[JamesCameron Cameron's]] own ''{{Film/Avatar}}''. (If you adjust for inflation, ''Titanic'' drops six slots, but even so it's still one of the highest-grossing films ever.) [[SarcasmMode In all likelihood, Cameron now has roughly enough money to]] [[DontExplainTheJoke to raise the Titanic and fire it toward Pandora.]] Pandora. Currently, the film is [[DeaderThanDisco facing a bit of a backlash]], due both to its being schmaltzy and [[ItsPopularNowItSucks the fact that it made loads of money]], but the same could be said of many such films. We're not going to go further than that other than to say YourMileageMayVary.


* DidNotDoTheResearch: Although Cameron was rumored to have been extremely picky about some fine details of the set of the Titanic, there were some [[{{Understatement}} minor things he missed...]]

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* DidNotDoTheResearch: Although Cameron was rumored to have been extremely picky about some fine details of the set of the Titanic, there were some [[{{Understatement}} minor things he missed...]]
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* OopsIDroppedTheKeys: Rose and Jack are [[spoiler:trapped underneath the ship by a metallic gate as it floods]]. One of the cabin crew fumbles the keys while trying to help, before uttering this line and running away. Cue Jack attempting to retrieve them and open the gate multiple times while the [[spoiler:freezing cold water rises]].

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* OopsIDroppedTheKeys: Rose and Jack are [[spoiler:trapped underneath the ship by a metallic gate as it floods]]. One of the cabin crew fumbles the keys while trying to help, before uttering this line and running away. Cue Jack attempting multiple times to retrieve them and open the gate multiple times while the [[spoiler:freezing cold water rises]].
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* OopsIDroppedTheKeys: Rose and Jack are [[spoiler:trapped underneath the ship by a metallic gate as it floods]]. One of the cabin crew throws his keys to them, but neither of them catch it. Cue Jack attempting to retrieve the gate key multiple times as the [[spoiler:freezing cold water rises]].

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* OopsIDroppedTheKeys: Rose and Jack are [[spoiler:trapped underneath the ship by a metallic gate as it floods]]. One of the cabin crew throws his fumbles the keys while trying to them, but neither of them catch it. help, before uttering this line and running away. Cue Jack attempting to retrieve them and open the gate key multiple times as while the [[spoiler:freezing cold water rises]].
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* NamesTheSame: ''Titanic: TheMusical'', which predates the film by several months.

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