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4th Jul '16 6:53:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Sewer Urchin from ''TheTick''. On ground level, he is generally considered ineffectual and unpopular (particularly because of his smell), but in his home territory of the sewers, he's one of The City's most effective superheroes. As an added bonus, he ''actually sounds and acts'' like Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man.

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* The Sewer Urchin from ''TheTick''.''WesternAnimation/TheTick''. On ground level, he is generally considered ineffectual and unpopular (particularly because of his smell), but in his home territory of the sewers, he's one of The City's most effective superheroes. As an added bonus, he ''actually sounds and acts'' like Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man.
22nd Jun '16 12:08:17 PM Shishkahuben
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* UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla. Actually, it's not known what Tesla's problem was. Other than Edison, that is.
** Probably OCD, possibly NLD, definitely not autism or Aspergers. If you take it a bit farther, you could say that his visions were a result of synesthesia. He probably wasn't a savant, because he was quite good at social interaction.
** Tesla's problem was lack of understanding by other people, being too far ahead of his time to be appreciated as the genius he was, and lack of funding, which stopped him from accomplishing more.
* Henry Cavendish (at least according to Oliver Sacks again, not confirmed. Others regard him as simply being shy).
** Of course, posthumous diagnoses like these need to be taken with many grains of salt. While there has been for some time a fad for "diagnosing" famous dead (and even living) people with high-functioning autism, and other disorders, the grounds for this are often highly dubious, and may fail to take into account the wide range of "normal" personality.
** Many geniuses are minor inversions of this trope - having a high IQ tends to make it difficult to relate to regular people, and being a genius in a specific field often makes one ignore other aspects of their life. It's not uncommon for a great researcher, artist, or inventor to be inept at pretty much everything else they do, without it being a mental disorder.
** While it isn't clear that he was autistic Cavendish clearly wasn't "simply" shy. His acquaintances make it clear that he was barely able to interact with people at all.
* TruthInTelevision example: The Danish company 'Specialisterne' - and its American counterpart Aspiritech - has made a business out of hiring high-functioning 'Aspies' and taking advantage of their attention to detail and ability to instantly recognize any inconsistencies in a larger system - for software-testing purposes. Turns out that particular skill-set makes it a lot easier to hunt down bugs and glitches.
** Apparently the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's is the "magic skill", meaning all people with the disorder are at least mild savants.
** People with Asperger's Syndrome do not necessarily possess a 'magic skill' but they tend to actually enjoy actions other may consider dull what in conjunction with their flattened affect allows them to maintain high level of concentration for an extended periods of time and makes them less prone to frustration (unless with OCD and working in chaotic environment). This trait is not 'special' much simply less common among 'normal' people.

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* UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla. Actually, it's not known what Tesla's problem was. Other than Edison, that is.
** Probably
Probable OCD, possibly NLD, Non-Verbal Learning Disability, definitely not autism or Aspergers. If you take it a bit farther, you could say that his visions were a result of synesthesia. He probably wasn't a savant, because he was quite good at social interaction.
**
interaction. Tesla's problem [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer was lack of understanding by other people, people,]] being too far ahead of his time to be appreciated as the genius he was, and lack of funding, which stopped him from accomplishing more.
* Henry Cavendish (at Cavendish, at least according to Oliver Sacks again, not confirmed. Others regard him as simply being shy).
shy, though several of his acquaintances dispute this, saying he was hardly able to interact with people at all.
** Of course, posthumous diagnoses like these need to be taken with many grains of salt. While there has been for some time a fad for "diagnosing" famous dead (and even living) people with high-functioning autism, and other disorders, the grounds for this are often highly dubious, and may fail to take into account the wide range of "normal" personality.
**
personalities.
*
Many geniuses are minor inversions of this trope - having a high IQ tends to make it difficult to relate to regular people, and being a genius in a specific field often makes one ignore other aspects of their life. It's not uncommon for a great researcher, artist, or inventor to be inept at pretty much everything else they do, without it being a mental disorder.
** While it isn't clear that he was autistic Cavendish clearly wasn't "simply" shy. His acquaintances make it clear that he was barely able to interact with people at all.
* TruthInTelevision example: The Danish company 'Specialisterne' - and its American counterpart Aspiritech - has made a business out of hiring high-functioning 'Aspies' and taking advantage of their attention to detail and ability to instantly recognize any inconsistencies in a larger system - for software-testing purposes. Turns out that particular skill-set makes it a lot easier to hunt down bugs and glitches.
** Apparently the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's is the "magic skill", meaning all people with the disorder are at least mild savants.
** People with Asperger's Syndrome do not necessarily possess a 'magic skill' but they tend to actually enjoy actions other may consider dull what in conjunction with their flattened affect allows them to maintain high level of concentration for an extended periods of time and makes them less prone to frustration (unless with OCD and working in chaotic environment). This trait is not 'special' much simply 'special,' just less common among 'normal' neurotypical people.



* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbASOcqc1Ss Daniel Tammet]], who unlike most savants "learned enough social skills to function in society" and (most intriguing for scientists) can actually describe his mental state. In the linked documentary ("The Boy With The Incredible Brain" in the UK and [[CulturalTranslation "Brain Man"]] in the US), he recites pi to 500 places and even meets the real Rainman and counts cards in Vegas. [[spoiler: He gets a ''[[UpToEleven triple Black Jack]]'' when he splits what would've been three 7s]]. Incredibly, he claims that when doing complex arithmetic all he's doing is describing the "landscapes" created by his synesthesia.

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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbASOcqc1Ss Daniel Tammet]], who unlike most savants "learned enough social skills to function in society" and (most intriguing for scientists) can actually describe his mental state. In the linked documentary ("The Boy With The Incredible Brain" in the UK and [[CulturalTranslation "Brain Man"]] in the US), he recites pi to 500 places and even meets the real Rainman and counts cards in Vegas. [[spoiler: spoiler: He gets a ''[[UpToEleven triple Black Jack]]'' when he splits what would've been three 7s]].7s. Incredibly, he claims that when doing complex arithmetic all he's doing is describing the "landscapes" created by his synesthesia.
10th Jun '16 10:45:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* Pick a DeanKoontz novel, any Dean Koontz novel... nine times out of ten there will be a mentally handicapped character of some sort who has extraordinary gifts, up to and including psychic powers...

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* Pick a DeanKoontz Creator/DeanKoontz novel, any Dean Koontz novel... nine times out of ten there will be a mentally handicapped character of some sort who has extraordinary gifts, up to and including psychic powers...
18th Mar '16 7:56:08 AM JohnPrestwick
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* The trope was discussed by author Luke Jackson, who wrote about his experience with ASD in ''Freaks, Geeks and Asperger Syndrome''. In addition to mentioning Rain Man, he also mentions seeing TV programs about real life people on the autistic spectrum with exceptional talents:
--->"I don't know about any of you AS readers, but I found those programs depressing. It seems I have got the nerdiness and the freakishness but none of the genius!"
10th Mar '16 1:45:12 PM Morgenthaler
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** Michael himself may qualify as a mild version. He's been diagnosed with low latent inhibition, which apparently allows him to formulate [[GambitRoulette ridiculously complicated plans]].
10th Mar '16 1:44:56 PM Morgenthaler
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* Haywire from ''PrisonBreak'', who supposedly has a "schizoaffective disorder with bipolar tendencies," not only has a perfect photographic memory, but has no need for sleep. A Television Without Pity recapper noted "I love it when being mentally disabled [[HollywoodPsych really means you have superpowers]]."

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* Haywire from ''PrisonBreak'', ''Series/PrisonBreak'', who supposedly has a "schizoaffective disorder with bipolar tendencies," not only has a perfect photographic memory, but has no need for sleep. A Television Without Pity recapper noted "I love it when being mentally disabled [[HollywoodPsych really means you have superpowers]]."
15th Jan '16 10:01:48 PM nombretomado
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** [[TheStand M.O.O.N., that spells]] "Magic People With Mental Conditions"... The sort that ward off [[BigBad evil]] [[CosmicHorrorStory interdimensional]] [[TheAntichrist apocalyptic]] [[EvilOverlord overlords]]. They also tend to be [[TooDumbToFool secretly wise]] characters who have KarmicProtection against the villain.

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** [[TheStand [[Literature/TheStand M.O.O.N., that spells]] "Magic People With Mental Conditions"... The sort that ward off [[BigBad evil]] [[CosmicHorrorStory interdimensional]] [[TheAntichrist apocalyptic]] [[EvilOverlord overlords]]. They also tend to be [[TooDumbToFool secretly wise]] characters who have KarmicProtection against the villain.
14th Jan '16 4:40:17 PM jormis29
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* ''StElsewhere'': In the series finale, the entire series is revealed to be the figment of an autistic teenager's imagination; a tiny building set inside a snow globe served as the hospital where the main action was set.

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* ''StElsewhere'': ''Series/StElsewhere'': In the series finale, the entire series is revealed to be [[AllJustADream the figment of an autistic teenager's imagination; imagination]]; a tiny building set inside a snow globe served as the hospital where the main action was set.
2nd Jan '16 10:58:12 PM nombretomado
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* Blackwolf, the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' {{Expy}} from ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'', gets his [[HyperAwareness observational skills]] and [[BatmanGambit planning powers]] from a form of high-functioning autism.

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* Blackwolf, the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' {{Expy}} from ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'', ''Literature/SoonIWillBeInvincible'', gets his [[HyperAwareness observational skills]] and [[BatmanGambit planning powers]] from a form of high-functioning autism.
12th Dec '15 12:47:42 PM Pavlov
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-> ''"...Amy pulls her weight by having the power to heal [the player], create cones of silence and telekinetically blast things aside. Obviously. I'd be rather put out if she didn't. In horror circles, small, mute, autistic girls are second in power only to Jason Voorhees listening to people fucking."''

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-> ''"...Amy pulls her weight by having the power to heal [the player], create cones of silence and telekinetically blast things aside. Obviously. I'd be rather put out if she didn't. In horror circles, small, mute, autistic girls are second in power only to [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees Voorhees]] listening to people fucking."''
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