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8th May '17 9:53:57 AM WikiWitness
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* Kind of the point of the whole [[Literature/TheBible book of Hosea]]. Why order a prophet to go marry a brazen prostitute? Because sure, God could easily just ''tell'' the Israelites they were cheating on Him with other gods just like a wayward wife cheating on her husband with other men, but talk is cheap and people weren't paying much attention to anything the prophets were saying just then. Hence the need for a realistic demonstration of the analogy. "Look how she treats this poor guy! And that's exactly how it is with you people and me: I take you in, give you all kinds of good things, let you share my good name, and ''this'' is how you repay me!?"

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* Kind of the point of the whole [[Literature/TheBible book of Hosea]]. Why order a prophet to go marry a brazen prostitute? Because sure, God could easily just ''tell'' G-d and the Israelites Hebrews had this ''thing'' in the old days of Israel where every few generations they would begin to worship the gods that the nations around them did, which had been strictly and repeatedly warned against since the beginning of their own history as a nation. As an analogy, they were cheating on Him with other gods just like a wayward wife cheating cheats on her husband with other men, but talk is cheap and people weren't paying much attention to anything the prophets were saying just then. Hence men - hence the need for a realistic demonstration of the analogy. "Look how she Put another way: "There's this guy, see? He wants to share his life with someone, so he goes out looking and comes back with a literal whore. He's committed, so he overlooks this and takes her into his house. He treats this poor guy! And that's exactly how it is with you people her right and me: I take you in, give you all kinds of good things, let you share my good name, gives her gifts to show his love - and ''this'' is how you repay me!?"then she walks out the door and back to her old lifestyle. Even so, he still goes out to bring her out again, out of his love. I am the husband, you're the whore. Understand?"
24th Apr '17 12:45:27 PM Kafkesque
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** Harry trains Molly to create shields by chucking snowballs at her, privately reflecting that he received the same training with ''rocks''. It's initially chalked up to his abusive EvilMentor, but Morgan later mentions that he got the same training from ''his'' master, and opines that it's the best way to teach young wizards that self-defense is SeriousBusiness.
26th Feb '17 2:06:59 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheKarateKid'' introduced this lesson technique with ''WaxOnWaxOff'' as the assigned task was menial but resulted in valuable muscle memory.

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* ''TheKarateKid'' ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' introduced this lesson technique with ''WaxOnWaxOff'' as the assigned task was menial but resulted in valuable muscle memory.
12th Jan '17 1:30:19 AM TheSinful
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* As part of a celebration in ''Fanfic/DestinyIsAHazyThing'' Anko, Asuma, and Kurenai, let their genin drink sake. The resultant hangovers will teach them not to overindulge.
* Kurenai and Naruto trick Ino into thinking she's been captured by slavers in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9285638/1/Leftovers Leftovers]]'' to convince her to take her training seriously. While Kurenai tried explaining it earlier, she realized it wasn't getting through to the girl. The lesson is further driven home when Ino learns one of her former classmates was captured a month ago, far too late for her to be saved.
4th Dec '16 5:59:56 PM Waffleface
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* This is the ''generous'' interpretation of Grand Cleric Elthina's, er, "hands off" approach in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. Despite being one of the most powerful political figures in the city, she refuses to be assert her authority on the grounds that "children learn best when allowed to learn themselves". As a result, anti-Qunari zealots have room to commit hate crimes and the Templars repeatedly inflict brutal punishments on the Circle of Magi.

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* This is the ''generous'' interpretation of Grand Cleric Elthina's, er, "hands off" approach Elthina in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. Despite being one of the most powerful political figures in the city, she refuses to be assert her authority on the grounds that she practices nonviolence and that "children learn best when allowed to learn themselves". As a result, anti-Qunari Anti-Qunari zealots have room to commit hate crimes crimes, magical criminals run rampant, and the Templars repeatedly inflict brutal punishments on the Circle of Magi.Magi, arguably as a result of her lack of action.
15th Sep '16 1:24:41 AM PaulA
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* Ender from ''EndersGame'' is put under a series of trials by his [[spoiler:seemingly negligent adult supervisors in order to balance his kindness with ruthlessness, making him unafraid to kill when a crucial decision must be made -- he ends up (unintentionally) killing two people to complete his main training. [[TricksterMentor Mazer Rackham]] then ruthlessly punishes him in physical combat until he learns to let go of his instinctive mercy.]]

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* Ender from ''EndersGame'' ''Literature/EndersGame'' is put under a series of trials by his [[spoiler:seemingly negligent adult supervisors in order to balance his kindness with ruthlessness, making him unafraid to kill when a crucial decision must be made -- he ends up (unintentionally) killing two people to complete his main training. [[TricksterMentor Mazer Rackham]] then ruthlessly punishes him in physical combat until he learns to let go of his instinctive mercy.]]
26th Jun '16 8:52:59 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheDresdenFiles'', Harry's lessons for Molly Carpenter, a reforming Warlock, involve this. He tells his cop buddy Murph that she's the kind of person you "have to keep knocking on her ass" because "If I don't, if I let her recover her balance before she gets smart enough to figure out ''why'' she should be doing things instead of just ''how'' to do them, or ''if'' she can do them, she'll start doing the 'right' thing again. She'll break the Laws again, and they'll kill her."

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Harry's lessons for Molly Carpenter, a reforming Warlock, involve this. He tells his cop buddy Murph that she's the kind of person you "have to keep knocking on her ass" because "If I don't, if I let her recover her balance before she gets smart enough to figure out ''why'' she should be doing things instead of just ''how'' to do them, or ''if'' she can do them, she'll start doing the 'right' thing again. She'll break the Laws again, and they'll kill her."
30th May '16 7:25:20 PM lavendermintrose
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* Inverted in Donizetti's opera ''Don Pasquale'' - it's the young people who have to teach Don Pasquale, Ernesto's old uncle, the lesson. Ernesto wants to marry his poor girlfriend Norina instead of the girl his uncle chose for him, so Don Pasquale decides to get married himself - and cut Ernesto off from his inheritance. So Ernesto's friend, the doctor, has Norina pretend to be his sister and fake-marry Don Pasquale, acting sweet at first, but turning into a nightmare once the papers are signed. When the doctor tells Don Pasquale that letting Ernesto marry Norina will make his "wife" go away, he gives permission - and they reveal the plot. Norina tells him [[AnAesop the lesson]] - an old man shouldn't get married.
5th Mar '16 10:44:31 PM Kartoonkid95
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* This applies to the Cutie Mark Crusaders from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. they have not yet realized that they can't force their cutie marks to appear and need some kind of epiphany. But from an in-universe prospective, they WILL learn this lesson because every pony eventually gets a mark. Also, their friend, Twist, already went through this and had said epiphany needed to get her cutie mark.

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* This applies to the Cutie Mark Crusaders from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. they They have not yet realized that they can't force their cutie marks to appear and need some kind of epiphany. But from an in-universe prospective, they WILL learn this lesson because every pony eventually gets a mark. Also, their friend, Twist, already went through this and had said epiphany needed to get her cutie mark.
** [[spoiler: The eventually had that epiphany in "Crusaders of the Lost Mark", where they realized that their special talents were helping others discover theirs.]]
9th Jan '16 12:02:12 PM StFan
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* ''Series/{{QI}}'': in the episode "Immortal Bard", Stephen Fry mentioned a story about actress Diana Wynyard, who while playing [[Theater/{{Macbeth}} Lady Macbeth]] on stage decided to keep her eyes closed during the scene where she was sleepwalking, and walked off the stage into the orchestra pit.

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* ''Series/{{QI}}'': in the episode "Immortal Bard", Stephen Fry mentioned a story about actress Diana Wynyard, who while playing [[Theater/{{Macbeth}} [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} Lady Macbeth]] on stage decided to keep her eyes closed during the scene where she was sleepwalking, and walked off the stage into the orchestra pit.
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