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23rd Jul '16 8:16:53 AM ironballs16
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Compare the LoveConfession, LoveYouAndEverybody, CommitmentIssues, CannotSpitItOut, and TheFourLoves.

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Compare the LoveConfession, LoveYouAndEverybody, CommitmentIssues, CannotSpitItOut, and TheFourLoves. The recipient (or the one who'd said it, but wishes to cover up) might use IUhYouToo in response.
4th Jul '16 1:40:56 PM skidoo23
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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor famously never says this to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctorsWife it's a long story]]) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.

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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor famously never says this (with serious intent; see below) to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctorsWife it's a long story]]) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.


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** One notable exception occurs in "Closing Time" when the Eleventh Doctor says "I love you" to his temporary companion Craig Owens; however this is played for laughs and is established as being a distraction rather than the Doctor expressing genuine feelings.
6th May '16 12:23:03 PM Lokoron
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* Austin from ''Literature/HollowPlaces'' refrains from using the word 'love', thinking himself too broken to ever truly feel an emotion worthy of being referred to as such.
27th Apr '16 8:06:12 AM skidoo23
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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor famously never says this to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; it's a long story) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.

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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor famously never says this to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctorsWife it's a long story) story]]) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.
16th Apr '16 9:13:29 AM johnnye
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** Invoked in the season four finale. After a year of pining for Robin, Barney's about to [[LoveConfession confesses his feelings]] when she beats him to the punch. She deliberately does it to turn him off, and Marshall even deems the move "[[PersonAsVerb Mosbying]]".

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** Invoked in the season four finale. After a year of pining for Robin, Barney's about to [[LoveConfession confesses confess his feelings]] when she beats him to the punch. She deliberately does it to turn him off, and Marshall even deems the move "[[PersonAsVerb Mosbying]]".



* On ''Series/{{Frasier}}'', Martin and Sherri temporarily break up over this. Martin says the words, but feels guilty afterwards as he'd never said it to anyone since his wife died.

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* On ''Series/{{Frasier}}'', Martin and breaks up with Sherri temporarily break up over this. Martin says out of the words, but feels guilty afterwards as blue. While the boys [[ParentWithNewParamour are initially delighted]], they're surprised to learn that he'd never said told her he loved her for the first time only a few days earlier. When Frasier digs a little deeper, it turns out that Martin did actually feel that way, but he felt deeply guilty about saying it to anyone another woman for the first time since [[TheLostLenore the death of his wife died.wife]]. After working through that, they get back together.
16th Apr '16 9:01:03 AM johnnye
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In a contrast, the CasanovaWannabe tends to use this term so often that it completely loses meaning with them.

Note this is essentially an English-speaking world thing. In some languages a perfectly fine translation of "I love you" can be a ''much'' weaker sentence with much less powerful implications, as even in English the term can be used casually and in a wide variety of ways. A {{Woolseyism}} may be needed in translation to get the proper tone. [[note]]In [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French]] "''aimer''" means "like" as much as "love". Spanish has "Te quiero" and "Te amo", which both mean I Love You, but the later is MUCH more serious and rarely given. "Te quiero", in fact, literally translates to "I want you", which implies a more superficial or subdued love than "Te amo" implies.[[/note]] Also, dating works different in countries outside the USA and it's not always considered a romantic relationship if nobody said "I love you" yet.

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In a contrast, TheCasanova (and perhaps the CasanovaWannabe CasanovaWannabe) tends to use this term so often that it completely loses meaning with them.

them; should they become a LadykillerInLove, they may not know how to articulate [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove this brand new, profound feeling]].

Note this is essentially an English-speaking world thing. In some languages a perfectly fine translation of "I love you" can be a ''much'' weaker sentence with much less powerful implications, as even in English the term can be used casually and in a wide variety of ways. A {{Woolseyism}} may be needed in translation to get the proper tone. [[note]]In [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French]] "''aimer''" means "like" as much as "love". Spanish has "Te quiero" and "Te amo", which both mean I Love You, but the later is MUCH more serious and rarely given. "Te quiero", in fact, literally translates to "I want you", which implies a more superficial or subdued love than "Te amo" implies.[[/note]] Also, And even within the English-speaking world, dating works differently in different in countries outside the USA and it's not always considered a romantic relationship if nobody said "I love you" yet.
cultures.
12th Apr '16 10:53:13 AM erraticegomania
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* In ''Literature/{{Twig}}'', while Sylvester is able to tell Lillian he loves her, she has difficulty doing the same for him-not because of a lack of affection but because she's genuinely uncertain if she does and needs time to analyze the feeling.
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21st Mar '16 4:26:29 PM nombretomado
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* This is the focus of the ''BoyMeetsWorld'' episode "What I Meant to Say". Cory tells Topanga he loves her despite the fact that they had only (officially) been going out for a few weeks and Topanga reacts with shocks and leaves immediately. She later breaks up with him and starts avoiding him. Cory confronts her about the issue and she explains that she was scared of those words and what they meant. Cory explains what exactly he means by "I love you", and she replies that she loves him, too.

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* This is the focus of the ''BoyMeetsWorld'' ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'' episode "What I Meant to Say". Cory tells Topanga he loves her despite the fact that they had only (officially) been going out for a few weeks and Topanga reacts with shocks and leaves immediately. She later breaks up with him and starts avoiding him. Cory confronts her about the issue and she explains that she was scared of those words and what they meant. Cory explains what exactly he means by "I love you", and she replies that she loves him, too.



* In one episode of ''TheGoldenGirls'', Sophia tells a man she loves him after rushing into bed with him. When he doesn't return it, she is outraged at him (and Blanche, who pushed her into sleeping with him). At the end it turns out he does love her, but just hasn't told anyone he loved them since his wife passed away.

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* In one episode of ''TheGoldenGirls'', ''Series/TheGoldenGirls'', Sophia tells a man she loves him after rushing into bed with him. When he doesn't return it, she is outraged at him (and Blanche, who pushed her into sleeping with him). At the end it turns out he does love her, but just hasn't told anyone he loved them since his wife passed away.
19th Mar '16 8:43:13 AM Hossmeister
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