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20th Apr '17 4:08:18 PM nighttrainfm
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** The Doctor famously never says this (with serious intent; see below) to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you").

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** The Doctor famously never says this (with serious intent; see below) to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you").
20th Apr '17 4:07:40 PM nighttrainfm
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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor famously never says this (with serious intent; see below) to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctorsWife it's a long story]]) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.
** The closest thing to an exception occurs in the episode "A Good Man Goes to War" when the Doctor rages at a military commander, telling him how bad an idea it is to try to "to get to me through the people I love."
*** Notably, this is not necessarily an expression of ''romantic'' love, and does not necessarily refer solely to Amy Pond.

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Doctor famously never says this (with serious intent; see below) to any of his companions, not even the one he married (River Song) or to those who he has unambiguously fallen in love with (such as Rose Tyler and Clara Oswald). In the case of Rose, he attempts to avoid saying it (instead waffling with "Does it need saying?") and is ultimately cut off before he can utter it. In the case of Clara, she prevents him from saying anything approaching it just before [[spoiler: her death]], claiming it would be bad timing if he did so at that moment, and throughout their relationship Doctor uses alternate wording such as "I had a duty of care" and "Do you think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" (the latter confirmed by WordOfGod as a euphemism for "I love you"; note in the introduction to this listing that "care for" is a frequently used alternative to "I love you"). Notably, you").
** It works the other way, too:
Clara, Rose and River (and the TARDIS; TARDIS - [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctorsWife it's a long story]]) happen to be the only companions to directly say "I love you" to the Doctor. A side effect of this is that within ''Doctor Who'' fandom there is division between those who embrace the aspect of the Doctor having romantic feelings for his companions and those who say no such feelings exist and that the Doctor is simply expressing friendship, despite WordOfGod and even on-screen actions such as marriage and punching a diamond wall for ''4.5 billion years'' suggesting otherwise.
** The closest thing to an exception occurs in the episode "A Good Man Goes to War" when the Doctor rages at a military commander, telling him how bad an idea it is to try to "to get to me through the people I love."
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" Notably, this is not necessarily an expression of ''romantic'' love, and does not necessarily refer solely refers to both Amy Pond.and Rory.
3rd Mar '17 7:13:37 AM erforce
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* Despite romancing many women in the movie series, JamesBond usually never utters the phrase (though the women utter it regularly). The only exception to date: he says "I love you" when he proposes marriage to Tracy in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. [[spoiler: It does not end well.]]

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* Despite romancing many women in the movie series, JamesBond Film/JamesBond usually never utters the phrase (though the women utter it regularly). The only exception to date: he says "I love you" when he proposes marriage to Tracy in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. [[spoiler: It does not end well.]]



* In Series/FreshOffTheBoat, whenever anyone in the family says "Love you," they assume something's wrong, and it usually ends up being the case.

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* In Series/FreshOffTheBoat, ''Series/FreshOffTheBoat'', whenever anyone in the family says "Love you," they assume something's wrong, and it usually ends up being the case.
1st Mar '17 3:34:23 PM Discar
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->''You know what? You gave it away too early. You're an "I love you" slut.''

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->''You ->''"You know what? You gave it away too early. You're an "I 'I love you" you' slut.''"''
16th Feb '17 4:13:42 PM TonyG
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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/TheLegoBatmanMovie'', in which ComicBook/TheJoker is upset that Batman won't say "I hate you" to him.
28th Jan '17 5:39:15 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Series/LastManStanding:'' Eve is caught off-guard when her boyfriend Rob tells her he loves her while they're hanging out. Mandy and Kristin tell her that if she's not sure how she feels, she has to dump him. When Eve tries to do so, Rob reveals the only reason he said it was because his older brother told him girls like it when guys do that. They agree to just pretend it never happened and ignore any advice their siblings give them in the future.
26th Jan '17 1:12:55 PM skidoo23
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* Porn films and videos are criticized for many reasons, one of which is the fact that - with the exception of actual porn ''movies'' with plots and characters, and even then it's not ubiquitous - the phrase "I love you" is rarely uttered.
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9th Oct '16 3:36:38 PM Terwanuli
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Note this is essentially an English-speaking world thing. In some languages a perfectly fine translation of "I love you" can be a ''much'' weaker sentence with much less powerful implications, as even in English the term can be used casually and in a wide variety of ways. A {{Woolseyism}} may be needed in translation to get the proper tone. [[note]]In [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French]] "''aimer''" means "like" as much as "love". Spanish has "Te quiero" and "Te amo", which both mean I Love You, but the later is MUCH more serious and rarely given. "Te quiero", in fact, literally translates to "I want you", which implies a more superficial or subdued love than "Te amo" implies.[[/note]] And even within the English-speaking world, dating works differently in different cultures.

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Note this is essentially an English-speaking world thing. In some languages a perfectly fine translation of "I love you" can be a ''much'' weaker sentence with much less powerful implications, as even in English the term can be used casually and in a wide variety of ways. A {{Woolseyism}} may be needed in translation to get the proper tone. [[note]]In [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French]] "''aimer''" means "like" as much as "love". Spanish has "Te quiero" and "Te amo", which both mean I Love You, but the later is MUCH more serious and rarely given. "Te quiero", in fact, literally translates to "I want you", which implies a more superficial or subdued love than "Te amo" implies. In German the literal translation of "I love you" - ''Ich liebe dich'' - implies a romantic meaning much more than in English, while the phrase ''Ich hab dich lieb'' stands for platonic love likely meaning love between parents and children. In English both translates to "I love you". [[/note]] And even within the English-speaking world, dating works differently in different cultures.
4th Oct '16 2:41:48 AM Prfnoff
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* ''Theatre/AnneOfTheThousandDays'':
-->'''Anne''': I could have said, "I love you, I love you, I love you!" I didn't say it. Because I don't. And whether you love me I don't know.
1st Oct '16 12:48:22 PM RoseAndHeather
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* Gabrielle Aplin's "Please Don't Say You Love Me" is basically the rationale for this trope in song form.
--> Heavy words are hard to take, under pressure precious things can break
--> And how we feel is hard to fake, so let's not give the game away
--> Just please don't say you love me, 'cause I might not say it back
--> Doesn't mean my heart stops skipping when you look at me like that
--> There's no need to worry when you see just where we're at
--> Just please don't say you love me, 'cause I might not say it back...
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