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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIWD'': This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler: the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted BeyondSalvation, eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]
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* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, amd the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler: at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].

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* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, amd and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler: at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].
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** In ‘’R2’’, Megatron and Shockwave come to have this view for all sentient beings, [[spoiler:and are creating the Neo-Ragnarok plan, based off Charles and V.V.’s original Ragnarok plans, to erase this.]]
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* In VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld, Lara at one point gets a chance to talk to the Doppelganger without the latter trying to kill her. When asked who or what she is, the Doppelganger replies "I am ''you''... With the ''flaws'' removed". Lara, unimpressed, just asks if free will really is a flaw to be corrected.
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** Another interpretation is that God created free will so that mankind would have the choice to follow Him or not. He could have not put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden in the first place, but if He hadn't left that door open, wouldn't Adam and Eve technically have been living in enslavement, even if it was enslavement in paradise? (Though it should be noted that Adam and Eve in this story were depicted as naive and gullible, not all-knowing and wise, after all, if they could think for themselves on how to discern what is bad from what is good, there would have been no need for the tree of knowledge in the first place, so while they may have had the free will to eat from it, it wasn't exactly a choice they came to using critical thinking and reason.)

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** Another interpretation is that God created free will so that mankind would have the choice to follow Him or not. He could have not put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden in the first place, but if He hadn't left that door open, wouldn't Adam and Eve technically have been living in enslavement, [[GildedCage even if it was enslavement in paradise? paradise]]? (Though it should be noted that Adam and Eve in this story were depicted as naive and gullible, not all-knowing and wise, after all, if they could think for themselves on how to discern what is bad from what is good, there would have been no need for the tree of knowledge in the first place, so while they may have had the free will to eat from it, it wasn't exactly a choice they came to using critical thinking and reason.)


** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'': The Templar boss this time is relatively level-minded, claiming that Individuality is stupid because it makes people fight over ridiculously trivial differences. He has a point; in-game, you can make two groups of NotSoDifferent guards fight each other to the death, allowing you to complete your mission in high-profile without killing anyone yourself. His goal is to force everyone to adapt the same culture and get along already; he doesn't really care about suppressing free will, but he won't tolerate war-inciting cultural differences. His nephew disagrees, saying that various factions of humanity can cooperate and make something greater than any single faction, and that forcing a single viewpoint will suppress this potential.

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** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'': The Templar boss this time is relatively level-minded, claiming that Individuality is stupid because it makes people fight over ridiculously trivial differences. He has a point; in-game, you can make two groups of NotSoDifferent similar guards fight each other to the death, allowing you to complete your mission in high-profile without killing anyone yourself. His goal is to force everyone to adapt the same culture and get along already; he doesn't really care about suppressing free will, but he won't tolerate war-inciting cultural differences. His nephew disagrees, saying that various factions of humanity can cooperate and make something greater than any single faction, and that forcing a single viewpoint will suppress this potential.
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*** [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki, the final ArcVillain]] of ''Royal'', dives headfirst into this as his SanitySlippage worsens. As far as he's concerned, choice is too difficult a burden for anyone to bear, but it can be lifted by allowing him to make all your decisions for you. This becomes even more apparent if the player fails to defeat him in time, where he admits he wanted Joker to accept his deal of his own free will, and apologizes to Joker for burdening him with a decision.
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* ''Series/JupitersLegacy'': While Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).

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* ''Series/JupitersLegacy'': While In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
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* ''Series/JupitersLegacy'': While Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[AGodAmI rule as a god]].

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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[AGodAmI [[GodhoodSeeker rule as a god]].

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* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}''. The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.

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* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}''. ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
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The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.causality.
** In Season 3, Serac believes that humans need to be guided away from their dark impulses which is why he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what the Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the system, are sent into camps where they are reconditioned via AR therapy to become better members of society.
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* ''Fanfic/CodePrimeR1Rebellion'': Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons; in his view humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behavior as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.

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* ''Fanfic/CodePrimeR1Rebellion'': ''Fanfic/CodePrime'': Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons; in Decepticons. In his view view, humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behavior behaviors as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
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* ''Fanfic/CodePrimeR1Rebellion'': Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons; in his view humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behavior as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
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* In the video game ''VideoGame/{{Frostpunk}}'', you are in charge of the survival of your society in a frozen-over post-apocalyptic world. Part of what you need to do is keep your people manageable by enacting various "Purpose" laws. By going down either end of the Purpose laws ("Order" or "Faith") you will finally be given the option to sign the New Order or New Faith law, respectively - part of their caption "Obedience is the highest virtue, without which our city cannot survive" or "We must all be devoted to our survival." Enacting these laws will immediately result in the death of many citizens who oppose what you are doing, completely remove the people's hope as a factor to manage, and replaces that hope with Obedience or Devotion for Order and Faith, respectively, while giving you access to an execution platform you can use to kill dissenters and lower discontent. This essentially results in the complete brainwashing of your population - with them submitting to your declaration of being the supreme leader or voice of God himself - and makes your population significantly easier to control. The game will call you out on doing such a thing in the main scenario, however.

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* In the video game ''VideoGame/{{Frostpunk}}'', you are in charge of the survival of your society in a frozen-over post-apocalyptic world. Part of what you need to do is keep your people manageable by enacting various "Purpose" laws. By going down either end of the Purpose laws ("Order" or "Faith") you will finally be given the option to sign the New Order or New Faith law, respectively - part of their caption "Obedience is the highest virtue, without which our city cannot survive" or "We must all be devoted to our survival." Enacting these laws will immediately result in the death of many citizens who oppose what you are doing, completely remove the people's hope as a factor to manage, and replaces that hope with Obedience or Devotion for Order and Faith, respectively, while giving you access to an execution platform you can use to kill dissenters and lower discontent. This essentially results in the complete brainwashing of your population - with them submitting to your declaration of being the supreme leader or voice of God himself - and makes your population significantly easier to control. [[WhatTheHellPlayer The game will call you out on doing such a thing in the main scenario, however.however]].
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The solution may include reeducation camps, a [[BigBrotherIsWatching police state, censorship]], ''concentration camps'' for those who resist the previous--the usual. If there's a MadScientist or mutant around, MassHypnosis and MindControl are also handy options to turn everyone (that's left) into obedient GullibleLemmings for the BigBad to rule. In extreme cases it will include the [[IndividualityIsIllegal destruction of individuality]] [[AssimilationPlot and the creation of a]] HiveMind.

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The solution may include reeducation camps, a [[BigBrotherIsWatching police state, censorship]], ''concentration camps'' for those who resist the previous--the usual. If there's a MadScientist or mutant around, MassHypnosis and MindControl are also handy options to turn everyone (that's left) into obedient GullibleLemmings for the BigBad to rule. In extreme cases it will include the [[IndividualityIsIllegal destruction of individuality]] and [[AssimilationPlot and the creation of a]] of]] a HiveMind.

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-->Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is a horror movie, just one with a great big smile on its face that doesn't realise what it truly is. C ME DANCE is exactly like all those bodysnatching horror movies we've seen where someone gets taken over by an evil presence that can infect and impose its evil into anyone it comes into contact with. Sure, it's the power of Christ this time around but that doesn't make it any less sinister in its affront to the very notion of free will.

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-->Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is a horror movie, just one with a great big smile on its face that [[FridgeHorror doesn't realise what it truly is.is]]. C ME DANCE is exactly like all those bodysnatching horror movies we've seen where someone gets taken over by an evil presence that can infect and impose its evil into anyone it comes into contact with. Sure, it's the power of Christ this time around but that doesn't make it any less sinister in its affront to the very notion of free will.


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* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during the climax telling Casey that he could live in a world in which he's no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the PuppeteerParasite take him.
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** A few of Lamb's audio recordings even have her deeming a great case against free will in [[spoiler:Jack, the protagonist of [[Videogame/BioShock1 the first game]], given he was a LaserGuidedTykebomb bred and conditioned to obey orders when presented with a TriggerPhrase. She then went to seek similar means of mental control.]]
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** This exchange from "The Mind Robber":

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** This exchange from "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E2TheMindRobber The Mind Robber":Robber]]":
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* In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', [[spoiler: an alternate version of Elizabeth, who provides the page quote]] is found to believe thusly. Having been indoctrinated, brainwashed and declared [[spoiler: Comstock's successor]], she has enacted a ruthless policy of forcing similar treatments on rebellious citizens to make them into obedient soldiers - ultimately proclaiming that free will must be eradicated from her disciples, "for what is the value of will when the spirit is found wanting?"

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* In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', [[spoiler: an alternate version of Elizabeth, who provides the page quote]] Elizabeth,]] is found to believe thusly. Having been indoctrinated, brainwashed and declared [[spoiler: Comstock's successor]], she has enacted a ruthless policy of forcing similar treatments on rebellious citizens to make them into obedient soldiers - ultimately proclaiming that free will must be eradicated from her disciples, "for what is the value of will when the spirit is found wanting?"
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* Several political scholars and critics in regards to the UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of uprisings and protest to establish liberal democracies in the Middle-East/North African region which was dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and came to be bitterly referred to as the "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite it's many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].

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* Several political scholars and critics in regards to the UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of uprisings and protest to establish liberal democracies in the Middle-East/North African region which was dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and came to be bitterly referred to as the "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite it's its many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].
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There is so much suffering in the world, so much hate, inequality, ignorance. And the cause of all this evil is nothing more than than humans themselves and their pesky free will. HobbesWasRight. [[HumansAreFlawed We are selfish]], [[HumansAreBastards narcissistic]], [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters violent]], readily tread on others to better ourselves, and while [[AMillionIsAStatistic our love is selective]], our {{Greed}} knows no bounds. Not to mention the ''chaos'' of [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking everyone having different dental hygiene habits]]. When people are capable of ''willingly'' doing so much wrong, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans isn't removing that free will, by any means available, justified?]]

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There is so much suffering in the world, so much hate, inequality, ignorance. And the cause of all this evil is nothing more than than humans themselves and their pesky free will. HobbesWasRight. [[HumansAreFlawed We are selfish]], [[HumansAreBastards narcissistic]], [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters violent]], readily tread on others to better ourselves, and while [[AMillionIsAStatistic our love is selective]], our {{Greed}} knows no bounds. Not to mention the ''chaos'' of [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking everyone having different dental hygiene habits]]. When people are capable of ''willingly'' doing so much wrong, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans isn't removing that free will, by any means available, justified?]]
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The typical heroic rejoinder is: "I don't want to be told what to do."

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The typical heroic rejoinder is: "I don't want to be told what to do."
" [[VillainHasAPoint The hero may even agree at several points at the villain]], acknowledging that HumansAreFlawed, they are more likely to gravitate to misuse their own free will for bad deeds. But it was the flaw that makes them ''human'', they have to take both good and bad. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech And if the villain decides to eliminate those evils, that doesn't instantly make them good... they'll just look like they lack endurance and faith towards humanity altogether, not wanting to believe the good potential of mankind no matter how small.]]
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* ''VideoGame/FarCry6'' gives us Anton Castillo. A tin-pot dictator who rules over the fictional South American country of Yara with an iron fist. He gives a speech to his son, Diego, about how he just wants the people of his country to be happy as he describes them as being torn apart by opinions and indecision, and explicitly says that the people are being "strangled by their own freedoms."
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* This is one of the main driving forces in ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' as the main antagonist thinks of free will as a mutation and can't comprehend why the other Ignis chose to side with humans. The Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the Ignis free will, they will turn against the human race.

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* This is one of the main driving forces in ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' as the Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the Ignis free will, they will turn against the human race. The main antagonist thinks of free will as a mutation and can't comprehend why the other Ignis chose to side with humans. The Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the humans, so he wants to unite all Ignis free will, they will turn against and enslave the human race.race to prevent this.
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* This is one of the main driving forces in ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' as the main antagonist thinks of free will as a mutation and can't comprehend why the other Ignis chose to side with humans. The Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the Ignis free will, they will turn against the human race.
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If this process merges everyone into one being, see AssimilationPlot. If the villain actually succeeds in creating this world, it may become a VillainWorld and possibly a CrapsaccharineWorld. See also HappinessIsMandatory (and its BrainwashedAndCrazy variant GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul), {{Thoughtcrime}}, DystopianEdict and StrawNihilist. Inverted trope of HelpingWouldBeKillstealing. HobbesWasRight could be used as another reason to justify this trope. Tends also to show that OrderIsNotGood.

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If this process merges everyone into one being, see AssimilationPlot. If the villain actually succeeds in creating this world, it may become a VillainWorld and possibly a CrapsaccharineWorld.CrapsaccharineWorld and WorldOfSilence. See also HappinessIsMandatory (and its BrainwashedAndCrazy variant GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul), {{Thoughtcrime}}, DystopianEdict and StrawNihilist. Inverted trope of HelpingWouldBeKillstealing. HobbesWasRight could be used as another reason to justify this trope. Tends also to show that OrderIsNotGood.
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* ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' fits this like a Tetragrammaton Cleric's tailored glove. The anti-emotion DystopianEdict that powers the state of Libria can be boiled down to this trope.

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* ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' fits this like a Tetragrammaton Cleric's tailored glove. The anti-emotion DystopianEdict that powers the state of Libria can be boiled down to this trope. Of course, there's no more envy, hate, or war, but humans are just automatons and state-sanctioned murder of thought-criminals is endemic.
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* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the Dwarfers are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first to accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have gone, and becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.

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