History Main / TheConsigliere

18th Aug '17 10:26:42 AM Romagnadvoratrelundar
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A NumberTwo who is the Number One's voice of reason. Their advice is valuable to the boss because they're usually right, which puts them in a unique position to [[HonestAdvisor "Speak Truth To Power"]] when other staff might be scared to contradict the boss. This kind of job security is largely self-reinforcing--the boss won't fire him because he needs his uniquely [[HonestAdvisor honest advice]], but he only has the freedom to be honest because he knows the boss won't fire him. Often the [[TheSmartGuy smartest guy]] [[TheEvilGenius in the room]], or just a [[TheConscience calming influence]] to a HotBlooded boss. There's a high likelihood of his being a [[AmoralAttorney retained lawyer.]]

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A NumberTwo who is the Number One's voice of reason. Their advice is valuable to the boss because they're usually right, which puts them in a unique position to [[HonestAdvisor "Speak Truth To Power"]] when other staff might be scared to contradict the boss. This kind of job security is largely self-reinforcing--the self-reinforcing--[[VetinariJobSecurity the boss won't fire him because he needs his uniquely needs]] [[HonestAdvisor his uniquely honest advice]], but he only has the freedom to be honest because he knows the boss won't fire him. Often the [[TheSmartGuy smartest guy]] [[TheEvilGenius in the room]], or just a [[TheConscience calming influence]] to a HotBlooded boss. There's a high likelihood of his being a [[AmoralAttorney retained lawyer.]]
11th Jul '17 8:25:22 AM Njein
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* Surprisingly ''not'' true for most real-world Mafia families. Consiglieres (the position actually does exist) are almost always low-level soldiers with legitimate or near-legitimate backgrounds who can represent the boss in non-criminal matters. In the post-wiretap era, most "advisers" are shameless ass-kissers.

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* Surprisingly ''not'' true for the most real-world Mafia families. Consiglieres (the position actually does exist) part in UsefulNotes/TheMafia. Most real-life consiglieres are almost always low-level soldiers with legitimate or near-legitimate backgrounds who can represent the boss in non-criminal matters.matters and sitdowns with other mob families. In the post-wiretap era, most "advisers" are shameless ass-kissers.
1st Jul '17 12:49:47 AM erforce
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* Tom Hagen in ''Film/TheGodfather'', and any Mafia "consigliere" in general, since that is the job description. Close to a UnbuiltTrope in that Tom, though well-meaning, is not a wartime Consigliere and is unable to smell a rat the way old Genco, the previous Consigliere, would have. Michael replaces him with his father, although he still listens to him until he grows unhappy with Tom in ''Part II''. In ''Part III'', the role is divided among his younger sister Constanzia, who [[LadyMacBeth spurs Michael into action]], and B.J. Harrison, who handles the financial and now legitimate affairs of the family.

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* Tom Hagen in ''Film/TheGodfather'', and any Mafia "consigliere" in general, since that is the job description. Close to a UnbuiltTrope in that Tom, though well-meaning, is not a wartime Consigliere and is unable to smell a rat the way old Genco, the previous Consigliere, would have. Michael replaces him with his father, although he still listens to him until he grows unhappy with Tom in ''Part II''. ''[[Film/TheGodfatherPartII Part II]]''. In ''Part III'', ''[[Film/TheGodfatherPartIII Part III]]'', the role is divided among his younger sister Constanzia, who [[LadyMacBeth spurs Michael into action]], and B.J. Harrison, who handles the financial and now legitimate affairs of the family.



* "Number Two" in the ''Film/AustinPowers'' movies (with his "Virtucon [[CutLexLuthorACheck makes millions legitimately]]" speech in the first movie)
* Michel in ''{{Dodgeball}}'', who White Goodman calls his "fitness consigliere".

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* "Number Two" in the ''Film/AustinPowers'' movies (with his "Virtucon [[CutLexLuthorACheck makes millions legitimately]]" speech in the [[Film/AustinPowersInternationalManOfMystery first movie)
movie]]).
* Michel in ''{{Dodgeball}}'', ''Film/DodgeballATrueUnderdogStory'', who White Goodman calls his "fitness consigliere".
24th Jun '17 9:39:25 AM nombretomado
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* [[JudgeDee Di Renjie]] gained a reputation for this in the Chinese imperial court in the seventh century. The early part of his career could be summed up as a cycle of "Speak Truth To Power, get demoted/arrested, be proven right, get re-promoted," but later became so respected for embodying this trope that the empress usually referred to him as the State Elder.

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* [[JudgeDee [[Literature/JudgeDee Di Renjie]] gained a reputation for this in the Chinese imperial court in the seventh century. The early part of his career could be summed up as a cycle of "Speak Truth To Power, get demoted/arrested, be proven right, get re-promoted," but later became so respected for embodying this trope that the empress usually referred to him as the State Elder.
4th Jun '17 9:34:52 PM kazokuhouou
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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles.

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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles. It's possible for the consigliere to bluff and claim to be a benevolent investigator if under suspicion.
4th Jun '17 9:33:35 PM kazokuhouou
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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles.
3rd Jun '17 10:53:43 AM EDP
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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'': MarieAntoinette has ''two'', the Count de Mercy, who UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa, Marie Antoinette's mother, [[GenreSavvy sent from Austria specifically for this job because she knew her daughter needed one]], and Oscar, who unofficially took the role by herself, but Marie Antoinette doesn't listen, the end result being UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution-and Oscar, after her final advice is ignored, [[DefectorFromDecadence outright deserts with her soldiers and dies as she leads them helping the storming of the Bastille]].

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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'': MarieAntoinette has ''two'', the Count de Mercy, who UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa, Marie Antoinette's mother, [[GenreSavvy sent from Austria specifically for this job because she knew her daughter needed one]], and Oscar, who unofficially took the role by herself, but Marie Antoinette doesn't listen, the end result being UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution-and Oscar, after Oscar dying during the Storming of the Bastille, as Marie Antoinette's continued listening to less honest advisors gradually led her final advice is ignored, to come closer to the more extremist positions and [[DefectorFromDecadence outright deserts deserting with her soldiers and dies as she leads them helping troops when ordered to suppress the storming of the Bastille]].riots in Paris]].
3rd Jun '17 10:47:28 AM EDP
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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'': MarieAntoinette has ''two'', the Count de Mercy, who UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa, Marie Antoinette's mother, [[GenreSavvy sent from Austria specifically for this job because she knew her daughter needed one]], and Oscar, who unofficially took the role by herself, but Marie Antoinette doesn't listen, the end result being UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution-and Oscar, after her final advice is ignored, [[DefectorFromDecadence outright deserts with her soldiers and dies as she leads them helping the storming of the Bastille]].
27th May '17 11:38:44 AM nombretomado
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* Dirch Frode, family lawyer for [[BigScrewedUpFamily the Vanger clan]], to patriarch Henrik Vanger, in ''[[TheMillenniumTrilogy The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo]]''.

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* Dirch Frode, family lawyer for [[BigScrewedUpFamily the Vanger clan]], to patriarch Henrik Vanger, in ''[[TheMillenniumTrilogy ''[[Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo]]''.
23rd May '17 6:26:34 PM candleeater
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* Back in the territory days, the managers were more or less permanent fixtures. They helped with continuity (eg: "[{{Face}} champion], you may have beaten my protege this time, [[WeWillMeetAgain but wait until you see who I am bringing next time!]]"). They also served as mouthpieces because, aside from [[Wrestling/DustyRhodes Dusty]] and [[Wrestling/RicFlair Flair]], they were all just terrible talkers. It's all scripted now. (No need for natural talkers when everyone can sound equally wooden.)
** The old-style managers, namely [[Wrestling/FreddieBlassie Blassie]] and [[Wrestling/CaptainLouAlbano Albano]], would walk their guys out to Madison Square Garden, but they didn't tour. (Wrestlers move from place to place.) They cut promos and were there for the {{squash match}}es on TV, but then they would leave before the match started. [[Wrestling/BobbyHeenan Heenan]] and [[Wrestling/JimmyHart Hart]] were the next evolution of managers who were at ringside every show, took bumps from [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hogan]] over and over again, and still came back.
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