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15th Nov '17 11:13:31 PM VulgarBee
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* Zoro from ''Manga/OnePiece'' is this occasionally, despite the Straw Hats not being a mafia gang. Though he respects Luffy's decisions most of the time, he has an innate sense of the burdens of captainship and he will step in and give some harsh, albeit necessary wisdom whenever he feels Luffy is making a mistake.
14th Nov '17 4:59:13 PM jamespolk
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* ''Film/ForceOfEvil'': Joe the lawyer has become this for Tucker the mob boss, helping to launder Tucker's money and giving Tucker advice on how to make the numbers racket a legal lottery. His partner Hobe warns him about how this is a bad idea which could get Joe into a lot of trouble.
30th Sep '17 6:07:10 PM babyhenchy1
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* Another Tom, Tom Reagan, is the right hand of Leo, chief of the Irish mob in ''Film/MillersCrossing''. He doubles up as TheDragon and is a deliberate nod to Hagen.

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* Another Tom, Tom Reagan, is the right hand of Leo, chief of the Irish mob in ''Film/MillersCrossing''. He doubles up as TheDragon and is a deliberate nod to Hagen. In this case, [[MagnificentBastard he is almost entirely the brains of the organization]].
18th Aug '17 10:26:42 AM Romagnadvoratrelundar
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A NumberTwo who is the Number One's voice of reason. Their advice is valuable to the boss because they're usually right, which puts them in a unique position to [[HonestAdvisor "Speak Truth To Power"]] when other staff might be scared to contradict the boss. This kind of job security is largely self-reinforcing--the boss won't fire him because he needs his uniquely [[HonestAdvisor honest advice]], but he only has the freedom to be honest because he knows the boss won't fire him. Often the [[TheSmartGuy smartest guy]] [[TheEvilGenius in the room]], or just a [[TheConscience calming influence]] to a HotBlooded boss. There's a high likelihood of his being a [[AmoralAttorney retained lawyer.]]

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A NumberTwo who is the Number One's voice of reason. Their advice is valuable to the boss because they're usually right, which puts them in a unique position to [[HonestAdvisor "Speak Truth To Power"]] when other staff might be scared to contradict the boss. This kind of job security is largely self-reinforcing--the self-reinforcing--[[VetinariJobSecurity the boss won't fire him because he needs his uniquely needs]] [[HonestAdvisor his uniquely honest advice]], but he only has the freedom to be honest because he knows the boss won't fire him. Often the [[TheSmartGuy smartest guy]] [[TheEvilGenius in the room]], or just a [[TheConscience calming influence]] to a HotBlooded boss. There's a high likelihood of his being a [[AmoralAttorney retained lawyer.]]
11th Jul '17 8:25:22 AM Njein
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* Surprisingly ''not'' true for most real-world Mafia families. Consiglieres (the position actually does exist) are almost always low-level soldiers with legitimate or near-legitimate backgrounds who can represent the boss in non-criminal matters. In the post-wiretap era, most "advisers" are shameless ass-kissers.

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* Surprisingly ''not'' true for the most real-world Mafia families. Consiglieres (the position actually does exist) part in UsefulNotes/TheMafia. Most real-life consiglieres are almost always low-level soldiers with legitimate or near-legitimate backgrounds who can represent the boss in non-criminal matters.matters and sitdowns with other mob families. In the post-wiretap era, most "advisers" are shameless ass-kissers.
1st Jul '17 12:49:47 AM erforce
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* Tom Hagen in ''Film/TheGodfather'', and any Mafia "consigliere" in general, since that is the job description. Close to a UnbuiltTrope in that Tom, though well-meaning, is not a wartime Consigliere and is unable to smell a rat the way old Genco, the previous Consigliere, would have. Michael replaces him with his father, although he still listens to him until he grows unhappy with Tom in ''Part II''. In ''Part III'', the role is divided among his younger sister Constanzia, who [[LadyMacBeth spurs Michael into action]], and B.J. Harrison, who handles the financial and now legitimate affairs of the family.

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* Tom Hagen in ''Film/TheGodfather'', and any Mafia "consigliere" in general, since that is the job description. Close to a UnbuiltTrope in that Tom, though well-meaning, is not a wartime Consigliere and is unable to smell a rat the way old Genco, the previous Consigliere, would have. Michael replaces him with his father, although he still listens to him until he grows unhappy with Tom in ''Part II''. ''[[Film/TheGodfatherPartII Part II]]''. In ''Part III'', ''[[Film/TheGodfatherPartIII Part III]]'', the role is divided among his younger sister Constanzia, who [[LadyMacBeth spurs Michael into action]], and B.J. Harrison, who handles the financial and now legitimate affairs of the family.



* "Number Two" in the ''Film/AustinPowers'' movies (with his "Virtucon [[CutLexLuthorACheck makes millions legitimately]]" speech in the first movie)
* Michel in ''{{Dodgeball}}'', who White Goodman calls his "fitness consigliere".

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* "Number Two" in the ''Film/AustinPowers'' movies (with his "Virtucon [[CutLexLuthorACheck makes millions legitimately]]" speech in the [[Film/AustinPowersInternationalManOfMystery first movie)
movie]]).
* Michel in ''{{Dodgeball}}'', ''Film/DodgeballATrueUnderdogStory'', who White Goodman calls his "fitness consigliere".
24th Jun '17 9:39:25 AM nombretomado
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* [[JudgeDee Di Renjie]] gained a reputation for this in the Chinese imperial court in the seventh century. The early part of his career could be summed up as a cycle of "Speak Truth To Power, get demoted/arrested, be proven right, get re-promoted," but later became so respected for embodying this trope that the empress usually referred to him as the State Elder.

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* [[JudgeDee [[Literature/JudgeDee Di Renjie]] gained a reputation for this in the Chinese imperial court in the seventh century. The early part of his career could be summed up as a cycle of "Speak Truth To Power, get demoted/arrested, be proven right, get re-promoted," but later became so respected for embodying this trope that the empress usually referred to him as the State Elder.
4th Jun '17 9:34:52 PM kazokuhouou
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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles.

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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles. It's possible for the consigliere to bluff and claim to be a benevolent investigator if under suspicion.
4th Jun '17 9:33:35 PM kazokuhouou
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* One of the Mafia roles in ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' is the consigliere, whose main role in the mafia is to spy on the other townspeople and find out their roles.
3rd Jun '17 10:53:43 AM EDP
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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'': MarieAntoinette has ''two'', the Count de Mercy, who UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa, Marie Antoinette's mother, [[GenreSavvy sent from Austria specifically for this job because she knew her daughter needed one]], and Oscar, who unofficially took the role by herself, but Marie Antoinette doesn't listen, the end result being UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution-and Oscar, after her final advice is ignored, [[DefectorFromDecadence outright deserts with her soldiers and dies as she leads them helping the storming of the Bastille]].

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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'': MarieAntoinette has ''two'', the Count de Mercy, who UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa, Marie Antoinette's mother, [[GenreSavvy sent from Austria specifically for this job because she knew her daughter needed one]], and Oscar, who unofficially took the role by herself, but Marie Antoinette doesn't listen, the end result being UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution-and Oscar, after Oscar dying during the Storming of the Bastille, as Marie Antoinette's continued listening to less honest advisors gradually led her final advice is ignored, to come closer to the more extremist positions and [[DefectorFromDecadence outright deserts deserting with her soldiers and dies as she leads them helping troops when ordered to suppress the storming of the Bastille]].riots in Paris]].
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