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* ''New York's Not My Home'' by Jim Croce describes New York as a wretched, depressing place.
** Also, ''Box no. 10'' (Jim Croce obviously wasn't overly enamored with the city).

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* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' depicts New York in the middle of a huge crime wave perpetrated by Shredder's Foot Clan, made up of teenage runaways and orphans. The sequels don't have this trope so much though.
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* ''MaxPayne''.
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->''Go ahead, bite the Big Apple. Don't mind the maggots.''

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple.

NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, morally-and-financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]].

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple.

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NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, morally-and-financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]].
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* ''TaxiDriver'': Travis Bickle, a night taxi driver, sees the city as this.

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* Made fun of in the beginning of {{Mostly Harmless}}, which proceeds to outline all the ways in which New York is a terrible place to live if you care about your quality of life.
* In ''{{Literature/Animorphs}} The Familiar'', Jake wakes up in a dystopian, CrapsackWorld version of New York where all of humanity has been enslaved by the Yeerks and the only free people are an underground group of rebels.

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* Made fun of in the beginning of {{Mostly Harmless}}, MostlyHarmless, which proceeds to outline all the ways in which New York is a terrible place to live if you care about your quality of life.
* In ''{{Literature/Animorphs}} ''Literature/{{Animorphs}} The Familiar'', Jake wakes up in a dystopian, CrapsackWorld version of New York where all of humanity has been enslaved by the Yeerks and the only free people are an underground group of rebels.



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* The BBC America series ''Copper'' is set in the same time and place as the film, ''GangsOfNewYork'', so it deals with the same rotten apple.

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* GrandTheftAutoIII and GrandTheftAutoIV are both set in Liberty City, an [[NoCommunitiesWereHarmed obvious imitation]] of New York.

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* ''Film/JoesApartment''. The eponymous hero gets mugged three times in a row. ..Before leaving ''the bus station''.



* ''Film/JoesApartment''. The eponymous hero gets mugged three times in a row. ..Before leaving ''the bus station''.



* ''Box no. 10''. Jim Croche wasn't overly enamored with the place...


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* Grim and gritty slasher films such as ''Film/{{Maniac}}'' and ''The New York Ripper''.
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* The fanfic series ''[[FanFic/UltimateSleepwalker Ultimate Sleepwalker: The New Dreams]]'' and ''[[FanFic/UltimateSpiderWoman Ultimate Spider-Woman: Change With The Light]]'' are both set in the same alternate version of the MarvelUniverse. This universe's version of New York has both the highest number of supervillains per capita and the overall highest crime rate in the entire United States. It's specifically noted that Rudy Giuliani's law enforcement initiatives were a dismal failure, and the city remains as much of a crime-ridden hellhole as it's ever been.
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* ''Let's Go All The Way'' by Sly Fox:
-->Living in New York
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See also the PlaceWorthThanDeath section for NewYork.

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* Trope is PlayedForLaughs in ''LastActionHero'' where, after two people are shot dead in the middle of a street in full view of numerous bystanders, one of the shooters shouts to the rooftops that he did it and wants to confess only to be met with [[ApatheticCitizens apathy by the crowd]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem and one person yelling at him to shut up]].

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* Trope This trope is PlayedForLaughs employed in ''LastActionHero'' where, after two people are shot dead in the middle of a street in full view of numerous bystanders, one of the shooters shouts to the rooftops that he did it and wants to confess only to be met with [[ApatheticCitizens apathy by the crowd]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem and one person yelling at him to shut up]].
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* In a column he did in retaliation for a NewYorkTimes piece on Miami being a crime-ridden druglord paradise, DaveBarry tells of researchers from New York asking people why people didn't like New Yorkers and being told everyone was so rude. "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Then the researchers spat on them]]."

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* In a column he did in retaliation for a NewYorkTimes piece on Miami being a crime-ridden druglord paradise, DaveBarry tells of researchers from New York asking people why people didn't like New Yorkers and being told everyone was so rude. "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Then "Then the researchers spat on them]].them."
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NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]].

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NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt morally-and-financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]].
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* The BBCAmerica series ''Copper'' is set in the same time and place as the film, ''GangsOfNewYork'', so it deals with the same rotten apple.

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->''All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.''

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* MadMagazine in the seventies and eighties liked to make use of this.

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* TheSimpsons: In "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" episode, Homer tells about a previous visit to New York during the 70s when this trope was in full force.

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NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor (roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s).

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NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]].

TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor (roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s).

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple. NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor (roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s).

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple.

NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor (roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s).

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* TheSimpsons: In "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" episode, Homer tells about a previous visit to New York during the 70s when this trope was in full force.

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple. NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor--roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s.

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Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple. NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor--roughly mayor (roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s.
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->''Go ahead, bite the Big Apple. Don't mind the maggots.''
-->--''Shattered'', TheRollingStones.

Basically, CityNoir + BigApplesauce = TheBigRottenApple. NewYorkCity is depicted as a dysfunctional, crime-plagued, vermin-infested, smog-choked, polluted, grimy, sleazy, seedy, corrupt, racially-divided, poverty-ridden, financially-bankrupt WretchedHive filled with ApatheticCitizens, hostile [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], [[AxCrazy violent psychotics]], drug addicts, deviants, a crumbling infrastructure, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking not enough parking spots]]. TheBigRottenApple trope can come into play in any story set during the city's existence but you'll most often see it in stories set in New York in the years before Rudy Giuliani became mayor--roughly the period lasting from the early 1960s to the early 1990s.

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* In ''{{Daredevil}}'', the Hell's Kitchen neighborhood of New York has this element.
* ''ThePunisher'': The change in the city since the 70s and 80s is acknowledged at one point during the "Welcome Back, Frank" story arc when Frank, during an inner monologue, laments a bit about the fact that the city's cleaned up quite a bit.
* Gotham City is an expy of the darker side of NYC in the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' franchise. ("Gotham" has been a well-known nickname for New York City long before Batman even came about, and artist Frank Miller has referred to Gotham City as "New York City after dark.")
* ''{{Watchmen}}'' (in Rorschach's opinion)

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* ''MidnightCowboy''
* ''Film/TheOutOfTowners''
* ''{{Serpico}}''
* ''DeathWish''
* ''DogDayAfternoon''
* ''TaxiDriver'': Travis Bickle, a night taxi driver, sees the city as this.
->''All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.''
* ''TheWarriors'' portrays New York as having an entire alternate society of warring tribes (which includes the police) that only come out at night.
* ''FortApacheTheBronx''
* ''Film/AfterHours''
* ''DoTheRightThing''
* ''Film/QuickChange''
* Trope is PlayedForLaughs in ''LastActionHero'' where, after two people are shot dead in the middle of a street in full view of numerous bystanders, one of the shooters shouts to the rooftops that he did it and wants to confess only to be met with [[ApatheticCitizens apathy by the crowd]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem and one person yelling at him to shut up]].
* ''Film/SummerOfSam''
* This trope can also be seen in films that take place during the 19th century that show the gritty side of 'Gilded Age' New York:
** ''GangsOfNewYork'' mostly takes place in the historic Five Points slum, which is filthy, violent and crime-plagued, ruled over by rival gangs and a corrupt police force. And then the Civil War Draft Riots break out and the area gets destroyed by cannon fire (which really happened).
** ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' has a New York ruled over by cat gangs (representing racial persecution in historic New York at the time) extorting immigrant mice with a protection racket. The sequel accentuates New York's negative characteristics to force the Mousekewitz family to move out west.
* Movies set in a future New York that take the hellishness depicted in this trope and [[ItGotWorse multiply it exponentially]] include:
** ''EscapeFromNewYork''
** ''SoylentGreen''

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* ''TheBonfireOfTheVanities''
* Made fun of in the beginning of {{Mostly Harmless}}, which proceeds to outline all the ways in which New York is a terrible place to live if you care about your quality of life.
* In ''{{Literature/Animorphs}} The Familiar'', Jake wakes up in a dystopian, CrapsackWorld version of New York where all of humanity has been enslaved by the Yeerks and the only free people are an underground group of rebels.
* In BigTrouble by DaveBarry, there's a suitcase-sized nuclear bomb is on the loose that CIA agents explain [[HarsherInHindsight the True Believer intends to blow it up in the middle of Times Square]] (the book was written pre-9/11), which prompts one character to remark it wouldn't be a big loss.

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* ''BarneyMiller''
* ''LateNight with DavidLetterman'' and ''LateShow'': Before 9/11, the opening would have the announcer make some disparaging crack at about the city ("From New York, where the subway cars smell like urine, it's ''The Late Show with David Letterman''!"). Post-9/11, every episode begins, "From New York, the Greatest City in the World...."

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* BillyJoel's song ''Miami 2017'' takes it to its logical conclusion...
--> They said that Queens could stay
--> They blew the Bronx away
* ''Shattered'' by TheRollingStones (quoted at the top).
* ''Walk on the Wild Side'' and ''Dirty Boulevard'' by LouReed.
* ''New York's Not My Home'' by Jim Croce describes New York as a wretched, depressing place.
* ''The Message'' by GrandmasterFlash & the Furious Five.

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* In a column he did in retaliation for a NewYorkTimes piece on Miami being a crime-ridden druglord paradise, DaveBarry tells of researchers from New York asking people why people didn't like New Yorkers and being told everyone was so rude. "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Then the researchers spat on them]]."

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* Both the theatrical and film versions of JulesFeiffer's [[DarkHumor pitch-black satire]], ''Film/LittleMurders'', feature an over-the-top depiction of New York as a decaying urban hell-hole beset by continual garbage strikes, electrical outages, and numerous unsolved random murders.

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* WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick seems to agree that NYC is rotten but loves the city anyway, as movies that depict it as clean always draw her ire, and the insults in "Fairytale Of New York" make her nostalgic. (She was in LA at that point.)

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* TheSimpsons: In "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" episode, Homer tells about a previous visit to New York during the 70s when this trope was in full force.

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