History Main / TheBattlestar

27th May '16 2:20:41 AM Winchester1979
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** While the SDF-1 itself was did carry a substantial air wing of its own, half of its actual effective air wing (and more than two thirds of it in the Movie/Post-Refit incarnation) comes from the two ships permanently docked as its "arms" - specifically the ''Prometheus'' aircraft carrier in the TV series and manga, and the two ''ARMD''-class space carriers in the Movie/Refit version.
26th May '16 2:41:00 PM ScorpiusOB1
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The Imperial Japanese Navy operated also two heavy cruisers of the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone-class_cruiser Tone]]''-class, that had all their main guns mounted forward while their stern was designed to have facilities for launching seaplanes. In 1943 the cruiser ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Mogami_%281934%29#Respite_in_Japan Mogami]]'' was modified for a similar role, removing her aft guns in exchange for a deck with rails to operate floatplanes.



** The Imperial Japanese Navy operated also two ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone-class_cruiser Tone]]''-class heavy cruisers, that had all their main guns mounted forward while their stern was used as a hangar for seaplanes. In 1943 its heavy cruiser ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Mogami_%281934%29#Respite_in_Japan Mogami]]'' was modified for a similar role, removing her aft guns in exchange for a deck with rails to operate floatplanes.
26th May '16 2:36:02 PM ScorpiusOB1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The Imperial Japanese Navy operated also two ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone-class_cruiser Tone]]''-class heavy cruisers, that had all their main guns mounted forward while their stern was used as a hangar for seaplanes. In 1943 its heavy cruiser ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Mogami_%281934%29#Respite_in_Japan Mogami]]'' was modified for a similar role, removing her aft guns in exchange for a deck with rails to operate floatplanes.
20th May '16 8:41:27 AM ChronoLegion
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The ending animation in ''Enigma: Rising Tide'' shows the ''Bismarck'' and the ''Tirpitz'' being converted into battlecarriers after [[AlternateHistory this 'verse]]'s equivalent of the attack on Pearl Harbor (except here, it's the US Navy performing a sneak attack on the Imperial German fleet at Scapa Flow in occupied Britain with Chancellor [[RedBaron Manfred von Richthofen]] making a speech eerily similar to FDR's and declaring an end to the age of the battleship). The photo shows the ''Bismarck'' with an aft flight deck but still having her two forward 14.96" turrets.
24th Apr '16 9:06:30 PM CorLeonis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** ''Videogame/StarcraftIILegacyOfTheVoid'' reveals that the Protoss have an even better example than Carriers: the Arkships. Three arkships were created by the Protoss at the height of their civilization as safeguards against extinction. An arkship contains the following: a Protoss Preserver who has the memories of generations of Protoss, an army of Templar warriors kept in stasis, factories capable of producing advanced war machines, weapons capable of destroying planets, and a ''miniature sun'' to power it all. By the time ''Legacy'' rolls around, only one arkship is left, the ''Spear of Adun''. This ship serves as the mobile base of operations during the game.

to:

** ''Videogame/StarcraftIILegacyOfTheVoid'' reveals that the Protoss have an even better example than Carriers: the Arkships. Three arkships were created by the Protoss at the height of their civilization as safeguards against extinction. An arkship contains the following: a Protoss Grand Preserver who has the memories of generations nearly every generation of Protoss, Protoss before them, an army of Templar warriors kept in stasis, factories capable of producing advanced war machines, weapons capable of destroying planets, and a ''miniature sun'' to power it all. By the time ''Legacy'' rolls around, only one arkship is left, the ''Spear of Adun''. This ship serves as the mobile base of operations during the game. By they way, these ships are '''74 kilometers long'''
22nd Apr '16 3:55:51 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross''. Especially later versions like ''Battle Frontier'', which had all sorts of cannons and CIWS mounts as well as its WaveMotionGun.
** Well, the SDF-1 even had a entire city in it! Since later ships of the line escort dedicated colony ships, though, they obviously have the room for [[MoreDakka even more/bigger guns]].
*** The original SDF-1 Macross actually had MORE guns on it than the later New Macross-class ships such as Battle Frontier. It's just the animation budget wasn't up to showing them traverse and fire like they do in the newer shows so they end up being largely static decorations. Those four massive railguns on the docking assembly (the 'shoulder' in battle mode) are never once shown firing, for instance.
*** The original SDF-1 Macross had more guns than earlier New Macross class ships such as Battle 7. The redesign of the ''New Macross''-class shown by Battle 25 (AKA: Battle Frontier) has restored the myriad smaller cannons and point-defense guns that marked the previous Macross class Super-Dimensional Fortresses.
** The expanded universe and Frontier show that the New UN Spacy essentially runs three types of carrier:

to:

* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross''. The eponymous-class ships of ''Anime/{{Macross}}''. Especially later versions like ''Battle Frontier'', ''[[Anime/MacrossFrontier Battle Frontier]]'', which had all sorts of cannons and CIWS mounts as well as its WaveMotionGun.
** Well, the SDF-1 The original [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross SDF-1]] even had a entire city in it! Since later ships of the line escort dedicated colony ships, though, they obviously have the room for [[MoreDakka even more/bigger guns]].
*** The original SDF-1 Macross actually had
it, in addition to MORE guns on it than some of the later New Macross-class ''New Macross''-class ships such as ''[[Anime/Macross7 Battle Frontier. It's just 7]]''. That said, the animation budget wasn't up to showing them traverse and fire like they do in the newer shows so they end up being largely static decorations. Those four massive railguns on the docking assembly (the 'shoulder' in battle mode) are never once shown firing, for instance.
*** The original SDF-1 Macross had more guns than earlier New Macross class ships such as Battle 7. The redesign of the ''New Macross''-class as shown by Battle 25 (AKA: Battle Frontier) ''Battle 25'' (AKA ''Battle Frontier'') has restored the myriad smaller cannons and point-defense guns that marked the previous Macross class ''Macross''-class Super-Dimensional Fortresses.
** The expanded universe and Frontier ''Frontier'' show that the New UN Spacy essentially runs three types of carrier:



*** ''New Macross''-class warships: they're primarily operated like fleet carriers, but carry a robust antiship weapons loadout, and have the Macross cannon, which is essentially a WaveMotionGun built into a frigate-sized ship, docked with them. ''Macross Quarter'' and its sister ships are essentially the same principle, but scaled down to escort carrier size.

to:

*** ''New Macross''-class warships: they're primarily operated like fleet carriers, but carry a robust antiship weapons loadout, and have the Macross cannon, which is essentially a WaveMotionGun built into a frigate-sized ship, docked with them. ''Macross Quarter'' and its sister ships are operate on essentially the same principle, but scaled down to escort carrier size.
28th Feb '16 6:52:55 AM EDP
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Most ships in ''Series/BabylonFive'' have at least some fighter complement, and all uses beam weapons. In general, the fighters primarily attack other fighters, and get in damage on the capital warships where they can to make it easier for the bigger ships to win the fight, as fighter weaponry really isn't powerful enough to outright kill capital warships on their own.
* The ''Excalibur'' in ''Series/{{Crusade}}'' implements a new design that reduces the ship's vulnerability. This is especially evident with the ''Omega''-class destroyers, whose hangar is at the front of the ship, giving the enemy a clear shot at the vulnerable innards. The ''Excalibur'' launches fighters by extending a crane of sorts that has [=StarFuries=] attached to it. The ship also has the hangar at the front, but it is normally closed during battle, only opening to receive the fighters after the end of the fight.

to:

* Most ships in ''Series/BabylonFive'' have are type 1: they have at least some fighter complement, and all uses have a large array of beam weapons. In general, the fighters primarily attack other fighters, and get in damage on the capital warships where they can to make it easier for the bigger ships to win the fight, as fighter weaponry really isn't powerful enough to outright kill capital warships on their own.
* ** The ''Excalibur'' in the spin-off ''Series/{{Crusade}}'' implements a new design that reduces the ship's vulnerability. This is especially evident with the ''Omega''-class destroyers, whose hangar is at the front of the ship, giving the enemy a clear shot at the vulnerable innards. The ''Excalibur'' launches fighters by extending a crane of sorts that has [=StarFuries=] attached to it. The ship also has the hangar at the front, but it is normally closed during battle, only opening to receive the fighters after the end of the fight.fight.
** The ExpandedUniverse adds dedicated carriers, and Earth's ''Avenger'' and ''Omega'' Delta (a variant of the ''Omega''-class destroyer trading guns for more fighters) and the Cascor ''Qoccata'' are type 2 battlestars, having their fighter wings as their main combat arm and enough weapons to defend themselves and finish off the enemy ships.
30th Jan '16 11:54:07 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''{{Traveller}}'' had several "carrier" starships with [[WaveMotionGun spinal mount weapons]] and fighters or gunboat/corvette-style "Battle Riders". This was also true of the ''Tigress''-class dreadnought, and indeed most Imperial cruisers and battleships.

to:

* ''{{Traveller}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'' had several "carrier" starships with [[WaveMotionGun spinal mount weapons]] and fighters or gunboat/corvette-style "Battle Riders". This was also true of the ''Tigress''-class dreadnought, and indeed most Imperial cruisers and battleships.



* One of the sample ships in {{GURPS}}: Spaceships is a massive dreadnought that carry 100000 tons of other ships inside, the idea being that it can carry its own escort fleet from place to place.
* ''JovianChronicles'': The Jovian Godsfire class super carrier and the CEGA Poseidon class Battleship. Somewhat justified that both were originally designed as battleships, but had exo and fighter bays added later on. The Valiant carrier qualifies due to its Wave Motion Gun described below.
* The battleships of ''StarFleetBattles'' exemplify this trope, with the greatest firepower in the game ''and'' large (for the game - around a dozen) fighter contingents. "Historically" only the Klingons built them and [[AwesomeButImpractical they aren't very successful]], but they're [[CoolShip just so cool]] that every race gets a conjectural battleship and the Klingons get [[UpToEleven a conjectural super-battleship]] in one of the expansions.

to:

* One of the sample ships in {{GURPS}}: TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}: Spaceships is a massive dreadnought that carry 100000 tons of other ships inside, the idea being that it can carry its own escort fleet from place to place.
* ''JovianChronicles'': ''TabletopGame/JovianChronicles'': The Jovian Godsfire class super carrier and the CEGA Poseidon class Battleship. Somewhat justified that both were originally designed as battleships, but had exo and fighter bays added later on. The Valiant carrier qualifies due to its Wave Motion Gun described below.
* The battleships of ''StarFleetBattles'' ''TabletopGame/StarFleetBattles'' exemplify this trope, with the greatest firepower in the game ''and'' large (for the game - around a dozen) fighter contingents. "Historically" only the Klingons built them and [[AwesomeButImpractical they aren't very successful]], but they're [[CoolShip just so cool]] that every race gets a conjectural battleship and the Klingons get [[UpToEleven a conjectural super-battleship]] in one of the expansions.



* ''CrimsonSkies'' has Zeppelins that carry from 6 to 12 planes and 4 to 6 12-inch naval guns (basically battleship guns from 1900-1912), making them both the Battlestar ''and'' an AirborneAircraftCarrier.

to:

* ''CrimsonSkies'' ''TabletopGame/CrimsonSkies'' has Zeppelins that carry from 6 to 12 planes and 4 to 6 12-inch naval guns (basically battleship guns from 1900-1912), making them both the Battlestar ''and'' an AirborneAircraftCarrier.
29th Jan '16 7:49:56 AM kraas
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Star Destroyers from ''StarWars''.

to:

* The Imperial Star Destroyers from ''StarWars''.''StarWars'', and their Rebel Alliance counterparts, the Mon Calamari Star Cruisers.
17th Jan '16 5:47:29 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In the ''StarControl'' series, the Ur-Quan Dreadnought can launch swarms of fighters to pick apart any ships its main gun can't obliterate. It's obviously meant to ''look'' almost exactly like the original Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}... well, if it were green, and crewed by ScaryDogmaticAliens who are the antagonists rather than the heroes.

to:

* In the ''StarControl'' ''VideoGame/StarControl'' series, the Ur-Quan Dreadnought can launch swarms of fighters to pick apart any ships its main gun can't obliterate. It's obviously meant to ''look'' almost exactly like the original Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}... well, if it were green, and crewed by ScaryDogmaticAliens who are the antagonists rather than the heroes.
This list shows the last 10 events of 363. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.TheBattlestar