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10th Jun '17 9:00:22 AM nombretomado
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* Sounds like Phase (Ayla Goodkind) at SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy in the WhateleyUniverse. Phase has been in Montessori and prep schools his whole life, and is shooting for all 'A's while taking a huge courseload, including several junior/senior classes even though he's a frosh. Even his friends have pointed out the 'what are you going to do when you get a B grade' issue to him.

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* Sounds like Phase (Ayla Goodkind) at SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy in the WhateleyUniverse.Literature/WhateleyUniverse. Phase has been in Montessori and prep schools his whole life, and is shooting for all 'A's while taking a huge courseload, including several junior/senior classes even though he's a frosh. Even his friends have pointed out the 'what are you going to do when you get a B grade' issue to him.
21st May '17 9:02:23 AM nombretomado
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* In ''AVeryPotterMusical'', Voldemort suggests giving all of Quirrel's students a B minus on their test results. Because it would be pure evil.

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* In ''AVeryPotterMusical'', ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'', Voldemort suggests giving all of Quirrel's students a B minus on their test results. Because it would be pure evil.
9th Apr '17 6:19:21 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Series/TheWestWing'', the President mentions that he scored 1590 on the SATs (after someone suggested that he got a perfect 1600), and then retook the test just to get the exact same score again.

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* In ''Series/TheWestWing'', the President mentions that he scored 1590 on the SATs UsefulNotes/SATs (after someone suggested that he got a perfect 1600), and then retook the test just to get the exact same score again.



** In "Him Diddle Riddle," one of Him's tasks to the girls is to take their SATs and get a score of 100. Buttercup scores a 25, Blossom (to her confused anger) scores a 10, but Bubbles--whose SAT sheet was done up with a drawing of a flower--scored ''1075''.

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** In "Him Diddle Riddle," one of Him's tasks to the girls is to take their SATs UsefulNotes/SATs and get a score of 100. Buttercup scores a 25, Blossom (to her confused anger) scores a 10, but Bubbles--whose SAT sheet was done up with a drawing of a flower--scored ''1075''.
24th Mar '17 9:03:07 AM Nohbody
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[[AC:School Advancement/Entrance Related Consequences]]
* Graduate school. Depending on the program, 3.0 out of 4.0 is often considered the lowest acceptable grade, and funding has been severely cut for grade point averages that would make undergrads very happy. Students can get lectured about receiving 3.5 out of 4.0. Does not help keep grad students sane.
** Of course, it is common knowledge that "everybody gets A's in grad school" because grades are not important enough for professors to bother with a competitive grade curve.
* Colleges these days often list the preferred GPA and/or minimum GPA for applicants. Most don't go below 3.0, and the rest don't usually dip below 2.5.
* Some college professors use a fully curved grading scale. This means that the highest scoring person gets an A and the lowest gets an F, so what would be a B could be much worse, if the rest of the class is sufficiently ahead of you.
* The International Baccalaureate program is almost entirely composed of [[AsianAndNerdy people]] who fit this trope, even though the IB program is notorious for being difficult.
** Schools who do pre-IB courses tend to have half or more of the kids drop the program before even reaching actual IB, due to the level of work required for good grades.
** Even worse when some of the classes (especially when combined with all other IB classes for those going for a full IB Diploma), '''you will fail'''. (I'm looking at you, IB Physics/Chemistry)
* Go to any high school with an AP program. Talk to the teacher in charge of that program. Any teacher. They will all tell you stories of students freaking out for this exact reason. Makes you wonder why more schools don't have AP programs.
** Due to the aforementioned increased difficulty of IB and AP, some schools now grade those classes on 4.5 or 5.0 scales--so a B is still a 4.0, possibly to put less stress on the students. This is referred to as a "weighted" grade, though, and your un-weighted grades are still shown with it, since some colleges or other organizations only want the latter anyway.
** There's also the fact that while for AP exam a 3 (out of 5) is a pass, most colleges now only accept 4 or 5 for credit, and IB, which teaches half its courses at "higher level" and half at "standard level" colleges usually only take the higher level passes as credits. You can pass or even get full marks on IB Calculus, but if it's "only" standard level a lot of schools won't count it and make you take college algebra anyway.
** Furthermore, when high school GPA for the purposes of choosing valedictorian is concerned, many schools use the weighted scores. This means that it is possible to get a high school GPA greater than 4.0, and so students aiming for valedictorian have to pack as many AP classes into their schedule as they can AND get as many A's as they can to have a chance. A student with perfect A's all four years but not enough AP classes can still be beaten in this system.
* Justified in the case of some scholarships; a B or C average could literally be synonymous with losing a scholarship and having to drop out due to being unable to pay for school.
* Many private schools in the northeastern US are extremely competitive to the point that it is not uncommon for middle school students to cry for getting an A-
* Several non-American universities have more relaxed standards, sometimes where even anything above 80% is an A. Depending on your point of view, this can make getting a B even ''more'' painful.
** In most places in Canada, 80% and above ''is'' an A (with everything 90% and above being A+).
** At the University of Oxford, 70% is the grade boundary for first-class honours (highest honours possible). This is much harder to achieve than you might think, and it is very easy to slip down the grades... anything less than 60% (upper second) tends to get frowned upon.
* In the US, grades for the first semester of law school frequently induce this reaction. Many law students were at the top of their class as undergraduates, but because law school grades are curved and usually based on a single exam, very few get A's and only a few more get A-'s. This causes a lot of first-year law students to freak out.
* During the Vietnam War, college students were exempt from the draft. If you were failing many classes and on the verge of failing out of school altogether, the difference between an A and a B in a class you ''were'' passing could conceivably mean the difference between another year of keggers and flirting with coeds and getting sent halfway across the world to get shot at. Realizing this, many sympathetic teachers began lowering their standards, leading to grade inflation, for which many of us tropers are currently paying.
* On top of everything else, grading scale can vary by what school or even which class you attend. For example, one scale goes by 6 instead of ten, where an [[http://www.cf.edu/smartcatalog/1552.htm A is 94% or higher, a B is 97-93%, etc.]] This can artificially increase the difficulty of a class and torment students trying to make straight A's.

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* Believe it or not, in Korea a fourth grader committed suicide because his grades were declining.
* The many, many, sad tales of kids who are grounded, beaten, or [[OffingTheOffspring worse]] by overbearing parents who don't like it when their kids bring home B or C grades.
* [[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Asian%20Grading%20Scale&defid=3403390 This]]. While not as drastic, still pretty much captures the mentality.



* One of the biggest rivalries among America's tiny, academically-obsessed liberal arts colleges is the one between Williams and Amherst. One year, some Amherst students chemically burned an "A" into the Williams quad before the annual football game. The following year, some Williams students went down to Amherst and burned a "B+" into theirs.



* As seen on the EightPointEight page, {{Reviews|AreTheGospel}} ''do'' have some effect on game purchasing decisions, leaving publishers fearing the reviews much like students do teachers.
15th Mar '17 8:37:48 AM MrCandle
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* Colleges these days often list the preferred GPA and.or minimum GPA for applicants. most don't go below 3.0, and the rest don't usually dip below 2.5.

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* Colleges these days often list the preferred GPA and.or and/or minimum GPA for applicants. most Most don't go below 3.0, and the rest don't usually dip below 2.5.



** There's also the fact that while for AP exam a 3 (out of 5) is a pass, most colleges now only accept 4 or 5 for credit, and IB, which teaches half it's courses at "higher level" and half at "standard level" colleges usually only take the higher level passes as credits. You can pass or even get full marks on IB Calculus, but if it's "only" standard level a lot of schools won't count it and make you take college algebra anyway.

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** There's also the fact that while for AP exam a 3 (out of 5) is a pass, most colleges now only accept 4 or 5 for credit, and IB, which teaches half it's its courses at "higher level" and half at "standard level" colleges usually only take the higher level passes as credits. You can pass or even get full marks on IB Calculus, but if it's "only" standard level a lot of schools won't count it and make you take college algebra anyway.
27th Jan '17 3:39:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'' we get this piece of dialogue from Alex after they invite Ugh! to their school

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* In ''WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'' ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'' we get this piece of dialogue from Alex after they invite Ugh! to their school
26th Jan '17 2:47:55 PM foxley
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* ''Series/OddSquad'': When Olympia receives the satisfaction reports from the villains she has stopped, she receives 10s from all but one. This so incenses her that she sets out to track down who gave her the one. It turns out that the villain actually thought she deserved a 10, but gave her a 1 to bait her into a trap.
17th Jan '17 11:02:46 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* In ''VideoGame/{{maimai}}'', the minimum grade to clear a song is an A, achieved by earning an 80% Achievement Rate; a B (or below) will fail you. Fortunately, [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist failing a song does not cause a game over]]. Justified due to RankInflation; after A, there's the grades AA, AAA, S, SS, and SSS.
2nd Jan '17 12:01:43 PM thealienhand
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TruthInTelevision, as anyone who has seen high school A.P./I.B. students receiving their grades can attest. With the onset of the Internet and teachers posting grade updates online, this usually happens well before the report card actually arrives. Also pops up in VideoGames with end-of-level ranking systems. Especially when multiple scores are given across an entire stage; ending with twelve S-Ranks and one A-Rank means an A-Rank for the entire stage.

Compare ThePerfectionist. If someone else got a higher grade, it can be a case of SecondPlaceIsForLosers and it is happens often it can become a case of AlwaysSecondBest. [[FelonyMisdemeanor What Do You Mean, It's Not Heinous?]] is often the character's response to "It's just a 'B.'" If your character isn't bright enough to be traumatized by this trope, then perhaps they'll balk at their FMinusMinus. A similar attitude regarding reviews of works, particularly video games, is known as EightPointEight.

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TruthInTelevision, as anyone who has seen high school A.P./I.B. students receiving their grades can attest. With the onset of the Internet and teachers posting grade updates online, this usually happens well before the report card actually arrives. Also pops up in VideoGames with end-of-level ranking systems. Especially systems, especially when multiple scores are given across an entire stage; ending with twelve S-Ranks and one A-Rank means an A-Rank for the entire stage.

Compare ThePerfectionist. If someone else got a higher grade, it can be a case of SecondPlaceIsForLosers and if it is happens often it can become a case of AlwaysSecondBest. [[FelonyMisdemeanor What Do You Mean, It's Not Heinous?]] is often the character's response to "It's just a 'B.'" If your character isn't bright enough to be traumatized by this trope, then perhaps they'll balk at their FMinusMinus. A similar attitude regarding reviews of works, particularly video games, is known as EightPointEight.
22nd Dec '16 1:19:26 AM LancelotG
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'': By Melissa's own admission, a tremendous portion of her self-esteem is wrapped up in her grade-point average. In the episode "Sunny Side Up," she's forced to work with [[TheJinx Milo]] on a [[EggSitting science project which requires the team to build a container that will prevent an egg from breaking]]; [[OhCrap having had some experience with Milo]], [[CrazyPrepared she loads a wagon with egg cartons]], not one of which goes to waste.
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