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* Of course, ''Southie'', starring [[Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock Donnie Wahlberg]]. Memorably had a tagline which claimed that the neighborhood was "the most dangerous city in America!" Yeah... no.

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* Of course, ''Southie'', ''Film/{{Southie}}'', starring [[Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock Donnie Wahlberg]]. Memorably had a tagline which claimed that the neighborhood was "the most dangerous city in America!" Yeah... no.



* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, who was actually raised in Cambridge, MA, and actively tried to get people who really lived there to contribute with the film, and Creator/DennisLehane, the author of the book it's based on, grew up in Dorchester.

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* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, Creator/BenAffleck, who was actually raised in Cambridge, MA, and actively tried to get people who really lived there to contribute with the film, and Creator/DennisLehane, the author of the book it's based on, grew up in Dorchester.
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* The ''Series/CriminalMinds'' episode "Drive" takes place in Southie. They do note that the area's been gentrified and even if it hadn't, public display of headless bodies is out of the ordinary. The unsub turns out to be motivated by the hypocrisy of his RaisedCatholic upbringing, which can be Irish if you squint, but otherwise, the area itself doesn't play too heavily into the episode.

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* The ''Series/CriminalMinds'' episode "Drive" takes place in Southie. They do note that the area's been gentrified and even if it hadn't, public display of headless bodies is out of the ordinary. The unsub turns out to be motivated by the hypocrisy of his RaisedCatholic Catholic upbringing, which can be Irish if you squint, but otherwise, the area itself doesn't play too heavily into the episode.
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Compare HollywoodNewEngland, TheIrishMob (for the real crooks), BrooklynRage, ViolentGlaswegian, and FightingIrish.

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Compare HollywoodNewEngland, TheIrishMob (for the real crooks), BrooklynRage, ViolentGlaswegian, and FightingIrish.
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* ''WesternAnimation/CarmenSandiego'': Zack and Ivy grew up in Southie. They're both somewhat rough and tumble, less cultured and rely more on brute force than Carmen, but they're also genuinely good, friendly people with a strong moral code. Their backstory episode reveals that they ''did'' have to resort to borrowing money from a loan shark in order to build a race car and follow their dreams, and an ill-timed crash caused them to resort to theft from a mob-owned donut shop.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CarmenSandiego'': Zack and Ivy grew up in Southie. They're both somewhat rough and tumble, less cultured and rely more on brute force than Carmen, but they're also genuinely good, friendly people with a strong moral code. Their backstory episode reveals that they ''did'' have to resort to borrowing money from a loan shark in order to build a race car and follow their dreams, and an ill-timed crash caused them to resort to theft from a supposedly mob-owned (actually V.I.L.E.-owned) donut shop.
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* The ''Series/CriminalMinds'' episode "Drive" takes place in Southie. They do note that the area's been gentrified and even if it hadn't, public display of headless bodies is out of the ordinary. The unsub turns out to be motivated by the hypocrisy of his RaisedCatholic upbringing, which can be Irish if you squint, but otherwise, the area itself doesn't play too heavily into the episode.


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* ''WesternAnimation/CarmenSandiego'': Zack and Ivy grew up in Southie. They're both somewhat rough and tumble, less cultured and rely more on brute force than Carmen, but they're also genuinely good, friendly people with a strong moral code. Their backstory episode reveals that they ''did'' have to resort to borrowing money from a loan shark in order to build a race car and follow their dreams, and an ill-timed crash caused them to resort to theft from a mob-owned donut shop.

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* {{Wrestling/Carmella}} pitched her character as essentially being a Mafia girl, fulfilling this trope. But as Sasha was being billed from Boston, Carmella's character became a New Yorker instead.

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* {{Wrestling/Carmella}} Wrestling/{{Carmella}} pitched her character as essentially being a Mafia girl, fulfilling this trope. But as Sasha was being billed from Boston, Carmella's character became a New Yorker instead.



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* Vamp from the Literature/WhateleyUniverse is from Charlestown but fits the stereotype.

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* Vamp from the Literature/WhateleyUniverse ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' is from Charlestown but fits the stereotype.
* Wiki/TVTropes: "Southies" has become something of an inside joke here, due to the YKTTW for "Southies" having had no text other than "Administrivia/SelfExplanatory". That led to the page "Administrivia/NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.



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* Diane's family in WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman sound and act like stereotypical Southies despite her parents being Vietnamese immigrants.
* ''TheSimpsons'' episode "The Town" inverts and zigzags it with Bostonians shown as well-educated, civic-minded sports hooligans.

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* Diane's family in WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman ''WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman'' sound and act like stereotypical Southies despite her parents being Vietnamese immigrants.
* ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "The Town" inverts and zigzags it with Bostonians shown as well-educated, civic-minded sports hooligans.
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* "Southies" has become something of an inside joke here, due to the YKTTW for "Southies" having had no text other than "Administrivia/SelfExplanatory". That led to the page "Administrivia/NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[Film/TheDeparted Your ****in' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. Three-decker men at best.]]"]]
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* In ''Film/GoodWillHunting'', the title character and his friends are Southies, as well as the psychologist that the he has to see.

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* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve. He has a [[BrooklynRage Brooklyn accent]] as part of StylisticSuck, though. These accents get exchanged fairly often, possibly because they're both poor neighborhoods with stereotypes set in the 1800s by Irish immigrants. Example: the ''[[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Dark Knight]]'' trilogy has a bunch of cops with on-par-with-reality, unexaggerated, Boston accents.

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* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve. He has a [[BrooklynRage Brooklyn accent]] as part of StylisticSuck, though. These accents get exchanged fairly often, possibly because they're both poor neighborhoods with stereotypes set in the 1800s by Irish immigrants. Example: the ''[[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Dark Knight]]'' trilogy ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' has a bunch of cops with on-par-with-reality, unexaggerated, Boston accents.
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* ''Series/StElsewhere'': Dr. Donald Westphall is a Southie.

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* ''Series/StElsewhere'': Dr. Donald Westphall is a Southie.and Luther Hawkins are Southies, as are many of the patients of St. Eligius.

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* Wrestling/SashaBanks plays with the trope. She's a California native but spent her teen years in Boston, and was billed from there. The character that brought her success was 'The Boss' - a ghetto girl who wore lots of rhinestones and tacky bling (crowds used to chant "ratchet" at her too).
* {{Wrestling/Carmella}} pitched her character as essentially being a Mafia girl, fulfilling this trope. But as Sasha was being billed from Boston, Carmella's character became a New Yorker instead.
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* The ''Literature/KenzieAndGennaroSeries'' a group of Neo-Noir novels by Creator/DennisLehane, (''Literature/GoneBabyGone'', mentioned above in the film section, is one of these novels) take place mostly in and around Southie. Notably, the nature of the neighborhood gradually changes through the life of main character Patrick Kenzie, who experiences it as violent and crime ridden when he is a young, but by the time of the last book as Kenzie is approaching middle age, he reflects on the area's slow gentrification and thinks not all of that gentrification is bad.
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* "Southies" has become something of an inside joke here, due to the YKTTW for "Southies" having had no text other than "SelfExplanatory". That led to the page "Administrivia/NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.

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* "Southies" has become something of an inside joke here, due to the YKTTW for "Southies" having had no text other than "SelfExplanatory"."Administrivia/SelfExplanatory". That led to the page "Administrivia/NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.
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In fiction, this mostly [[{{Oireland}} Irish]]-[[TheIrishDiaspora American]] neighborhood and its [[HollywoodNewEngland still-distinct accent]] continue to be associated with [[LowerClassLout working-class thugs]], [[TheIrishMob organized crime]] and dollar donations to "freedom fighters" whose bombs happen out of sight and out of mind on the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles other side of the Atlantic]]. Providence, Rhode Island is usually mentioned to suggest scope. It might be the base of a rival syndicate. As a general rule, they're put in opposition in fiction as Providence has a strong Italian-American background, so [[SarcasmMode obviously it's a hotbed for]] TheMafia.

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In fiction, this mostly [[{{Oireland}} Irish]]-[[TheIrishDiaspora Irish]]-[[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora American]] neighborhood and its [[HollywoodNewEngland still-distinct accent]] continue to be associated with [[LowerClassLout working-class thugs]], [[TheIrishMob organized crime]] and dollar donations to "freedom fighters" whose bombs happen out of sight and out of mind on the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles other side of the Atlantic]]. Providence, Rhode Island is usually mentioned to suggest scope. It might be the base of a rival syndicate. As a general rule, they're put in opposition in fiction as Providence has a strong Italian-American background, so [[SarcasmMode obviously it's a hotbed for]] TheMafia.
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That said, we must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere north of Hartford and/or or east of the Green Mountains]]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].) Also, if you see a lawn chair in a parking space, ''don't touch it''.

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That said, we must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere north of Hartford and/or or east of the Green Mountains]]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].) Also, if you see a lawn chair in a parking space, ''don't touch it''.
it''. As for the Irish bars, the shittier ones are also the more authentic ones; if it has a name like "Finnegan's" and has a dimly-lit entrance sign with a coffee can overflowing with cigarette butts out front and a bunch of patrons named Patrick, Sean, or Shane, you're a). looking at a very authentic Southie Irish bar and b). not getting very far unless you're Irish yourself.



Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it.[[note]] Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compare it to [[{{Gayborhood}} the South End]].[[/note]] The short version is "if you're in Boston and surrounded by working-class Irish, you're in Southie."

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Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? suburb?[[note]]though it is culturally very much like Southie either way; "I'm from fahkin Dot, bro" is a stereotype for a good reason.[[/note]] What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it.[[note]] Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compare it to [[{{Gayborhood}} the South End]].[[/note]] The short version is "if you're in Boston and surrounded by working-class Irish, you're in Southie."
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* Vamp from the WhateleyUniverse is from Charlestown but fits the stereotype.

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* Vamp from the WhateleyUniverse Literature/WhateleyUniverse is from Charlestown but fits the stereotype.
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In fiction, this mostly [[{{Oireland}} Irish]]-[[TheIrishDiaspora American]] neighborhood and its [[HollywoodNewEngland still-distinct accent]] continue to be associated with [[LowerClassLout working-class thugs]], [[TheIrishMob organized crime]] and dollar donations to "freedom fighters" whose bombs happen out of sight and out of mind on the [[TheTroubles other side of the Atlantic]]. Providence, Rhode Island is usually mentioned to suggest scope. It might be the base of a rival syndicate. As a general rule, they're put in opposition in fiction as Providence has a strong Italian-American background, so [[SarcasmMode obviously it's a hotbed for]] TheMafia.

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In fiction, this mostly [[{{Oireland}} Irish]]-[[TheIrishDiaspora American]] neighborhood and its [[HollywoodNewEngland still-distinct accent]] continue to be associated with [[LowerClassLout working-class thugs]], [[TheIrishMob organized crime]] and dollar donations to "freedom fighters" whose bombs happen out of sight and out of mind on the [[TheTroubles [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles other side of the Atlantic]]. Providence, Rhode Island is usually mentioned to suggest scope. It might be the base of a rival syndicate. As a general rule, they're put in opposition in fiction as Providence has a strong Italian-American background, so [[SarcasmMode obviously it's a hotbed for]] TheMafia.



That said, we must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere north of Hartford and/or or east of the Green Mountains]]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].) Also, if you see a lawn chair in a parking space, ''don't touch it''.

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That said, we must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere north of Hartford and/or or east of the Green Mountains]]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[TheTroubles [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].) Also, if you see a lawn chair in a parking space, ''don't touch it''.
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Compare HollywoodNewEngland, TheIrishMob (for the real crooks), BrooklynRage, ViolentGlaswegian.

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Compare HollywoodNewEngland, TheIrishMob (for the real crooks), BrooklynRage, ViolentGlaswegian.ViolentGlaswegian, and FightingIrish.
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* ''TheSimpsons'' episode "The Town" inverts and zigzags it with Bostonians shown as well-educated, civic-minded sports hooligans.


* Speaking of the Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock, we probably ought to mention their infamous BandToon here, but... [[TheyJustDidntCare its writers just didn't care.]]

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* ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'': One of Echo's imprinted personalities, Jordan (a backup singer and secret bodyguard for a pop star) claims to be a Southie as well - and is also played by Dushku.

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* ''Film/TheForbiddenKingdom.'' Yes, you'd be excused if you thought this was [[NeverTrustATrailer an action fantasy set entirely in ancient China]] [[JustHereForGodzilla starring Jet Li and Jackie Chan]]. Well, there is also a [[TheScrappy Modern-Day Young, White, Male]] [[CulturalTranslation American Character]] who was evidently only in the story to get the plot moving and for the audience (who would be surely be [[ViewersAreMorons confused and enraged]] by a story set in ancient China with an all-Asian cast) to relate to. Now, of all the arbitrary American cities this character could have hailed from...

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* ''Film/TheForbiddenKingdom.'' Yes, you'd be excused if you thought this was [[NeverTrustATrailer an action fantasy set entirely in ancient China]] [[JustHereForGodzilla starring Jet Li and Jackie Chan]]. Well, there is also a [[TheScrappy Modern-Day Young, White, Male]] [[CulturalTranslation American Character]] who was evidently only in the story to get the plot moving and for the audience (who would be surely be [[ViewersAreMorons confused and enraged]] enraged by a story set in ancient China with an all-Asian cast) to relate to. Now, of all the arbitrary American cities this character could have hailed from...
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* Faith Lehane from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' is a Southie. But the actress playing her, Eliza Dushku, was raised in Watertown, a city near Boston, and isn't.
* One of Echo's imprinted personalities in ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'', Jordan (a backup singer and secret bodyguard for a pop star) claims to be a Southie as well - and is also played by Dushku.

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': Faith Lehane from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Lehane is a Southie. But the actress playing her, Eliza Dushku, was raised in Watertown, a city near Boston, and isn't.
* * ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'': One of Echo's imprinted personalities in ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'', personalities, Jordan (a backup singer and secret bodyguard for a pop star) claims to be a Southie as well - and is also played by Dushku.



* Dr. Donald Westphall of ''Series/StElsewhere'' is a Southie.

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** Affleck's next film, ''Film/TheTown'', also features much of the same Southie elements as ''Gone Baby Gone'' did.

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** One of Echo's imprinted personalities in ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'', Jordan (a backup singer and secret bodyguard for a pop star) claims to be a Southie as well - and is also played by Dushku.

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** * One of Echo's imprinted personalities in ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'', Jordan (a backup singer and secret bodyguard for a pop star) claims to be a Southie as well - and is also played by Dushku.



* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve. He has a [[BrooklynRage Brooklyn accent]] as part of StylisticSuck, though.
** These accents get exchanged fairly often, possibly because they're both poor neighborhoods with stereotypes set in the 1800s by Irish immigrants. Example: the ''[[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Dark Knight]]'' trilogy has a bunch of cops with on-par-with-reality, unexaggerated, Boston accents.

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* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve. He has a [[BrooklynRage Brooklyn accent]] as part of StylisticSuck, though.
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* In ''Film/GoodWillHunting'', the title character and his friends are Southies.

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* Diane's family in WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman sound and act like stereotypical Southies despite her parents being Vietnamese immigrants.
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* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, who was actually raised in Cambridge, MA, and actively tried to get people who really lived there to contribute with the film, and DennisLehane, the author of the book it's based on, grew up in Dorchester.

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* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, who was actually raised in Cambridge, MA, and actively tried to get people who really lived there to contribute with the film, and DennisLehane, Creator/DennisLehane, the author of the book it's based on, grew up in Dorchester.

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