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17th Sep '17 2:18:33 PM Gemser
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* ''Film/TheWorldOfKanako'': Akikazu is a violent, alcoholic, abusive ex-cop who beats up and tortures anybody who is in his way and sexually assaults women when he's drunk. However he still is disgusted by some of the worst acts of the other characters.
16th Sep '17 4:47:05 PM fredhot16
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** The First Doctor started out as this. He held some meaningful ideals, but genuinely did not understand or care about other people's feelings, being happy to openly lie to them and play them against each other to follow his own goals, which were mostly just to be able to do whatever he wanted ForScience. He kidnaps people, gets them into trouble for his own amusement, constantly accuses them of trying to steal from him, and at one point he even tries to murder a person for no reason beyond paranoia, while at the same time using a paper-thin veneer of doddery-old-man in order to make himself look weak and innocent whenever he has to. His granddaughter is something of a MoralityPet but even though she loves him she is obviously terrified of him, often more than the monsters, and weeps openly in fear of repercussions whenever she tries to persuade him to do something for her. He gets some CharacterDevelopment, though -- Ian and Barbara manage to drum some basic manners into him, and although he starts out with NoSocialSkills and occasionally slips back into treating his companions like dirt (although apologizing for it afterwards), by "The Dalek Invasion of Earth" he's declared himself a defender of the weak and by "The Time Meddler" he chooses to punish someone in a devastating but pointedly non-fatal way.

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** The First Doctor started out as this. He held some meaningful ideals, ideals but genuinely did not understand or care about other people's feelings, being happy to openly lie to them and play them against each other to follow his own goals, which were mostly just to be able to do whatever he wanted ForScience. He kidnaps people, gets them into trouble for his own amusement, constantly accuses them of trying to steal from him, and at one point he even tries to murder a person for no reason beyond paranoia, while at the same time using a paper-thin veneer of doddery-old-man in order to make himself look weak and innocent whenever he has to. His granddaughter is something of a MoralityPet but even though she loves him she is obviously terrified of him, often more than the monsters, and weeps openly in fear of repercussions whenever she tries to persuade him to do something for her. He gets some CharacterDevelopment, though -- Ian and Barbara manage to drum some basic manners into him, and although he starts out with NoSocialSkills and occasionally slips back into treating his companions like dirt (although apologizing for it afterwards), by "The Dalek Invasion of Earth" he's declared himself a defender of the weak and by "The Time Meddler" he chooses to punish someone in a devastating but pointedly non-fatal way.



** The later regenerations of the Doctor constantly struggle against becoming this. During "The Waters of Mars" the Tenth Doctor ends up going so completely [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope off the deep end]], he briefly styles himself as "The Time Lord Victorious" and is willing to break time itself in half to save people, even if they don't ''want'' him to.

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** The later regenerations of the Doctor constantly struggle against becoming this. During "The Waters of Mars" Mars", the Tenth Doctor ends up going so completely [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope off the deep end]], he briefly styles himself as "The Time Lord Victorious" and is willing to break time itself in half to save people, even if they don't ''want'' him to.



** Pretending to help the Hero of Bowerstone but instead trying to [[spoiler: sacrifice them to maintain his youth]]
** [[spoiler:Betraying the Hero again by deciding to collect the bounty Lucien has put on him]]

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** Pretending to help the Hero of Bowerstone but instead trying to [[spoiler: sacrifice them to maintain his youth]]
youth]].
** [[spoiler:Betraying the Hero again by deciding to collect the bounty Lucien has put on him]]him]].



** You can choose to play as one in the games. You get around to saving the world, but you have the option to kill and steal as much as you please. You can wipe out entire cities if you want.

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** You can choose to play as one in the games. You get around to saving the world, but you have the option to kill and steal as much as you please. You can wipe please, even wiping out entire cities ''entire cities'' if you want.



** Depending on how the player chooses, Shepard can also be a sociopath hero, wielding InsaneTrollLogic and shooting people on a whim. That's what gives us the YouTube videos [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy-eRfupYbA&feature=kp Commander Shepard is Such a Jerk]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4 Commander Shepard is Still a Jerk.]] If you want to believe Shepard is a megalomaniacal paranoid schizophrenic who happens to have a fixation on a threat that, coincidentally, happens to exist, go right ahead.

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** Depending on how the player chooses, Shepard can also be a sociopath hero, this trope too, wielding InsaneTrollLogic and shooting people on a whim. That's what gives us the YouTube videos [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy-eRfupYbA&feature=kp Commander Shepard is Such a Jerk]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4 Commander Shepard is Still a Jerk.]] If you want to believe Shepard is a megalomaniacal paranoid schizophrenic who happens to have a fixation on a threat that, coincidentally, happens to exist, go right ahead.



* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' we have Belkar, an AxeCrazy KnifeNut [[{[Hobbit}} halfling]]. WordOfGod makes it VERY clear that Belkar is 100% ChaoticEvil. For most of his screen time he fits better into HeroicComedicSociopath, though there have definitely been moments where his impulsive bloodlust causes drama and even setbacks for the rest of the team. For example, during [[LawfulGood Roy]]'s afterlife judgement it's mentioned that Belkar would normally cause Roy a lot of karma demerits if the team weren't so good at directing Belkar's violence toward the villains. After coming to the conclusion that he needs to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html fake character development]], Belkar has become more cooperative with the rest of the team. In other words, he's gone from being a sociopath to... being a slightly higher-functioning sociopath.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' we have Belkar, an AxeCrazy KnifeNut [[{[Hobbit}} halfling]]. WordOfGod makes it VERY clear that Belkar is 100% ChaoticEvil. For most of his screen time he fits better into HeroicComedicSociopath, though there have definitely been moments where his impulsive bloodlust causes drama and even setbacks for the rest of the team. For example, during [[LawfulGood Roy]]'s afterlife judgement judgement, it's mentioned that Belkar would normally cause Roy a lot of karma demerits if the team weren't so good at directing Belkar's violence toward the villains. After coming to the conclusion that he needs to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html fake character development]], Belkar has become more cooperative with the rest of the team. In other words, he's gone from being a sociopath to... being a slightly higher-functioning sociopath.
16th Sep '17 10:52:19 AM Eddy1215
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' we have Belkar, an AxeCrazy KnifeNut halfling. WordOfGod makes it VERY clear that Belkar is 100% ChaoticEvil. For most of his screen time he fits better into HeroicComedicSociopath, though there have definitely been moments where his impulsive bloodlust causes drama and even setbacks for the rest of the team. For example, during [[LawfulGood Roy]]'s afterlife judgement it's mentioned that Belkar would normally cause Roy a lot of karma demerits if the team weren't so good at directing Belkar's violence toward the villains. After coming to the conclusion that he needs to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html fake character development]], Belkar has become more cooperative with the rest of the team. In other words, he's gone from being a sociopath to... being a slightly higher-functioning sociopath.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' we have Belkar, an AxeCrazy KnifeNut halfling.[[{[Hobbit}} halfling]]. WordOfGod makes it VERY clear that Belkar is 100% ChaoticEvil. For most of his screen time he fits better into HeroicComedicSociopath, though there have definitely been moments where his impulsive bloodlust causes drama and even setbacks for the rest of the team. For example, during [[LawfulGood Roy]]'s afterlife judgement it's mentioned that Belkar would normally cause Roy a lot of karma demerits if the team weren't so good at directing Belkar's violence toward the villains. After coming to the conclusion that he needs to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html fake character development]], Belkar has become more cooperative with the rest of the team. In other words, he's gone from being a sociopath to... being a slightly higher-functioning sociopath.
26th Aug '17 11:49:00 PM YuriFan17
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* The lead character of ''Anime/MDGeist'' is somewhere between this and VillainProtagonist. While obviously he's an evil, evil man, he's also the psychotic result of a SuperSoldier program by an offworld human faction, meaning that A: he's programmed to [[BloodKnight only care about fighting and seek to always have battles to fight]], and B: he's still loyal to his creators, who have decided it's best to just scrub all life from the colony world and repopulate it with fresh colonists.
* Alucard from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' (more so in the manga/OVA). He has no regard for human life (though [[spoiler: deep down he admires humanity]]), will kill at any opportunity [[KidWithTheLeash if allowed]], and [[BloodKnight enjoys the thrill of war]]. He does at least attempt to limit his body count to those who actually are a part of the battle he's in.

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* The lead character Karma of ''Anime/MDGeist'' is somewhere between this ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom''. He's a kid who clearly has an inclination towards violence and VillainProtagonist. While obviously he's an evil, evil man, mischief, and appears to be nearly AxCrazy with the way he gets shits and giggles out of torturing and making others miserable through cruel and unusual methods. However, he's also the psychotic result of a SuperSoldier program by an offworld human faction, meaning that A: he's programmed distinctly shown to [[BloodKnight be a BullyHunter, only care about fighting and seek to always have battles to fight]], and B: he's still loyal to his creators, who have decided it's best to just scrub all life from the colony world and repopulate it with fresh colonists.
* Alucard from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' (more so in the manga/OVA). He has no regard for human life (though [[spoiler: deep down he admires humanity]]), will kill at any opportunity [[KidWithTheLeash if allowed]], and [[BloodKnight enjoys the thrill of war]]. He does at least attempt to limit his body count to
really ever targeting those who actually are harass others, or threaten either himself or his classmates.
* Guts in his days as the vengeance-driven Black Swordsman from ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' was very much this trope. Even now, Guts is still
a part sociopath. The only reason he saves people is because one of his companions asks him to. Even before that, Guts ''clearly'' enjoyed his job as a mercenary, relishing in crushing the skulls of his enemies and striking fear into their hearts.
* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' has Roberta, who was once an amoral killing machine but has now dedicated herself to the Lovelace family [[spoiler:and goes berserk when her master was assassinated]]. And Revy laughs and sings when she's gunning people down, and nine times out of ten her first recourse is to put a 9mm round in any given problem, but she's one
of the battle he's in.protagonists and is shown to have [[EvenEvilHasStandards a few standards]].



* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' has Roberta, who was once an amoral killing machine but has now dedicated herself to the Lovelace family [[spoiler:and goes berserk when her master was assassinated]]. And Revy laughs and sings when she's gunning people down, and nine times out of ten her first recourse is to put a 9mm round in any given problem, but she's one of the protagonists and is shown to have [[EvenEvilHasStandards a few standards]].
* Mikazuki of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a ChildSoldier who has no qualm on killing, he does not have the concept of mercy when it comes to [[DoubleTap disposing enemies]] [[KilledMidSentence when they're still speaking]], often [[TheNicknamer gives vulgar nicknames to enemies]] who managed to survive his encounters. And he remains [[TheStoic in an unnervingly calm mood]] all the time.
* Guts in his days as the vengeance-driven Black Swordsman from ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' was very much this trope. Even now, Guts is still a sociopath. The only reason he saves people is because one of his companions asks him to. Even before that, Guts ''clearly'' enjoyed his job as a mercenary, relishing in crushing the skulls of his enemies and striking fear into their hearts.



* Alucard from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' (more so in the manga/OVA). He has no regard for human life (though [[spoiler: deep down he admires humanity]]), will kill at any opportunity [[KidWithTheLeash if allowed]], and [[BloodKnight enjoys the thrill of war]]. He does at least attempt to limit his body count to those who actually are a part of the battle he's in.
* The lead character of ''Anime/MDGeist'' is somewhere between this and VillainProtagonist. While obviously he's an evil, evil man, he's also the psychotic result of a SuperSoldier program by an offworld human faction, meaning that A: he's programmed to [[BloodKnight only care about fighting and seek to always have battles to fight]], and B: he's still loyal to his creators, who have decided it's best to just scrub all life from the colony world and repopulate it with fresh colonists.
* Mikazuki of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a ChildSoldier who has no qualm on killing, he does not have the concept of mercy when it comes to [[DoubleTap disposing enemies]] [[KilledMidSentence when they're still speaking]], often [[TheNicknamer gives vulgar nicknames to enemies]] who managed to survive his encounters. And he remains [[TheStoic in an unnervingly calm mood]] all the time.
* Wolfgang Grimmer of ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' is a rare sympathetic example. In spite of his lack of emotion, he is a pretty nice guy who actually performs heroic deeds because he wants to. His "Magnificent Steiner" persona is the more traditional version of this, as it causes him to kill his enemies in a more brutal fashion.



* Karma of ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom''. He's a kid who clearly has an inclination towards violence and mischief, and appears to be nearly AxCrazy with the way he gets shits and giggles out of torturing and making others miserable through cruel and unusual methods. However, he's also distinctly shown to be a BullyHunter, only really ever targeting those who harass others, or threaten either himself or his classmates.
* Wolfgang Grimmer of ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' is a rare sympathetic example. In spite of his lack of emotion, he is a pretty nice guy who actually performs heroic deeds because he wants to. His "Magnificent Steiner" persona is the more traditional version of this, as it causes him to kill his enemies in a more brutal fashion.
26th Aug '17 6:44:27 PM allfictions
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* Myth/GreekMythology heroes. ALL of them. While some do have stronger moral compasses than others, Myth/GreekMythology doesn't ponder with such pesky concepts as "right" and "wrong" or "good" and "evil". The only concept of "sin" which the Myth/GreekMythology knows is ''hubris'', delusion of being as good as [[JerkassGod the deities]] -- which means, of course, that [[OmniscientMoralityLicense if you are a deity yourself, you are categorically incapable of sinning]].

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* Myth/GreekMythology heroes. ALL of them. While some do have stronger moral compasses than others, most notably Perseus, Myth/GreekMythology doesn't ponder with such pesky concepts as "right" and "wrong" or "good" and "evil". The only concept of "sin" which the Myth/GreekMythology knows is ''hubris'', delusion of being as good as [[JerkassGod the deities]] -- which means, of course, that [[OmniscientMoralityLicense if you are a deity yourself, you are categorically incapable of sinning]].
20th Jul '17 9:09:48 AM TheWildWestPyro
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* While the original Vault Hunters of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' toed the line (especially Brick), most of the new Vault Hunters in the sequel qualify big time. Axton is a GloryHound who committed treason against his government and purposefully puts his allies in danger just so he can look like a badass, Salvador h [[AxCrazy has too much fun]] slaughtering his way across the Planet, and [=Zer0=] is a BloodKnight assassin who will kill ''anyone'' if the price and challenge is right. Even Maya and Gaige, easily the most moral of the new Vault Hunters, are more than willing to viciously taunt their enemies, making Maya a Type 2 {{antihero}}ine with hints of Type 3 and Gaige a Type 3.

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* While the original Vault Hunters of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' toed the line (especially Brick), most of the new Vault Hunters in the sequel qualify big time. Axton is a GloryHound who committed treason against his government superiors and purposefully puts his allies in danger just so he can look like a badass, Salvador h [[AxCrazy has way too much fun]] slaughtering his way across the Planet, Pandora, and [=Zer0=] is a BloodKnight assassin who will kill ''anyone'' if the price and challenge is right. Even Maya and Gaige, easily the most moral of the new Vault Hunters, are more than willing to viciously taunt their enemies, making Maya a Type 2 {{antihero}}ine with hints of Type 3 and Gaige a Type 3.



** And most side characters count too. Tiny Tina is plainly stated to be a psychopath, Scooter murders his mothers boyfriends, Moxxi runs underground fighting rings of lethal variety for shit and giggles, and so on.

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** And most side characters count too. Tiny Tina is plainly stated to be a psychopath, Scooter murders all his mothers mother's potential boyfriends, Moxxi runs underground fighting rings of the lethal variety for shit shits and giggles, and so on.
5th Jul '17 8:32:45 PM Loekman3
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* Kratos from ''VideoGame/GodOfWar''. In some games he's a somewhat-tragic ByronicHero, in others he's just a rampaging deicide machine, but no matter what he's on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge and anyone in his way is going to be splattered on the walls, [[{{Gotterdammerung}} regardless of consequences]].

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* Kratos from ''VideoGame/GodOfWar''.''VideoGame/GodOfWarSeries''. In some games he's a somewhat-tragic ByronicHero, in others he's just a rampaging deicide machine, but no matter what he's on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge and anyone in his way is going to be splattered on the walls, [[{{Gotterdammerung}} regardless of consequences]].
13th Jun '17 7:31:10 PM Az_Tech341
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->'''Watson:''' There are lives at stake, Sherlock... actual, human lives -- ju-just so I know, do you care about that at all?\\
'''Sherlock:''' Will caring about them help save them?\\
'''Watson:''' Nope.\\
'''Sherlock:''' Then I'll continue not to make that mistake.\\
'''Watson:''' And you find that easy, do you?\\
'''Sherlock:''' Yes, very.

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->'''Watson:''' ->'''Watson''': There are lives at stake, Sherlock... actual, human lives -- ju-just so I know, do you care about that at all?\\
'''Sherlock:''' '''Sherlock''': Will caring about them help save them?\\
'''Watson:''' '''Watson''': Nope.\\
'''Sherlock:''' '''Sherlock''': Then I'll continue not to make that mistake.\\
'''Watson:''' '''Watson''': And you find that easy, do you?\\
'''Sherlock:''' '''Sherlock''': Yes, very.
13th Jun '17 7:30:04 PM Az_Tech341
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They may solve their problems in much the [[NotSoDifferent same way as a villain would]] -- ruthlessly manipulating and killing their way to their goal. They may routinely torture, murder, and/or commit evil acts nearly as bad as the BigBad. [[TheUnfettered They'll do whatever it takes to win]]. The people they fight beside are shocked with their behavior, but try to tell themselves, "[[GladHesOnOurSide At least they're on our side]]." Even that may not be true in the end, where it may be suggested that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters this "hero" has become as evil as any of the monsters he vanquished]].

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They may solve their problems in much the [[NotSoDifferent same way as that a villain would]] -- ruthlessly manipulating and killing their way to their goal. They may routinely torture, murder, and/or commit evil acts nearly as bad as the BigBad. [[TheUnfettered They'll do whatever it takes to win]]. The people they fight beside are shocked with their behavior, but try to tell themselves, "[[GladHesOnOurSide At least they're on our side]]." Even that may not be true in the end, where it may be suggested that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters this "hero" has become as evil as any of the monsters he vanquished]].



Compare HeroicComedicSociopath, for when this kind of behavior is PlayedForLaughs and TokenEvilTeammate, which he will be if a team player. He also tends to stay in NominalHero or VillainProtagonist territory. If a character is treated as an IdealHero despite being this then this has been combined with a DesignatedHero.

This trope overlaps the SociopathicSoldier, especially if the settings is war or a chaotic milieu. See also MoralSociopathy.

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Compare HeroicComedicSociopath, for when this kind of behavior is PlayedForLaughs PlayedForLaughs, and TokenEvilTeammate, which he will be if a team player. He also tends to stay in NominalHero or VillainProtagonist territory. If a character is treated as an IdealHero despite being this this, then this has been combined with a DesignatedHero.

This trope overlaps the SociopathicSoldier, especially if the settings setting is war or a chaotic milieu. See also MoralSociopathy.
29th May '17 3:10:33 PM MasterN
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* ''VideoGame/{{OFF}}'': You may think that the Batter is doing the [=NPCs=] a favor by ridding the zones of the spectres they fear, but as the game progresses it becomes ever more clear just how little he cares for their existence.

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* ''VideoGame/{{OFF}}'': You may think that [[spoiler: the Batter is doing the [=NPCs=] a favor by ridding the zones of the spectres they fear, but as the game progresses it becomes ever more clear just how little he cares for their existence.]]
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