History Main / ShiksaGoddess

9th Apr '18 10:17:17 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TalesFromTheCrypt: Bordello of Blood'', is an interesting example of this and MatzoFever in the romance between Katherine Verdoux and Rafe Guttman. For such a gleefully trashy film, it's got a very interesting subtext about interconfessional romance.

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* ''Series/TalesFromTheCrypt: Bordello of Blood'', ''Film/BordelloOfBlood'' is an interesting example of this and MatzoFever in the romance between Katherine Verdoux and Rafe Guttman. For such a gleefully trashy film, it's got a very interesting subtext about interconfessional romance.
18th Mar '18 8:29:55 PM StrixObscuro
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* In ''ComicBook/TheCrew'', Kasper Cole is dating a black woman who frequently butts heads with his Jewish mother.
18th Mar '18 8:12:59 PM cheerioincident
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The word "shiksa" comes from the Hebrew word for "abomination," as these gentile temptresses were feared to be stealing away all the {{Nice Jewish Boy}}s. Like most cultures, Jewish society traditionally looks down on members marrying outsiders, seeing it as a rejection of their heritage and community. Mixed couples won't necessarily perpetuate the traditions and beliefs that bind Jewish society together. In fact, children to a non-Jewish mother aren't Jewish themselves by religious law. It should be noted that "shiksa" is not a nice term. If one character is calling some girl a shiksa, you can bet they're not particularly fond of her.

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The word "shiksa" comes from the Hebrew word for "abomination," as these gentile temptresses were feared to be stealing away all the {{Nice Jewish Boy}}s. Like most cultures, Jewish society traditionally looks down on members marrying outsiders, seeing it as a rejection of their heritage and community. Mixed couples won't necessarily perpetuate the traditions and beliefs that bind Jewish society together. In fact, children to a non-Jewish mother aren't Jewish themselves by religious law. It should be noted that "shiksa" is not It's a nice term. really insulting term, on par with "slut" or "whore." If one character is calling some girl a woman a shiksa, you can bet they're not particularly fond of her.
17th Mar '18 6:48:23 AM cheerioincident
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The word "shiksa" comes from the Hebrew word for "abomination," as these gentile temptresses were feared to be stealing away all the {{Nice Jewish Boy}}s. Like most cultures, Jewish society traditionally looks down on members marrying outsiders, seeing it as a rejection of their heritage and community. Mixed couples won't necessarily perpetuate the traditions and beliefs that bind Jewish society together. In fact, children to a non-Jewish mother aren't Jewish themselves by religious law.

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The word "shiksa" comes from the Hebrew word for "abomination," as these gentile temptresses were feared to be stealing away all the {{Nice Jewish Boy}}s. Like most cultures, Jewish society traditionally looks down on members marrying outsiders, seeing it as a rejection of their heritage and community. Mixed couples won't necessarily perpetuate the traditions and beliefs that bind Jewish society together. In fact, children to a non-Jewish mother aren't Jewish themselves by religious law.
law. It should be noted that "shiksa" is not a nice term. If one character is calling some girl a shiksa, you can bet they're not particularly fond of her.
11th Mar '18 3:23:23 PM MrInitialMan
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** Ruth's marriage to Boaz is a {{Subversion}}, though, as it's made clear she was a Jewish convert before she married him.
9th Mar '18 6:58:53 PM karstovich2
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** Inverted for two relationships, with Gentile men and Jewish women: Don Draper had an affair with the Jewish department-store owner Rachel Menken in Season 1, and a few years later ultra-WASP Roger Sterling divorced his wife to marry his Jewish secretary Jane Siegel.

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** Inverted for two relationships, with Gentile men and Jewish women: Don Draper had an affair with the Jewish department-store owner Rachel Menken in Season 1, and a few years later ultra-WASP Roger Sterling divorced his wife to marry his Jewish secretary Jane Siegel. These fit since both Don and Roger are very much un-Jewish in appearance and very much conventionally attractive (with the caveat that Roger is a SilverFox), to say nothing of both being wealthy and powerful businessmen.
9th Mar '18 6:56:57 PM karstovich2
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* ''Series/MadMen'' featured some relationships involving Gentiles and Jewish people. The WASP-y Don and Roger to the Jewish Rachel and Jane for one. Blonde, blue-eyed, WASP-y Betty lampshades the trope when she talks about a NiceJewishBoy from high school and that in the following year, all the Jewish girls dyed their hair blonde. Then for a while, the RaisedCatholic, Irish and Norwegian American Peggy (with blue eyes) dated the culturally Jewish Abe. Hell, her colleague's AlterKocker father had a [[DirtyOldMan very interesting reaction when he saw her]].

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* ''Series/MadMen'' featured some relationships involving Gentiles and Jewish people.
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The WASP-y Don and Roger to the Jewish Rachel and Jane for one. Blonde, blue-eyed, WASP-y Betty lampshades the trope when she talks about a NiceJewishBoy from high school and that in the following year, all the Jewish girls dyed their hair blonde. Then for a while, the straightest example is Peggy Olson. RaisedCatholic, blue-eyed, and of Irish Catholic and Norwegian American Peggy (with blue eyes) dated ancestry, she dates the culturally Jewish Abe. Hell, her colleague's culturally-Jewish Abe Drexler from Season 4 through Season 7A. Also, in a one-off moment, Peggy's colleague Michael Ginsburg's AlterKocker father had a [[DirtyOldMan very interesting reaction when he saw her]].her]].
** Briefly discussed when blue-eyed, WASP-y Betty Draper talks about a NiceJewishBoy from high school she dated. Apparently, the following year, all the Jewish girls dyed their hair blonde.
** Inverted for two relationships, with Gentile men and Jewish women: Don Draper had an affair with the Jewish department-store owner Rachel Menken in Season 1, and a few years later ultra-WASP Roger Sterling divorced his wife to marry his Jewish secretary Jane Siegel.
13th Feb '18 1:33:53 PM Prfnoff
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* This was one of the principal tropes in ''Abie's Irish Rose''. Abie's father wouldn't stand for any NiceJewishBoy marrying a non-Jewish girl, so Abie has to trick his father into believing that Rose Mary Murphy is actually Rosie Murpheski. The father doesn't find out the ruse until the Jewish wedding ceremony is well underway. The play was a huge success in the 1920s, despite the fact that the critics universally agreed that it was ''absolutely terrible''.

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* This was one of the principal tropes in ''Abie's Irish Rose''. Abie's father wouldn't stand for any NiceJewishBoy marrying a non-Jewish girl, so Abie has to trick his father into believing that Rose Mary Murphy is actually Rosie Murpheski. The father doesn't find out the ruse until the Jewish wedding ceremony is well underway. The play was a huge success in the 1920s, despite the fact that the critics universally agreed that it was ''absolutely terrible''.
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26th Jan '18 1:21:03 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/DowntonAbbey''[='=]s Lady Rose becomes a near ''perfect'' example (blonde, blue-blooded and British)[[note]]Daughter of a Scottish marquess, to be exact[[/note]] when she hooks up with the Jewish Atticus Aldridge in Series 5.
** Hell, the Countess Cora Crawley has an Episcopalian Mother and a late Jewish Father. She tells off a guest at her niece's wedding for implying that it must be "embarrassing" for a girl from the family to marry a Jewish man.
* ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'': Elaine's "Shiksappeal" attracts three Jewish men in one episode; it starts with a boy who immediately prior became a man by Jewish tradition, then that boy's father, ''and then'' the rabbi she spoke to regarding the previous two. [[note]] Originally she was written as Jewish and that [[Creator/JuliaLouisDreyfus Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] is also Jewish. Indeed she's a member of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Dreyfus one of the most notable Jewish families in France]], and she's distantly related to one of the most famous French Jews in history, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Dreyfus Alfred Dreyfus]]). [[/note]]
** Even Jerry's attracted to her in this episode; after his girlfriend makes him get more in touch with his feelings, he actually proposes to Elaine.

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* ''Series/DowntonAbbey''[='=]s ''Series/DowntonAbbey''
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Lady Rose becomes a near ''perfect'' example (blonde, blue-blooded and British)[[note]]Daughter of a Scottish marquess, to be exact[[/note]] when she hooks up with the Jewish Atticus Aldridge in Series 5.
** Hell, the The Countess Cora Crawley has an Episcopalian Mother and a late Jewish Father. She tells off a guest at her niece's wedding for implying that it must be "embarrassing" for a girl from the family to marry a Jewish man.
* ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'': Elaine's "Shiksappeal" attracts three Jewish men in one episode; it starts with a boy who immediately prior became a man by Jewish tradition, then that boy's father, ''and then'' the rabbi she spoke to regarding the previous two. [[note]] Originally she was written as Jewish and that [[Creator/JuliaLouisDreyfus Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] is also Jewish. Indeed she's a member of related to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Dreyfus one of the most notable Jewish families in France]], and she's distantly related to one of the most famous French Jews in history, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Dreyfus Alfred Dreyfus]]). [[/note]]
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though not Jewish herself.[[/note]] Even Jerry's attracted to her in this episode; after his girlfriend makes him get more in touch with his feelings, he actually proposes to Elaine.


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* ''Series/TheMarvelousMrsMaisel'':
** Midge's husband Joel leaves her for his ditzy "Methodist" secretary, which she finds particularly insulting. Joel's own parents are politely but staunchly against the pairing.
** Midge's brother married a blond Gentile woman who promptly converted and is trying ''way'' too hard to be Jewish enough for her husband.
6th Dec '17 2:21:57 PM wuggles
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* ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'': Elaine's "Shiksappeal" attracts three Jewish men (aside from Jerry) in one episode; it starts with a boy who immediately prior became a man by Jewish tradition, then that boy's father, ''and then'' the rabbi she spoke to regarding the previous two. [[note]] Originally she was written as Jewish and that [[Creator/JuliaLouisDreyfus Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] is also Jewish. Indeed she's a member of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Dreyfus one of the most notable Jewish families in France]], and she's distantly related to one of the most famous French Jews in history, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Dreyfus Alfred Dreyfus]]). [[/note]]

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* ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'': Elaine's "Shiksappeal" attracts three Jewish men (aside from Jerry) in one episode; it starts with a boy who immediately prior became a man by Jewish tradition, then that boy's father, ''and then'' the rabbi she spoke to regarding the previous two. [[note]] Originally she was written as Jewish and that [[Creator/JuliaLouisDreyfus Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] is also Jewish. Indeed she's a member of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Dreyfus one of the most notable Jewish families in France]], and she's distantly related to one of the most famous French Jews in history, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Dreyfus Alfred Dreyfus]]). [[/note]] [[/note]]
** Even Jerry's attracted to her in this episode; after his girlfriend makes him get more in touch with his feelings, he actually proposes to Elaine.
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