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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly criticized for the line, as it was totally against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.

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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly criticized for the line, as it was totally against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days and [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain never mentioned it again.again]].
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* Nanny Ogg in the {{Discworld}} series is perfectly aware of this, and prefers to come in second, because if you come in first, people are constantly trying to beat you and you're under pressure to keep coming in first. She likes coming second, because it's the runner-up that people pat on the back and say "It was a good try" and buy drinks for.

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-->''"Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing."''\\
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** Also featured in the story of ''We Love Katamari''. As a child, The King of All Cosmos took second place in a boxing tournament - while walking home, his father pitches the silver trophy in the river to the King's dismay. [[spoiler: Later, the King and his father get in a fight - when the King goes to apologize, he sees his father looking at the silver trophy, and realises that his father must have fished it out of the river.]] This may also explain the King's attitude towards the player if he turns in a small katamari.
-->'''The King Of All Cosmos''': "If We were doing it, it would be much, much bigger."
-->'''The King Of All Cosmos''': "Is this all you want out of life? Mediocrity?"
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* Averted in Mario Kart games where the top 4 places are the only ones that cause your character to do a winning pose and you get points. It's possible to win an entire grand prix by getting second place in everything. First Place is easier though.
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*** ''Especially'' noticeable with Olympic hockey. Gold medalists are still riding their victory high. Bronze medalists are all grins, more so since they had a day or two of rest to process. Silver medalists? Look about 2 seconds away from killing themselves.
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** Happens in a later episode where Bobby takes to growing roses and fails in a flourist competition. He's disappointed and depressed about it, but shocked when he sees Hank (who he actively hid his roses from in the beginning) planting his flowers in the garden. When Bobby asks why he'd do this even if he didn't win, Hank explains, "Well, the Cowboys don't win every game, but I still cheer them on year after year."

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* [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} Seto Kaiba's]] outlook on life.

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* ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' takes this trope to [[{{Deconstruction}} the logical extreme]]. Initially, when Shinji first surpasses Asuka's synch ratio, she's just pissed at him. Later, after being [[CantCatchUp curbstomped three times in a row with Shinji always scoring the kill instead of her]], she becomes extremely distraught, due to her past: she always prided herself on being the best so that she [[IWorkAlone won't need any kind of help from anyone]]. By not being the best anymore and her rival consistently having a stellar performance, she's afraid of being put to the sidelines and as a result, her synch ratio is plummeting; seeing this, she also becomes afraid that if she drops low enough, she will be relieved of her duties which to her would be equal to being publically humiliated in the worst way possible for a human. And the best part in all of this? '''She knows what's wrong but her pride doesn't let her admit it to herself.'''
** Oh, it gets even ''better''. Right after her third defeat (technically second since she couldn't attack Leliel, much less harm it), she's sent into battle again, knowing that this is the last chance the NERV leadership is giving for her: if she screws up this time, it's game over. Not only she doesn't get a single shot off at Arael, '''she undergoes the TropeNamer for MindRape instead'''. And she gets saved by the person she hates the most. Next time she's sent up against Armisael, she can't even get her Eva to move anymore and is withdrawn; as an indirect result, Rei-II is killed by the Angel despite Shinji's intervention ("you didn't send him out for me... am I really that worthless?"). What do NERV does in this situation? Does they try to solve Asuka's psychological problems and cheer her up? [[ThereAreNoTherapists Noooo]], [[WeHaveReserves they send her into early retirement and fetch a replacement instead]].
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* One of the anecdotes on ''ActsOfGord'' deals with a fighting game tournament Gord ran, in which first prize was a set of expensive game controllers and $20, second prize was a can of Coke and an autographed photo of himself and third prize was $20. The author of the website justifies this by saying, "The Gord likes to remind people that second place is just the first loser."
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* Hong Jin-Ho has made it to the finals of many Starcraft tounaments just to lose...
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* Dave Mustaine of Megadeth, for 20 years had been obsessed with the successes of his ex bandmates of Metallica, always making him the second most popular Thrash Metal band. He hardly realized his own achievements. Now he passed that ever since he went into therapy with Metallica
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* This applies to Canoe Racing in Canada - The Junior category is anyone who hasn't won 1st or 2nd in the last 4 years in Junior. So if you get second, you can't race for the same trophy for 4 years. Especially relevant in the case of the J.W. Black Trophy for Junior Mens Canoe 4s, which is the most coveted Canoeing trophy in Canada, if not the world (also holds 52 or so beers, which helps). Canoeists even have a word for this trope - being Blackwashed.
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** [[spoiler: Subverted later on in the movie when Ricky's Dad says "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."]]
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-->'''Bender:''' ''"Second place? That's a fancy word for losing."''\\
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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly criticized for the line, as it was totally against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.

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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial Happens in ''ParadiseKiss''. While the other members take it better, [[spoiler: winning the second prize in the HighSchoolFestival contest]] is the catalyst that ran during sends George into a life crisis, believing he can't connect with the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly public (and thus achieve success as a fashion designer) without compromising his personal artistic vision. Yukari also takes it rather dramatically. [[spoiler: Angst ensues, they break up. It's not the only reason, but it sure creates a lot of drama.]]
* Fans have
criticized the ''{{Pokemon}}'' anime for never letting Ash win any of the line, as it was totally various League tournaments he enters. Such complaints ignore the fact that ''hundreds'' of trainers enter each of these tournaments, and the lowest Ash has ever finished is 16th overall. And then there's the fact that he's competed in special RunTheGauntlet challenges against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days groups of highly skilled trainers and never mentioned it again.won both times.
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* Subverted in ''KingOfTheHill''. Hank doesn't win a shooting competition, and his [[WellDoneSonGuy dad won a bet he wouldn't]]. But then Bobby walks up and says. "Wow, Dad. Second place in a ''real competition''." It's worth noting that Hank was established throughout the episode as being a really crummy shot to begin with.



* In {{Gattaca}}, the (wheelchair-bound) Jerome is like this:

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* It's a theme in the second season of SportsNight. An athlete sets a new world record during a long jump competition; five minutes later, another athlete breaks this new record and wins the gold. Dan tells his therapist that no one will ever remember the first guy because he lost.
* The unfortunate tendency for sports teams who keep getting to the championships and losing to be treated as failures, when in fact they must be pretty good to make it there so many times.
** Prime example: The Buffalo Bills. They made it to the {{Super Bowl}} four straight years, only to lose all four times. Instead of being thought of as a team that dominated the American Conference by winning it four straight times, they're thought of as chokers.
* Several people who came in second for reality TV shows such as {{Survivor}} and the American BigBrother have acted like they lost the game because they didn't win.
** Notably averted on ''TheAmazingRace'', where second place teams rarely ever take it badly. Of course, there is the occasional racer like Boston Rob who accuses the producers of fixing the race against him. But then, considering what other [[{{Survivor}} reality show he finished second on...]]
*** When RealityTV contestents go on a show after they get kicked off/voted out etc. (like doing an apperance on ''DavidLetterman'' or ''{{Today}}'') they'll have all of the losing contestents...until the GrandFinale where the winner is announced. Then they'll only have the winner on, nevermind the 2nd place (and possibly 3rd & 4th) who were established during the same show.



* BatmanBeyond had an episode where, after scoring second highest on an exam, one character was told by his mother that that makes him "the winning loser." Said boy then strikes a vendetta against the top scorer, who happens to be Batman's best friend.
** To point out how ridiculously high the standards of the guy's mom were, he got 2397 out of 2400. The only person above him got a perfect score.
-->'''Mom:''' Almost doesn't get you anywhere in life. [[TheBGrade Almost gets you almost]].

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* BatmanBeyond had an episode where, after scoring second highest on an exam, Played with in ''TheWildOne'': one character of Johnny's gang steals the second-place trophy from a local motorcycle race and gives it to him; Johnny complains, "Why didn't you steal first?" "It was too big." Johnny displays the trophy prominently on his bike.
* ''TalladegaNights'' "If you ain't first, you're last." Ricky Bobby bases his entire life on this one phrase his father
told by him, and earnestly believes it to the point that he can't deal with the idea of someone being better than him. He has a nervous breakdown when he wrecks in his first race against Jean Girard and needs training just to know how to go fast again.
* The coach of the [[OpposingSportsTeam Hawks]] in the first ''[[TheMightyDucks Mighty Ducks]]'' movie gazes at the one second-place banner in a long-row of first-place banners and remarks, "I sure wish they'd take that one down." Apparently, being perceived as not even making the top 3 or 4 teams that year is better than getting second.

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* In the ''RedDwarf'' novel ''Better Than Life'', a scene in Rimmer's childhood shows him nearly winning a race before another boy trips him up, and we're told his father's favourite phrase is "Winning isn't everything, but losing is nothing". But then we're shown Ace Rimmer in the same sports day, and he ''throws'' the race, because he realises another boy really ''needs'' to win it. While
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* It's a theme in the second season of ''SportsNight''. An athlete sets a new world record during a long jump competition; five minutes later, another athlete breaks this new record and wins the gold. Dan tells his therapist
that that makes him "the winning loser." Said boy then strikes a vendetta no one will ever remember the first guy because he lost.
* Several people who came in second for reality TV shows such as ''{{Survivor}}'' and the American ''BigBrother'' have acted like they lost the game because they didn't win.
** Notably averted on ''TheAmazingRace'', where second place teams rarely ever take it badly. Of course, there is the occasional racer like Boston Rob who accuses the producers of fixing the race
against the top scorer, who happens to be Batman's best friend.
** To point
him. But then, considering what other [[{{Survivor}} reality show he finished second on...]]
*** When RealityTV contestants go on a show after they get kicked off/voted
out how ridiculously high the standards etc. (like doing an appearance on ''DavidLetterman'' or ''{{Today}}'') they'll have all of the guy's mom were, losing contestants...until the GrandFinale where the winner is announced. Then they'll only have the winner on, nevermind the 2nd place (and possibly 3rd & 4th) who were established during the same show.
* In ''{{Survivor}}'', Russell Hantz won second place in ''Samoa'', then third in ''Heroes vs. Villains''. After ''Samoa'',
he got 2397 acted like he was slapped in the face and practically ''murdered'' when he came in second out of 2400. The only person above ''twenty'' people, then third out of ''twenty people'', all of which were former players and several of which were considered the ''best''. however when he won the Sprint player of the year award, he ''immediately'' begun the typical Victory dance in ''Heroes vs. Villains''.
** Russell basically acted like a terrible sport in Heroes vs. Villains. Instead of congratulating Sandra in not angering potential votes, Russell began to attack the game ''itself'' saying that it was "Flawed" if someone who played differently than
him got could ''win'', and immediately proposing an alternative rule(set) that would most ''definitely'' favour ''him''. Basically, he came across as someone who played the game well and deserved more recognition from the fellow players...or a perfect score.
-->'''Mom:''' Almost doesn't get you anywhere in life. [[TheBGrade Almost gets you almost]].
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* The New York Yankees. If they don't win the World Series, their season is considered a failure. If it has been more than a couple of years since the Yankees last won, the New York sports media will often refer to them as having a "championship drought". When the team won the 2009 World Series, the occasion was treated as if it had been a long, long time since their previous one... which was actually just nine years prior. Over half the teams in Major League Baseball haven't won in the last 20.



* In one mission in EliteBeatAgents, you are trying to get a runner with a cold back to health in order to win the big race. Depending on how well you do, he reacts with roughly equal enthusiasm to winning Gold or Silver, but is very distraught to have only won 3rd, even if that is pretty good for someone who just got over a cold.
* In TonyHawkProSkating4 (and probably several other games in the series), there were several competition missions in which you "only" had to be 3rd so get a "mission complete" status. How many players do you think would keep redoing the mission until they actually got a 1st place? Heck, this troper would often restart before it was finished, if it looked like he'd be number 2.

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* In one mission in EliteBeatAgents, ''EliteBeatAgents'', you are trying to get a runner with a cold back to health in order to win the big race. Depending on how well you do, he reacts with roughly equal enthusiasm to winning Gold or Silver, but is very distraught to have only won 3rd, even if that is pretty good for someone who just got over a cold.
* In TonyHawkProSkating4 ''TonyHawkProSkating4'' (and probably several other games in the series), there were several competition missions in which you "only" had to be 3rd so get a "mission complete" status. How many players do you think would keep redoing the mission until they actually got a 1st place? Heck, this troper would often restart before it was finished, if it looked like he'd be number 2.2.
* In the ''HarvestMoon'' series, winning a contest gets you high praise and affection from the other villagers. Don't win, even finishing in second, and everyone (even your spouse, if present) reacts in the same "You lost? You suck!" manner, whether it was second place or dead last.

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* Subverted in ''KingOfTheHill''. Hank doesn't win a shooting competition, and his [[WellDoneSonGuy dad won a bet he wouldn't]]. But then Bobby walks up and says. "Wow, Dad. Second place in a ''real competition''." It's worth noting that Hank was established throughout the episode as being a really crummy shot to begin with.
* ''BatmanBeyond'' had an episode where, after scoring second highest on an exam, one character was told by his mother that that makes him "the winning loser." Said boy then strikes a vendetta against the top scorer, who happens to be Batman's best friend.
** To point out how ridiculously high the standards of the guy's mom were, he got 2397 out of 2400. The only person above him got a perfect score.
-->'''Mom:''' Almost doesn't get you anywhere in life. [[TheBGrade Almost gets you almost]].



* Happens in ''ParadiseKiss''. While the other members take it better, [[spoiler: winning the second prize in the HighSchoolFestival contest]] is the catalyst that sends George into a life crisis, believing he can't connect with the public (and thus achieve success as a fashion designer) without compromising his personal artistic vision. Yukari also takes it rather dramatically. [[spoiler: Angst ensues, they break up. It's not the only reason, but it sure creates a lot of drama.]]

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* Happens Mocked in ''ParadiseKiss''. While ''TheSimpsons'', where the other members take it better, [[spoiler: winning Olympics commissioner reaffirms the purpose of the Games: "giving out medals of beautiful gold, so-so silver, and shameful bronze."
* An episode of ''CourageTheCowardlyDog'' had [[CatsAreMean Katz]] attempting revenge on Muriel because he always come in
second prize to her in Nowhere's cooking contests.
* Played with on ''TheWeekenders''. Tino got 3rd place in a horseshoes competition, during a weekend sports meet, which he was pretty proud of, considering his took up
the HighSchoolFestival contest]] is the catalyst sport that sends George into a life crisis, believing weekend. His friends didn't see what the big deal was, since he can't connect didn't win. Probably had to do with the public (and thus achieve success fact that they all won their competitions.
* In an episode of ''{{Futurama}}'', Bender enters Zoidberg in a pet show. When Zoidberg wins second place, Bender says the page quote.

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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly criticized for the line, as it was totally against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.
* The unfortunate tendency for sports teams who keep getting to the championships and losing to be treated as failures, when in fact they must be pretty good to make it there so many times.
** Prime example: The Buffalo Bills. They made it to the {{Super Bowl}} four straight years, only to lose all four times. Instead of being thought of
as a fashion designer) without compromising his personal artistic vision. Yukari also takes team that dominated the American Conference by winning it rather dramatically. [[spoiler: Angst ensues, four straight times, they're thought of as chokers.
* The New York Yankees. If
they break up. It's not don't win the only reason, but World Series, their season is considered a failure. If it sure creates has been more than a lot couple of drama.]]years since the Yankees last won, the New York sports media will often refer to them as having a "championship drought". When the team won the 2009 World Series, the occasion was treated as if it had been a long, long time since their previous one... which was actually just nine years prior. Over half the teams in Major League Baseball haven't won in the last 20.



*** Averted by the Croatian basketbell team in 1992; they talked about how happy they were to be winning silver ''before the gold medal game was even played''. They were going up against the Dream Team, and had no illusions about winning.
* Mocked in TheSimpsons, where the Olympics commissioner reaffirms the purpose of the Games: "giving out medals of beautiful gold, so-so silver, and shameful bronze."
* Played with in ''The Wild One'': one of Johnny's gang steals the second-place trophy from a local motorcycle race and gives it to him; Johnny complains, "Why didn't you steal first?" "It was too big." Johnny displays the trophy prominantly on his bike.
* In the ''RedDwarf'' novel ''Better Than Life'', a scene in Rimmer's childhood shows him nearly winning a race before another boy trips him up, and we're told his father's favourite phrase is "Winning isn't everything, but losing is nothing". But then we're shown Ace Rimmer in the same sports day, and he ''throws'' the race, because he realises another boy really ''needs'' to win it. While his mother stares in disbelief, he thinks "After all, losing isn't nothing."

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*** Averted by the Croatian basketbell basketball team in 1992; they talked about how happy they were to be winning silver ''before the gold medal game was even played''. They were going up against the Dream Team, and had no illusions about winning.
* Mocked in TheSimpsons, where the Olympics commissioner reaffirms the purpose of the Games: "giving out medals of beautiful gold, so-so silver, and shameful bronze."
* Played with in ''The Wild One'': one of Johnny's gang steals the second-place trophy from a local motorcycle race and gives it to him; Johnny complains, "Why didn't you steal first?" "It was too big." Johnny displays the trophy prominantly on his bike.
* In the ''RedDwarf'' novel ''Better Than Life'', a scene in Rimmer's childhood shows him nearly winning a race before another boy trips him up, and we're told his father's favourite phrase is "Winning isn't everything, but losing is nothing". But then we're shown Ace Rimmer in the same sports day, and he ''throws'' the race, because he realises another boy really ''needs'' to win it. While his mother stares in disbelief, he thinks "After all, losing isn't nothing."
winning.



* Blatantly averted in the 1987 FormulaOne season, though. Most of the points Nelson Piquet earned to get his third championship title came from earning ''second place'' in races.

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* Blatantly averted in the 1987 FormulaOne ''FormulaOne'' season, though. Most of the points Nelson Piquet earned to get his third championship title came from earning ''second place'' in races.



* An episode of ''CourageTheCowardlyDog'' had [[CatsAreMean Katz]] attempting revenge on Muriel because he always come in second to her in Nowhere's cooking contests.
* ''TalladegaNights'' "If you ain't first, you're last." Ricky Bobby bases his entire life on this one phrase his father told him, and earnestly believes it to the point that he can't deal with the idea of someone being better than him. He has a nervous breakdown when he wrecks in his first race against Jean Girard and needs training just to know how to go fast again.
* Played with on TheWeekenders. Tino got 3rd place in a horseshoes competition, during a weekend sports meet, which he was pretty proud of, considering his took up the sport that weekend. His friends didn't see what the big deal was, since he didn't win. Probably had to do with the fact that they all won their competitions.
* The coach of the [[OpposingSportsTeam Hawks]] in the first ''[[TheMightyDucks Mighty Ducks]]'' movie gazes at the one second-place banner in a long-row of first-place banners and remarks, "I sure wish they'd take that one down." Apparently, being perceived as not even making the top 3 or 4 teams that year is better than getting second.
* Fans have criticized the ''{{Pokemon}}'' anime for never letting Ash win any of the various League tournaments he enters. Such complaints ignore the fact that ''hundreds'' of trainers enter each of these tournaments, and the lowest Ash has ever finished is 16th overall. And then there's the fact that he's competed in special RunTheGauntlet challenges against groups of highly skilled trainers and won both times.
* In an episode of ''{{Futurama}}'', Bender enters Zoidberg in a pet show. When Zoidberg wins second place, Bender says the page quote.
* In ''{{Survivor}}'', Russell Hantz won second place in ''Samoa'', then third in ''Heroes vs. Villains''. After ''Samoa'', he acted like he was slapped in the face and practically ''murdered'' when he came in second out of ''twenty'' people, then third out of ''twenty people'', all of which were former players and several of which were considered the ''best''. however when he won the Sprint player of the year award, he ''immediately'' begun the typical Victory dance in ''Heroes vs. Villains''.
** Russell basically acted like a terrible sport in Heroes vs. Villains. Instead of congratulating Sandra in not angering potential votes, Russell began to attack the game ''itself'' saying that it was "Flawed" if someone who played differently than him could ''win'', and immediately proposing an alternative rule(set) that would most ''definitely'' favour ''him''. Basically, he came across as someone who played the game well and deserved more recognition from the fellow players...or a ''terrible'' sport who needs to learn that the game is ''not'' just played his way.



* In the ''HarvestMoon'' series, winning a contest gets you high praise and affection from the other villagers. Don't win, even finishing in second, and everyone (even your spouse, if present) reacts in the same "You lost? You suck!" manner, whether it was second place or dead last.
* [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} Seto Kaiba's]] outlook on life.

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* In the ''HarvestMoon'' series, winning a contest gets you high praise and affection from the other villagers. Don't win, even finishing in second, and everyone (even your spouse, if present) reacts in the same "You lost? You suck!" manner, whether it was second place or dead last.
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** Russell basically acted like a terrible sport in Heroes vs. Villains. Instead of congratulating Sandra in not angering potential votes, Russell begun to attack the game ''itself'' saying that it was "Flawed" if if someone who played differently than him could ''win'', and immediately proposing an alternative rule(set) that would most ''definitely'' favour ''him''. Basically, he came across as someone who played the game well and deserved more recognition from the fellow players...or a ''terrible'' sport who needs to learn that the game is ''not'' just played his way.

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** Russell basically acted like a terrible sport in Heroes vs. Villains. Instead of congratulating Sandra in not angering potential votes, Russell begun began to attack the game ''itself'' saying that it was "Flawed" if if someone who played differently than him could ''win'', and immediately proposing an alternative rule(set) that would most ''definitely'' favour ''him''. Basically, he came across as someone who played the game well and deserved more recognition from the fellow players...or a ''terrible'' sport who needs to learn that the game is ''not'' just played his way.


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** According to a recent Vanity Fair article Jackson ''himself'' had this attitude; wildly successful though ''Thriller'' was, he expected it to be merely a stepping stone to even greater achievements.
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*** Averted by the Croatian basketbell team in 1992; they talked about how happy they were to be winning silver ''before the gold medal game was even played''. They were going up against the Dream Team, and had no illusions about winning.
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** I refuse to watch any of them to find out if this is the case or not, but I think second place really ''is'' first loser when there's only one prize given out.
*** Usually, the price for 2nd is something like 10% of the prize for 1st. I know the prize for 2nd place on ''{{Survivor}}'' is $100,000. Not a million by any means, but certainly not chump change.
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In a narrative sense, this can be used to give an {{Aesop}} about sportsmanship, or at can be used to squeeze some extra {{Angst}} from a character, especially if the second placing character hoped to use the competition to impress their WellDoneSonGuy.

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In a narrative sense, this can be used to give an {{Aesop}} about sportsmanship, or at can be used to squeeze some extra {{Angst}} from a character, especially if the second placing character hoped is a WellDoneSonGuy, hoping to use the competition to impress their WellDoneSonGuy.
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->''"You don't win silver -- you lose gold."''
-->--Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta:

->''And the winner of the tournament won the controllers that were opened for the tournament (worth $80), and $20 in cash. Second place was a can of coke and an autographed picture of Gord. Third place was $20. The Gord likes to remind people that second place is just the first loser.''
-->--[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php Acts of Gord]]

->''The Olympics is really my favorite sporting event,although I think I have a problem with that silver medal. I think, if I was an Olympic athlete, I would rather come in last than win the silver. If you think about it... if you win the gold, you feel good. If you win in the bronze, you think: "Well, at least I got something." But if you win that silver, it's like: "Congratulations! You... almost won." "Of all the losers, you came in first of that group." "You're the number one... loser." "No one lost... ahead of you."''
-->--'''Jerry Seinfeld''':


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->''"You don't win silver -- you lose gold."''
-->--Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta:

->''And the winner of the tournament won the controllers that were opened
-->'''Bender:''' ''"Second place? That's a fancy word for the tournament (worth $80), and $20 in cash. Second place was a can of coke and an autographed picture of Gord. Third place was $20. The Gord likes to remind people that second place is just the first loser.''
-->--[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php Acts of Gord]]

->''The Olympics is really my favorite sporting event,although I think I have a problem with that silver medal. I think, if I was an Olympic athlete, I would rather come in last than win the silver. If you think about it... if you win the gold, you feel good. If you win in the bronze, you think: "Well, at least I got something." But if you win that silver, it's like: "Congratulations! You... almost won." "Of all the losers, you came in first of that group." "You're the number one... loser." "No one lost... ahead of you."''
-->--'''Jerry Seinfeld''':

losing."''\\
-- ''{{Futurama}}''



Please note that, real or fictional, this attitude is almost never shown in a positive light, and most leagues (especially youth leagues) consider it ''very'' bad sportsmanship. Nike was so roundly criticized for the above quote, they yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.

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Please note that, real or fictional, this attitude is almost never shown in a positive light, and most leagues (especially youth leagues) consider it ''very'' bad sportsmanship. Nike was so roundly criticized for the above quote, they yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.
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* "You don't win silver -- you lose gold." was from a Nike commercial that ran during the 1996 Summer [[OlympicGames Olympics]] in Atlanta. Nike was roundly criticized for the line, as it was totally against the Olympic spirit. They yanked the campaign after just a few days and never mentioned it again.



* In an episode of ''{{Futurama}}'', Bender enters Zoidberg in a pet show. When Zoidberg wins second place, Bender yells at him "Second place? That's a fancy word for losing."

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* In an episode of ''{{Futurama}}'', Bender enters Zoidberg in a pet show. When Zoidberg wins second place, Bender yells at him "Second place? That's a fancy word for losing."says the page quote.
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** It also doesn't help that most racing games won't let you unlock the best cars or levels without finishing in first. Came in 2nd or worse? No super fast car for you! Also gets worse when a game does this and uses ThatOneLevel.

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