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2nd May '16 5:15:58 PM GamingFan1997
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' takes this trope to [[{{Deconstruction}} the logical extreme]]. Initially, when Shinji first surpasses Asuka's synch ratio, she's just pissed at him. Later, after being [[CantCatchUp curbstomped three times in a row with Shinji always scoring the kill instead of her]], she becomes extremely distraught, due to her past: she always prided herself on being the best so that she [[IWorkAlone won't need any kind of help from anyone]]. By not being the best anymore and her rival consistently having a stellar performance, she's afraid of being put to the sidelines and as a result, her synch ratio is plummeting; seeing this, she also becomes afraid that if she drops low enough, she will be relieved of her duties which to her would be equal to being publicly humiliated in the worst way possible for a human. And the best part in all of this? '''She knows what's wrong but her pride doesn't let her admit it to herself.''' Oh, it gets even ''better''. Right after her third defeat (technically second since she couldn't attack Leliel, much less harm it), she's sent into battle again, knowing that this is the last chance the NERV leadership is giving for her: if she screws up this time, it's game over. Not only she doesn't get a single shot off at Arael, '''she undergoes the TropeNamer for MindRape instead'''. And she gets saved by the person she hates the most. Next time she's sent up against Armisael, she can't even get her Eva to move anymore and is withdrawn; as an indirect result, Rei-II is killed by the Angel despite Shinji's intervention ("you didn't send him out for me... am I really that worthless?"). What do NERV does in this situation? Does they try to solve Asuka's psychological problems and cheer her up? [[ThereAreNoTherapists Noooo]], [[WeHaveReserves they send her into early retirement and fetch a replacement instead]].

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' takes this trope to [[{{Deconstruction}} the logical extreme]]. Initially, when Shinji first surpasses Asuka's synch ratio, she's just pissed at him. Later, after being [[CantCatchUp curbstomped three times in a row with Shinji always scoring the kill instead of her]], she becomes extremely distraught, due to her past: she always prided herself on being the best so that she [[IWorkAlone won't need any kind of help from anyone]]. By not being the best anymore and her rival consistently having a stellar performance, she's afraid of being put to the sidelines and as a result, her synch ratio is plummeting; seeing this, she also becomes afraid that if she drops low enough, she will be relieved of her duties which to her would be equal to being publicly humiliated in the worst way possible for a human. And the best part in all of this? '''She knows what's wrong but her pride doesn't let her admit it to herself.''' Oh, it gets even ''better''. Right after her third defeat (technically second since she couldn't attack Leliel, much less harm it), she's sent into battle again, knowing that this is the last chance the NERV leadership is giving for her: if she screws up this time, it's game over. Not only she doesn't get a single shot off at Arael, '''she undergoes the TropeNamer for MindRape instead'''. And she gets saved by the person she hates the most. Next time she's sent up against Armisael, she can't even get her Eva to move anymore and is withdrawn; as an indirect result, Rei-II is killed by the Angel despite Shinji's intervention ("you didn't send him out for me... am I really that worthless?"). What do NERV does in this situation? Does they try to solve Asuka's psychological problems and cheer her up? [[ThereAreNoTherapists Noooo]], [[WeHaveReserves they send her into early retirement and fetch a replacement instead]].instead]] - ''[[AntiVillain who just so happens to be the final Angel]]''.
1st May '16 9:25:53 AM Pichu-kun
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* According to ''[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php The Acts Of Gord]]'' (an early 2000s website where a video game retailer posted stories of annoying or ignorant customers), he had a video game tournament for ''VideoGame/Tekken 2'' where this was invoked:

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* According to ''[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php The Acts Of Gord]]'' (an early 2000s website where a video game retailer posted stories of annoying or ignorant customers), he had a video game tournament for ''VideoGame/Tekken ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} 2'' where this was invoked:
1st May '16 9:22:57 AM Pichu-kun
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* According to '[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php The Acts Of Gord]]'' (an early 2000s website where a video game retailer posted stories of annoying or ignorant customers), he had a video game tournament for ''VideoGame/Tekken2'' where this was invoked.
-->''And the winner of the tournament won the controllers that were opened for the tournament (worth $80), and $20 in cash.  Second place was a can of coke and an autographed picture of Gord.  Third place was $20.''

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* According to '[[http://www.''[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php The Acts Of Gord]]'' (an early 2000s website where a video game retailer posted stories of annoying or ignorant customers), he had a video game tournament for ''VideoGame/Tekken2'' ''VideoGame/Tekken 2'' where this was invoked.
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-->''And the winner of the tournament won the controllers that were opened for the tournament (worth $80), and $20 in cash.  Second place was a can of coke and an autographed picture of Gord.  Gord. Third place was $20.''
1st May '16 9:11:04 AM Pichu-kun
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* Happens in ''ParadiseKiss''. While the other members take it better, [[spoiler: winning the second prize in the SchoolFestival contest]] is the catalyst that sends George into a life crisis, believing he can't connect with the public (and thus achieve success as a fashion designer) without compromising his personal artistic vision. Yukari also takes it rather dramatically. [[spoiler: Angst ensues, they break up. It's not the only reason, but it sure creates a lot of drama.]]

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* Happens in ''ParadiseKiss''.''Manga/ParadiseKiss''. While the other members take it better, [[spoiler: winning the second prize in the SchoolFestival contest]] is the catalyst that sends George into a life crisis, believing he can't connect with the public (and thus achieve success as a fashion designer) without compromising his personal artistic vision. Yukari also takes it rather dramatically. [[spoiler: Angst ensues, they break up. It's not the only reason, but it sure creates a lot of drama.]]



* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' takes this trope to [[{{Deconstruction}} the logical extreme]]. Initially, when Shinji first surpasses Asuka's synch ratio, she's just pissed at him. Later, after being [[CantCatchUp curbstomped three times in a row with Shinji always scoring the kill instead of her]], she becomes extremely distraught, due to her past: she always prided herself on being the best so that she [[IWorkAlone won't need any kind of help from anyone]]. By not being the best anymore and her rival consistently having a stellar performance, she's afraid of being put to the sidelines and as a result, her synch ratio is plummeting; seeing this, she also becomes afraid that if she drops low enough, she will be relieved of her duties which to her would be equal to being publicly humiliated in the worst way possible for a human. And the best part in all of this? '''She knows what's wrong but her pride doesn't let her admit it to herself.'''
** Oh, it gets even ''better''. Right after her third defeat (technically second since she couldn't attack Leliel, much less harm it), she's sent into battle again, knowing that this is the last chance the NERV leadership is giving for her: if she screws up this time, it's game over. Not only she doesn't get a single shot off at Arael, '''she undergoes the TropeNamer for MindRape instead'''. And she gets saved by the person she hates the most. Next time she's sent up against Armisael, she can't even get her Eva to move anymore and is withdrawn; as an indirect result, Rei-II is killed by the Angel despite Shinji's intervention ("you didn't send him out for me... am I really that worthless?"). What do NERV does in this situation? Does they try to solve Asuka's psychological problems and cheer her up? [[ThereAreNoTherapists Noooo]], [[WeHaveReserves they send her into early retirement and fetch a replacement instead]].
* Invoked in {{Eyeshield 21}}. It's made clear that many of the teams have players who are on their last chance to make it to the finals, and none of them are content with being 2nd.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' takes this trope to [[{{Deconstruction}} the logical extreme]]. Initially, when Shinji first surpasses Asuka's synch ratio, she's just pissed at him. Later, after being [[CantCatchUp curbstomped three times in a row with Shinji always scoring the kill instead of her]], she becomes extremely distraught, due to her past: she always prided herself on being the best so that she [[IWorkAlone won't need any kind of help from anyone]]. By not being the best anymore and her rival consistently having a stellar performance, she's afraid of being put to the sidelines and as a result, her synch ratio is plummeting; seeing this, she also becomes afraid that if she drops low enough, she will be relieved of her duties which to her would be equal to being publicly humiliated in the worst way possible for a human. And the best part in all of this? '''She knows what's wrong but her pride doesn't let her admit it to herself.'''
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''' Oh, it gets even ''better''. Right after her third defeat (technically second since she couldn't attack Leliel, much less harm it), she's sent into battle again, knowing that this is the last chance the NERV leadership is giving for her: if she screws up this time, it's game over. Not only she doesn't get a single shot off at Arael, '''she undergoes the TropeNamer for MindRape instead'''. And she gets saved by the person she hates the most. Next time she's sent up against Armisael, she can't even get her Eva to move anymore and is withdrawn; as an indirect result, Rei-II is killed by the Angel despite Shinji's intervention ("you didn't send him out for me... am I really that worthless?"). What do NERV does in this situation? Does they try to solve Asuka's psychological problems and cheer her up? [[ThereAreNoTherapists Noooo]], [[WeHaveReserves they send her into early retirement and fetch a replacement instead]].
* Invoked in {{Eyeshield 21}}.''Manga/{{Eyeshield 21}}''. It's made clear that many of the teams have players who are on their last chance to make it to the finals, and none of them are content with being 2nd.



* ''TigerAndBunny'' has [[spoiler:[[TheAce Keith Goodman/Sky High]]]] struggling with this after [[spoiler:Barnaby Brooks Jr. takes his place as the highest ranking superhero]]. However, being the NiceGuy to end all {{Nice Guy}}s, he's not angry over no longer being the best so much as he's afraid that he can no longer live up to the expectations people have for him.

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* ''TigerAndBunny'' ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' has [[spoiler:[[TheAce Keith Goodman/Sky High]]]] struggling with this after [[spoiler:Barnaby Brooks Jr. takes his place as the highest ranking superhero]]. However, being the NiceGuy to end all {{Nice Guy}}s, he's not angry over no longer being the best so much as he's afraid that he can no longer live up to the expectations people have for him.



* In the ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon'' and ''VideoGame/RuneFactory'' series, winning a contest gets you high praise and affection from the other villagers. Don't win, even finishing in second, and everyone (even your spouse, if present) reacts in the same "You lost? You suck!" manner, whether it was second place or dead last.

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* In the ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon'' ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' and ''VideoGame/RuneFactory'' series, winning a contest gets you high praise and affection from the other villagers. Don't win, even finishing in second, and everyone (even your spouse, if present) reacts in the same "You lost? You suck!" manner, whether it was second place or dead last.



* At the end of ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', Professor Oak gives Blue a speech on how disappointed he is in him, and how he needs to learn to treat Pokémon well like Red does, almost completely ignoring how Blue's methods got him past all the gyms and the Elite Four, and he'd still be Kanto's champion if Red hadn't shown up.
** Given that Blue is a complete asshole who lost to Red every time they met, there's definitely ''something'' wrong with both his technique and him as a person.

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* At the end of ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', Professor Oak gives Blue a speech on how disappointed he is in him, and how he needs to learn to treat Pokémon well like Red does, almost completely ignoring how Blue's methods got him past all the gyms and the Elite Four, and he'd still be Kanto's champion if Red hadn't shown up.
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up. Given that Blue is a complete asshole who lost to Red every time they met, there's definitely ''something'' wrong with both his technique and him as a person.



* Applejack of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is rather devastated during "The Last Roundup" when she fails to bring home first place in the rodeo championship, and the prize money to help fix town hall. Not helped by the fact that she had won the Ponyville rodeo ten times in a row but couldn't succeed when she tried to compete in Canterlot.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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Applejack of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is rather devastated during "The Last Roundup" when she fails to bring home first place in the rodeo championship, and the prize money to help fix town hall. Not helped by the fact that she had won the Ponyville rodeo ten times in a row but couldn't succeed when she tried to compete in Canterlot.



* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' shows Stan Smith as a living embodiment of the trope. Stan believes that when it comes to sports, you either win or you're just a pathetic loser. The episode "Every Which Way But Lose" has Stan constantly belittling his son, Steve, for not coming in 1st place in any sport. When Steve teams up with Roger and beats Stan's team in a football game, Stan takes the loss so badly that he almost commits suicide, believing he would rather die than to live life with a loss on his record.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'':
** ''American Dad''
shows Stan Smith as a living embodiment of the trope. Stan believes that when it comes to sports, you either win or you're just a pathetic loser. The episode "Every Which Way But Lose" has Stan constantly belittling his son, Steve, for not coming in 1st place in any sport. When Steve teams up with Roger and beats Stan's team in a football game, Stan takes the loss so badly that he almost commits suicide, believing he would rather die than to live life with a loss on his record.


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* According to '[[http://www.actsofgord.com/Annoy/chapter05.php The Acts Of Gord]]'' (an early 2000s website where a video game retailer posted stories of annoying or ignorant customers), he had a video game tournament for ''VideoGame/Tekken2'' where this was invoked.
-->''And the winner of the tournament won the controllers that were opened for the tournament (worth $80), and $20 in cash.  Second place was a can of coke and an autographed picture of Gord.  Third place was $20.''
-->''The Gord likes to remind people that second place is just the first loser.''
30th Apr '16 2:57:30 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* The eternal "curse" of the Chilean soccer club [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Universidad_Catolica Universidad Católica]], which has finished '''fourty-four''' times as second place in the Chilean championship as of March 2016. From TheOtherWiki:

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* The almost eternal "curse" of the Chilean soccer club [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Universidad_Catolica Universidad Católica]], which has finished '''fourty-four''' times as second place in the Chilean championship as of March until they finally won in April 2016. From TheOtherWiki:
23rd Apr '16 2:51:35 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* The eternal "curse" of the Chilean soccer club [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Universidad_Cat%C3%B3lica Universidad Católica]], which has finishes '''fourty-four''' times as second place in the Chilean championship as of March 2016. From TheOtherWiki:

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* The eternal "curse" of the Chilean soccer club [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Universidad_Cat%C3%B3lica org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Universidad_Catolica Universidad Católica]], which has finishes finished '''fourty-four''' times as second place in the Chilean championship as of March 2016. From TheOtherWiki:
5th Apr '16 9:27:41 AM lalaTKG
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** The mother of Steve's japanese friend Toshi, and his on-off-again romantic interest Akiko belives in this trope wholeheartedly, being a TigerMom EducationMama who relentlessly pressures her daughter to study and work on countless competitions. When Stevebeats Akiko in a spelling bee, Steve ends up forfeiting the win to her when he sees her mother openly berate her and promising to be even stricter from now on. Strangely, this ONLY applies to Akiko, as the mother is never seen doing much parenting with Toshi.
* ''WesternAnimation/CampLazlo'' subverted, Lazlo's team finished in the middle of the pack, while Edward got first. But their 2nd place trophy was bigger than Edward 1st place, even Chip and Skip who got last place have a bigger trophy than Edward.

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** The mother of Steve's japanese friend Toshi, and his on-off-again romantic interest Akiko belives in this trope wholeheartedly, being a TigerMom EducationMama who relentlessly pressures her daughter to study and work on countless competitions. When Stevebeats Steve beats Akiko in a spelling bee, Steve ends up forfeiting the win to her when he sees her mother openly berate her and promising to be even stricter from now on. Strangely, this ONLY applies to Akiko, as the mother is never seen doing much parenting with Toshi.
* ''WesternAnimation/CampLazlo'' subverted, ''WesternAnimation/CampLazlo'': Subverted. Lazlo's team finished in the middle of the pack, while Edward Edward's got first. But first place. However, their 2nd place trophy was bigger ''bigger'' than Edward Edward's 1st place, even place trophy. Even [[AlwaysIdenticalTwins Chip and Skip Skip]], who got last place place, have a bigger trophy than Edward.
4th Apr '16 5:09:12 PM lalaTKG
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* [[Creator/CarlBarks Scrooge [=McDuck's=]]] rival Flintheart Glomgold is the Second Richest Duck in the world, Scrooge being the richest, [[{{Fiction500}} given how rich Scrooge is]], that's no easy feat. An EvilCounterpart of Scrooge, Flintheart is depicted as a miser, plutocrat, and tycoon, every negative quality associated with wealth, and despite having more money that most countries, is obsessed with surpassing his rival as the richest. He has been known to be willing to undertake ''any'' endeavor, no matter how dishonest, unethical, or illegal they are to meet this goal. How one man (or rather, one duck) could be so shallow is a mystery best left unexplored.

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* [[Creator/CarlBarks Scrooge [=McDuck's=]]] rival Flintheart Glomgold is the Second Richest Duck in the world, Scrooge being the richest, richest. [[{{Fiction500}} given Given how rich Scrooge is]], that's no easy feat. An EvilCounterpart of Scrooge, Flintheart is depicted as a miser, plutocrat, and tycoon, every negative quality associated with wealth, and despite having more money that most countries, is obsessed with surpassing his rival as the richest. He has been known to be willing to undertake ''any'' endeavor, no matter how dishonest, unethical, or illegal they are to meet this goal. How one man (or rather, one duck) could be so shallow is a mystery best left unexplored.
4th Apr '16 4:56:50 PM lalaTKG
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* ''Anime/YuGiOh'': This is Seto Kaiba's outlook on life. He lost his ''Duel Monsters'' Champion title to Yugi and he didn't manage to defeat Yugi in a ''fair'' duel in the Duelist Kingdom. He creates the Battly City tournament to gather all Egyptian God Cards and to defeat Yugi in his tournament. However, Kaiba loses to Yugi in the semi-finals, so after the end of the Battle City, Kaiba blows up Alcatraz and the whole island to ''kill'' Yugi with his friends, but they escape. After Battle City, Kaiba loses his goal of becoming number one in favor of focusing on his Kaiba Land project, but defeating Yugi still remains a symbolic goal in his eye, proven by the way he blows his top in the DOMA Arc (anime only) when he finds out his rival has lost to Rafael.

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* ''Anime/YuGiOh'': This is Seto Kaiba's outlook on life. He lost his ''Duel Monsters'' Champion title to Yugi and he didn't manage to defeat Yugi in a ''fair'' duel in the Duelist Kingdom. He creates the Battly Battle City tournament to gather all Egyptian God Cards and to defeat Yugi in his tournament. However, Kaiba loses to Yugi in the semi-finals, so after the end of the Battle City, Kaiba blows up Alcatraz and the whole island to ''kill'' Yugi with his friends, but they escape. After Battle City, Kaiba loses his goal of becoming number one in favor of focusing on his Kaiba Land project, but defeating Yugi still remains a symbolic goal in his eye, proven by the way he blows his top in the DOMA Arc (anime only) when he finds out his rival has lost to Rafael.
31st Mar '16 12:31:57 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* ''Defied'' in a short campaign of Snapple ads from the 90s, where they claimed their ''stated goal'' was to be the ''number three'' soft drink in the country, because it's an easier title to keep. (It didn't go over well.)
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