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25th Feb '16 6:00:36 PM TARINunit9
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* ''Film/IronMan'': In the movie, Tony Stark seemed to be more of a Rich Idiot ''with'' a day job, where he only had to pay attention as long as he didn't get bored. Naturally enough, ''that'' was almost his downfall. However, in the first movie at least, he is perhaps the world's most brilliant engineer, but only barely competent as a business manager. He mostly delegates that part of his job to his [[HypercompetentSidekick hypercompetent secretary]], Pepper Potts, and his [[TreacherousAdvisor trusted lifelong friend]], Obadiah Stane. At the end, [[spoiler:he goes and renders the whole SecretIdentity trope irrelevant by revealing the truth at a press conference]].

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* ''Film/IronMan'': In the movie, Tony Stark seemed to be more of a Rich Idiot ''with'' a day job, where he only had to pay attention as long as he didn't get bored. Naturally enough, ''that'' was almost his downfall. However, in the first movie at least, he is perhaps the world's most brilliant engineer, but only barely competent as a business manager. He mostly delegates that part of his job to his [[TreacherousAdvisor trusted lifelong friend]] Obadiah Stane, and later his [[HypercompetentSidekick hypercompetent secretary]], secretary]] Pepper Potts, and his [[TreacherousAdvisor trusted lifelong friend]], Obadiah Stane. Potts. At the end, [[spoiler:he end of the first film, he goes and renders the whole SecretIdentity trope irrelevant by revealing the truth at a press conference]].conference. By the time ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' rolls around, being a superhero ''is'' his day job.
7th Dec '15 9:27:46 PM sgamer82
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--> ''He may secretly be the World's Greatest Detective, but I think that the average person in the DC Universe thinks of Bruce Wayne as the World's Worst Skier.'' - [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9700946&postcount=27 Tirian]]

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--> ---> ''He may secretly be the World's Greatest Detective, but I think that the average person in the DC Universe thinks of Bruce Wayne as the World's Worst Skier.'' - [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9700946&postcount=27 Tirian]]
7th Dec '15 9:25:46 PM sgamer82
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* Lelouch Lamperouge from ''CodeGeass'' mostly fits this trope, except that rather than pretending to be stupid, he pretends to be too BrilliantButLazy. It's not a difficult pretense, because that was precisely the case until he JumpedAtTheCall in the first episode.

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* Lelouch ''Anime/CodeGeass:''
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Lamperouge from ''CodeGeass'' mostly fits this trope, except that rather than pretending to be stupid, he pretends to be too BrilliantButLazy. It's not a difficult pretense, because that was precisely the case until he JumpedAtTheCall in the first episode.



* Another case of this being a cover for ObfuscatingStupidity: Prince Dryden, Millerna's fiancé from ''VisionOfEscaflowne''. He poses as a rich, indifferent and lazy merchant, but he's got [[DeadpanSnarker a dry wit]] and [[GuileHero a talent]] for manipulation that saves the skins of Van and his fgroup more than once.
* Jiraiya from ''{{Naruto}}'' qualifies. Ostensibly a wandering (and lecherous!) carefree hermit, he is actually quite wealthy...and in fact one of the Legendary Sannin.

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* Another case of this being a cover for ObfuscatingStupidity: Prince Dryden, Millerna's fiancé from ''VisionOfEscaflowne''.''Anime/VisionOfEscaflowne''. He poses as a rich, indifferent and lazy merchant, but he's got [[DeadpanSnarker a dry wit]] and [[GuileHero a talent]] for manipulation that saves the skins of Van and his fgroup more than once.
* Jiraiya from ''{{Naruto}}'' ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' qualifies. Ostensibly a wandering (and lecherous!) carefree hermit, he is actually quite wealthy...and in fact one of the Legendary Sannin.



* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': Bruce Wayne. He used to use this all the time, but after a while, realised that it hurts his endeavours as Bruce Wayne, such as his attempts to fix Gotham, and has pretty much done away with it altogether. He now acts as a level-headed CEO and philanthropist who is just very secretive. What probably helps is that, he "reveals" to the media that [[MetaphoricallyTrue he's been "working with Batman"]], so that's what people assume he spends his time on.

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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
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Bruce Wayne. He used to use this all the time, but after a while, realised that it hurts his endeavours as Bruce Wayne, such as his attempts to fix Gotham, and has pretty much done away with it altogether. He now acts as a level-headed CEO and philanthropist who is just very secretive. What probably helps is that, he "reveals" to the media that [[MetaphoricallyTrue he's been "working with Batman"]], so that's what people assume he spends his time on.



* Averted with ''ComicBook/IronMan''. Anthony "Tony" Stark is well-known as a workaholic engineer and business owner/government minister who definitely earns his money.
** In the comics, he also plays as hard as he works, but it tends to be between projects and/or a backdrop to high-level negotiations.
* Creator/AlanMoore gave Dan Dreiberg, aka Nite Owl, this background, and the [[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys expensive toys]] that go with it, in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' -- although in contrast to the more usual ObfuscatingStupidity, his cover is that he's a harmless ''intellectual''. Played with in that, as a crimefighter, Nite Owl is decisive and confident, while Dan Dreiberg is nervous and impotent. (contrast with Rorschach, who is ''poor'' and a ''lunatic'', with no day job).
** ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' originally was going to feature the CharltonComics lineup, which includes ComicBook/BlueBeetle (the second -- Ted Kord), who also fits this trope (though, like many of these examples, Blue Beetle is supposed to be a genius inventor within his setting, rather than a true "rich idiot").

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* Averted with ''ComicBook/IronMan''. Anthony "Tony" Stark is well-known as a workaholic engineer and business owner/government minister who definitely earns his money.
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money. On the comics, other hand, he also plays as hard as he works, but it tends to be between projects and/or a backdrop to high-level negotiations.
* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}:''
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Creator/AlanMoore gave Dan Dreiberg, aka Nite Owl, this background, and the [[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys expensive toys]] that go with it, in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' -- although it. Although in contrast to the more usual ObfuscatingStupidity, his cover is that he's a harmless ''intellectual''. Played with in that, as a crimefighter, Nite Owl is decisive and confident, while Dan Dreiberg is nervous and impotent. (contrast with Rorschach, who is ''poor'' and a ''lunatic'', with no day job).
** ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' ''Watchmen'' originally was going to feature the CharltonComics Creator/CharltonComics lineup, which includes the second ComicBook/BlueBeetle (the second -- Ted (Ted Kord), who also fits this trope (though, trope. Though like many of these examples, Blue Beetle is supposed to be a genius inventor within his setting, rather than a true "rich idiot").idiot."



* DC's recent reinvention of the old ''ArchieComics'' character The Web is one of these. The twist is that he's actually an inversion- whereas Batman is a grim vigilante who fakes being a feckless playboy, The Web is a feckless playboy who took up vigilanteism as a hobby. [[DeathByOriginStory Then criminals killed his brother.]] In contrast, the original 1940s version was a college professor/criminologist who moonlighted as a vigilante, and the 60s version was a HenpeckedHusband who had to sneak around his wife to fight crime. So more of a "comfortably well off intellectual with a job that leaves him plenty of free time" than this trope.

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* DC's recent reinvention of the old ''ArchieComics'' ''Franchise/ArchieComics'' character The Web is one of these. The twist is that he's actually an inversion- whereas Batman is a grim vigilante who fakes being a feckless playboy, The Web is a feckless playboy who took up vigilanteism as a hobby. [[DeathByOriginStory Then criminals killed his brother.]] In contrast, the original 1940s version was a college professor/criminologist who moonlighted as a vigilante, and the 60s version was a HenpeckedHusband who had to sneak around his wife to fight crime. So more of a "comfortably well off intellectual with a job that leaves him plenty of free time" than this trope.



* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', Bruce acts as a well-meaning, but seemingly ditzy philanthropist, but keeps that hidden from the public by using Lucius Fox both as a decoy and an actual trusted advisor -- probably to keep suspicions down.

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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga:''
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Bruce acts as a well-meaning, but seemingly ditzy philanthropist, but philanthropist. He keeps that hidden from the public by using Lucius Fox both as a decoy and an actual trusted advisor -- probably to keep suspicions down.



* ''Film/IronMan'': In the movie, Tony Stark seemed to be more of a Rich Idiot ''with'' a day job, where he only had to pay attention as long as he didn't get bored. [[spoiler: Naturally enough, ''that'' was almost his downfall.]] However, it should be noted that, in the first movie at least, he is perhaps the world's most brilliant engineer, but only barely competent as a business manager, mostly delegating that part of his job to his [[HypercompetentSidekick hypercompetent secretary]], Pepper Potts, and his [[TreacherousAdvisor trusted lifelong friend]], Obadiah Stane.
** And at the end, [[spoiler:he goes and renders the whole SecretIdentity trope irrelevant by revealing the truth at a press conference.]]

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* ''Film/IronMan'': In the movie, Tony Stark seemed to be more of a Rich Idiot ''with'' a day job, where he only had to pay attention as long as he didn't get bored. [[spoiler: Naturally enough, ''that'' was almost his downfall.]] downfall. However, it should be noted that, in the first movie at least, he is perhaps the world's most brilliant engineer, but only barely competent as a business manager, manager. He mostly delegating delegates that part of his job to his [[HypercompetentSidekick hypercompetent secretary]], Pepper Potts, and his [[TreacherousAdvisor trusted lifelong friend]], Obadiah Stane.
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Stane. At the end, [[spoiler:he goes and renders the whole SecretIdentity trope irrelevant by revealing the truth at a press conference.]]conference]].



* Alec Checkerfield from ''TheCompanyNovels'' is an earl who plays at being an idiot, and on his own time funds various charities and countries while making money via being a pirate. Oh yeah, and he's a computer genius/cyborg who later decides to fight evil. At one point he gets compared to Literature/TheScarletPimpernel, but since it's the 24th century, he has no idea what that means.

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* Alec Checkerfield from ''TheCompanyNovels'' ''Literature/TheCompanyNovels'' is an earl who plays at being an idiot, and on his own time funds various charities and countries while making money via being a pirate. Oh yeah, and he's a computer genius/cyborg who later decides to fight evil. At one point he gets compared to Literature/TheScarletPimpernel, but since it's the 24th century, he has no idea what that means.



* Several ''ForgottenRealms'' novels by Elaine Cunningham feature Danilo Thann, a young nobleman from Waterdeep, [[http://dndvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Columns.Detail&category_select_id=15&id=166 inspired by]] ''Literature/TheScarletPimpernel''. In ''Elfshadow'' he initially appears as a none-too-bright dandy who dabbles in (frequently miscast) magic and (bad) music; Arilyn Moonblade briefly takes him hostage and ends up stuck with him, to her great dismay. It's eventually revealed, however, that Danilo is actually [[spoiler:a member of the secret society of heroes known as the Harpers, generally very savvy, and was actually assigned to observe Arilyn all along]]. Another character who knows Danilo's true status [[{{lampshaded}} observed]] that nobody would ever believe that he of all people is [[spoiler:a Harper]].
** More than once Danilo is shown getting heartily sick of [[ObfuscatingStupidity playing the idiot]], but he reluctantly continues because he can't deny how useful a cover it is.

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* Several ''ForgottenRealms'' ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' novels by Elaine Cunningham feature Danilo Thann, a young nobleman from Waterdeep, [[http://dndvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Columns.Detail&category_select_id=15&id=166 inspired by]] ''Literature/TheScarletPimpernel''. In ''Elfshadow'' he initially appears as a none-too-bright dandy who dabbles in (frequently miscast) magic and (bad) music; Arilyn Moonblade briefly takes him hostage and ends up stuck with him, to her great dismay. It's eventually revealed, however, that Danilo is actually [[spoiler:a member of the secret society of heroes known as the Harpers, generally very savvy, and was actually assigned to observe Arilyn all along]]. Another character who knows Danilo's true status [[{{lampshaded}} observed]] that nobody would ever believe that he of all people is [[spoiler:a Harper]].
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Harper]]. More than once Danilo is shown getting heartily sick of [[ObfuscatingStupidity playing the idiot]], but he reluctantly continues because he can't deny how useful a cover it is.



* Seregil and later Alec play this in the ''{{Nightrunner}}'' series. Seregil is seen as an exile, a failure at the court, a party boy, a great listener with no strong opinions, and decadent rich idiot. In truth he is a master swordsman, famous cat burglar for the Nobles, and probably the greatest spy the kingdom has Alec is groomed as this as well though most dismiss him as Seregil's boytoy. They both find the act a burden and are eager to escape it.
* Thomas [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this in book 5 of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.

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* Seregil and later Alec play this in the ''{{Nightrunner}}'' ''Literature/{{Nightrunner}}'' series. Seregil is seen as an exile, a failure at the court, a party boy, a great listener with no strong opinions, and decadent rich idiot. In truth he is a master swordsman, famous cat burglar for the Nobles, and probably the greatest spy the kingdom has Alec is groomed as this as well though most dismiss him as Seregil's boytoy. They both find the act a burden and are eager to escape it.
* Thomas [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] his own portrayal of this in ''Literature/DeathMasks'', book 5 of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.



* While he's not a ''classic'' example, it's been impossible to tell how Peter Petrelli of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' pays for his groceries since he resigned from his nursing job halfway through season 1. The Petrellis are rich, but given that he's stated several times that he didn't want to live off his father's money, it's all a bit of a mystery. Hiro Nakamura is a straighter example of the trope, since he has apparently inherited money from his father.

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While he's not a ''classic'' example, it's been impossible to tell how Peter Petrelli of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' pays for his groceries since he resigned from his nursing job halfway through season 1. The Petrellis are rich, but given that he's stated several times that he didn't want to live off his father's money, it's all a bit of a mystery. Hiro Nakamura is a straighter example of the trope, since he has apparently inherited money from his father.



* Averted in the 1960s series ''Franchise/TheGreenHornet'' (and the original radio series), in that Britt Reid's day job is publishing ''The Daily Sentinel'', a newspaper that's been owned by his family for years.\\
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However, in the original radio series and in two film serials based on it, this trope gets some lip service: while Reid has a day job, he often ignores it much more than his family likes.

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* Averted in the 1960s series ''Franchise/TheGreenHornet'' (and the original radio series), in that Britt Reid's day job is publishing ''The Daily Sentinel'', a newspaper that's been owned by his family for years.\\
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However, in the original radio series and in two film serials based on it, this trope gets some lip service: while Reid has a day job, he often ignores it much more than his family likes.



* Sort of in ''HaveGunWillTravel''. Paladin plays the role of city dandy in San Francisco, and generally wears light colored clothing there, but when hired for a job, puts on an all-black ensemble. However, he calls himself Paladin in whatever location he's in, so there isn't a pure SecretIdentity here.

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* Sort of in ''HaveGunWillTravel''.''Series/HaveGunWillTravel''. Paladin plays the role of city dandy in San Francisco, and generally wears light colored clothing there, but when hired for a job, puts on an all-black ensemble. However, he calls himself Paladin in whatever location he's in, so there isn't a pure SecretIdentity here.



* Averted in the live-action series version of Series/{{Batman}}, where Bruce poses as a somewhat airheaded but much loved philanthropist.

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* Averted in the live-action series version of Series/{{Batman}}, ''Series/{{Batman}}'', where Bruce poses as a somewhat airheaded but much loved philanthropist.



* In ''{{Champions}}'', [[PointBuy 15 points]] buys you the "Filthy Rich" Perquisite, which turns your character into this.
* In ''{{GURPS}}'' there is a handwave/justification available for this in the form of the Advantage "Independent Income" that represents having "people" who will do some of your work for you (actually taking time out of your day to work is still required if you want your full income, though).

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* In ''{{Champions}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'', [[PointBuy 15 points]] buys you the "Filthy Rich" Perquisite, which turns your character into this.
* In ''{{GURPS}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' there is a handwave/justification available for this in the form of the Advantage "Independent Income" that represents having "people" who will do some of your work for you (actually taking time out of your day to work is still required if you want your full income, though).



* Donnie Rhodes, TabletopGame/{{Scion}} of Aphrodite, is a darker version of this -- his father opted to give him as little attention as legally necessary (the elder Rhodes didn't take the whole "a goddess dumped their kid on his doorstep" thing well), so he threw himself into this lifestyle. His mother saved him from getting shot in a nightclub one night, and he grew out of it once he met his Band. ''Losing'' his Band in ''Scion: God'' caused him to revert a little.

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* Donnie Rhodes, TabletopGame/{{Scion}} Rhodes of ''TabletopGame/{{Scion}}'', specifically the Scion of Aphrodite, is a darker version of this -- his father opted to give him as little attention as legally necessary (the elder Rhodes didn't take the whole "a goddess dumped their kid on his doorstep" thing well), so he threw himself into this lifestyle. His mother saved him from getting shot in a nightclub one night, and he grew out of it once he met his Band. ''Losing'' his Band in ''Scion: God'' caused him to revert a little.






26th Nov '15 5:52:08 PM nombretomado
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* ''SandmanMysteryTheatre'': Wesley Dodds was a mild form of this. He was very geeky, no one thought he was dumb by any means, and he was shown to be actively involved in business ventures (although usually in the background of the story).

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* ''SandmanMysteryTheatre'': ''ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre'': Wesley Dodds was a mild form of this. He was very geeky, no one thought he was dumb by any means, and he was shown to be actively involved in business ventures (although usually in the background of the story).
31st Oct '15 8:46:49 PM nombretomado
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* In ''QuantumAndWoody'', Woody is technically one of these; after the death of his father, he's inherited a fortune and a sizable stake in the company. However, the trope is subverted because a messy divorce settlement and several inheritor clauses means he has no ''direct'' access to his fortune, but must instead get regular payouts from the estate's executor... which happens to be his [[VitriolicBestBuds Vitriolic Best Bud]] Quantum.

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* In ''QuantumAndWoody'', ''ComicBook/QuantumAndWoody'', Woody is technically one of these; after the death of his father, he's inherited a fortune and a sizable stake in the company. However, the trope is subverted because a messy divorce settlement and several inheritor clauses means he has no ''direct'' access to his fortune, but must instead get regular payouts from the estate's executor... which happens to be his [[VitriolicBestBuds Vitriolic Best Bud]] Quantum.
25th Sep '15 4:18:24 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/{{Smallville}}'': At times, [[GreenArrow Oliver]]. [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Tess]] seems to enjoy encouraging the idea. ("I work; he plays.")

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* ''Series/{{Smallville}}'': At times, [[GreenArrow [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Oliver]]. [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Tess]] seems to enjoy encouraging the idea. ("I work; he plays.")
11th Sep '15 9:57:42 PM nombretomado
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* Averted by Ted Kord[=/=]BlueBeetle II who is very involved with Kord Industries, an R&D firm.

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* Averted by Ted Kord[=/=]BlueBeetle Kord[=/=]ComicBook/BlueBeetle II who is very involved with Kord Industries, an R&D firm.



** ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' originally was going to feature the CharltonComics lineup, which includes BlueBeetle (the second -- Ted Kord), who also fits this trope (though, like many of these examples, Blue Beetle is supposed to be a genius inventor within his setting, rather than a true "rich idiot").

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** ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' originally was going to feature the CharltonComics lineup, which includes BlueBeetle ComicBook/BlueBeetle (the second -- Ted Kord), who also fits this trope (though, like many of these examples, Blue Beetle is supposed to be a genius inventor within his setting, rather than a true "rich idiot").
31st Aug '15 8:47:16 PM PaulA
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* ''Literature/AmericanPsycho'' has a twisted variant: Patrick Bateman comes off to most of his acquaintances as a Rich Idiot With An Unnecessary Day Job (at least one of his girlfriends notes his dad owns the company and he's wealthy enough to not have to bother), but it's all part of a none-too-successful effort to fit in.
* ''Literature/{{Ripliad}}'' is equally twisted: Tom Ripley spends his days lounging around in Mediterranean European countries, occasionally killing someone when he really has to.
30th Aug '15 6:02:21 AM Koveras
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries,'' where he takes a more active role in Wayne Enterprises (though he still puts on a BunnyEarsLawyer mask when in public).
** In "Nothing to Fear", thanks to a snide remark from an old friend of his father, Bruce fears that this is making him a disgrace to the family name.

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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries,'' where he takes a more active role in Wayne Enterprises (though he still puts on a BunnyEarsLawyer mask when in public).
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public). In "Nothing to Fear", thanks to a snide remark from an old friend of his father, Bruce fears that this trope is making him a disgrace to the family name.
29th Aug '15 4:07:50 PM LentilSandEater
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* ''Literature/{{Ripliad}}'' is equally twisted: Tom Ripley spends his days lounging around in Mediterranean European countries, occasionally killing someone when he really has to. Considering the books pretty much codified the VillainProtagonist trope, it counts as a subversion.

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* ''Literature/{{Ripliad}}'' is equally twisted: Tom Ripley spends his days lounging around in Mediterranean European countries, occasionally killing someone when he really has to. Considering the books pretty much codified the VillainProtagonist trope, it counts as a subversion.
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