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25th Aug '16 8:12:38 AM LordGro
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* ''Literature/TheSagaOfThePeopleOfVatnsdal'': Ottar of Grimstunga is angered by Ingolf Thorsteinsson carrying on an overly intimate relationship with Ottar's daughter Valgerd. When Ingolf refuses to stop his visits to Valgerd, Ottar twice hires an outlaw to kill Ingolf; when the assassins find Ingolf is too much on his guard, they go for his brother Gudbrand instead. The second time, the plot is successful.
11th Aug '16 9:32:59 PM PaulA
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* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold examples:
** ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Shards Of Honor]]'': Vorrutyer [[ToThePain gloats]] over what he can do to Aral Vorkosigan by torturing Cordelia.
** ''The Warrior's Apprentice'': Count Vorhalas threatens to let Miles swing for treason because Aral did the same thing to Vorhalas's sons. Vorhalas eventually backs down, though, [[MamaBear when threatened with Miles's mother]].\\
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This case is especially interesting as ''Barrayar'' shows that one of Vorhalas's sons was executed because of an accidental example. After Aral let one brother be executed, the other attempted to assassinate Aral in revenge. A pregnant Cordelia was caught in the attack, which led to Miles being born disfigured.
** In the short story, "The Mountains of Mourning", someone tries to slit the throat of Miles' horse, because they couldn't get at him, in what Miles calls an "attempted retroactive infanticide by proxy."

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* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' examples:
** ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Shards Of Honor]]'': ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'': Vorrutyer [[ToThePain gloats]] over what he can do to Aral Vorkosigan (his ex) by torturing Cordelia.
Cordelia (Aral's new love interest).
** ''The Warrior's Apprentice'': ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'': Count Vorhalas threatens to let Miles swing for treason because Aral did the same thing to Vorhalas's sons. Vorhalas eventually backs down, though, [[MamaBear when threatened with Miles's mother]].\\
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This case is especially interesting as ''Barrayar'' ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'' shows that one of Vorhalas's sons was executed because of an accidental example. After Aral let one brother be executed, the other attempted to assassinate Aral in revenge. A pregnant Cordelia was caught in the attack, which led to Miles being born disfigured.
** In the short story, "The Mountains of Mourning", "Literature/TheMountainsOfMourning", someone tries to slit the throat of Miles' horse, because they couldn't get at him, in what Miles calls an "attempted retroactive infanticide by proxy."
9th Aug '16 4:38:39 AM isoycrazy
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** ''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Grave Peril]]'': the BigBad goes after Charity, Michael's wife, and their unborn child in revenge. This allows Michael and Harry to make some deductions about who it is. Mostly because the apparent villain is too dumb to have done that.

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** ''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Grave Peril]]'': the BigBad goes after Charity, Michael's wife, and their unborn child in revenge. This allows Michael and Harry to make some deductions about who it is. Mostly because the apparent villain is, while intelligent, lacks an understanding of humans and how revenge by proxy is too dumb just as harmful to have done that.



** ''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Dead Beat]]'': [[spoiler:Mavra]] threatened Murphy to get Harry to do what she wanted him to. Harry did it, then informed her that if she ever threatened Murphy again, he would, and I quote, "kill you so hard your last ten victims would make miraculous recoveries." We haven't seen [[spoiler:Mavra]] since.

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** ''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Dead Beat]]'': [[spoiler:Mavra]] threatened [[spoiler:Mavra the vampire]] threatens Murphy to get Harry to do what she wanted him to. Harry did does it, then informed informs her that if she ever threatened threatens Murphy or his friends again, he would, and I quote, "kill you so hard your last ten victims would make miraculous recoveries." We haven't seen [[spoiler:Mavra]] The villain hasn't come back since.
8th Aug '16 8:55:40 PM eowynjedi
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* In ''Literature/WolfHall'', Cromwell warns his son Gregory about this trope while he's in the process of putting Anne Boleyn and five rather popular gentlemen through a KangarooCourt that will end in execution--people who know Gregory for Cromwell's son might try to get retribution on his father by attacking him.
4th Aug '16 7:41:25 PM PaulA
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* [[OurDemonsAreDifferent The demon]] in ''[[Literature/TheWordAndTheVoid Running With The Demon]]'' was attracted to a young Evelyn Freemark because of her magic and wild nature. They ran together for a while, but when she discovered his [[BitchInSheepsClothing true]] [[TheSoulless nature]], she rejected him. The demon waited until Evelyn had grown up, married, and had children before putting his plan into motion. Seducing Evelyn's emotionally fragile daughter, Catelyn, he impregnated her, then revealed the truth to her and her mother, [[DrivenToSuicide driving Catelyn to suicide shortly after giving birth]]. Fourteen years later, he came back for the last time, seeking to both collect his daughter, and kill Evelyn in the process. Bastard.

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* [[OurDemonsAreDifferent The demon]] in ''[[Literature/TheWordAndTheVoid Running With The Demon]]'' ''Literature/RunningWithTheDemon'' was attracted to a young Evelyn Freemark because of her magic and wild nature. They ran together for a while, but when she discovered his [[BitchInSheepsClothing true]] [[TheSoulless nature]], she rejected him. The demon waited until Evelyn had grown up, married, and had children before putting his plan into motion. Seducing Evelyn's emotionally fragile daughter, Catelyn, he impregnated her, then revealed the truth to her and her mother, [[DrivenToSuicide driving Catelyn to suicide shortly after giving birth]]. Fourteen years later, he came back for the last time, seeking to both collect his daughter, and kill Evelyn in the process. Bastard.
4th Aug '16 7:55:32 AM ZimFan89
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* In ''FanFic/SaetwosStory'', the entire reason the Fleens are after the Zoombinis is revenge for [[SinsOfOurFathers their parents' generation]] kicking them off of Zoombini Island.
25th Jul '16 11:59:20 AM vtarira
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* This was General Karpov's motivation for Project [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier Winter Soldier]]. His TeethClenchedTeamwork with Captain America during World War II ended with a Russian village burning down and a lifelong grudge against the Americans, so [[spoiler:when his team found Bucky floating seriously injured in the English Channel a few years later, [[ReforgedIntoAMinion well...]]]]
-->'''Karpov:''' ''(to Captain America)'' You do not understand. You cannot... You and the Germans, you have your super-soldiers, your secret weapons. But we Russians, we have nothing but our winter.
20th Jul '16 1:39:46 PM WillKeaton
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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0628.html here]]. Months after the party kills a young evil black dragon, the dragon's mother hunts down and subdues one of the protagonists. [[spoiler:But rather than killing Vaarsuvius, she expresses her intention to take it out on V's children, instead:]]

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0628.html here]]. here.]] Months after the party kills a young evil black dragon, the dragon's mother hunts down and subdues one of the protagonists. [[spoiler:But rather than killing Vaarsuvius, she expresses her intention to take it out on V's children, instead:]]
20th Jul '16 1:37:26 PM WillKeaton
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* A variation occurs "Music/ClockworkQuartet The Watchmaker's Apprentice]]." After being fired by the watchmaker, the [[VillainProtagonist eponymous apprentice]] breaks into his master's shop in the middle of the night; wanting a more satisfying revenge than burglary or vandalism, he spends the entire night constructing a very special pocket watch. A week later, a customer buys the watch - only for it to explode "at six on the dot," killing him instantly. As a result, the watchmaker is arrested for manslaughter, his business is left in ruins and his reputation obliterated. Meanwhile, the apprentice [[KarmaHoudini gleefully slinks off to the seaside]], knowing that [[TheBadGuyWins the whole plan has worked out like clockwork]].

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* A variation occurs "Music/ClockworkQuartet in "[[Music/ClockworkQuartet The Watchmaker's Apprentice]]." After being fired by the watchmaker, the [[VillainProtagonist eponymous apprentice]] breaks into his master's shop in the middle of the night; wanting a more satisfying revenge than burglary or vandalism, he spends the entire night constructing a very special pocket watch. A week later, a customer buys the watch - only for it to explode "at six on the dot," killing him instantly. As a result, the watchmaker is arrested for manslaughter, his business is left in ruins and his reputation obliterated. Meanwhile, the apprentice [[KarmaHoudini gleefully slinks off to the seaside]], knowing that [[TheBadGuyWins the whole plan has worked out like clockwork]].
20th Jul '16 1:36:43 PM WillKeaton
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* Happens now and again in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse. In the HandOfThrawn duology, a corrupted copy of the Caamasi Document surfaces. The document details Palpatine's successful plan to raze the planet of a species of {{Actual Pacifist}}s who were almost universally opposed to him, and as it turns out, he used Bothan agents to lower the planet's shields. The document doesn't actually say specifically who these Bothans were, Bothan authorities deny any knowledge, and the issue acts as a ConflictBall between peoples who want the names coughed up or, failing that, want revenge on the Bothan people, and peoples who think that revenge on the Bothan people is a terrible idea. In many cases, the Bothan issue is no more than an excuse for rivals to war over.

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* Happens now and again in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse.''StarWars'' [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]]. In the HandOfThrawn duology, a corrupted copy of the Caamasi Document surfaces. The document details Palpatine's successful plan to raze the planet of a species of {{Actual Pacifist}}s who were almost universally opposed to him, and as it turns out, he used Bothan agents to lower the planet's shields. The document doesn't actually say specifically who these Bothans were, Bothan authorities deny any knowledge, and the issue acts as a ConflictBall between peoples who want the names coughed up or, failing that, want revenge on the Bothan people, and peoples who think that revenge on the Bothan people is a terrible idea. In many cases, the Bothan issue is no more than an excuse for rivals to war over.
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