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21st Aug '17 11:22:27 AM SeptimusHeap
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** In the HandOfThrawn duology, a corrupted copy of the Caamasi Document surfaces. The document details Palpatine's successful plan to raze the planet of a species of {{Actual Pacifist}}s who were almost universally opposed to him, and as it turns out, he used Bothan agents to lower the planet's shields. The document doesn't actually say specifically who these Bothans were, Bothan authorities deny any knowledge, and the issue acts as a ConflictBall between peoples who want the names coughed up or, failing that, want revenge on the Bothan people, and peoples who think that revenge on the Bothan people is a terrible idea. In many cases, the Bothan issue is no more than an excuse for rivals to war over.

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** In the HandOfThrawn Literature/HandOfThrawn duology, a corrupted copy of the Caamasi Document surfaces. The document details Palpatine's successful plan to raze the planet of a species of {{Actual Pacifist}}s who were almost universally opposed to him, and as it turns out, he used Bothan agents to lower the planet's shields. The document doesn't actually say specifically who these Bothans were, Bothan authorities deny any knowledge, and the issue acts as a ConflictBall between peoples who want the names coughed up or, failing that, want revenge on the Bothan people, and peoples who think that revenge on the Bothan people is a terrible idea. In many cases, the Bothan issue is no more than an excuse for rivals to war over.
19th Aug '17 5:09:21 AM Gaby007
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* Defied by Prince Oberyn Martell in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11910526/3/Death-has-no-Master-but-Life-has-Servants Death has no Master but Life has Servants]]'', who's ''irate'' when three guards try to beat a young Harry Baratheon, assuming the Prince would want some kind of payback for his sister Elia's gruesome demise to the Baratheon rule. Oberyn ''does'' seek revenge, but he's no Lannister: he refuses to blame a child for his brother's sin, and he certainly won't raise a hand against him.
29th Jul '17 3:24:18 AM williamwp1337
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* In ancient China, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations Nine Exterminations]] provided for the execution of the criminal, and his entire family within two generations (very briefly: anyone who shares the same grandparent, plus their spouses, plus the families of their spouses).

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* In ancient China, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations Nine Exterminations]] provided for the execution of the criminal, and his entire family within two generations (very briefly: anyone who shares eight generations, from second-great-grandfather (father side) to second-great-grandson, including the same grandparent, plus their spouses, plus siblings, cousins and offsprings of each generation.
** Averted with women as well as young children below sixteen. Women (usually) will not be executed unless they are
the families criminals themselves. The wives, unwed daughters and young children of executed criminals are usually only demoted to servents, while married women are considered part of their spouses).husbands' families, thus will not be punished for the crime of their own family.
21st Jul '17 10:38:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the thriller ''Malevolent'', the AxCrazy bad guy has a grudge against a psychiatrist who tried to put him away. He takes revenge by murdering the man's wife and stalking his grown-up son, an L.A.P.D. cop (Lou Diamond Philips) who initially has no idea who this guy attempting to ruin his life even is.

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* In the thriller ''Malevolent'', ''Film/{{Malevolent}}'', the AxCrazy bad guy has a grudge against a psychiatrist who tried to put him away. He takes revenge by murdering the man's wife and stalking his grown-up son, an L.A.P.D. cop (Lou Diamond Philips) who initially has no idea who this guy attempting to ruin his life even is.
17th Jul '17 10:26:16 PM merotoker
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* In ''Manga/ElfenLied'', Lucy does this to Kurama... repeatedly. Turns out [[spoiler:he was responsible for a bullet (intended for Lucy) hitting Aiko, her OnlyFriend at that time[[note]]Kohta probably doesn't count at this point since he just watched ''her'' rip his sister in half and kill his father[[/note]] and then told her he could save Aiko if Lucy gave herself up... which leads to Lucy spending the rest of her childhood and her teenage years being a guinea pig while Aiko dies anyway.]] By the end of the manga, Kurama has watched just about everyone he ever cared about die, appear to die, or be terribly maimed. [[spoiler:And it's strongly implied that Aiko might ''not'' have actually died.]]

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* In ''Manga/ElfenLied'', Lucy does this to Kurama... repeatedly. Turns out [[spoiler:he was responsible for a bullet (intended for Lucy) hitting Aiko, her OnlyFriend at that time[[note]]Kohta probably doesn't count at this point since he just watched ''her'' rip his sister in half and kill his father[[/note]] and then told her he could save Aiko if Lucy gave herself up... which leads to Lucy spending the rest of her childhood and her teenage years being a guinea pig while Aiko dies anyway.]] anyway]]. By the end of the manga, Kurama has watched just about everyone he ever cared about die, appear to die, or be terribly maimed. [[spoiler:And it's strongly implied that Aiko might ''not'' have actually died.]]



* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', [[spoiler:Don Chinjao decides to get revenge on Monkey D. Garp by killing Luffy, his grandson, as he thinks killing Garp wouldn't be enough punishment for what Garp did to him, and wants him to suffer. He also comments to Luffy that, had he known Dragon was Garp's son, Luffy wouldn't have even been born.]]
* In ''Anime/MaiHime'', Takumi is a target of this from two separate people. Nao enters his hospital room with the intention of harming him because she hates Mai for being well-liked for her persistence despite the loss of her parents. Akira rescues Takumi and escapes, but then [[spoiler:gets attacked in the Forest and her Child is destroyed, killing Takumi. The perpetrator later turns out to be [[ClingyJealousGirl Shiho]], who did it both out of jealousy of Mai's closeness with Yuuichi ''and'' under the influence of [[SmugSnake Nagi]].]]

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', [[spoiler:Don Chinjao decides to get revenge on Monkey D. Garp by killing Luffy, his grandson, as he thinks killing Garp wouldn't be enough punishment for what Garp did to him, and wants him to suffer. He also comments to Luffy that, had he known Dragon was Garp's son, Luffy wouldn't have even been born.]]
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* In ''Anime/MaiHime'', Takumi is a target of this from two separate people. Nao enters his hospital room with the intention of harming him because she hates Mai for being well-liked for her persistence despite the loss of her parents. Akira rescues Takumi and escapes, but then [[spoiler:gets attacked in the Forest and her Child is destroyed, killing Takumi. The perpetrator later turns out to be [[ClingyJealousGirl Shiho]], who did it both out of jealousy of Mai's closeness with Yuuichi ''and'' under the influence of [[SmugSnake Nagi]].]]Nagi]]]].



* Doctor Doom's entire supervillain career (and all the death and suffering it causes) is one giant overblown attempt to make Reed Richards' life as hellish as possible in revenge for daring to be smarter than Doom. He's [[MotiveDecay developed a lot of other, smaller motivations partly due to his being a villain]], but even all of those can be eventually tied back to his grudge against Reed.

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* Doctor Doom's ComicBook/DoctorDoom's entire supervillain career (and all the death and suffering it causes) is one giant overblown attempt to make Reed Richards' life as hellish as possible in revenge for daring to be smarter than Doom. He's [[MotiveDecay developed a lot of other, smaller motivations partly due to his being a villain]], but even all of those can be eventually tied back to his grudge against Reed.



* Zander Rice forcibly activates ComicBook/{{X 23}}'s HealingFactor at ''age seven'' with lethal doses of radiation, extracts her claws one by one for coating with adamantium at the same age ''without anesthesia'', deliberately leaves her behind to be killed on a mission, and subjects her to 13 years of physical and emotional abuse. Why? Because {{Wolverine}} killed his father during his escape from the Weapon X program. He's doing all of this ''to a child'', whose only involvement was being created ''by Rice's team'' with Logan as her genetic parent. Rice even takes the time to ''[[AndThisIsFor tell her]]'' why he's doing these things to her.

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* Zander Rice forcibly activates ComicBook/{{X 23}}'s HealingFactor at ''age seven'' with lethal doses of radiation, extracts her claws one by one for coating with adamantium at the same age ''without anesthesia'', deliberately leaves her behind to be killed on a mission, and subjects her to 13 years of physical and emotional abuse. Why? Because {{Wolverine}} Franchise/{{Wolverine}} killed his father during his escape from the Weapon X program. He's doing all of this ''to a child'', whose only involvement was being created ''by Rice's team'' with Logan as her genetic parent. Rice even takes the time to ''[[AndThisIsFor tell her]]'' why he's doing these things to her.



* This was General Karpov's motivation for Project [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier Winter Soldier]]. His TeethClenchedTeamwork with Captain America during World War II ended with a Russian village burning down and a lifelong grudge against the Americans, so [[spoiler:when his team found Bucky floating seriously injured in the English Channel a few years later, [[ReforgedIntoAMinion well...]]]]

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* This was General Karpov's motivation for Project [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier Winter Soldier]]. His TeethClenchedTeamwork with Captain America during World War II ended with a Russian village burning down and a lifelong grudge against the Americans, so [[spoiler:when his team found Bucky floating seriously injured in the English Channel a few years later, [[ReforgedIntoAMinion well...]]]]well..]]]].



* In ''Fanfic/BlackSky''s spin-off, ''Parenting is not a Varia Quality'', Pyr is furious to learn his partner Mainomai's entire bloodline was cursed to Tragedy by Hephaestus because their ancestress was the god's wife's alduterous offspring. Fortunately, he manages to dispel the Curse by claiming his partner and the partner's unborn child as his family, erasing their link to the adulteress via adoption.
* In ''Fanfic/MyLoveHasTwoLives'', [[Film/StarTrek Nero]] blames Spock for the death of his wife, so he very deliberately inflicts as much pain on Jim as he can, ensuring that each time, Spock is ForcedToWatch and unable to do anything about it. He goes so far as to [[spoiler:separate them in what might be the most sadistic way possible - Spock is deposited on Delta Vega to watch his homeworld implode whilst Nero intends to keep Jim as a prisoner until they reach Earth, at which point he will be killed along with everybody else on the planet, thus forcing Spock to feel the crippling pain of a broken bond whilst not even being able to be present for his husband's final moments.]] He ''claims'' heís doing all this so Spock will feel what he felt when his wife died, but, as Jim notes, their situations arenít all that similar.

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* In ''Fanfic/BlackSky''s spin-off, ''Parenting is not a Varia Quality'', Pyr is furious to learn his partner Mainomai's entire bloodline was cursed to Tragedy by Hephaestus because their ancestress was the god's wife's alduterous adulterous offspring. Fortunately, he manages to dispel the Curse by claiming his partner and the partner's unborn child as his family, erasing their link to the adulteress via adoption.
* In ''Fanfic/MyLoveHasTwoLives'', [[Film/StarTrek Nero]] blames Spock for the death of his wife, so he very deliberately inflicts as much pain on Jim as he can, ensuring that each time, Spock is ForcedToWatch and unable to do anything about it. He goes so far as to [[spoiler:separate them in what might be the most sadistic way possible - Spock is deposited on Delta Vega to watch his homeworld implode whilst Nero intends to keep Jim as a prisoner until they reach Earth, at which point he will be killed along with everybody else on the planet, thus forcing Spock to feel the crippling pain of a broken bond whilst not even being able to be present for his husband's final moments.]] moments]]. He ''claims'' heís doing all this so Spock will feel what he felt when his wife died, but, as Jim notes, their situations arenít all that similar.



* In Creator/LloydAlexander's ''[[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain The High King]]'', when Eilonwy is captured by a bandit and he realizes her connection to Taran, he tells her that he has a grudge with Taran, and he will get his revenge now. [[spoiler:He is interrupted by a wolf]].

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* In Creator/LloydAlexander's ''[[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain The High King]]'', when Eilonwy is captured by a bandit and he realizes her connection to Taran, he tells her that he has a grudge with Taran, and he will get his revenge now. [[spoiler:He is interrupted by a wolf]].wolf.]]



* The first season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' involved the first scenario -- with a daughter too. One was [[HilarityEnsues a guy called Jack]].
** Jack enacts this in the final season when he sets out for revenge against the entire Russian government. At one point, he murders Dana Walsh primarily because she had been working with them, even though she had nothing to do with the crime that set him off.

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* The first season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' involved the first scenario -- with a daughter too. One was [[HilarityEnsues a guy called Jack]].
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Jack]]. Jack enacts this in the final season when he sets out for revenge against the entire Russian government. At one point, he murders Dana Walsh primarily because she had been working with them, even though she had nothing to do with the crime that set him off.



* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. Angelus makes it clear that he intends to [[AndYourLittleDogToo kill everyone Buffy cares about]] to get back at her for making him feel human.

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''.
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Angelus makes it clear that he intends to [[AndYourLittleDogToo kill everyone Buffy cares about]] to get back at her for making him feel human.



** [[spoiler:Petyr Baelish conspires with Olenna Tyrell to poison King Joffrey because of Joffrey's grandfather Tywin Lannister's part in the murder of Petyr's life-long love Catelyn Stark at the Red Wedding]].

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** [[spoiler:Petyr Baelish conspires with Olenna Tyrell to poison King Joffrey because of Joffrey's grandfather Tywin Lannister's part in the murder of Petyr's life-long love Catelyn Stark at the Red Wedding]].Wedding.]]



** The irony is that this is really just the circle of revenge going full circle. [[spoiler:Uther started his crusade against wizardkind after his wife died by a spell that allowed her to be pregnant with Arthur]]. So Uther's crusade falls under this trope, in a bizarre way.

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** The irony is that this is really just the circle of revenge going full circle. [[spoiler:Uther started his crusade against wizardkind after his wife died by a spell that allowed her to be pregnant with Arthur]]. Arthur.]] So Uther's crusade falls under this trope, in a bizarre way.



* In season three of Series/TrueBlood, Eric kills [[spoiler:Talbot]] and is willing to put several others in danger because [[spoiler:Russell was responsible for the death of his family several hundred years ago]].

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* In season three of Series/TrueBlood, ''Series/TrueBlood'', Eric kills [[spoiler:Talbot]] and is willing to put several others in danger because [[spoiler:Russell was responsible for the death of his family several hundred years ago]].



* In the backstory of ''Series/KamenRiderDrive'', [[spoiler:[[EvilutionaryBiologist Prof. Banno]] went to a young businessman to get a research grant, but the businessman turned him down due to the morally questionable nature of the work. Enraged, Banno had one of his [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Roidmudes]] imitate the businessman's appearance and used it for this trope by beating it to a bloody pulp. This kicked off the plot of the series in two ways: Banno's partner Krim Steinbelt found out about this and ended their partnership (which also lead to his creating the Drive System), and the victimized Roidmude [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal turned on Banno]] before plotting to wipe out all humanity.]]

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* In the backstory of ''Series/KamenRiderDrive'', [[spoiler:[[EvilutionaryBiologist Prof. Banno]] went to a young businessman to get a research grant, but the businessman turned him down due to the morally questionable nature of the work. Enraged, Banno had one of his [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Roidmudes]] imitate the businessman's appearance and used it for this trope by beating it to a bloody pulp. This kicked off the plot of the series in two ways: Banno's partner Krim Steinbelt found out about this and ended their partnership (which also lead to his creating the Drive System), and the victimized Roidmude [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal turned on Banno]] before plotting to wipe out all humanity.]]humanity]].






** In Ovid's ''The Metamorphosis'', Athena does this to her former priestess, Medusa, who had been raped by Poseidon in one of Athena's temples. Athena got pissed that people had been doing it in one of her sacred spots, but she couldn't do anything to Poseidon ''and'' was quite the {{Jerk Ass God}}dess herself, so she took out her anger on Medusa instead by turning her into a Gorgon. (In the actual myth, however, Medusa and her sisters ''always'' were sea monsters.)

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** In Ovid's ''The Metamorphosis'', Athena does this to her former priestess, Medusa, who had been raped by Poseidon in one of Athena's temples. Athena got pissed that people had been doing it in one of her sacred spots, but she couldn't do anything to Poseidon ''and'' was quite the {{Jerk Ass God}}dess {{Jerkass God|s}}dess herself, so she took out her anger on Medusa instead by turning her into a Gorgon. (In the actual myth, however, Medusa and her sisters ''always'' were sea monsters.)



* In ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}, the strip "Ulric" shows this against a devil-bear who took a man's wife.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}, ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'', the strip "Ulric" shows this against a devil-bear who took a man's wife.



* After ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' gave Mr. Freeze a redemptive send-off in the movie ''Sub-Zero'', he returned in the revamped series determined to make others suffer as he had by taking away whatever they valued most, since his condition has destroyed his body, leaving him nothing but a head that can connect to his suit. He feels he can't return to his wife looking like this. And figured if he can't be happy with what he valued most, then no one else should.

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* After ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' gave Mr. Freeze a redemptive send-off in the movie ''Sub-Zero'', ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanAndMisterFreezeSubZero Sub-Zero]]'', he returned in the revamped series determined to make others suffer as he had by taking away whatever they valued most, since his condition has destroyed his body, leaving him nothing but a head that can connect to his suit. He feels he can't return to his wife looking like this. And figured if he can't be happy with what he valued most, then no one else should.



** This prohibition stuck very firmly and spread to the later Abrahamic religions (i.e. Christianity and Islam) and entrenched themselves in the cultures they touched. It wasn't perfect -- folks everywhere get into blood feuds and vendettas no matter what religion they are if the laws or the government don't have a strong hold on them -- but the principle was accepted in law. Thus you find a derivative codified in the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem American Constitution]], specifically Article III, Section 3's prohibition on "corruption of blood": that is, no punishment or penalty can be placed on a convicted person's family for the convict's crimes.

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** This prohibition stuck very firmly and spread to the later Abrahamic religions (i.e. Christianity and Islam) and entrenched themselves in the cultures they touched. It wasn't perfect -- folks everywhere get into blood feuds and vendettas no matter what religion they are if the laws or the government don't have a strong hold on them -- but the principle was accepted in law. Thus you find a derivative codified in the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem American Constitution]], specifically Article III, Section 3's prohibition on "corruption of blood": that is, no punishment or penalty can be placed on a convicted person's family for the convict's crimes.
15th Jul '17 10:11:11 AM nombretomado
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* Polish author and artist Bruno Schultz, who was forced to live in the ghetto at Drohobycz during WorldWarII, was under the protection of German Gestapo officer Felix Landau, who admired his work, and was shot and killed by another officer in revenge for Landau killing the officer's "personal Jew."

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* Polish author and artist Bruno Schultz, who was forced to live in the ghetto at Drohobycz during WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, was under the protection of German Gestapo officer Felix Landau, who admired his work, and was shot and killed by another officer in revenge for Landau killing the officer's "personal Jew."
8th Jul '17 9:37:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the thriller ''Malevolent'', the AxCrazy bad guy has a grudge against a psychiatrist who tried to put him away. He takes revenge by murdering the man's wife and stalking his grown-up son, an L.A.P.D. cop (Lou Diamond Philips) who initially has no idea who this guy attempting to ruin his life even is.
7th Jul '17 4:38:09 AM Slothgirl
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* In ''Fanfic/MyLoveHasTwoLives'', [[Film/StarTrek Nero]] blames Spock for the death of his wife, so he very deliberately inflicts as much pain on Jim as he can, ensuring that each time, Spock is ForcedToWatch and unable to do anything about it. He goes so far as to [[spoiler:separate them in what might be the most sadistic way possible - Spock is deposited on Delta Vega to watch his homeworld implode whilst Nero intends to keep Jim as a prisoner until they reach Earth, at which point he will be killed along with everybody else on the planet, thus forcing Spock to feel the crippling pain of a broken bond whilst not even being able to be present for his husband's final moments.]] He ''claims'' heís doing all this so Spock will feel what he felt when his wife died, but, as Jim notes, their situations arenít all that similar.
29th Jun '17 2:06:22 AM gravious
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* In Film/FullMetalJacket, [[DrillSergeantNasty Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]] eventually resorts to punishing Private Pyle's fellow recruits as a means of disciplining him after a long series of screw-ups. [[spoiler: The even more brutal treatment Pyle receives as a result ensures [[SanitySlippage this does not go well]] for either [[TheDogBitesBack Hartman]] or [[AteHisGun himself.]] ]]

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* In Film/FullMetalJacket, ''Film/FullMetalJacket'', [[DrillSergeantNasty Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]] eventually resorts to punishing Private Pyle's fellow recruits as a means of disciplining him after a long series of screw-ups. [[spoiler: The even more brutal treatment Pyle receives as a result ensures [[SanitySlippage this does not go well]] for either [[TheDogBitesBack Hartman]] or [[AteHisGun himself.]] ]]
23rd Jun '17 11:27:16 AM GardenGoblin
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* In ''Literature/AWorldLessVisible'', to get back at Adam, Sima manipulates Wren into forcing Adam to kill his best friend.



* In ''Literature/AWorldLessVisible'', to get back at Adam, Sima manipulates Wren into forcing Adam to kill his best friend.
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